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    maybe this all comes down to bringing the country back together after the deepest division since the civil war...

    in a few weeks, suddenly painting the one half the country loves as the villain, it would in a moment break down the walls to bring us back together, was this all just an experiment on manipulation of the public to prepare for the next round that might work?
    Rocky, Could you elaborate a bit more on this theme? I am interested in the whole notion of bringing the country together, because it has been used as a meme to allow major compromises in D.C. where reaching across the aisle, generally means any good that is/was there acquiesces to self interested corporate orcs.

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    My thoughts of how the 'powers that be' select a puppet leader:
    • Puppet leaders must be totally manipulated. Anything else is too risky.
    • To be totally manipulated, the integrity of puppet leaders must be totally compromised.
    • A puppet world leader must hate the people and values of the country he/she will destroy on command.
    In the U.S., depopulation and martial law are the likely result of food riots started by a reduction of entitlements. The race issue may play a significant role here.



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    Obama may not be anything special. Maybe he was simply available and met the job qualifications set by the 'powers that be'.
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Why him?

    Not Powel ?

    They groom their drones very specifically for purpose.

    Powel was a military dogsbody with still a good hand of useful cards to play in that extended role yet. Why waste a good and well placed asset where he was/is when they have just the perfect kid coming up with just the right 'Man from Manturia' handles positioned around him.

    Besides, if they really did choose him for it a long time ago, there will have been a certain amount of 'parental pride' in wanting to see him get there and prove they could pull it off.

    More tricky, is wondering if he really is to be the mascot on the front of a sinking ship, or if they have got big problems getting everything lined up right.

    Considering all we've been watching around the world lately, if they do drop America into it's footprint before Obama has completed his term, I'll have to assume that every major power in the world is in on it at the very highest level. There have been so many apparent wild cards played that it would seem impossible for their plan to be still perfectly in tact, unless all of it is some kind of computer generated script with parts printed out for the strings section, the wind section and the brass section, etc.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Here's what I don't understand.

    Why did they pick and groom HIM? Why that individual? Even if they wanted a black President at this time, there must have been many other options. What would have been wrong with Colin Powell?

    The risks seem to have been huge. Forged birth certificate, unsavory stories emerging, murders of gay lovers in Chicago, drug history, sexual history... This guy is NOT a hero. It MUST have been known this would all inevitably leak. Surely someone in the elite President-selection group would have said: "Listen, we need a safer option."

    Another possibility is that this is a carefully planned set-up. Maybe Obama is already installed with a "kill-switch". That could be to
    • keep him totally in line (like someone being blackmailed), or
    • to deliberately discredit him later, at some strategic point not yet reached. Like:
    Problem : Obama is outed nationally and globally as a sociopathic fraud, lacking all personal integrity.
    Reaction : Public outrage... "This must NEVER happen again"
    Solution : Someone is brought in with totally impeccable credentials who seems like a genuine knight in shining armor -- but this time, is the REAL 'Antichrist'.

    I welcome all serious ideas. It IS hard to understand why they took this apparent risk.
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    Quote Posted by billyji (here)
    What is more revealing is why are the controlling puppet masters showing their tactics to the masses.

    It appears the controllers are setting themselves up to be caught out on purpose.

    far to obvious for my own liking.
    To the masses they come up with a lot of support for Obama, claiming that he delivered his birth certificate and has this official history in general. This is what is being played on the masses. When a leak appears it doesn't really change anything for the presstitutes in their daily jobs, which is to stay silent and stick to the script.

    When you dig deeper, as people in the "alternative" media do, you find all this amazing amount of evidence that everything about Obama is a lie and that he is a very shady character to say the least. Now this is creating an interesting dynamic, because it has to be considered that the general public is still ignorant of both—Obama's real history and his real actions.

    I see stories like "just how much bad news is Obama exactly?" or "just how could they take down the twin-towers?" or "will Obama be granted dictatorial powers?" as certainly interesting, but also diverting some attention and creating an atmosphere of over-the-topness for a general public that didn't look at political information in the first place and is now even more overwhelmed with a massive amount of new information.

    I think right now the alternative media and all the people tuning in to it would be well served if they would simply push the message that humanity is being enslaved by a banking cartel which also controls all the major corporations, institutions, and nations. There should be a massive campaign focusing solely on a massive and simple wake-up call; the central common-sense and need-to-know facts must reach the public.

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    However, you can vote for Alex Jones, next time . There will be more mess if that Office .
    I think Alex Jones knows the Constitution and the Bill of Rights better than most congressmen do.

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    Bill Clinton on the other hand - I could listen to him read the phonebook for hours. the guy has charisma coming out of his ears!
    Yeah, what a charisma!

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    Rense has posted these and other Putin vs. Obama pictures in October, have a good laugh, this thread somehow reminded me of them.
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Remembering the interview with Andrew Basiago (Jumproom to Mars) where he said he met the bushes,clinton and obama in New Mexico and they were talking about all of them were going to become POTUS someday... is Andrew next? Do we really have a choice when we go to the polls? Is he as compromised as obama? What happened to America? Or the world!!!

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    Obama trained by an actor - does not seem strange to me.

    Acting lessons or just good PR training?

    Every senior politician with a chance at the top would be given the best PR and Media training available.

    That training comes from unlikely sources. In companies I have worked for our senior leaders have been coached by experienced journalists, barristers, psychologists etc. Its very expensive and takes a long time. I have seen people over the years who were earmarked for the top jobs transformed from little more than street oiks to well groomed slick professionals.

    I don't see it a stretch for actors to be among those who could help train people like that.

    What is the difference with what is being portrayed here?
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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    maybe this all comes down to bringing the country back together after the deepest division since the civil war...

    in a few weeks, suddenly painting the one half the country loves as the villain, it would in a moment break down the walls to bring us back together, was this all just an experiment on manipulation of the public to prepare for the next round that might work?
    Rocky, Could you elaborate a bit more on this theme? I am interested in the whole notion of bringing the country together, because it has been used as a meme to allow major compromises in D.C. where reaching across the aisle, generally means any good that is/was there acquiesces to self interested corporate orcs.
    well, Obama is done with politics, if they can get Democrats to stop fighting so hard for Obama it closes the rift between the bought and paid for party representatives...

    Obama isn't dumb and knew whatever stance he took on Syria and Iran, Republicans would take the opposite stance, even becoming anti war, very un neocon of them...

    the Zionist that want a final war in the middle east, needed America to attack Syria, drawing Iran into the war...

    as soon as he said let's go to war, it was shut down by congress, disappointing Israel, the war machine, oil cartels and bankers...

    in one fell swoop, the future of the world changed, while they were all trying to get the war back in motion, Obama did the unthinkable and offered an olive leaf to Iran, which they gladly accepted

    The Ayatolla hasn't been seen since a test to show Syria capabilities of their new weapons, which somehow exploded setting off an earthquake centered at the launch facility...

    what is amazing is how fast we are moving away from WW III, Putin is flexing his muscles and the Jewish lobby seems to have no power in decisions of congress...

    the tea party confusion thrown into the republican party seems to be a huge part of the plan.

    once WW III is off the table, I can see Obama ready to head to the islands to retire, health care reform has begun, next controlling health care cost will become important...

    it was hard fought, but those angry, I really feel are the evil controlling this world we all want to toss out...

    the attempted assassination of Obama if it would have succeeded, would have reignited the hatred to the point of mass riots...

    once again the shadow government has failed, the renegade puppet is destroying their plans...

    Go Ninja's!!!

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    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    I give this information the benefit of the doubt, but we shouldn't be so prompt to buy into it and start speculating about Obama and who may be behind all of it. This requires more exploration that just the facts presented here.
    Very true.

    Remember Andrew Breitbart? He died within a few days after announcing at CPAC I believe, saying the Tea Party was going to "vet" Obama this time (for his second term), saying. "We have pictures, we have videos".

    Larry Sinclair fortunately wasn't offed liked so many others, but he was demonized after he came forward saying he'd had a sexual relationship with Obama and had done coke with him.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Here's what I don't understand.

    Why did they pick and groom HIM? Why that individual? Even if they wanted a black President at this time, there must have been many other options. What would have been wrong with Colin Powell?

    The risks seem to have been huge. Forged birth certificate, unsavory stories emerging, murders of gay lovers in Chicago, drug history, sexual history... This guy is NOT a hero. It MUST have been known this would all inevitably leak. Surely someone in the elite President-selection group would have said: "Listen, we need a safer option."

    Another possibility is that this is a carefully planned set-up. Maybe Obama is already installed with a "kill-switch". That could be to
    • keep him totally in line (like someone being blackmailed), or
    • to deliberately discredit him later, at some strategic point not yet reached. Like:
    Problem : Obama is outed nationally and globally as a sociopathic fraud, lacking all personal integrity.
    Reaction : Public outrage... "This must NEVER happen again"
    Solution : Someone is brought in with totally impeccable credentials who seems like a genuine knight in shining armor -- but this time, is the REAL 'Antichrist'.

    I welcome all serious ideas. It IS hard to understand why they took this apparent risk.
    My guess, given all the information, is that Barack Obama is a fully-controlled asset, a highly and fully-functioning Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan or David Hinkley type. It appears he may be a CIA asset from birth. Colin Powell or any other more credible prospect--and you are right there are scores of them--would bring far less baggage. But what Barack Obama, the asset, offers, if indeed he was groomed from birth, is a complete tabula rasa. This type of individual would be a dream prospect to an MK-ULTRA black-ops engineer(s), and probably the most successful type of mind-control asset. Even if you were to infiltrate other more prominent individuals with some success, and even at some point early on in their lives, they would be far less malleable, in the psychopathic sense, and in some regards, far more risky. Perhaps what appears on the surface to be more risky by inserting Barack Obama as manchurian is really the lesser of two evils. I would also guess that the little handicap of Barack Obama's dubious past is probably something his handlers, given their ever-increasing hubris, calculated as manageable in the infowar. We have to consider that somehow this quality of individual has managed to win the election of POTUS TWICE without any serious vetting, and despite all this information, which in some circles is commonly known. And of course even if all this information blows up and becomes unmanageable, the architects can capitalize on the crisis in the exact manner as you suggest in your P-R-S dialectic. It may even be the desired plan in the event their asset does not execute their agenda in precisely the intended manner.

    I am speculating, of course, but all the information and data points I've come across--and I've done a fair amount of study and research on this--strongly points to this conclusion.
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    Quote Posted by christian (here)

    When you dig deeper, as people in the "alternative" media do, you find all this amazing amount of evidence that everything about Obama is a lie and that he is a very shady character to say the least. Now this is creating an interesting dynamic, because it has to be considered that the general public is still ignorant of both—Obama's real history and his real actions.


    Isn't it just......... ?

    A bipolar dynamic with a schizophrenic main stream narrative?

    It could get like Victorian Britain ...... "Lock em all up "


    But, you're bang on with the way to go.... Money anger gets all sorts up on their hind legs. Then there has to be an exit plan from that too, because the crafty bastards have spent a hell of a long time setting up the socialist model in folk's minds and they think they can counter the money anger with a slam dunk from quite literally ' Left Field'.
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    I think they plan on keeping Obama in office until the 2 state solution is implemented in Israel...

    they are lowering the bar now, which will make it possible...


    like it or not, Obama will end up going down in history as one of America's greatest presidents...

    and poor Bush pulled the short straw and will end up as one of the worst...
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    I think they plan on keeping Obama in office until the 2 state solution is implemented in Israel...

    they are lowering the bar now, which will make it possible...


    like it or not, Obama will end up going down in history as one of America's greatest presidents...

    and poor Bush pulled the short straw and will end up as one of the worst...

    That's an interesting little tweak pull on my thinking but my belly tells me that Obama's greatness in history is a kind of inverted satirical Overture to something that brings the end of history.
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    as long as this mess ends bankers control on our society, I'm good with that...

    tank the Fed, dump the debt, and start the US back to the way it was meant to be, without a boot on its throat...

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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    as long as this mess ends bankers control on our society, I'm good with that...

    tank the Fed, dump the debt, and start the US back to the way it was meant to be, without a boot on its throat...
    There's always 2 Jackboots.

    The right one, and the left one. I'll perk up a treat when I can't hear them marching any longer.
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    Something comes to mind, that Freeman said, that it is about bringing down the office of the US President. First, Clinton was impeached, then Bush was "elected" twice through fraud, then Obama is elected while not being eligible.

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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Hi Anchor
    I think the difference is this: from what I've seen of Obama he is not Human, deferentially not Humain so it's not like someone being given a good image it's more like a total make over illusion of a being.
    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    Obama trained by an actor - does not seem strange to me.

    Acting lessons or just good PR training?

    Every senior politician with a chance at the top would be given the best PR and Media training available.

    That training comes from unlikely sources. In companies I have worked for our senior leaders have been coached by experienced journalists, barristers, psychologists etc. Its very expensive and takes a long time. I have seen people over the years who were earmarked for the top jobs transformed from little more than street oiks to well groomed slick professionals.

    I don't see it a stretch for actors to be among those who could help train people like that.

    What is the difference with what is being portrayed here?
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    Something comes to mind, that Freeman said, that it is about bringing down the office of the US President. First, Clinton was impeached, then Bush was "elected" twice through fraud, then Obama is elected while not being eligible.
    Yea, I think that's a part of it. It's a bigger program of taking down nationhood, in general. That was kicked off with Wikileaks ( I believe ).

    There a definite military logic they have to stick to though. It's a huge shift from using the US as the strong arm over the whole world ( why they gave it infinite credit - in the first place ) and dropping it like a bag of snuff on the sidewalk.
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    what if he is just a bet between two super power guys, a simple bet so that they can amuse themselves in their rather dull life? A bet with a multi layer game, where the nobody trained from chidhood would go unnoticed, could be made a fall guy, etc. A plain stupid bet.

    What if it is a contrived deal with another power, where he had to be put in place, being sent by the other power, but had to be put in place to keep things calm for example?

    there is thousands of what if potentials.

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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Very good info,
    I am tired of hearing that he is a white hat and secretly will save us all... Sick of it!

    He is a PLANT and an ASSET!!! A Puppet... A Cut Out... Pure and simple (A lot easier to control than Clinton would have been... but they moved their agenda as wanted and she will get her shot I am sure!)..

    The last video and the description of him as a teen age boy is very similar to what has been described to me by some people that spent time with him. They have to rotate his SS Agents to make sure one of them doesn't spend too much time around him and WOULD take one for him... "THEY" shake up that Military and Secret Service tree pretty often up there, I see why there is so much paranoia.

    A LOT can be rolled back that has his signatures on it IF we ever have the peaceful coup that is needed and the "ELITE" Bankster Dark Souls are removed from our "YOKES"...

    TY For the info Bill

    All the above IMHO as always

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