Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

[Hervé]

Posted by blufire (here)
[...]

If ‘they’ truly wanted to simply eliminate millions or even billions of people worldwide then they would STOP advancing medicine that keeps people alive for longer than ever before and especially people in 3rd world countries that are ravaged by complicated ruthless diseases or how about global hunger? I know this is a huge sore topic for most on Avalon but if it weren’t for gmo grains billions in third world countries would be dead. Remember the massive starvation of the 60’s and 70’s? This has nearly been eliminated.

[...]

That's the propaganda... the reality is pure psychopathic behavior: harm, maim or kill under the guise of "Let me help you..." :

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Case 22A-B-C-D Hot Sodas Courtesy of Those... ?


In 1937, a chemist in immunology studies, Walther Goebel, at Rockefeller University reports on the urine analysis of dogs fed benzoic acid;

“When benzoic acid is ingested by dogs, it is excreted in the urine
partly in the form of hippuric acid and partly as a benzoyl ester
of glucuronic acid. The detoxication of aromatic [=benzene related] organic acids by conjugation with glucuronic acid is one of the important physiological mechanisms of man and certain animals.” http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/122/3/649.pdf

Clearly, this Rockefeller scientist believes that benzoic acid is toxic and has to be detoxified by the animal.

In 1943, another scientist at Rockefeller University writes a report on p-amino benzoic acid (PABA), citing that in very low doses it prevents sulfa antibiotics from working. At the time, sulfa drugs were the only antibiotics other than penicillin which was not yet in use. The scientist states that it has been shown to prevent sulfa drugs from inhibiting the growth of a strain of Clostridia. Yes, this is the same PABA chemical that was put in sunscreens.

[...]

Clearly, the utility of doing that study during the war was to figure out how to prevent the treatment of gas gangrene due to war wounds.

“one molecule of p-aminobenzoic acid antagonized 23,000 molecules of sulfanilamide” www.jem.org/cgi/reprint/78/4/255.pdf

[...]

When I thought about the US troop’s sodas sitting in the sun, I wondered what the petrochemicals turned into in the heat. I figured that the writer of that CIA internal memo might know. The writer, on investigation, turned out to be a microbiologist at the US Army’s Chemical and Biological Warfare Labs at Fort Detrick Maryland. I called him up and told him that I would like to meet with him over a cup of coffee. He agreed and we set a time and place.

[...]

In response to my questions he admitted that the water being used in Iraq was to his knowledge not the problem. He said that he wrote the memo because benzoic acid was being added to the sodas and was the “petrochemical derivative” that was of concern. He said that it was a very useful chemical to fed populations in war zones because its heat caused metabolites which increased their risk of dying from wounds and dysentery. I asked him, if that is the case, then why was it being used in sodas given the troops. He looked at me that I was dense or naive. He said, “It is there to decrease VA hospital bills.” I said, “But that is absurd.” He said, “No, think about it. If a soldier is healthy, not much happens when he drinks the sodas. But if he gets seriously wounded then he is likely to get a wound infection. Then he will die from it and not be a long term burden on the VA with an amputated leg, say.”

[...]

... You can go into an area where people are dying from dysentery and give them sodas and look like a hero. You know what the standard treatment for dysentery is now? Sodas. People consider them “safe” to drink beverages because they are sterile. Orange based sodas have the potassium in them that is needed to help replace the electrolytes. All you change is whether you heat them first as to whether you supply them to harm or help. It was truly a brilliant idea. We are really changing how we do things at the Lab. The people in the hot climates are overpopulating the world--now we can combat that effortlessly. People with AIDS in Africa, India, etc. just need a little help over the edge. We are giving them that help.”

[...]

What that “Final Solution” researcher had told me was that in the heat the Benzoate/Benzoic Acid turned into not just benzene but PABA (para-amino benzoic acid). There is some amino acids in the beverages, at least in ones with plant extracts in them. He said furthermore, some of it turns into PABA inside the human body where there are lots of amino acids and moderate heat as well. He said that the bacteria just need trace amounts of it to grow like a rocket. I said, I did not see how bacteria could grow on a crude oil slick. He said, “They can’t. But many of them grow better than ever before, when small amounts of oil is added to a lake. He said, look at all those contaminated lakes up near Detroit; people just changed their car oil and let the oil seep into the ground, or just a few drops of oil from their outboard motors got into the water. Bingo, the water is full of nasty bacteria.” He continued, “That is why the water is not drinkable in the US anymore, because it takes so little pollution by oil to make the bacteria take it over. I played skeptical and asked him to send me a paper on it. He did. I read it in some detail.

The paper was about a small town in Africa during an epidemic of cholera. Some inhabitants were given the pre-heated sodas and some were not. The town’s people were not told that they were being studied for how well they could be killed off! Both putting the benzoate in the sodas and the study were unethical in my opinion. The town folk believed that the researcher and his staff were there to help them. The mortality was 40% higher in the group given the heat treated sodas. This was not a town with a particularly high AIDS rate. Less than 10% of the people were HIV positive. The study had tested people for HIV. Those who had AIDS and cholera had a high incidence of death, about 80%, if they drank the heat treated sodas. Their mortality if they came down with cholera was high anyway, about 50%. Those with just cholera and regular sodas had less than a 2% death rate.

From Sue Arrigo's case 22B.


Innocuous sunscreens and cosmetics to interact with laced vaccines and water from the "poisonned wells"... and there is the loaded gun held at the head of the female of the species of "useless eaters."

“Depopulation should be the highest priority of US foreign policy towards the Third World….”. Henry Kissinger National Security Memorandum (NSSM 200) early 1970’s

[sheme]

It doesn't matter who the propaganda is designed to damn it is a low form of sensationalism designed to discredit the subject- the fact that so many members of Avalon are hurling rocks here because of these poorly photoshopped pictures and one fair skinned redhaired ladies testament (encouraged by some to believe she is doing the lords work)about I am not sure what. What ever Obama is- the quality of his opposition revealed here with tactics like these is embarrassingly similar to the PTW.

[blufire]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by blufire (here)
. . . .and you actually believe all those years of ‘recorded history’ grip?

Well, I've been to Egypt and seen the pyramids, stood in the kings chamber, sailed down the Nile and stopped at every temple and sacred site, looked at the things "carved in stone", the hieroglyphs, drawings and such, studied ancient Greek, Chinese, Indian, Hebrew and Roman history as well as the Sumerian stone tablets, Gilgamesh, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hamadhi, Plato, Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita, and all of the other ancient carvings which basically tell the same story. Of course you could refute all this and a case could be made that all history is written by the victors, and is manipulated as well.

I’ve also read and studied Micheal Cremo, Joseph Farrell, Graham Hancock, Nassim Haramein, Michael Tsarion, Zacariah Stichen, Bruce Lipton, Eustice Mullens, Michael Tellinger, Andrew Collins, Gregg Braden, Ken Wilbur, and a host of others.

Even though I have never been (in this lifetime) in the Vatican library, or the ancient monasteries of Tibet where all of the history of planet earth has been preserved, it is undeniable that a central theme remains and can be corroborated with the archeological and genomic records as well as what we are witnessing now in our current experience.

If you have an alternative reality, which can be corroborated and substantiated based on the archeological records as well as the genomic records, please elucidate. Otherwise, I am leaning toward all those years of historical evidence, based on the archeological, genomic, biological, and written records in stone.

What else you got?

I have done the same as you have listed other than the part about the Nile River. I would add to the list that I have visited most of the Mayan and Aztec ruins. I have an extensive personal library. . . . .it took 156 */- boxes to haul it all from Kansas to Virginia when I moved.

What story do you see these ancients are saying? What theme do you see? What historical evidence are you seeing or believing is being presented

. . . . . or are you standing by the ‘interpretations’ of all this ancient information


Look I know I am being aggravating, but I tell you what, we can’t even interpret books and information that is right before our eyes and we are currently living so how in the hell can we stand solid on what was documented thousands of years ago.

Look at the Christian Bible. It is one book and look at the forty eleven hundred different churches and beliefs and interpretations based on this one book . . .not to mention the wars and hatred those interpretations have caused.

I am offering a different view based on years of observation and research and from my childhood contact. Most of all from what I see happening on a foundational level (globally).

I am coming from a very neutral balanced place . . .no fear . . no hate . . . just watching and remembering.

[superconsciousness]

Posted by sheme (here)
It doesn't matter who the propaganda is designed to damn it is a low form of sensationalism designed to discredit the subject- the fact that so many members of Avalon are hurling rocks here because of these poorly photoshopped pictures and one fair skinned redhaired ladies testament (encouraged by some to believe she is doing the lords work)about I am not sure what. What ever Obama is- the quality of his opposition revealed here with tactics like these is embarrassingly similar to the PTW.

I strongly agree with you. I am missing what exactly makes Obama more insidious than any of our past presidents? They all have worked for big money and its chain of power. Bill Clinton was accused of being a manchurian candidate communist back in the day and the fact that really crude photoshop of Obama in drag is presented as credible evidence of his gay-ness - along with gay slamming as proof of his nefariousness - that the way he bummed cigarettes was psycho - is lame.

As for the claim of communism - that's all out absurd. Communism doesn't exist. There's still a show of it in China, but it's morphed into something entirely different and Russia? Is Russia communist? Is trying to create a national healthcare system proof of his manchurian roots? The Congress and military have it - but it's somehow disastrous if the whole country gets it?

The GMO agenda is the biggest threat we are facing - in my opinion. The aluminum dusting - the secret agendas .... but clearly Obama is not the architect of them and they have been going on through several President residencies. Please can someone illuminate why Obama is "the most scary"?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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@ blufire: after reading your post #106 above (with some disbelief, I have to admit), I'd like to ask you this question:

Posted by childs hood end (here)

even with all barack barry has done I think he is part of an agenda for the better of all...

Do you agree with this statement that Obama is "part of an agenda for the better of all?"

Please answer definitively and with detailed reasons. Many thanks.

You are gonna have to clarify Bill before I can answer.

Do you want me to answer in the context of child hood’s end statement because you used his/her post?

Because if I did answer within that context then it would be an undeniable emphatic no.

OK, thanks! So you do emphatically NOT agree that Obama is part of an agenda for the better[ment] of all.

What do you think Obama's agenda is, then? I'd be interested in your opinion.

Posted by blufire (here)
Also, if we are going to go down the road that Obama is the antichrist or the forerunner of the ‘true’ antichrist, then we are going to have to define who Christ was and if we support/believe the organized religion and dogma of Christianity

My short answer to that is I do not believe he is the antichrist OR the forerunner to the true antichrist because most have not a clue who Jesus Christ actually was and why his bloodline is so important . . . .

My reference to an 'Antichrist' was a metaphor. I meant it as a generalized descriptor for someone who is actually (or whose agenda is) purely evil, and whose function might be to implement the coup de grace, with a smile and an all-too-credible velvet glove.

This idea was a mere guess (one of many possible) to explain why Obama might have been set up to be the fall guy, a patsy to blame and pave the way for someone or something else: maybe much worse.

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by addsub (here)
Don't EVER lose sight of the fact that the name of the game is CONTROL.

Yes and whether one understands the outcome and reason of the control.

Then I would suggest once you (if you want to) understand the reason and supposed outcome of the control you then read Sun Tzu’s book ‘The Art of War’

Once one understands the foundational reasons ‘control’ slips away. . . . but if choose to apply your own ‘control’ in defense then you become a victim (again) of their initial control.

I agree 100%. There are other ways to counter the plans of the NWO than taking pitchforks, or guns, to the streets.

Force is not the answer. Education, liberation, support, the provision of many kinds of enabling resources, and the encouragement of real freedom of thought, may be. And there are also many spiritual measures that can be taken to mitigate the designed controlling effects.

Posted by blufire (here)
. . . .and which part are you in disbief with (gmo part?). . . or is it my entire post?

I disbelieve the following components of your post (and to debate them in detail might best be on a separate thread). My strong opinions are that:

• We ARE being murdered and enslaved.

• They are NOT not advancing technology that is liberating mankind. (Free Energy is totally suppressed, because it threatens the hegemony of Big Oil.) You surely know this. Visit Wade Frazier's thread and ask him. He understands, and will explain in detail if it is helpful.

• There is no advancement of medicine (or anything else) that keeps people living quality lives for longer than ever before. I have a 1990 photo, that I can post separately, of a group of 45 centenarians in Vilcabamba, Ecuador, who were all over 110 (a hundred and ten) years old. No-one now lives that long there. The famous Vilcabamba centenarians are almost extinct.
  
  The reasons for their demise are not known for sure, but in my opinion it's very likely to be because of the huge reduction of quality of the food in the local shops and markets. It was never medicine in the first place that kept these people alive and healthy for very long periods (the oldest in the group, I understand, was over 150). It was everything that was natural. And NOTHING that was UNnatural.
  
  Scourges such as smallpox have been eradicated, and that's a good thing. But we should not think that statistically longer life is always a higher quality life. Visit any Old People's Home in the western world to see. The incidence of Alzheimer's is at a record high level, and that has everything to do with toxins and heavy metals that are not any part of the natural environment.

• One of the entirely possible strategies connected with GMO seeds is to CREATE global famine and to reduce population that way. How? Create mass dependency, and then turn off the switch.

• I do not believe AT ALL that this technology "gives people a fighting chance". I'd like to share an experience I had in a modern supermarket in Loja, Ecuador, about a year and a half ago. I've posted this before, but it bears repeating.
  
  The direct and vivid personal experience I had was that they really were trying to kill us all -- frog-in-the-heated-pot-slowly, and with enough information leaked out there so that disregarding it is our responsibility, not 'theirs'.
  
  I knew this before as a concept, but this time it was palpable: I could stand in the globalists' shoes, and I felt their hate for the common person, as if we were so many verminous cockroaches. It was that strong. Their plan is to convince us to kill ourselves, and then laugh at us for being so gullible as to be like lemmings following each other over cliffs that should be obvious to anyone with perception and intelligence.

• It's not necessarily true at all that if "‘they’ wanted millions or billions of us dead it would have already happened". They need to make us redundant first as the workforce of the world, and they're not quite ready to do that yet.
  
  'Useless eaters' still work in the factories that make everything stockpiled in the thousands of underground bases. 'Useless eaters' still drive the machines that create those tunnel systems. When everything is automated -- then their plan is to downsize the human race. But not till the automation is in place.

I should clarify my stance, which is non-negotiable, rock solid, and crystal clear: that the NWO plans are evil, being implemented by evil people (and/or beings).

They do not have the best interests of humanity at heart. They are serving something else.

I profoundly disagree with your stance, and although I know you believe what you are saying, and I respect your courage in telling your truth, I feel that you are just as profoundly incorrect and I strongly suspect you have been misled by others who wish you to be a promoter of an evil agenda. And I write those words knowing exactly what they mean.

In my opinion, you are inadvertently doing the cause for human freedom a huge disservice. It is a significant personal frustration for me that you cannot seem to see this.

I do believe you are well-intentioned: but in your words and vectors you promote, you might as well not be.

[risveglio]

Well I think Obama is definitely a Marxist and I am not the only one. It's what is taught in our most prestigious universities. Sorry about the source (Beck scares me) but one of Obama's former schoolmates (maybe) explains it pretty well here.

What Obama and I Learned at Columbia: How to Destroy America From Within
http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...a-from-within/

[gripreaper]

Posted by blufire (here)

I am offering a different view based on years of observation and research and from my childhood contact. Most of all from what I see happening on a foundational level (globally). I am coming from a very neutral balanced place . . .no fear . . no hate . . . just watching and remembering.

I understand that. Correct me if I am wrong, but your "subjective" childhood experiences are corroborating the need for GMO, chemtrailing, microwaving and terraforming earth because of some cataclysmic "event" which will wipe out the current genome and is therefore necessary to sustain life "after" the event, based on the need for humans and animal and plant species to adapt and survive with radiation and the existing conditions which will be prevalent post apocalypse.

This is somehow benevolent on the part of the controllers to preserve the integrity and the survival of the species and there is NO ALTERNATIVE to this scenario. It is carved in stone so to speak.

Well, the alternative narrative, context and scenario, which is corroborated by history, suggests that a group of off world interlopers descended upon this planet and altered the DNA of the indigenous species for their own nefarious reasons, and are now reaping the results of that manipulation and find it necessary to alter the genome again in order to maintain that agenda.

All of our institutions: government, religious, education, media, finance and corporate production is designed for the benefit of these few psychopathic interlopers at the behest of the 7 billion sentient empathic hybridized beings on planet earth. The current structure of control can be back engineered thousands of years and corroborated by history.

Where you and I disagree, is whether these beings are benevolent or malevolent in their intent. I am leaning towards a nefarious viewpoint based on all of the available evidence. My added subjectivity is not corroborated with alien childhood visitations, but what is available historically and what is available based on what these elite are doing.

What these elite are doing goes against nature and goes against the current genome. This is fact, not a subjective interpretation.

[Hervé]

Posted by surfer (here)
[...]

.... Please can someone illuminate why Obama is "the most scary"?

He is finishing the job started by his predecessors: look at his executive orders. Particularly the ones having to do with the by-pass of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights and getting those so-called "US of A" directly under the fold of the "UN."

[christian]

Posted by CurtisW (here)
A distraction. The real question: who has declared open season on Obama? Why have they done it?

And why now?

Maybe it is mostly just a distraction. But these new revelations could also be due to the growing courage among potential whistleblowers. After all, we're working on that!

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
1) Assisting People

a) Whistleblowers and others in a position to publish critical information

[onawah]

Gripreaper, are any of your conclusions based on Zecharia Sitchin's work?

[RMorgan]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Well I think Obama is definitely a Marxist and I am not the only one.

This is a common misconception.

Just tell me one thing Obama has done towards the Marxist/Socialist/Communist direction. Just one.

Sure, he's obviously walking towards fascism, but fascism itself has nothing to do with Marxism. Fascism is not a political system; It's a quality that can be applied to any political system.

This is the usual Alex Jones far right brainwashing...

As far as I know and as far as evidences go, Obama has been totally working in favor of mega-capitalist institutions, taking money from the poor and middle class and giving it to the super-rich, which is exactly the opposite of the Marxist ideal.

Raf.

[Realeyes]

[add on: please excuse, I am a slow writer, and the thread discussion has since moved on at a fast pace while I collected my thoughts to type my post below referring to the previous page discussion.]

Bill’s word “Disbelief” is a good word to describe my thoughts right now....when I read such insidious agendas are ‘somehow’ helping humanity....

Earth’s history is millions of years rich, and quite frankly after 20+ years of researching deep down the rabbit hole, I no longer give a tinkers cuss what ‘god/ET’ that proclaims to be our progenitor of the Human Race, nor the same old stories of DNA mixing to appease some old galactic wars that keep our attention ‘seeking’ – just because they have dabbled with our 'vehicles DNA' does not make them our ‘Masters’ – each of US has SOUL & SPIRIT and are ETERNAL CONSCIOUS BEINGS.

After 40+ years of out of body experiences exploring Consciousness delving into levels that go way beyond physical form/ET’s etc – and discovering my Greater Aware Conscious Self of BEing Knowingness Spirit – I refuse to bow down or serve any ‘Being’ that proclaims they are ‘our gods’ and only ‘they’ know what is “best for Humanity” – I just know such concepts quite frankly are a total hoodwink of superstitious disempowering bullsh@.

I say IT MUST BE TIME to allow HUMANITY to spiritually evolve ‘NATURALLY’ - we’ve had millions of years of outsider manipulation, DNA modification, Earth Changes etc, etc........................Yawn.......

I say Enough is Enough - NO MORE STEERING by ‘others’ and go mind your own business - WE WANT TO BE OURSELVES!

It is TIME for humanity to explore and reconnect and RE-remember their OWN UNIQUE Divine Consciousness bypassing any self appointed/acclaimed Inter-mediaries.

Surely it is TIME for HUMANITY to reawaken their Divine Conscious Co-Creator GODSHIP.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Well I think Obama is definitely a Marxist and I am not the only one.

This is a common misconception.

Just tell me one thing Obama has done in the Marxist/Socialist/Communist direction. Just one.

This is the usual Alex Jones far right brainwashing.

As far as I know and as far as evidences go, Obama has been totally working in favor of mega-capitalist institutions, taking money from the poor and middle class and giving it to the super-rich, which is exactly the opposite of the Marxist ideal.

Raf.

Hi, Raf -- risveglio will surely explain his view, but this might have been meant in the sense that Marxism <--> Fascism is not a linear spectrum, but a kind of circle where the "ends" actually loop round to meet.

It's arguable that both Marxism and Fascism are both fundamentally Totalitarian, in very much the same way. George Orwell made this plain in his [other] masterwork, Animal Farm. Interesting subject to discuss separately.

[SilentFeathers]

911, Dubya the hero! Then by 2007 Most people are beyond tired of Dubya and can't wait for a new president....8 years of lies and war and no personality, Dubya proves he is no hero, stale and moldy Dubya paves the way for a "savior", a "hero"......enter Barack Obama 2008. People in tears of joy and relief welcome their savior...their hero.
(Read Obama's campaign speeches, he says all the right things, the savior/hero everybody wants!)

Cult of personality

A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods, to create an idealized, heroic, and at times, god-like public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. A cult of personality is similar to hero worship, except that it is established by mass media and propaganda.

Personality cults were first described in relation to totalitarian regimes that sought to alter or transform society according to radical ideas.[4] Often, a single leader became associated with this revolutionary transformation, and came to be treated as a benevolent "guide" for the nation without whom the transformation to a better future couldn't occur. This has been generally the justification for personality cults that arose in totalitarian societies of the 20th century, such as those of Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Joseph Stalin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

[gripreaper]

Posted by onawah (here)
Gripreaper, are any of your conclusions based on Zecharia Sitchin's work?

Well, Stichen got some of it right, and other things he extrapolated and biased based on his subjectivity. Some have said he was commissioned by the Illuminati, of which he was a member, to interpret the Sumerian stone tablets and cylinder seals. Therefore, his interpretations are subject to additional verification from other sources in order to triangulate a postulate which has a high enough percent probability to be considered as a variable for a more collated and synthesized context.

The postulate which states that beings from other planets and solar systems visited earth and manipulated the genome, used these hybridized creatures to mine gold for themselves which they took off planet, and summarily eliminated all indigenous humans who were not part of their hybrids, while expanding their agendas and their influence across the entire planet, after almost totally destroying earth through a cataclysmic event which they themselves perpetuated, causing them to be stuck here for millennium until they were able to rebuild their technology which they lost...

Well, I think he got that part right. As far as Nibiru and the 3600 year orbit and some of his other postulates, there is no way to know for sure how correct he was or how influenced he was by his connections, commissions, and subjective bias.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

It's arguable that both Marxism and Fascism are both fundamentally Totalitarian, in very much the same way. George Orwell made this plain in his [other] masterwork, Animal Farm. Interesting subject to discuss separately.

Not arguable at all, Bill.

Marx was as man. The so called Marxism involves dozens of different schools of thoughts based in his writings.

Marxism, as well as Socialism, is a very generic term. There are Socialist models who are mostly opposed to each other in every sense.

The core of Orwell's brilliant book could be applied to any power structure;It's what we see every day in our own capitalist system, by the way. Power changes people, independently of the system. This has nothing to do with capitalism or socialism, left or right; This is mostly connected to human nature and the undeniable flexibility of morals.

Of course, this doesn't change that FACT the Obama has done nothing towards Marxism or even Fascist Socialism...He's been doing exactly the opposite, crashing both the poor and the middle class in favor of the super-rich and mega-corporations.

Obama is definitively not a Socialist or even Marxist.

Raf.

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Gripreaper, are any of your conclusions based on Zecharia Sitchin's work?

Well, Stichen got some of it right, and other things he extrapolated and biased based on his subjectivity. .

Well, as far as all actual ancient Sumerian language experts state, and these are people from all over the world, Sitchin was not qualified to make any translations at all and the biggest part of his books came straight out of his imagination.

There are plenty of Sumerian dictionaries available online, which are basically the same that Sitchin used to write his books, and none of them are corroborative to his views.

So, as far as I have investigated, Sitchin's books are at least 90% fabricated, with no real substance at all.

In fact, the Sumerians left their own dictionaries. There's not really any space left to question if their interpretation of their own language was accurate or not.

Feel free to believe that Sitchin was more correct than the Sumerian dictionaries themselves, though...

[Oouthere]

Silent,

Do you believe it was because Bush was not a hero or because people knew 9/11 was reported as a lie and blacks will simply vote for a black man that caused Obama to win?

Over 75% of the blacks still believe Obama is doing a good job while roughly 60% of other races believes he is not.

Rich

[risveglio]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Well I think Obama is definitely a Marxist and I am not the only one.

This is a common misconception.

Just tell me one thing Obama has done towards the Marxist/Socialist/Communist direction. Just one.

Sure, he's obviously walking towards fascism, but fascism itself has nothing to do with Marxism. Fascism is not a political system; It's a quality that can be applied to any political system.

This is the usual Alex Jones far right brainwashing...

As far as I know and as far as evidences go, Obama has been totally working in favor of mega-capitalist institutions, taking money from the poor and middle class and giving it to the super-rich, which is exactly the opposite of the Marxist ideal.

Raf.

What's a mega-capitalist institution? Where is there capitalism again? I think there is plenty of horrible Marxism and Socialism in Obama and his policies. I say horrible because they are really horrible ideas, corrupt, horrible, ideas.

[RMorgan]

Posted by risveglio (here)

What's a mega-capitalist institution? Where is there capitalism again? I think there is plenty of horrible Marxism and Socialism in Obama and his policies. I say horrible because they are really horrible ideas, corrupt, horrible, ideas.

So, I would be glad to read your arguments indicating that Obama is a Marxist and has been applying Marxist policies.

Really, if you can substantiate your claims, I'd have no problems to change my mind.

By the way, mega-capitalist institutions are private corporations. In most Socialist models, basically, there would be no gigantic private corporations at all, specially those associated with essential commodities.

If Obama was a Socialist, one of the first things he would've done was to nationalize these companies. There would be no private corporations at all.

However, as far as I know, the USA is mostly owned by private corporations, though..And Obama's done nothing to change that.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Oouthere (here)
Silent,

Do you believe it was because Bush was not a hero or because people knew 9/11 was reported as a lie and blacks will simply vote for a black man that caused Obama to win?

Over 75% of the blacks still believe Obama is doing a good job while roughly 60% of other races believes he is not.

Rich

I believe most people were fed up with the Bush presidency and Obama's campaign speeches were brilliant and a breath of fresh air. I also believe some white people didn't vote for him simply because he's black and I also believe many black people voted for him simply because he's black, but regardless of who voted for who and why doesn't really matter, IMO, Obama had the job before the votes were counted. The election was just a promotion/marketing of the guy, he can't be a winner without appearing to be a winner....