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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    There wasn`t anything really done about Clinton and his escapades, lies, corruption etc as well as stories of the Bushes while in power and then JFK had some sordid backgroud issues as well, not too mention many others not only in the US but all over the world. This has been going for too many years to count, so................

    Why would it not become more in our faces than ever as to date nothing has changed, except the blantancy of how mind controlled the world is!!! The masses still do not want to deal with Reality!! Many know and many I know, do not want the information as it destroys their illusions of their country and or planet or fellow man.

    To stay on topic and share my thoughts on Obama........he is just one more example and a good one that continues to lead the people down the dark path. He was chosen in order to buy even more time to put marshal law into place and he was chosen because he was Black, IMHO. It was another ploy to have the people believe that change was really on the door step with his election and after 4 years of BS they still want to believe and the Global Controllers knew this would happen.

    Maybe this is the plan of a Greater Design too (Peace&Love) as boy it sure is crazy as to what it is taking to get the masses to evolve, wake up and start looking at themselves and to realize that the power not only lies within but cannot be reproduced on a global bases until enough have turned the corner to inform those in control that the game is up!
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    BINGO

    They could have picked controllable individuals that met the outward criteria easily... he was BRED and RAISED... GROOMED to be a candidate or a tool... "Their Dark See'ers" Cast their lots and decided on him for several reasons that the future will most likely bear out... I would say the pathological lying and other moral short falls end up costing him the presidency and the laws he setup will come down, but along with them what else will come down?

    When it all comes out and to a head will WE be playing into the hands of that "DARK SEE'ER"? Will our reactions fulfill their plan or is "BARRY" alone fulfilling their plan under borrowed time? Once you learn how these DARK types think and plan you never look at even the wildest conspiracy the same. There is always ANOTHER REASON, one we missed at the end of the day and a dark figure with too many teeth smiling in a dim lit room planning the next 10 moves ahead of what we think was the end of the game... IMHO/experience...


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    Here's what I don't understand.

    Why did they pick and groom HIM? Why that individual? Even if they wanted a black President at this time, there must have been many other options. What would have been wrong with Colin Powell?

    The risks seem to have been huge. Forged birth certificate, unsavory stories emerging, murders of gay lovers in Chicago, drug history, sexual history... This guy is NOT a hero. It MUST have been known this would all inevitably leak. Surely someone in the elite President-selection group would have said: "Listen, we need a safer option."

    Another possibility is that this is a carefully planned set-up. Maybe Obama is already installed with a "kill-switch". That could be to
    • keep him totally in line (like someone being blackmailed), or
    • to deliberately discredit him later, at some strategic point not yet reached. Like:
    Problem : Obama is outed nationally and globally as a sociopathic fraud, lacking all personal integrity.
    Reaction : Public outrage... "This must NEVER happen again"
    Solution : Someone is brought in with totally impeccable credentials who seems like a genuine knight in shining armor -- but this time, is the REAL 'Antichrist'.

    I welcome all serious ideas. It IS hard to understand why they took this apparent risk.
    My guess, given all the information, is that Barack Obama is a fully-controlled asset, a highly and fully-functioning Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan or David Hinkley type. It appears he may be a CIA asset from birth. Collin Powell or any other more credible prospect--and you are right there are scores of them--would bring far less baggage. But what Barack Obama, the asset, offers, if indeed he was groomed from birth, is a complete tabula rasa. This type of individual would be a dream prospect to an MK-ULTRA black-ops engineer(s), and probably the most successful type of mind-control asset. Even if you were to infiltrate other more prominent individuals with some success, and even at some point early on in their lives, they would be far less malleable, in the psychopathic sense, and in some regards, far more risky. Perhaps what appears on the surface to be more risky by inserting Barack Obama as manchurian is really the lesser of two evils. I would also guess that the little handicap of Barack Obama's dubious past is probably something his handlers, given their ever-increasing hubris, calculated as manageable in the infowar. We have to consider that somehow this quality of individual has managed to win the election of POTUS of the United States TWICE without any serious vetting, and despite all this information, which in some circles is commonly known. And of course even if all this information blows up and becomes unmanageable, the architects can capitalize on the crisis in the exact manner as you suggest in your P-R-S dialectic. It may even be the desired plan in the event their asset does not execute their agenda in precisely the intended manner.

    I am speculating, of course, but all the information and data points I've come across--and I've done a fair amount of study and research on this--strongly points to this conclusion.

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    Catherine Austin Fitts maintains that nobody is able to rise to any kind of significant position of power in D.C. unless they have a convenient file they can pull on them at any time, should they ever step out of line.
    That's a fact...

    in my state, there was a Government move to do something that was really against their party philosophy...one guy stood out majorly, and within days, his attendance at a gay brothel was leaked (he'd been going for decades without scrutiny), he exited, the media were there, and his family and career were destroyed, by the party, and the complicit media.

    Was having a conversation with a guy in politics, and suggested that you don't get a front row job without them having a trigger that they can take you apart at any time to better handle you.

    He told me that I didn't know how right I really was within the party.

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    About one month ago I had a dream in which I met Obama.

    His skin of the face was sort of reddish with visible veins on his neck, almost demonic look but rather tired.
    We were looking at each others and started communicate telepathically.
    In the first moment he put a play, an act about how strong he is and that I should fear him.
    I told him that he is wasting his time with this game. I didn't buy it.

    I asked why he allow others to control him to such an extent and do he really know who he is. He get angry at me but suddenly he got it. His face changed totally.
    It was more like revelation to him, for the first time since very long to be in the knowing but knowing of his own existence. And most of all a discovery of the truth about his masters.
    He very quickly connected the dots from his own memories and experience with them and how he got to the place where he is now.
    He thanked me for this and was very happy about the fact that he will be himself again. Like Gollum from Lord of the Rings when Frodo told him that he was Smeagol once.
    On the end with all his heart and fury he knew that he will do anything he can to stay undercover and play new game.
    The game against his masters even when he will loose it. The most important was to be himself again.
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    Quote Posted by sandy (here)

    ...... until enough.....!.......



    I totally see the numbers game as the one we are up against. They are crunching them several times a day, I'm sure.

    We should be more alarmed by the fact that the internet is still up and running than we seem to be.

    There's a level where it's wonderful that we are all getting connected and we are on the rise... blah blah blah..............

    There's another level where they could pull the plug at any time they want.................... and they haven't..... yet !...?
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    I don't see Obama as bright just grandiose and easily manipulated to be a fall guy when TPTB wants to start a civil war between the races and begin martial law which I see coming soon given all the stuff Homeland Security is buying and hoarding. Just part of their divide and conquer approach to keep us distracted as they continue on with their New World Order plans under the direction of a new "Savior" type POTUS.

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    Quote Posted by christian (here)
    I think right now the alternative media and all the people tuning in to it would be well served if they would simply push the message that humanity is being enslaved by a banking cartel which also controls all the major corporations, institutions, and nations. There should be a massive campaign focusing solely on a massive and simple wake-up call; the central common-sense and need-to-know facts must reach the public.
    This is what I keep trying to stress to people. Even the US President at this point is nothing more than middle management. TPTB likely know decades in advance who is likely to be President down the line, and they make sure to groom these individuals in advance to be their servants.

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    He came on the scene as a presidential candidate when the United States needed a change. He promised change and hope. We never asked him what kind of change. He was blindly followed because he is hypnotizing and most of us really believe in the goodness of humanity. We felt empowered by his undefined and vague promises. We didn't even ask for clarification, we just assumed he was on the same page and wanted to see the possibility of a just world. How naïve I was. I don't know about the rest of you but I feel responsible. I bought into this hook line and sinker and even tried to convince my friends this guy was the one who would change the world for the better. I have since then doubted my ability to think critically regarding politics. It is no more than a game that uses emotions. But Hitler had the same type of charisma, charm and personality. In a way Obama is protected by the same unspoken laws of antisemminisym. If you recognize or point out the atrocities he has unleashed on freedom and the constitution you sre a racist, a terrorist or worse a patriot. Now when did any of us in the United State SEE THAT COMING. There rules have changed. Believing in freedom and wanting the free state to survive can now be misconstrued, convoluted and turned against you. In this police state there is no room to think critically or even demand proof. The chemtrails, beer, drones, fluoride, tv series, and the latest new vehicle model or keep up with the Jones next big thing are designed to keep your brain inactive and uncapable of thinking of all the atrocities and working out a better future for mankind. What is that saying.. Nothing to see here.. Move along.. Move along! I know better now. Which is why I won't rest until this is righted... which is why I FEEL RESPONSIBLE. I am empowered though. I won't let it get me down. I will do everything I can to make it right. YES WE CAN!

    No false saviors from here on out. Fool me once... you are well out of fresh chances!!!!
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    I don't understand how this guy has survived this long in office? Biggest fraud ever!

    I know this is a serious matter but the cartoons in this interview are funny.


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    My understanding is: Obama was "remote viewed" in the very early government remote viewing programs and the elite saw way in advance who would best suit their agenda, and Obama was "groomed" from a very early age as a Manchurian puppet.

    That's why they chose him. He is basically the first true Manchurian from birth.
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    The Next Voice You Hear Will Be Your OWN"
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    Quote Posted by heretogrow (here)
    He came on the scene as a presidential candidate when the United States needed a change. He promised change and hope. We never asked him what kind of change. He was blindly followed because he is hypnotizing !
    That was a real eye-opener for me, listening to his earlier speeches, and being absolutely entranced by them...then in the middle of one of them I woke up and realised that I was being entranced by them, and switched that off...immediately he didn't sound amazing and powerful, he just sounded like another puppet, who was there for someone else' benefit.

    A couple of Australian Psychiatrist types went in the media claiming that NLP and hypnotism techniques were used in the creation of the speeches. They got attention, and laughed at...but they were right.

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    I don't understand how this guy has survived this long in office? Biggest fraud ever!

    I know this is a serious matter but the cartoons in this interview are funny.


    Well I have read the whole thread. I have a hard time listening to the rev because of his tendency to show judgement and be so negative, plus I love all beings gay or straight, reptile or grey, human or venusian, cow or cat...

    Many have touched upon the same thoughts I have had on this subject. I have to address the video in this post though. I did not know there was a Jeff Rense prior to seeing this. I have researched things on the rense site however. The video above, while appearing funny and neat- told me for sure, this is about More Division. As long as those in the habit of exposing the old empire continue to do so with the same thought frames... we are chasing our tails. I could not watch the graphics at all, it makes me sad to think the person that made it didn't realize he is feeding the thing he professes to want gone. When I listened to Mia this time, I believe she has an agenda. there is an undercurrent of disinfo to me. However, I do not doubt barry was a freebasing semen receptacle for the cabal (willingly or brainwashed though?).

    There are a few possible scenarios that many have mentioned.

    1) BS is a regular person, really wants to change the world, for some reason he gets a red carpet in dc which he doesn't understand but moves forward anyway as a (what was he a lawyer, senator) ... the cabal wanted him just because he is black and they have been wanting to do something with black vs white for a long time.... so he gets the job because they let him get it... then he is taken in the little room that completely transforms into the highly technological place that the ets taught them to build... and he is shown graphic videos of how he and his children and wife will be tortured, until he gives in and becomes their puppet. It would explain the complete change after taking office. Maybe then they began the brainwashing techniques... or he refused and is in a torture chamber, or dead... with a clone taking his place....
    or
    he was raised mk ultra (which fits in with the old white male lovers) from birth to be their many personalities machine...

    some say he could be a highly evolved soul that has been living as a mk ultra slave and yet some part of him still remembers who he really is (like jesus while incarnate)(white hat scenario)

    I am already tired of writing the possibles...it is all masturbation to keep strife happening. oh and the old pattern of problem reaction solution certainly seems to be here too.... they are setting up a network of fall guys. Let's keep our focus on the parts we can. There is a thread called the solution...as we implement individually it it gains strength and momentum of its own.

    another thread today is saying the same things... we take our emotions and learn them and how to keep from generating the negative ones... so we can 'starve them out'. The david Icke interview called from the heart that I found again thanks to the solution thread (not a typical DI vid..he is talking about how to end the paradigm). All this stuff that is coming from emotion is part of their game right?

    I am feeling particularly disjointed now for the last hour. I am not going to try to make this make more sense, but post as is. this is the thread about the solution
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-You-On-Board
    I am using the quote from Monty Python "Kill the Messenger" because that is how people react when you tell them the truth, they want the one that told them about it (the messenger) to just go away so they won't have to deal with truths like pedogate

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    Couldn't have said it better, Karika! Thanks.
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    When Obama gave his speech about the need for strikes against Syria, I remember thinking that he was lying and that this was the first time I'd thought of him as an actor vs President, and a bad one at that. (I'm not familiar with Harry Lennix but the similarities are amazing.)

    So why would Lennix come out with all of this now? And Ms. Pope? Oi! And just when I was starting to think that the Obamacare website problems were sabatoge...or are we supposed to believe that??

    If he was groomed for this position, the Constitutional Law specialty is appropriate, considering how he's been dismantling it.

    I recently saw the ease with which Derren Brown was able to hypnotize some people without their being aware of it. The possibilities? ...omg.
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    There was something very strange about the whole deal, out of nowhere, it seemed to me anyway, this slick voiced stranger arose saying all the 'right' things
    to press the necessary socio-economic-political buttons in the correct sequence. It all seemed so staged, I hate to say it: surreal. Whatever shadow group
    that is behind this particular creation, we will probably never be able to isolate or identify-it just seems to fit in with some mosaic pattern that we can't yet discern.
    The Obama era will rank as marking the distinct fall of America as the global empire, perhaps the times call for the nature of the players within it...

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    Okay everyone I slept on it ... a man with a secret gay lifestyle and a street drug habit , can be blackmailed easily and would jump at the chance to be someone important and con the whole world ... as long as he got his drugs and his bed partners , in fact other world leaders may also be into that ... as for being gay and president , what's wrong with loving another human being ??? some people get all upset over one person loving another , I don't get that, would you rather they hate and kill ??? Look at the beauty of the design , I'll fool the world and make them think I'm straight with a wife and kids , when really I'm not , and appear to be a for the people person , but actually I'm the greatest con artist that ever lived , Hell i wasn't even born in the U.S and at the time of the war on terror , I'm a muslim and became president , all the things the U.S. is against I embody , and became the highest leader on earth ... hmmmm we had the ole bait n switch pulled on us ...
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    With the risk to be disliked here, I think everyone is observing the situation from the point of view of logic. If you see it from far up without knowing anything about anything and you don't allow logic to interfere with your thinking, may be the picture will turn out far more interesting that what you could have imagined.

    This conversation here reminds me of almost every evening and my dad enraged by what our president has been doing. In our case it was staged and it was a matter of financial and political interest, closely related to the US. I think Obama should be seen in a broader context and right now we are on the level of what is happening, so we can't see from where we stand the real objective and goal of this scenario. I have the feeling he is strategically positioned because of everything he is related to to serve a purpose that is a bit further forward in the future events. Or he is just an example of how easy it is to make us play their simple crude game.

    I just figure out a what to say what I wanted to say with a small story.
    For anyone who has long wavy or surly hair they can relate to the situation of having a mouse nest forming in their hair?
    It is the situation when you wake up to discover a nice entanglement of hair that has formed during the night because of you moving your head -> hair friction on the pillowcase-< during sleep. In order to de-tangle that nice nest there you have to carefully loosen all of the involved so that you end up with ONE SINGLE hair that is the cause of your small suffering.

    Have you seen the film " The Butterfly Effect" ?
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Anyone remembering those?:

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]
    Quote Orgone In A Can

    I have never been interested very much in radionics, but the events of the last months stimulated me to focus a little more on the subject.

    Substantially it started with the Obama-Obama-Obama mind broadcast the day (it was night here) Obama was elected for president in th US.( It was posted in the "Radionics for O´Bomber and witches in the White House" - thread.)

    [...]

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Well, it would go along with this:

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    The First Time I Heard of "Barack"
    By Mr. Tom Fife
    California businessman

    During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid-1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M. He had a wife named T.M.

    V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

    One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture was invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions. As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

    The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this: "You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it." (She was referring to Geraldine Ferraro.)

    The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.

    "Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."

    The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.

    "What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

    The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

    It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

    "Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. (snip racist comment) And he's going to be your President."

    She became smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

    We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

    She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

    She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

    At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

    Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."

    She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way. So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

    Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

    Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread412312/pg1

    http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi...i?ArtNum=10570

    “This is Tom Fife

    Background: I have a degree in Physics and have worked primarily in aerospace and software development. In 1991 I became involved with an Englishman who was performing relief efforts into the collapsing Soviet Union. These efforts were performed through Orthodox churches in Britain and the US plus some churches in Germany. Money was raised from all over and sent to Germany to purchase the goods, which were then trucked into Moscow to be distributed by the Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church.While doing all of this, I met many talented people in the Russian Academy of Science and eventually formed a Joint-Venture with some to develop sophisticated software.Dr. M. headed the Russian side. He had a wife whom people told me was a staunch Communist. It is my understanding that she was one of the party officials that worked in a company to be the contact point and keep a party eye on things. She was degreed in her own right and was a solid right hand to her husband.Why did she get so loose-tongued? I am not sure, but there were traditional Russian toasts being delivered through the evening and each of those were punctuated by a shot of very cold vodka. Also, there were some remarks made by an American in our group concerning his observations of the racial make up of the Russian people. This visibly irritated her, and I believe that was the emotional trigger for her to want to predict a racial comeuppance for the white America to which we were returning.Why didn't I publish the story upon my return in 1992? At that point it was talk. It was very disturbing talk, but I had a life that I was living and that kept me busy while I wasn't sure how I could every attempt to track down this mystery man she mentioned. In the end, he never left my mind really, but I didn't ruminate on it, either. I did mention this to my son upon my return and it was because of that that he is my most solid defender. He remembers me warning him in 1992 to beware of a mulatto guy running for president with such and such laundry list of attributes.”

    “Tom Fife is legitimate. I worked with him in the aerospace industry that he makes reference to. I was also associated with him in an ultimately unsuccessful research company. I have known Tom since 1982. I have never know him to lie about anything. Everything he says in his original essay and in this blog are consistent with the facts as I know them. He has told me the full names of V. and T. He does not want to reveal their names before they are tracked down and interviewed.

    When this is all verified and fully exposed it will be the biggest news in at least a generation.”
    American Town Meeting


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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
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    maybe this all comes down to bringing the country back together after the deepest division since the civil war...

    in a few weeks, suddenly painting the one half the country loves as the villain, it would in a moment break down the walls to bring us back together, was this all just an experiment on manipulation of the public to prepare for the next round that might work?
    Rocky, Could you elaborate a bit more on this theme? I am interested in the whole notion of bringing the country together, because it has been used as a meme to allow major compromises in D.C. where reaching across the aisle, generally means any good that is/was there acquiesces to self interested corporate orcs.
    well, Obama is done with politics, if they can get Democrats to stop fighting so hard for Obama it closes the rift between the bought and paid for party representatives...

    Obama isn't dumb and knew whatever stance he took on Syria and Iran, Republicans would take the opposite stance, even becoming anti war, very un neocon of them...

    the Zionist that want a final war in the middle east, needed America to attack Syria, drawing Iran into the war...

    as soon as he said let's go to war, it was shut down by congress, disappointing Israel, the war machine, oil cartels and bankers...

    in one fell swoop, the future of the world changed, while they were all trying to get the war back in motion, Obama did the unthinkable and offered an olive leaf to Iran, which they gladly accepted

    The Ayatolla hasn't been seen since a test to show Syria capabilities of their new weapons, which somehow exploded setting off an earthquake centered at the launch facility...

    what is amazing is how fast we are moving away from WW III, Putin is flexing his muscles and the Jewish lobby seems to have no power in decisions of congress...

    the tea party confusion thrown into the republican party seems to be a huge part of the plan.

    once WW III is off the table, I can see Obama ready to head to the islands to retire, health care reform has begun, next controlling health care cost will become important...

    it was hard fought, but those angry, I really feel are the evil controlling this world we all want to toss out...

    the attempted assassination of Obama if it would have succeeded, would have reignited the hatred to the point of mass riots...

    once again the shadow government has failed, the renegade puppet is destroying their plans...

    Go Ninja's!!!
    If Obama stopped WWIII in this way – and this does seem to be what has happened by a devious route - then he is to some extent a free agent after all and/or his handlers really shot themselves in some vital organ.

    In these debates, we always tend to overlook the presence of more than one faction. And we always tend to overlook the presence of more than one (bathmological) level to any situation.

    The controllers’ overall control of the masses is so massive that they are down to the real business of fighting it out amongst themselves. This has been going on for a long time already and has seriously muddied the water for anyone trying to understand. On the other hand, you would have to be extremely naïve to think that there are white hats sitting pretty in government among the black hats, and occasionally leaking stuff. It has to go much deeper than that.

    First, there are the Republican and Democrat factions – not the same thing at all despite what some people would have us believe. There is a huge difference. The ‘Bomb bomb Iran for Armageddon by 2012’ party lost the last two elections, and that is a very big deal, because, also contrary to popular belief, the President does have a powerful role to play. If he didn’t, then why are we always complaining about his executive orders and other decisions?

    There are also factions within each camp. In 2004, Hillary Clinton was supposed to win, but as I recall from Dan Burisch, she backed out when she learned that she would be assassinated. For some reason, the looking-glass technology she used could not see beyond 2012.

    We are now in a post-2012 situation where everything is up for grabs. In the Vatican, the Petrus Romanus script has been torn up, and we have a Jesuit of all people doing all the things one would like to see a world leader doing. We have become so suspicious that it has to be still part of the evil agenda. But I am thinking this is the only way to get the job done – an impossible job by all accounts. Why has this pope not been assassinated yet? He is doing the same things as got John Paul I killed within 33 days. Answer, a) he has a subtler game plan: gaining acceptance among the opposition to a certain extent will alienate one’s supporters; and b) times have changed: we were never supposed to reach this point.

    The same may apply to Obama. Supposing, as I did just now, that you need to get a good man into the White House, you cannot possibly do it by voting in a Harry Lennix, it’s just not going to happen. You need a bona fide hardcore politician, someone who is blackmailable in every possible way, and more publicly so than anyone else. In this way, you have the opposition doing the work for you. First in showing up Obama for what he is, they are revealing the workings of politics generally, themselves included; and secondly, they are reinforcing Obama’s alibi as a scoundrel while he pushes forward the agenda of stopping world wars and such. Obama is a puppet, and an excellent one, groomed from childhood, but whose puppet? He is an actor, but what role is he playing? A villain pretending to be good, or a good man pretending to be a villain?

    This being so, we need to ponder on different varieties of disclosure - why some stuff is coming out and other stuff is not. But I have said too much. Disagreement is welcome: the more the better


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