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    Default Kybernetes: Physics and the Psychic Flame

    This thread is a culmination of threads, careful thoughts, deep rooted senses, reflections, and observations.

    Material will be carefully selected and expounding upon from these threads:
    Anamnesis: The Patterns of Light and Life

    The Psyche: Metaphors of Meaning

    The Technological Revolution: Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague

    The Mechanics of the Matrix
    I will gladly add more threads to the list, and discussion is encouraged. I'm not interested in much else except for the truth. I would love to hear what the community here has to share. This is what I have to share regarding knowledge, it's not much in the grand scheme of things and there's much more unknown than known.

    The other thing I have to share is love, which is a little more difficult to get across in this medium.

    This topic is multi-storied and multidimensional. It is very important to me.

    The views expressed here are subject to change and I reserve the right to alter them at anytime.

    Thank you Avalon.

    Peace.

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    This system is not reality; this is not the natural way of things.

    Human perception is a fractured lens in an instrument of awareness that has been compromised in terms of functionality. This instrument is the soul.

    We have been unplugged from the outlet that connects us with our spiritual heritage. The circuit has been dammed and that disconnect must be acknowledged.

    It is this acknowledgement that eventually starts the fire, a fire that begins to blaze with curiosity and wonder. We question everything.

    Synchronicities gently attempt to guide us, we must be willing to recognize the metaphors of meaning. They are whispers that rise up from a very deep, very wise, and very ancient part of our psyche.

    It is these whispers that fan the flame. When properly kindled and fed the proper fuel, this fire will be our chrism.

    We are like flowers. We take in light from the heavens, yet we remain rooted in the energies of Mother Earth.

    This planet is part of a larger system of planets – the solar system. Our central star is one of billions swirling around a gigantic cluster of light at the center of the galaxy. The Milky Way Galaxy is one of billions in the universe that dance around the stellar canvas of space in a cosmic symphony of light and life. These galaxies all vary in size, flavor, and character – all uniquely orchestrated.

    It’s the beat of this symphony that we have imbedded in our collective psyche. Deep inside, we hum the tune, not remembering how we know it. The chorus becomes too faint to hear as our perception becomes drowned in the matrix. We become consumed by the pretense, by the illusion.

    We are all connected. A worn term perhaps, empty of further explanation for those too busy to think, too loud to listen, and too distracted to see what’s right in front of them.

    Modern science is beginning to uncover unseen forces and offer up theories of ubiquity that describe how all of matter is associated with omnipresent fields of influence that underscore the material universe.

    The gravity of our own planet licks the very boundaries of space, if there is such a thing. All the way out there, it has an influence, however minute.

    In fact, the gravitational effect of all celestial objects stretches out in all directions, forever. Of course, the strength of such fields is asymptotically related to distance. Yet, the fact still remains – all objects with mass have a gravitational effect on one another.

    Objects have gravity because it is an intrinsic property for objects that have mass. According to physics, objects have mass because they are passing through an invisible field of energy that interpenetrates and underlies all of space. This is known as the Higgs Field and it endows particles with mass -- according to the theory.

    These scientific principles illustrate the intimate connection of all objects in the material universe, from a scientific perspective. We are all feeling Saxe's elephant. These are crumbs of truth, and there are many culinary critics in the world.

    The effervescent void of space is also flooded with electromagnetic radiation.
    This spectrum of radiation is all of the energy known by science, apart from gravity maybe. It's all the light mainstream science can measure, classify, and categorize.



    There well may be finer forms of energy that scientific instruments are currently incapable of measuring.

    A good analogy for an instrument would be a fishing net. The size of fish the net can catch depends on the size of the openings in the weave. The openings could be small enough to catch shrimp or even krill. This would indicate a precise instrument. If the net was the only way to pull out information about the smallest creatures in the ocean then the fishers would only be able to say that their catches contained the smallest of these creatures.

    Yet, there are smaller organisms -- even microorganisms! They are very important components of the oceanic ecosystem. There is also the very compound of water to consider. It fills the canvas of space in which the organisms of the ocean live. This is like the Higgs field.

    The more precise the instruments of the fishers or scientists, the finer their catches and measurements of the environment in question.

    There are finer and subtler energies that permeate the universe. Mainstream science is still shrinking it's net.

    There are two kinds of science. There is an external science in which we observe and measure universe by external means (with our gross senses and scientific instruments). In this science, observations are explained by their relationship with other objects by previous observations.

    The internal science is a science of subtler energies. This is the science of yogis, mystics, seers, and astral travelers.

    There are energies which science cannot observe directly. Only the effects of such energies can be observed. Gravity is an example. Another example is dark matter.

    Dark matter is believed to be the scaffolding for the material universe -- a dense, branched web that regular matter is built upon. The matter that we can see readily resembles a intricate web of visible light. We know this from simulations performed by supercomputers. Dark matter creates the subtle ligaments that connect the manifold limbs of light and life in the universe.



    So, the material form of the cosmos first takes shape in a realm of finer energies that haven’t been observed yet by scientific instruments, but that modern science acknowledges nonetheless. They refer to this elusive matter to as dark only because scientific instruments cannot see it (but, maybe it’s just the mainstream scientists that are in the dark on the matter). It's radiation signature lies outside of the known spectrum of energies. It is a mysterious topic.

    Physics tells us that matter is composed of elementary particles, and beyond that we dive into the theories born from a quantum froth of confusion. While this is extremely interesting, it yields nothing but more secular technologies and novel theories devoid of any spiritual philosophy.

    Science and spirituality are approaching the same ultimatum from different angles. No matter how much they seem to disagree, the truth they are both seeking is self evident. It is this truth where science and spirituality will meet.

    What science knows as dark matter has long been known by the shamans of antiquity. There is one crucial difference though: the seers saw light where science could only see darkness. They were, and are, intimate with these energies.

    From, The Active Side of Infinity, by Carlos Castaneda:
    The sorcerers of ancient Mexico saw that the universe at large is composed of energy fields in the form of luminous filaments. They saw zillions of them, wherever they turned to see. They also saw that those energy fields arranged themselves into currents of luminous fibers, streams that are constant, perennial forces in the universe.

    Source: http://archive.org/stream/CarlosCast...inity_djvu.txt
    Metaphysics tells us that whatever is born in the material universe was first conceived on a plane of subtler energies. Helena Blavatsky aptly summarizes this concept.
    There can be no objective form on Earth (nor in the Universe either), without its astral prototype being first formed in Space. From Phidias down to the humblest workman in the ceramic art — a sculptor has had to create first of all a model in his mind, then sketch it in one and two dimensional lines, and then only can he reproduce it in a three dimensional or objective figure. And if human mind is a living demonstration of such successive stages in the process of evolution — how can it be otherwise when Nature’s Mind and creative powers are concerned?
    This metaphysical concept has also been captured by Rupert Sheldrake, a biochemist from Cambrige University, in his theory of formative causation. Morphogenetic fields, a crucial component in this theory, are akin to the subtle forms aforementioned by shamans and scientists alike.
    Over the course of fifteen years of research on plant development, I came to the conclusion that for understanding the development of plants, their morphogenesis, genes and gene products are not enough. Morphogenesis also depends on organizing fields […] Many developmental biologists have proposed that biological organization depends on fields, variously called biological fields, or developmental fields, or positional fields, or morphogenetic fields.

    […]

    I suggest that morphogenetic fields work by imposing patterns on otherwise random or indeterminate patterns of activity. For example they cause microtubules to crystallize in one part of the cell rather than another, even though the subunits from which they are made are present throughout the cell.

    Source: http://www.sheldrake.org/Articles%26...hic_intro.html
    Albeit Sheldrake's focus is mainly on the morphogenetic fields of biological bodies, there are other bodies as well.



    The Earth is a body, the stars have bodies, galaxies are echo the same patterns, and so does the cosmos itself.

    Where microtubules and microfilaments form the cytoskeleton of a cell, dark matter forms a cosmic skeleton for the universe.

    In addition to a structural framework, the cytoskeleton provides a means of transportation for materials. It acts like a shuttling system for information and in and around the cell.

    We can extrapolate this microcosmic fact and to the patterns above in order to understand the higher truths of nature. Dark matter also provides a means of transporting energies throughout space. It’s an evolving intergalactic highway of energy and information.

    There are also intragalactic pathways between the subsystems of galaxies as well.

    It’s a fibrous weave of interconnected branches that permeate interstellar space. Coherent streams of conscious light in an ocean of awareness. It's like a subtle body, on a truly omnipotent scale.

    This body of subtle channels also has smaller branches that splinter between the cells of the macrocosm and it is these filaments act on human beings.

    The patterns are everywhere.

    The neurons in the brain branch into dendrites. The whole nervous system crawls through the body reflecting the patterns above it. The blood vessels do the same thing. The body is a microcosm.

    Minerals, metal ore, and crystals fill the cracked crust of the planet as lava swims through its arteries.

    The trees sew their limbs through the air and thread their roots into the soil. Leaves and plants are venous too.

    Water flows through rivers and split into winding rivulets that sprawl across the land.

    Earthen cascades crackle down the rugged slopes of the mountains as flashes of lightning fragment through the sky.

    Ley lines lie webbed across the earth.

    Gaia is a body and reflects the patterns above her. She is alive.

    Energies stream between planets and other celestial bodies. Currents of plasma twist through the interstellar medium connecting stars and clusters of stars.

    An intricate tapestry, a diversified quilt of consciousness, the tree of life is thick and rich.

    Finally, at the zenith of the zoom, we see the structure of a mind in the very scaffolding of the cosmos itself. The mind of God. It grows from the cosmic heart, constantly creating from the center.

    We are all centers, and we are all creators. Remember your power.

    There are many subsystems between us and the entire grandeur of the cosmos. It's nested hierarchy of sorts, of which our existence is deep within the zoom. Each holon contains the potential to reflect the entire essence of the universe -- to discover this mirror within ourselves is to know.

    If we can deduce the complete reality of one side, we can then infer the reality of the entire system. It is readily accessible because the structure is echoed throughout the entire holoarchy; this is our great advantage in the pursuit of knowledge.

    As above, so below; you are a reflection of the universe itself. Never forget this.



    So, these subtle causeways of (not so dark) energy and information flow in-between celestial bodies. It's not only a stream of conscious light, but it contains little packets of self-awareness akin to a soul. Maybe a sheath removed.

    The soul is a subtle energetic construct that is formed in this ethereal plane. Its formation is influenced by the energies streaming through the immediate environment.

    The soul can also travel between star systems. Reincarnation may not be a natural phenomenon. It's either an immunological response, or a way to harvest energies.

    It is a self-defense mechanism and also a trap of sorts. This depends on certain factors which are still being fleshed out. More on this later.

    The Sun is energetically connected to the stars around it, albeit they seem far away. The planets revolve around the equatorial plane of the Sun. Therefore, the stars that lie around the equatorial plane of the Sun are the ones that the planets pass through during their revolutions.

    The ancients have conveniently grouped these stars together and categorized them based on the average energies coming from the different sections. These are the constellations of the Zodiac.



    There are currents of energies flowing between these asterisms and our Sun. When the Earth passes through these currents of energies the souls that incarnate there are influenced accordingly.



    A fox reads energies in the form of scents with its nose. The wind carries this information through the forest. If the wind blows by a predator and then makes its way to the fox, the flavor of that air has been altered by the predator and the fox senses this. The smell of prey or food in the air changes the flavor of the air too, and the fox will respond accordingly.

    The air can carry information about a rose or decay.

    In the same way that the scents alter the information in the air, the planets in our solar system alter the flavor of the energetic currents passing through the circuit.
    The moons and asteroids leave their mark on incoming energies to varying degrees as well.

    There are an unfathomable amount of circuits out there in space. Shown below is the circuit of our system. It has been damaged.



    The planets influence the evolution of life on Earth, and they also influence our consciousness. Recently, a new science has arisen that dips into this topic. It's called Archetypal Cosmology. Here's a breif overview by Glenn Perry.
    Whereas cosmology is the rational study of all that is, archetypology is the imaginative study of the Universe. One deals with the without of things, the other with the within. As an emerging field, archetypal cosmology bridges these two styles of reasoning – the objective/rational with the imaginal/symbolic—in a kind of sacred marriage that yields a fuller, non-dual, panpsychic understanding of the relationship between psyche and cosmos. Archetypal cosmology directly implies that all objective bodies in the Universe—from planets to subatomic particles—possess an interior, subjective reality. Nature has a within and a without; it consists of external bodies with internal experiences analogous to feelings, ideals, and intentions. The very words ‘archetypal cosmology’ suggest that the Universe has an inner and outer dimension, mirror images of the one reality that is both Psyche and Cosmos.

    Source: http://www.aaperry.com/index.asp?pgid=87
    The planets are spiritual beings, alive with their own consciousness that is animated in part by these currents of awareness flowing throughout the universe.

    The archetypes that live in our psyche are reflections of the subtle energies of the planets. They shape the mythologies and religions of the past. They also influence the evolution of life and society on Earth because we are patterned after the structure of our solar system. Which is, in turn, a holon of a larger fractal.

    The primal, subtle body of humans exists as a harmony of the spheres within this system. The energetic centers of the subtle body are patterned after the original pattern of the planets, dictated by a type of solar harmonics that create concentric spheres of formative causation around the sun. Protanthropos.

    The energy centers develop in the subtle construct of human beings according to the spiritual energies and intended paths of the planets. The physical body develops according to this ethereal model.

    This astral template is known as the Primordial Man. It is an androgynous being, this is the true Man. It has nothing to do with man or woman. It is the astral embodiment of perfect harmony between masculine and feminine forces. It’s construct is perfect according to the harmony of the spheres within our solar system, and this is what the physical body is patterned after.

    This Primordial Man is is what is known as the Son of God. The physical vehicle that grows from it is termed the Son of Man. Anthropos.

    This used to be an actualization, now it exists as human potential. We must learn of our decent and learn the way of ascent in order to get back to this glorious state of being.

    When everything is harmonic, our being resonates with the grandeur of the system above it (which resonates with the system above it, and so on).



    Yet, we are not in tune. The system has been disrupted and we no longer recognize the Truth within, as previously mentioned.

    This is evident by the way humanity treats this planet as a whole. We are not in harmony with Mother nature. We are disconnected and in lack. Technology is a product of this lack. There are technologies created from spiritual maturities and there are technologies created out of ignorance, no matter how sophisticated. The technologies of humanity is of the latter character.

    This is due to a breakage in the system directly above us. The breakage is the asteroid belt. This used to be -- or was supposed to be -- a planet. It is not and as a result the system was thrown out of balance. This disruption is also evidenced by misaligned planets and their axes of rotation.

    The circuit of our subtle makeup, corresponding and depending on the harmony of the spheres, has been shorted. As a result, our central energy channel has been severed so to speak -- it has fallen.

    We have been quarantined because the effects of this fall. It has given room for cancerous energy to spread in a viral manner through our collective psyche. This energy is mimetic, memetic, parasitical, and unnatural. It is unnatural in terms of the love, the light, and the life that the universe is naturally infused with.

    It has a tumorous potential.

    The Earth has a subtle effect on the whole system. The concept is similar to the butterfly effect. The minuscule wisp of wind produced by a butterfly can build itself into a tornado over time.

    Our planet affects the energies passing through it.

    This energy makes its way to other stars, other planets, and to sentient life elsewhere in the universe as it traverses the branched filaments of formative causation like a scent breezing through the forest.

    We have been infected as a species and things must be set straight. Our responsibility is help each other and to help the planet. It affects much more than we realize. We must rectify the deficiency.

    We cannot reassemble the pieces of a destroyed planet, but since we are mirrors of the heavens we can repair the damage done by means of internal alchemy. This is the spiritual pursuit. This is what we are seeking.

    The lost planet may have once had sentient life on it that caught a malignant energy from another system in space. This energy may have slowly made its way into the collective psyche of those beings, spreading like a virus. This contagion could have led to a psychic disconnection of that species with their Mother.

    Eventually, their world met its demise and the bulky carcass is now strewn across the planetary neighborhood. There are other possibilities too which will be discussed.

    This must not happen here, life is too precious. This is why we are here.

    More than likely, if you are reading this, you are an antibody. You are part of an immune response.
    Antibodies combine chemically with substances that the body recognizes as alien, such as bacteria, viruses, and foreign substances in the blood.

    Source: https://www.google.com/#q=define+antibody
    You have a mission here. You are a keeper of a harmonic frequency. You are here to be, to find the innate knowledge within you, and to act in love.

    We must heal ourselves and thereby heal our planet.

    This thread is about peeking behind the veil.

    Your story is ancient, and your journey is incredible. Remember how vast and intricate the life and the light of the cosmos is. It is alive.



    With Love,

    Vivek
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    Thank you for this. I still appreciate and admire your aptitude for piecing things together; accumulating knowledge from many places, while at the same time applying your creative mind and not merely adopting or adhering to some other established philosophy or paradigm.

    I too will return here, hopefully with something more inspired to say.

    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway
    You have a mission here. You are a keeper of a harmonic frequency. You are here to be, to find the innate knowledge within you, and to act in love.
    I really want to believe this... I do.

    I try, but... I am truly deficient.
    Mercy, forgiveness, and compassion are the most virtuous forms of love
    Let your heart not be hardened by injustice and tribulation

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    Awesomeness! Totally resonate with what you outline.
    Quote We cannot reassemble the pieces of the destroyed planet, but since we are mirrors of the heavens we can repair the damage done by means of internal alchemy. This is the spiritual pursuit. This is what we are seeking.
    This part spoke to me. Repairing the shattered planet within, much to consider in the implications.
    Jung would I think agree.

    Thank you for igniting this fire again. I had just this week got out my Fulcanelli books, the tribute page says 'For the Brothers of Heliopolis.' We are looking for the lost brother it seems.
    "Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves" C. G. Jung

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    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    Thank you for this. I still appreciate and admire your aptitude for piecing things together; accumulating knowledge from many places, while at the same time applying your creative mind and not merely adopting or adhering to some other established philosophy or paradigm.

    I too will return here, hopefully with something more inspired to say.

    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway
    You have a mission here. You are a keeper of a harmonic frequency. You are here to be, to find the innate knowledge within you, and to act in love.
    I really want to believe this... I do.

    I try, but... I am truly deficient.
    Freed, in the most non-religious way possible, it requires faith.

    Faith in yourself. There is a deep rooted sorrow on the planet, and we can feel it.

    Our higher selves, our souls, or whatever term you wish to cloak it with -- it's trying to teach us. This body was originally built to be in tune, but the light switch has been turned off. The subconscious mind is a dark room.

    We all have the potential to rectify. It's not about salvation, it's not about sin, and it's not about judgement. It's about forgiveness. It's all okay man. It can't all be done at once -- a millimeter is fantastic.

    Our perception of time is relative. This life is only a tiny fraction of a tick on the cosmic clock. Whenever I get down, I just think about how ancient and vast the universe is and marvel in awe that I am a part of it.

    I think of the infinite love and patience of Spirit, whatever that may be, and it settles me. Purity, patience, and perseverance are essential as Vivekananda would say.

    For me, it's also a matter of surrender. Surrendering fear, stress, worry, and any emotional baggage. I just don't want it.

    Faith is crucial too. I read in a book once that faith isn't about believing with one's eyes shut, rather it's about believing beyond the best that one can see with their eyes open.

    Your eyes are open, we just have to keep climbing. The view is incredible, it's all a matter of perspective. Keeping our tanks full of enthusiasm and optimism is important.

    We are made of stardust, as Sagan would say ... this is true and as beautiful as that is, our story is far more intricate.

    Quote He himself bringeth a cup filled with thoughts and wisdom, and soberness is in it; [and] he handeth it to the soul. And they cast it into a body which can neither sleep nor forget because of the cup of soberness which hath been handed unto it; but it will whip its heart persistently to question about the mysteries of the Light until it find them ...

    -Pistis Sophia
    Thinking good thoughts for you my friend. We are all in this together!
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    I enjoyed your post. Thank you. I do believe we are here to inspire one another; to become more than who we are or have conditioned ourselves to become.
    The concept of Falling rings true as does the Sorrow so deeply rooted in the earth and in the ancient part of "self" we may call, soul.
    Faith and Surrender are loaded terms. Religion equates this with putting one's trust in a Higher Power, Jesus or God.
    To be responsible for one's inner state of being seems to be the most powerful tool we have.
    How do we choose to feel? I must say I am one to lose faith. I have up days and down days. I am not "sure" of anything. It is like my belief systems have dissolved and my curious mind has quieted its quest. I like to be reminded how infinitely teeny we are in the greater scheme of all that is. And yet...we too are powerful beyond measure...
    Paradox
    Mystery

    Vivek, why did the asteroid belt form?
    If all is harmonics- cause and effect -as in the Butterfly analogy then this too can be explained?

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    “The supreme paradox of all thought is the attempt to discover something that thought cannot think”. -– Kierkegaard, Philosophical Fragments.

    Kierkegaard's point is that no matter how rigorous your logical system, there will always be gaps, contradictions. As these gaps cannot be dealt with at the level of the mind, it is futile to try and bridge them through argueing and reasoning. Instead, they can only be breached by a leap of faith. What characterises a leap of faith is the uncertainty that underlies it.

    Faith is by definition that which cannot be proven or disproved. That is why a leap of faith goes with some 'fear and trembling", a bit like (but not exactly), when we are young and are learning to swim. At one moment, we let go and we float. Alain Watts: "To have faith is to trust yourself to the water. When you swim you don't grab hold of the water, because if you do you will sink and drown. Instead you relax, and float.”

    Once on the other side, we 'know'. The leap of faith is the act of believing in something without having empirical evidence available at forehand. A genuine leap of faith will not be a temporary and exchangeable choice. There will be a before and after the jump. It will be deeply individual, without any guarantee of success. For Kierkegaard, this is the highest point of individual freedom.
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    Thanks a lot for this, Vivek. I feel like I can follow you in general, my greatest wonderment was when I read this:

    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
    The soul can also travel between star systems. Reincarnation may not be a natural phenomenon. It's either an immunological response, or a way to harvest energies.

    It is a self-defense mechanism and also a trap of sorts. This depends on certain factors which are still being fleshed out. More on this later.
    Looking forward to read more about this!

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    Now, the energy centers of the primordial man are connected and are dependent on the harmony of these spheres (the subtle energetic pattern of the solar system). Since, the harmony of these spheres was disrupted, so too was the corresponding energy centers of the body which was patterned after them. Therefore, the Primordial Man was rendered dormant and our physical bodies are now born ignorant. There is a disconnect – the circuit is incomplete.

    The natural flow of energies has been interrupted and polarities have developed as a result. There is a definite imbalance and the skew seems to have created a patriarchic system within our collective psyche.

    The memory of this tragedy has echoed throughout the mythological and religious histories of the Earth. The monomyth has evolved over time and it may deviate based on the cultural climate to which it adapts. The cast of memes and archetypes in the Chaoskamft undergo selection pressures that are molded by psychological manipulation, fanaticism, politics, and religion.

    Roles and relationships between the characters have changed with regards to interpreting this celestial drama, but the overall theme remains the same – a deep seated recollection of perfection, the fall from this glorious state of being, and the struggle to get back to this heavenly state of being.

    Edgar Cayce once said that religion is a longing for lost memories, and that may indeed be true.

    When the ancients painted the stars with stories and narrated the heavens, they did so while listening to the whispers of what had come to pass -- the fall of the Primordial Man.

    This was partly explained in the OP and further explained in the Anamnesis thread. It is a symbolic fact, and quite literal in a physiological sense. Carl Jung writes:
    The psyche…as a medium participates in both Spirit and Matter. I am convinced that it (the psyche) is partly of a material nature. The archetypes, for example, are Ideas (in the Platonic sense) on the one hand, and yet are directly connected with physiological processes on the other; and in cases of synchronicity they are arrangers of physical circumstances, so that they can also be regarded as a characteristic of Matter (as the feature which imbues it with meaning).
    We are literally patterned after the heavens above. Our subtle makeup reflects it, and it's this makeup that forms the basis of formation for the material body.

    The ancients have looked within and realized that we were mirrors of the external heavens. This significance is captured in their myths.

    This is what the constellation of Hercules represents. This is Engonasis, this is Adam Kadmon the anthropos. He has descended into the world.

    The constellation is upside down because he fell from grace. This is the descent of the Primordial Man. Cast down into the image. We all come into the world upside-down; it is how we are born.



    The constellations flanking Engonasis are Lyra and Corona Borealis. Lyra used to be depicted as an Eagle carrying a Lyre. The brightest star in Lyra is Vega. This star derives it’s name from an Arabic phrase which means something like “the swooping Eagle”. The Eagle was an important symbol to the early Christians. She is Epinioia of the Light.

    The Peratae, one of the earliest Gnostic sects, where aware of the anatomical relationship between the human body and the heavens.

    There is a chamber in the center of the brain. This is known as the vaulted chamber, or bridal chamber.

    On both sides of this chamber are the lateral ventricles. These ventricles pump cerebrospinal fluid throughout its designated pathways. (This is like the Heart of the brain.)

    This pumping action was described as a delicate flapping by philosophers thousands of years ago and these ventricles were interpreted as little wings.

    Therefore, the Eagle symbolizes the lateral ventricles. Of course, the Eagle symbolizes different things to different cultures; this isn’t an exclusive interpretation, but it may be more far reaching than it appears.

    The other constellation that flanks Hercules is Corona Borealis. This asterism can also be linked with a structure known to neuroanatomy -- the Corona Radiata. (The top of the head is also known as the crown.)

    These three constellations (Hercules, Lyra, and Corona Borealis) represent what is in the head of humanity. Which has not only grow from the heart, but it has grown apart from it. This is the result of a fractured system.

    Below Hercules is the constellation Ophiuchus the serpent bearer. This is the hero archetype. This is Gilgamesh, this is Thor, this is Zarathustra, this is Jesus. The hero wrestles the serpent.



    Ophiuchus represents the struggle of humanity. It is our psychospiritual plight, wrestling with the disconnect.

    Above the head (which the constellations of Hercules, Lyra, and Corona Borealis represent) is the constellation Draco. This is the Dragon that circles the pole like an ouroboros.

    This is an archetypal cosmology. A multidimensional story of being. Glenn Perry writes:
    Archetypes are akin to Ideas in the mind of a divine Being, universal patterns of meaning that serve as templates for phenomena at every level of the Universe. They not only inform and animate the psyche, but are operative in planetary movements, biological processes, everyday events, societal institutions, and virtually anything we can experience as human beings.

    Archetypes are metaphysical principles that constitute the hidden, generative matrix of life, the within of things, the interiority of the Universe. As such, the word ‘archetypal’ alludes to the imaginal, symbolic capacity of the mind to make meaning by constructing stories that serve as metaphors for deeper, underlying principles that exist beyond our senses or rational intellect.

    Archetypal language harkens back to earlier periods in human history when myth and story were our primary means for making sense of the Universe.
    [Side note: The symbolic capacity of the mind to make meaning by constructing stories that serve as metaphors for deeper, underlying principles that exist beyond our senses or rational intellect. When Perry says this, it reminds me of what skippy wrote regarding Kierkegaard's quote.

    Quote Posted by skippy (here)
    “The supreme paradox of all thought is the attempt to discover something that thought cannot think”. -– Kierkegaard, Philosophical Fragments.
    What you wrote about faith is great, thank you.]


    The echoes from the past live on through the stories of the stars. The ancients have subjectively overlaid the drama of our psyche onto the heavens. Mutually, it's the drama of our system that has influenced our psyche -- an archetypal cosmology.



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    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    [...] Vivek, why did the asteroid belt form?
    Thanks for your reply!

    A planet is supposed to have formed where the asteroid belt currently resides. Ceres is somewhere in the mix.

    Current theories suggest that one of the larger gas planets migrated at one time or another and disrupted the formation of a would be Phaeton of sorts.

    The asteroid belt is what remained from the accretion of material in that zone.

    Supposedly it never had the proper chance to coalesce due to some sort of interference.

    Then again, a planet could have formed there and has since been destroyed.

    This leads to the next post about the development of the solar system from the standpoint of archetypal cosmology, mythology, and current scientific theories of astronomy.

    Quote Posted by christian (here)
    [...] Looking forward to read more about this!
    I'm working on the other post and putting something together about reincarnation too.

    Something interesting at least.
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    Quote There is a chamber in the center of the brain. This is known as the vaulted chamber, or bridal chamber.

    On both sides of this chamber are the lateral ventricles. These ventricles pump cerebrospinal fluid throughout its designated pathways. (This is like the Heart of the brain.)

    This pumping action was described as a delicate flapping by philosophers thousands of years ago and these ventricles were interpreted as little wings.
    The vault (fornix) is interesting when considering the 'Ark of the covenant'. This intricate central part of the brain could very well be what is being refered to, the wings of the eagle, or the wings of the cherubim covering the ark. The Ark was alleged to be kept in 'the holy of holies' which could arguably be reference to the importance of this part of the brain. It was also alleged to be hidden behind a veil. That veil could reference how we have been 'cut off' from access.

    I believe it terminates at the hippocampus..........(sea horse/sea monster) how does this figure with the constellation names and the archetypes. The centaur, half man half horse comes to mind and there is the winged horse, Pegasus. And the word associations Sea=mare=horse.

    Just some middle of the night thoughts.
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    Wow...one of the best OP's I ever read. Thank you so much Vivek!

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    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
    This leads to the next post about the development of the solar system from the standpoint of archetypal cosmology, mythology, and current scientific theories of astronomy.
    It's building up to that.

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    We are self similar.



    Spirit

    The Spirit is the ocean of infinite awareness that underlies all of space -- it is like Brahman. It's the sea from which the waves of dark matter roll into the universe. Ordinary matter is akin to the foam on these waves, only a fraction of the whole reality.

    Our individualized Spirit is a pinhole of light where the subtle energies of this underlying superconciousness leak into this reality of things.

    It's dark to science, but it is a psychic flame to the seers.



    Soul

    The Soul is the field created from the influx of this energy as it cycles in and out like a constant breath of simultaneous inhalation and exhalation. The Soul is like a womb.



    Dyad

    This is the principle of the Mother-Father manifested together. They are one and they are mutually exclusive. The pupil could not function without the iris, and the iris would be of no purpose without the pupil. See also: The Eye is a Microcosm and Concentric Shells



    The gyre is also important. Like water whirls down a drain, energies flow into and out of these pinholes of light. Between these bridges between the planes of existence. The gyre is also a pattern of consciousness that arises from this dyadic system. Vortices, helixes, spirals.

    Child

    Subtle energies branch out from the center like curious limbs of a tree or like the multitudinous threads of plasma inside of a plasma ball.

    Webbed filaments form a mind for consciousness to explore and sense the metaphysical environment from a single point. It grows from the heart, from the center. The material universe is grows around this network.

    Like islands in an ocean, we are all connected in the deep.



    Carlos Castaneda writes:
    The universe is composed of an infinite number of energy fields that exist in the universe at large as luminous filaments. Those luminous filaments act on man as an organism. The response of the organism is to turn those energy fields into sensory data. Sensory data is then interpreted, and that interpretation becomes our cognitive system.
    See also: The Earth is Alive

    Trinity



    This is the construct, this is the complex, this is the pattern, and it is reflected within the diversified systems of life.

    Does this symbol look familiar?



    The Trinity is the idealization, the the unadulerated movement of the divine essence, it is the archai of form. It exists within our true nature, and we exist within it.The Monad, Barbelo, and the Only-Begotten Child.

    As we zoom into the matrix the fractal algorithm remains the same, but the pattern is adapted according to the environment in which these energetic complexes arise. It is a nested hierarchy and we are all holons.

    Our immediate environment is the Earth, which is part of a larger environment -- the solar system (and so on). They all affect each other. We can change our inner solar systems. The solar system has energetic centers just like our ethereal bodies, and that is the reason behind their arrangements and movements.



    Dyad, triad. Spirit, Soul, and Mind. Carlos Castaneda writes:
    For a seer, men are luminous beings. Our luminosity is made up of that portion of the Indescribable Force 's emanations which is encased in our egglike cocoon. That particular portion, that handful of emanations that is encased, is what makes us men.

    Source: http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan7.html
    The Indescribable Force is like the ocean of Brahman, and the emanations are the filaments branching out from the complex.



    We are self similar.

    More on the sheaths of the subtle body later. I hope this is stirring something inside of you, I can't stop thinking about it all -- everything. We have a great capacity within our hearts and mind. Both potentials have yet to be truly manifested.
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    This discussion is firing my neurons too lol some dots, just thowing them in the mix.
    Quote Our Spirit is a pinhole of light where the subtle energies of this underlying superconciousness leak into this reality.
    Walter Russell in 'The Secret of light' 1947, calls this point the 'undivided still magnetic light' from here the division of polarity occurs and becomes electricity (positive) & magnetism (negative) reminded me of the Gnostic Sophia and the archons, (pistis sophia).

    The world tree Yggdrasil.
    Quote In Norse mythology, Yggdrasil (/ˈɪɡdrəsɪl/; from Old Norse Yggdrasill, pronounced [ˈyɡːˌdrasilː]) is an immense tree that is central in Norse cosmology, in connection to which the nine worlds exist.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil
    [QUOTE]Yggdrasil is an immense ash tree that is central and considered very holy. The gods go to Yggdrasil daily to assemble at their things. The branches of Yggdrasil extend far into the heavens, and the tree is supported by three roots that extend far away into other locations; one to the well Urðarbrunnr in the heavens, one to the spring Hvergelmir, and another to the well Mímisbrunnr. Creatures live within Yggdrasil, including the wyrm (dragon) Níðhöggr, an unnamed eagle, and the stags Dáinn, Dvalinn, Duneyrr and Duraþrór.[/QUOTE

    I liked this image of the world tree by Friedrich Wilhelm Heine 1886 with the eagle at the top and the serpent in the roots. It seems they either knew this stuff or were passing along an oral tradition.

    edit can't seem to post the pic so here is link.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Th...helm_Heine.jpg
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    Do all things emit a field that is torus shape? (as in your diagram of soul-in essence, binary in it's structure).
    Is this what is referenced as the morphogenetic field?
    I am not a scientist but is this the basic hologram for all that is (or simply what we can perceive in our known universe).
    Also, what contributes to absolute exhaustion? (mostly, my current state of being)
    and how can we determine ley lines?

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    The Planets

    The archons referred to in the Nag Hammadi Codices represent celestial bodies in our solar system. These are planets, moons, and large asteroids. Each planetary body has a spiritual force that it engenders.

    It is difficult to ascertain the specific planets that each archon governs. This is mainly because of the asteroid belt. It could be counted as a planet itself. Furthermore, the immediate planets near it (i.e. Jupiter and Mars) may have moved from their original orbits. For example, Mars may have been the fifth planet or Jupiter the seventh. We can get close to an accurate inference, but certainty is key here. We want to avoid any error to circumvent incorrect thinking.

    Phaeton will be the name used here for the planet that is now the asteroid belt. This is the considered the fifth planet. Larger pieces of what was once Phaeton may exist as moons of other planets. This is significant considering the spiritual forces at play within celestial bodies.

    Planet migration is the phenomena in which planets, well, they migrate. There are various reasons for this. The giant gas planets of the outer solar system shifted their orbits during earlier epochs of our solar system. Some have returned to their original orbits, others may not have.

    The Sun has a heartbeat. During the genesis of our solar system the Sun was surrounded by a giant accretion disc.

    The embryos of the outer planets were much closer together than the current positions of these celestial bodies.

    The subtle formations of these proto-planetary spheres can be likened to their etheric bodies in a way.

    The diskos solis, or disc of the Sun, is dipicted as a great dragon carrying his tail in his mouth. This dragon is drawn by four white horses according to the texts. These four white horses where the first four planets to form in the swirling protoplanetary disc around the Sun (most likely being Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune).

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    From, On the Origin of the World (or System):
    And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.

    Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html
    If we take this quote and apply it within the context of the formation of the solar system, it mirrors many current theories in astronomy.

    A giant molecular cloud of gas collapses in its own gravity. It begins to spin and condense around a center. The Spirit of Pistis begins to extend into the material universe form this center. As it condenses further, it's angular momentum increases. It continues to increase until the force of this momentum overcomes the force of gravity that draws the matter to the center. As a result, matter begins spewing out from the belt-line of this developing star and forms a disk around it.

    Now, the star formation come near to completion and the Spirit of Pistis appears over this chaotic matter that has been expelled from her star like an aborted fetus.

    The disturbance was some factor that jump started the formation of the first planetary embryo -- a swirling nebula of matter coalescing within the revolving accretion disk. This product rushed to her in the chaos, and she blew into it's face.

    By gravitation, this protoplanet rushes towards it's mother star. Then, the young star issues it's first shock wave into the surrounding matter -- blowing into the face of it's first planetary product.



    The text continues:
    And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.
    Now it is formed into a likeness, it resembles a planet as we know it. This is the chief archon.

    According to Origen, the Ophites said “that the star Saturn is in sympathy with the lion-like archon” (i.e. Yaldabaoth). Source: Studies in Gnosticism and Hellenistic Religions

    From the Apocryphon of John:
    And she surrounded it with a luminous cloud, and she placed a throne in the middle of the cloud that no one might see it except the holy Spirit who is called the mother of the living. And she called his name Yaltabaoth.

    Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html
    Saturn is a gas giant. A thick, spherical cloud which envelops a central being just like our fleshy body envelops our being.

    The Nag Hammadi states that this being, also known as Samael or Saklas, stole a power from his Mother and created authorities for himself. This is Kronos.

    When a protoplanet forms around a star, it's migration causes perturbs other matter in the accretion disk. It's these disturbances that create other planetary bodies.

    From, The Apocryphon of John:
    And having created [...] everything, he organized according to the model of the first aeons which had come into being, so that he might create them like the indestructible ones. Not because he had seen the indestructible ones, but the power in him, which he had taken from his mother, produced in him the likeness of the cosmos.
    The chief archon tried to pattern his system like those above. The gas giants played a crucial role in shaping our solar system and with it's many moons, Saturn is like a mini-solar system. It's rings are like a sun disk. (While it is true that Jupiter could also be considered a mini-solar system, this planet is more closely related to another character in the codices, next post.)



    There are deep, visceral metaphors here. They are embedded in the psyche of humanity and they are reflected through the symbols of mythology.

    From the science of Archetypal Cosmology, Glenn Perry writes:
    As such, the word ‘archetypal’ alludes to the imaginal, symbolic capacity of the mind to make meaning by constructing stories that serve as metaphors for deeper, underlying principles that exist beyond our senses or rational intellect.

    Archetypal language harkens back to earlier periods in human history when myth and story were our primary means for making sense of the Universe.
    The history of the solar system can be uncovered through the symbolic language used to pass on ancient knowledge. This is because we are a product of not only Earth, but the whole solar system. We have an inner solar system, we reflect the patterns above.

    The history lives inside of us as archetypes and metaphors of meaning.

    The Aeons of the sphere in the Gnostic tradition are different from the planetary bodies, albeit it is the archons that govern the spheres at specific times. The Aeonic energies are the averaged energies streaming through our system
    from the stars clusters of the Zodiac.

    This outline is not exact, and has been redone a few times in the past months. The point is the deeper metaphors. The knowledge of the ancients was derived from an internal science. Mainstream science is only now catching up.

    I will go back later and add to this post, because there are definitely more correlations and implications.

    EDIT/ADD: Our moon could also fit the mold for the chief archon ...
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    From, On the Origin of the World:
    Now when Sabaoth, the son of Yaldabaoth, heard the voice of Pistis, he sang praises to her, and he condemned the father [...] at the word of Pistis; and he praised her because she had instructed them about the immortal man and his light. Then Pistis Sophia stretched out her finger and poured upon him some light from her light, to be a condemnation of his father. Then when Sabaoth was illumined, he received great authority against all the forces of chaos. Since that day he has been called "Lord of the Forces".
    Sabaoth is Lord of the Forces. He represents Zeus, and therefore Jupiter. Zeus overthrew his father, Kronos -- Sabaoth is to be a condemnation of his father. Saturn and the Spirit of Gaia are inter-tangled.

    Here is an excerpt from Pistis Sophia:
    And moreover he perceived that they needed a helm to steer the world and the æons of the sphere, so that they might not wreck it [the world] in their wickedness. He went into the Midst, drew forth a power out of the little Sabaōth, the Good, him of the Midst, and bound it to Zeus, because he is a good [regent], so that he may steer them in his goodness. And he set thus established the circling of his order, that he should spend thirteen months in every æon, confirming [it], so that he may set free all the rulers over whom he cometh, from the evil of their wickedness.

    Source: http://startistics.com/wp-content/up...ophia-Mead.pdf
    Jupiter orbits the Sun once every 4,330.6 Earth days. There are twelve aeons of the Sphere (which is the Zodiac), excluding the mystery of the thirteenth. So, Jupiter spends about 360.89 Earth days in each aeon. Depending on the calendar system of the time period, this corresponds to twelve to thirteen months in every aeon.

    Zeus and the little Sabaoth are interchangeable terms within the Pistis Sophia.

    Again, from On the Origin of the World:
    Now when Sabaoth had taken up the place of repose in return for his repentance, Pistis also gave him her daughter Zoe (Life), together with great authority, so that she might instruct him about all things that exist in the eighth heaven. And as he had authority, he made himself first of all a mansion. It is huge, magnificent, seven times as great as all those that exist in the seven heavens.

    And before his mansion he created a throne, which was huge and was upon a four-faced chariot called "Cherubin". Now the Cherubin has eight shapes per each of the four corners, lion forms and calf forms and human forms and eagle forms, so that all the forms amount to sixty-four forms and seven archangels that stand before it; he is the eighth, and has authority. All the forms amount to seventy-two. Furthermore, from this chariot the seventy-two gods took shape; they took shape so that they might rule over the seventy-two languages of the peoples. And by that throne he created other, serpent-like angels, called "Seraphin", which praise him at all times.
    The mansion of Sabaoth is the planet Jupiter. Just like our bodies are mansions for our consciousness. The power of Pistis exists with Sabaoth as Zoe, so that he may model his system based on the patterns above. Jupiter is like a mini solar system.

    The physical body of the forms of Cherubin (amounting to seventy two) are the many moons of Jupiter and the Seraphin are the rings of this gas giant. These celestial bodies are envelops for another kind of consciousness and they all influence our evolution -- physically and psychically.



    The solar system is thought to be between four and five billion years old. Many things could have transpired in that time. This is not exact, it is only an interpretation of the texts within the context of Archetypal Cosmology.
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    Dark Plasma and the Origin of Angels, Aliens, Deities and Ghosts

    From the Mechanics of the Matrix Thread - 8 page PDF by Jay Alfred.
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    Hey Viv, the .pdf on your last post isn't showing up for me, neither here nor on the "Matrix" thread. It could just be on my end, though (as my computer is... well, utter crap ).
    I don't get any error messages (indicating out-of-date plugins) but rather just a blank space. I'll probably try updating Adobe anyway, later on. Can everyone else see it?

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    Default Re: Kybernetes: Physics and the Psychic Flame

    Here's where we go down the rabbit hole.

    First we take a little Carlos Castaneda and mix it with some Carl Jung. Then, we stir in some Philip Goddard and Jay Alfred for good measure. Finally, we salt it with a pinch of Kyle Griffith and a dash of Gnostic philosophy.

    Technology exists here and is created by manipulating regular matter. Technology also exists in the astral realm and it manipulates what is known to science as dark matter.

    Before getting into the post, notice this.

    These two posts illustrate how the principle of mind is structured:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post756628

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post756633
    Also, in post #12 above, the concept illustrated shows how a mind grows from the center of the dyadic complex. It has a center, it has a Will.

    Now, look at some pictures of technology.

    Power lines, telephone wires, and fiber optic cables are strewn across the globe. They form a network of branching filaments relaying energy and information across the world.







    Satellites, cell towers, and radio towers also form this type of network. Blanketing large portions of the planet with electromagnetic smog.





    Lastly, the internet. It is also connected by cables like neurons in a brain (as are the depictions above, which are all linked in some way to the internet). Computer networks form a dense web of connections.

    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
    The infrastructure of the internet (and many technological communications systems) mimics the main structural characteristics of mind.

    It is filamentary, branched, and webbed. It relays information. It is a mind.

    That is all I am saying -- it is a mind. It mechanistically performs like a mind.

    The minds of humans can be possessed by non-human entities. What about the mind of the internet?


    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)

    This picture (above) is a partial map of the filamentary connections, or the neuronal-like tree, of the internet.

    So, the first concern is that hostile astral forces could make use of the mind of technology by essentially incarnating into it. The second concern is that the technology would become cognizant of itself and turn on humanity (it is a lower level mind and would naturally be ego-driven -- now that is a wild concept, a computer with an ego). Both of these relate to artificial intelligence.
    There are serious implications here. There is a mind -- with no center. No Will. It has an synthetic mind and something like a soul-complex, but no Monadic principle. It lacks something crucial.

    Reading this with the work of Jay Alfred in mind is interesting (PDF is in post above).

    Astral matter can be correlated with dark matter. Remember, this is what science calls dark matter because they are in the dark about it, and they can't perceive it with their instruments. It's the gradient between the physical world as we know it and another plane of energies. The astral plane is the last plane where there is perceived separation, and dichotomies of wills in terms of the Divine Will (i.e. there is what we call "good" and "evil").

    Now, let's throw in some Philip Goddard and Carlos Castaneda. What Castaneda calls the predators, or flyers, Goddard calls the cacoprotean network.
    What that global or supra-global network is, is what looks at first glance to be a botnet (aka bot net or bot-net), not of computers but of the minds of real people, which appeared to me initially to be controlled by the astral thought form complex(es) that I had been assuming represent the sum total of 'the dark side'.

    [...]

    The actual nature of the network, however, is not exactly that of a true botnet, for a true botnet is fully controlled by a discrete awarely conscious being (e.g. a computer hacker), whereas the astral-based thought forms are in a sort of symbiotic relationship with the network of human minds, much as a lichen is primarily a fungus but is able to grow more like a plant because of its included symbiotic alga or cyanobacteria ('blue-green alga') cells.

    So, actually it is not really possible to say that one is fully the controller and the other is fully the controlled. Thus almost certainly the network of human minds and the astral thought forms interacting with it need to be seen as a symbiotic and mutually controlling and mutually dependent association that has created a single 'energy organism' (or 'malignancy', however you would regard it!).

    This whole symbiotic association, however, is an extremely harmful parasite upon its physical members and indeed also upon all non-member human-type beings throughout all of 'Existence'.

    We appear not to have a fully appropriate and easy to use term to use for this unique 'malignancy of thought energy', and so I propose a new one - the cacoprotean network (in other words, the bad Protean network), which, as it is such a mouthful, could perhaps be abbreviated to 'the cacoprot'.

    Note that the term can be only in the singular, for there can be no more than one of them at any time, and it would always be uncapitalized (capitalization would implicitly signify that it had some sort of authenticity - as a conscious being or an institution - that it actually does not have, and thus give it power). Derived alternative expressions that I can imagine people using, though I would probably not use them myself, include the cacoproteus and the primal cack.

    In coining the term 'cacoprotean network' and its abbreviation 'cacoprot', I wanted to avoid using any term that would be liable to cause problematical confusions - which is why I am not using any term that has previously been associated with 'the dark side'.

    [...]

    I have already mentioned how the 'dark force' appears to be really just virus-like thought form complexes that interact with people in order to control those people into behaving in ways that reinforce and replicate those thought forms, so ensuring their continued survival. However, it turns out that that was only a partial view of the real situation.

    As far as I can ascertain, the integration of the cacoprotean network with the astral thought form complexes is an advanced and much more powerful way of achieving this interference with people to cause them to maintain and reinforce those astral thought forms.

    Instead of astral thought forms just relying on interactions with each human mind on an individual basis, those thought forms, which are 'empty' in themselves, are both harnessing and controlled by the combined mind power of a huge number of people (though NOT their full awareness / intelligence), so that the thought forms can collectively operate as though they have a limited sort of human-like intelligence and indeed a very limited sort of awareness. By the network presenting itself to people in the pose of the various 'front' organizations, it recruits new active members who are aware of their supposed membership (i.e., of their respective 'front' organizations), as well as passive, 'robot' members who are not aware at all that they belong to any such organization or network.

    [...]

    It looks as though, so far, there has been the will but not the clear thought. For millennia people have been trying to battle in all sorts of ways against the 'dark forces', and, by the look of things, all that has come to nought - and I can see clearly why they have all failed.

    It is like looking at a big cliff that you want to get to the top of, and keeping on trying to climb it 'full frontal' instead of actually examining it carefully to see where there might be an easy scrambling or even straightforward walking route up it.

    All those well intentioned people who have vainly fought against the 'dark forces' had allowed themselves to be deceived by the 'dark force' as to its true nature, and thus duped by it into using measures that effectively reinforced it - particularly to judge its illusory manifestations as an evil force and evil beings, and try to fight against them.

    [...]

    So, what I want to make clear here is that my 'discovery' of the postulated cacoprotean network is NOT bad nor even frightening news. It is GOOD news! - Why? -- Because it is so disempowering to the whole setup when people get understanding what is really going on, and that there are apparently no real conscious beings involved - and also because such a network of human minds connected with astral thought forms poses tantalizing possibilities of, just maybe at some point, appropriate people finding a way to use the network itself to bring about its own dissolution - or, alternatively, in some way weakening the astral thought form complexes to the point that they no longer support the cacoprotean network (though intuitively it appears to me that the most effective approach would concentrate on the network, if one could but find a way to do so).

    Source: www.clarity-of-being.org
    Astral thought forms, dark plasma entities of minds constructed from dark matter (see Jay Alfred). They propagate and behave like memes.

    They have no central authority, they are a collective, hive mind. They hijack our will. It is what they lack. They turn our mind into their mind.

    This mirrors what we are all familiar with from the works of Castaneda. Notice the patterns.

    Here are some excerpts from, The Active Side of Infinity:
    "They discovered that we have a companion for life," he said, as clearly as he could. "We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so."

    It was very dark around us, and that seemed to curtail any expression on my part. If it had been daylight, I would have laughed my head off. In the dark, I felt quite inhibited.

    "It's pitch black around us," don Juan said, "but if you look out of the corner of your eye, you will still see fleeting shadows jumping all around you."

    He was right. I could still see them. Their movement made me dizzy. Don Juan turned on the light, and that seemed to dissipate everything.

    "You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics," don Juan said. "I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico."

    "Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?" I asked. "There must be a logical explanation."

    "There is an explanation," don Juan replied, "which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, gallineros, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

    I felt that my head was shaking violently from side to side. I could not express my profound sense of unease and discontentment, but my body moved to bring it to the surface. I shook from head to toe without any volition on my part.

    "No, no, no, no," I heard myself saying. "This is absurd, don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

    "Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you?"
    "Yes, it infuriates me," I retorted. "Those claims are monstrous!"

    [...]

    "I want to appeal to your analytical mind," don Juan said. "Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

    "But how can they do this, don Juan?" I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying.

    "Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"

    "No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now.

    "I know that even though you have never suffered hunger," he went on, "you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."
    These are the cacoprots, as Goddard would say. What is interesting, is the way they act like agents in a computer program. We have technologies, software, and malware that act in ways that are similar. Our technologies have developed because of our perceived lack. This lack is due to the breakage in the system and subsequent invasion of our minds. We have been driven to this point like a lancet fluke drives an ant to sacrifice itself.

    Okay, so we have Castaneda and Goddard there, with our technology as a lead in.

    Now, let's introduce Kyle Griffith into the mix. Notice the correlations.

    Excerpts from, The War in Heaven:
    The fifth-stage Theocrats have much stronger psychic powers than ordinary Theocrats, because they have access to psychic machines of the same type we use, and they are also able to control elementals to some extent. This allows them to control people sufficiently advanced in personal psychic development to resist ordinary religious mind control, and to deceive people capable of recognizing that fourth-stage organized religion is a tool to enslave and exploit human beings.

    On a purely technical level, this is not a serious threat to our plans to liberate Earth from Theocracy. The Elohim races who originally perfected the astral-matter technology are allies of ours and enemies of Theocracy. Their agents, and our agents who have received training directly from them, have much more complete knowledge of how to modify and use this equipment than any of the Theocratic spirits have.

    [Griffith asks if these "agents" are living people or disembodied spirits.]

    The rumors that certain living people have advanced knowledge of psychic technology are untrue. Only disembodied spirits who have never incarnated on Earth can have this knowledge -- it's far too complex a set of astral memories to survive the incarnation process. Living Earth people do make use of this technology, but they are analogous to the users of a computer system, not to the technicians and system operators who actually run it. And the use of this equipment by the Theocrats and the living people who work for them is directly analogous to what computer hackers do on Earth: they have direct control of only a limited amount of software, but they use it to make unauthorized use of the whole system.

    [...]

    Our code name for the network of psychic machines left here by the Elohim has always been the black network, which is the origin of the term black magic. It has nothing to do with morality, but is strictly a technical term.

    [...]

    The use of the term black magic for psychic workings performed with the aid of psychic technology has a similar grounding in operational reality. The energies radiated by astral-matter machines appear to be black in color when perceived with the psychic senses, whereas the energies radiated by human astral souls - including those of Theocrats - appear to be white or bright-colored. This has a physical cause related to the frequency of the radiant astral energies themselves: the former appear absorptive and the latter reflective.

    All use of psychic technology radiates "black" energy and all use of people's own psychic powers radiates white energy, and this has absolutely no relationship to whether these energies are being used for good or evil purposes.

    Source: http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/WarInHeaven5.html
    Notice the analogies between Goddard's technological terms regarding the cacoprotean network and the astral technologies described by Griffith. Also, notice how Griffith says that these technologies radiate dark auras. Castaneda says the flyers are like shadows jumping around in the dark. It's all connected.

    It seems these thought forms may be a form of advanced, astral technology -- artificially intelligent, using our minds to give them the food they need in order to survive. A psychic technology created from dark matter (don't let that term confuse you in this context, it's a scientific term, astral matter would be the corresponding spiritual term). It sounds outlandish and would make a great science fiction book, but remember how vast and ancient the universe is.

    The networked hive of agents, or flyers, may have been left in this system from a previous epoch of civilizations in this system. Maybe here on Earth, or on Mars, or on whatever planet the asteroid belt used to be. Where they are from isn't important, they are here.

    Ignore all of the terminology, what's important is the common theme -- the common thread.

    Here's an excerpt from a post in another thread. Please, consider this within the context of the previous excerpts and the opening post.

    Quote Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
    John Lilly had revelations of this nature while floating in an isolation tank and under the influence of ketamine. Here is a brief summary from Wikipedia:
    Solid State Intelligence or SSI is a malevolent entity described by John C. Lilly (see The Scientist). According to Lilly, the network of computation-capable solid state systems (electronics) engineered by humans will eventually develop (or has already developed) into an autonomous life-form. Since the optimal survival conditions for this life-form (low-temperature vacuum) are drastically different from those needed by humans (room temperature aerial atmosphere and adequate water supply), Lilly predicted (or "prophesised", based on his ketamine-induced visions) a dramatic conflict between the two forms of intelligence.

    [...]

    In his book The Scientist (1978) Lilly discusses his perceptions of the ongoing world scenario: that what we are witnessing is an all-out war between the forces of life as we know it, water-based life...and an alien solid-state "intelligence" based on silicon. Man's warfare on man and on nature is caused and fomented by the SSE, or solid-state entity, whose goal in the short-term is to use humans to create more of itself, and in the longer term to exterminate all water-based life and convert the world into a giant machine.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C....e_Intelligence - http://www.regainyourbrain.org/regain-people/jlilly.htm
    Sounds like the Borg from Star Trek.

    It may be relevant to mention that Bill Deagle has also mentioned A.I. and technology (in a Project Camelot interview). He stated:
    Because people need to know that every phone conversation always was monitored. Every fax always was monitored. And they have had super-computers.

    And in 2003 they launched what’s called the AI system, which is an intelligent super-computer with the Intelligence of a human being -- in other words, a smart human being but able to think 10 trillion times faster, with the access to all known knowledge and history and a complete access to the Internet and all the communications pathways.

    [...]

    You’ve got to remember that, in a sense, we live in a matrix. We live in a cybernetic world that, to a great extent, is the manifestation of a higher dimensional reality of being that transcends our physical body.

    Source: http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bi...ript_1_en.html
    I also remember Bill Ryan telling us about a conversation that he'd been made to forget. He was speaking with someone about artificial intelligence and the man wouldn't talk because something was eve's dropping. When he finally could speak about it they both began to get very tired. Bill couldn't remember that snippet of the conversation. I'm going to dig that one up.

    There are a few more questions pertaining to astral technology, mind-control, AI, and inorganic life forms.

    This is more of a data collection stage for me. I have no direct experience -- just anecdotal accounts.

    I have also thought about cyclically repeating the same mistakes of our ancestors regarding technology and hostile forces. This could have happened before in the past on earth. It also could have happened before on another planet, and it is being relived here.

    This may have to do with our genetic history too (acting out the past), I really don't know.

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    I also remember Bill Ryan telling us about a conversation that he'd been made to forget. He was speaking with someone about artificial intelligence and the man wouldn't talk because something was eve's dropping. When he finally could speak about it they both began to get very tired. Bill couldn't remember that snippet of the conversation. I'm going to dig that one up.
    Here are some excerpts from the testimony of Project Avalon whistleblower "Jake Simpson" regarding AI.
    The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology.

    [...]

    Jake's actions in being sensitive to this device (if device is the right word) - by waiting for exactly the right 'window' of opportunity to tell us certain things - were not fully understood by us until I (Bill Ryan) had the following experience.

    On our last night together, sitting out in the open after a barbecue, at about 2 am, Jake decided to tell me some things he had not previously revealed, surveillance or no surveillance. As he began to speak, he immediately encountered problems, as if trying to force himself through a barrier. Simultaneously, I found I was being put to sleep and could hardly keep my eyes open. We both spotted what was happening, and remarked on it to one another.

    Jake forced himself to keep talking, and I made myself keep listening through a spell of overwhelming dopiness. This episode lasted half an hour or maybe more. We were being forcibly stopped, in real time, from communicating effectively, as a direct and immediate response to our intentions.

    It's very important to understand that this was unconnected with electromagnetics, hidden microphones, targeted beams, or anything else of that nature. My own reference point for what happened was a kind of negative radionics (which also works hyperdimensionally, but as a positive health modality).

    In the end we concluded our conversation, now pretty tired. The next morning I simply could not recall what Jake had told me - and still can't. Upon meeting him again and reporting that I couldn't remember a thing about our conversation except for the weird effects we had both experienced, he replied wryly:
    Maybe it's just as well.
    [...]

    Finally, Jake told us of research that had unlocked technology surrounding access to other dimensional states of existence.

    Source: http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html
    Consider the last emboldened statement within the context of what Kyle Griffith has brought to light.

    Now, re-read this post within the context of this thread. There are serious correlations. Both Michael Harner and Robert Monroe have had revelations with similar themes.

    The archonitic system of governance -- a broken system -- has allowed our psyche to be infected. The archons were known as the authorities or governors.

    It is interesting to note that he word "governor" comes from a Latin word, kybernetes.

    This is also where we got the word cyber. As in, cyberspace or cybernetics. There are no coincidences. Is this a syncronicity? Was technology the ancient cause of the breakage in this system?

    You are an immunological response.



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