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    Araucuria, I would be really careful listening to anybody who refers to a majority or even large minority of human beings as 'backdrop people.' This minimizes and/or marginalizes them and feeds the ego of the listener, who is encouraged to identify with the speaker, one of the select. People who are negative and angry aren't necessarily soulless, organic portals. They're stressed out, fearful and living without hope. Trust me, I have been around them too. There's a cottage industry growing up around the idea that a huge percentage of the world's population are, for all intents and purposes, dispensable because they are soulless. It is a potentially very dangerous game to play or ideology to be involved with, imho. Your heart is no doubt in the right place, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

    Of course there are a tiny minority, who control the world, who should be locked up, after their crimes are exposed. Unfortunately the president would have to initiate this and he has the tools to do it. He could declare a national emergency and then national security laws, that can be applied by the executive branch, (much like what they would have done to Snowdon) could be used to incarcerate them while evidence was gathered. Unfortunately, the president, clearly a psychopath, doesn't want or care to do it. The executive branch, backed by the military, has tremendous power. More now than ever before.
    There is nothing dispensable about anyone, and I am not 'listening' to anyone as you put it, so please do not think I am playing hopscotch on the way to hell. But thanks for your solicitude.

    I do think however that there is a lot more to be done than simply locking up a few individuals.


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    Araucuria, I would be really careful listening to anybody who refers to a majority or even large minority of human beings as 'backdrop people.' This minimizes and/or marginalizes them and feeds the ego of the listener, who is encouraged to identify with the speaker, one of the select. People who are negative and angry aren't necessarily soulless, organic portals. They're stressed out, fearful and living without hope. Trust me, I have been around them too. There's a cottage industry growing up around the idea that a huge percentage of the world's population are, for all intents and purposes, dispensable because they are soulless. It is a potentially very dangerous game to play or ideology to be involved with, imho. Your heart is no doubt in the right place, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

    Of course there are a tiny minority, who control the world, who should be locked up, after their crimes are exposed. Unfortunately the president would have to initiate this and he has the tools to do it. He could declare a national emergency and then national security laws, that can be applied by the executive branch, (much like what they would have done to Snowdon) could be used to incarcerate them while evidence was gathered. Unfortunately, the president, clearly a psychopath, doesn't want or care to do it. The executive branch, backed by the military, has tremendous power. More now than ever before.
    There is nothing dispensable about anyone, and I am not 'listening' to anyone as you put it, so please do not think I am playing hopscotch on the way to hell. But thanks for your solicitude.

    I do think however that there is a lot more to be done than simply locking up a few individuals.
    You just posted a link to someone you listened to. You wrote that her opinions resonated with your own. So forgive me if I somehow misinterpreted somewhere.

    If you are frequenting the forum of a rather heavy woman who chain smokes to discourage abduction by aliens, best beware. I am not referring to the woman in the video but the one who has made a small fortune off of the 'organic portal' idea.

    Other than locking up the very few psychopaths who are in power, what would you do?

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    You just posted a link to someone you listened to. You wrote that her opinions resonated with your own. So forgive me if I somehow misinterpreted somewhere.

    If you are frequenting the forum of a rather heavy woman who chain smokes to discourage abduction by aliens, best beware. I am not referring to the woman in the video but the one who has made a small fortune off of the 'organic portal' idea.

    Other than locking up the very few psychopaths who are in power, what would you do?
    Check that thread and listen to Dolores Cannon. There was a question about 'Could we be other people's backdrop?'. The tentative answer was not no. The issue of soullessness came up: not soullessness, but souls in a different stage of evolution, which is an obvious possibility, a truism even. Take yourself today and twenty years ago. This is where you misinterpreted.

    Do I frequent the forum of Laura Knight-Jadcyk? No sir. But that person did publish a book by someone else called 'Political Ponerology' on psychopathic behaviours that I would recommend. Psychopaths are commonly seen as soulless, or if they have a soul, it is virtually impossible to reach.

    What would I do apart from locking people up? Or rather what do I do? I deal with that part of me that is involved with the evil in the world, because it is not just a few psychopaths out there, and when we get enough people cleaning out their own backyards, maybe the outside world willl have changed for the better. This is a fairly basic feature of what we are doing here on Avalon.


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    Other than locking up the very few psychopaths who are in power, what would you do?
    Prosecute them if they broke any laws....once released from jail they would by court order have to take their mind altering and cancer causing medications and never be allowed to own a gun..... get a real job (preferably minimum wage job)....they must sign up for Obamacare.....they must shop at regular stores like the rest of us and eat plenty of GMO foods and drink plenty of fluoride water, they must own a couch and a TV and spend at least 6 hours a day on that couch watching that TV.

    This would be what it would take for them to be a normal/average model citizen and fit right in with society....
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    Do I frequent the forum of Laura Knight-Jadcyk? No sir. But that person did publish a book by someone else called 'Political Ponerology' on psychopathic behaviours that I would recommend. Psychopaths are commonly seen as soulless, or if they have a soul, it is virtually impossible to reach.
    This book is by Andrew M. Lobaczewski. For those more science minded folks who haven't read it I highly recommend this book to get a better understanding of how psychopathology really works on an individual and at a much larger (National) level. For those of us who are not this way it is almost impossible to really wrap our mind around what we are really dealing with here. Regardless of who helped get it printed this is a very important book.
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    Araucaria, I wrote my responses quickly and wasn't aware they come across as border line insulting. I will pm you with explanation of my reaction. Sorry

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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    If people have no experienced psychopaths/sociopaths, I don't think it is understood how bad it can be. But Obama does not appear to be a psychopath, but he does fit the description of sociopath.

    These type people will lie until the end, I've experienced them. There is no dealing with them and they will only change enough to continue getting what they want. But are never to be trusted.

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    If people have no experienced psychopaths/sociopaths, I don't think it is understood how bad it can be. But Obama does not appear to be a psychopath, but he does fit the description of sociopath.

    These type people will lie until the end, I've experienced them. There is no dealing with them and they will only change enough to continue getting what they want. But are never to be trusted.

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    What do you see as the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?

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    'Political Ponerology' on psychopathic behaviours that I would recommend. Psychopaths are commonly seen as soulless, or if they have a soul, it is virtually impossible to reach.

    What would I do apart from locking people up? Or rather what do I do? I deal with that part of me that is involved with the evil in the world, because it is not just a few psychopaths out there, and when we get enough people cleaning out their own backyards, maybe the outside world willl have changed for the better. This is a fairly basic feature of what we are doing here on Avalon.
    Well that's wise. I think the best thing a woman can do is deny these guys breeding privileges. Mothers can teach their daughters what to look out for and if that doesn't work, as they are stealthy predators, mothers and fathers can at least be there for their daughters, (or sons) if they are crushed by marrying one of these things and need to relocate...before they have children!

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    What goes on, on a film set, is supposed to stay on a film set. Everyone on a film set knows that. What you see or hear on a film set is off bounds, not to be public, period. That is, if one wants to work again.


    As well, I tell things to people, in person, that I will not say on this forum.
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    One of Bill's questions was why Obama was picked and groomed rather than someone else. Mentally I keep coming back to things Basiago said about his early training. It has been a while since I read his material but here is what I remember.

    Supposably they had some device that allowed them to see into the future. Basiago remembers eating in a Albuquerque restaurant with his father and leaders of the program he was in. Bush and Bush Jr. had been seen as future Presidents and were glad handing at the various tables when they learned the news.

    Much earlier, Basiago's dad brought him a document from the future and wanted him to read and remember as much as possible because the document was a book that Basiago would write in the future which he has done.

    Apparently the program people were trying to enhance the future on this timeline. Perhaps that has something to do with the selection of Obama and his training.

    Basiago's veracity is questionable because his testimony is way out there about black ops programs. However, other people in early Camelot interviews have also spoken about devices that allowed people to see into the future. If such devices existed, perhaps this is part of Obama's selection and training.

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    I find Basiago suspect because he make outlandish claims about creatures and objects appearing in photos of Mars which to my eye, don't exist at all.
    And he just doesn't look like a key player to me at all.
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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    The president will sit in the chair. We have all the power required to pick who sits in that chair, so..

    One day, we might need to take him out of his chair. He might not want to get out of his chair. He may start yelling from his chair. Others might rally around him to protect him in his chair.

    So it's always best to build a trap door in the floor under the chair that can dispose of both the person in the chair, and those who rally around him. Or better yet, find someone willing to build their own trap door.

    A "trap door" for a president.. Is a closet full of skeletons.

    Acknowledge the skeletons and feed the spider who lives in the closet - just in case - we ever need to show the world what is hidden in there.

    If the skeletons alone don't repulse.. The spider will scare the pants off ya.

    Addition to further clarify point:

    The skills and behaviours required to sit comfortably in this chair can be programmed, conditioned, developed, nurtured and/or taught. The "trap door" cannot be created from thin air well enough. So in picking the man who sits in the chair the most important part is how deadly is his "trap door".
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    http://www.arkcode.com/whats_new_26.html

    This is interesting perhaps others can place more meaning here, 5 years old now.


    Just another thought that is rather obvious, within plain sight in mind.
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    I am sorry but we do not have Capitalism, maybe we need to change the name but the fact is the US has not had anything remotely resembling real Capitalism in generations. ..........
    You deserve a reply, which is in no way meant as an argument.

    First of all, let me tell you about myself. I'm 55, I've visited 29 different countries, and lived and worked in a good number of them. I've changed my opinion on virtually every matter under the sun many times in my life and, importantly, I've had my own country's myths exploded one by one over the years, to the point where I am now only ever an Englishman when watching a rugby match.

    Growing up in 70s, socialist Britain, in a single-parent family, believe me I hated socialism. I was a capitalist through and through. I also used to believe the same equation that you believe - capitalism=freedom, socialism=slavery. I visited Poland during the time that it was still under Soviet occupation, saw "communism" at work, and said "no thank you" as any thinking person would.

    I don't want to ramble on, simply to state that I am not now into any kind of -ism, it's all part of the political/economic charade which keeps us imprisoned. I don't know about anyone else, but the future Earth I envision is one where we live in harmony with each other, not with unicorns and fairies, but respecting each other's rights, cooperatinng with each other, living in balance, as much as we can. That is neither a communist nor socialist dream, nor is it a capitalist one. I'm not even sure I'd go along with being called a humanist, it's still an "-ism". I don't wish to live in a society where children die just because their parents have no money. I don't want to live in a society where people start their working life with a mountain of debt. Does that make me an evil commie ? No, it makes me normal.

    Let's not quibble about terms - OK, the USA is a corporatocracy, I'll go along with that. The problem with ALL political ideologies is that they founder on one thing - human nature. Man's propensity for self-serving greed can be seen virtually everywhere, in Soviet style communism, corporatism, whatever. I suppose it's all part and parcel of the scarcity paradigm, which can only be overcome when we are no longer in competition, economic and biological, with one another. Free energy is a key ingredient for our future.

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    the future Earth I envision is one where we live in harmony with each other, not with unicorns and fairies, but respecting each other's rights, cooperatinng with each other, living in balance, as much as we can.
    I see Capitalism as the only way of achieving this goal unless of course there is some strong consciousness change. Now to have Capitalism you need sound money and private property. We no longer have either in the US. It is possible that the world has seen the creation of a sound money though, so maybe there really was a turning point a few short months ago.

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    which can only be overcome when we are no longer in competition, economic and biological, with one another. Free energy is a key ingredient for our future.
    I don't see how even free energy will change what appears to be human nature, competition and survival.

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    Default Re: Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

    Hiya Autumn,

    Practically identical except a psychopath is physically violent with a bad temper and a sociopath tends to be even tempered and less/non-violent.

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    hmm ...

    Actor Harry Lennix Denies Claims He Trained Obama

    "Actor Harry Lennix reacted coyly to claims by Chicago radio host Eric 'Mancow' Muller that he trained Barack Obama to copy his mannerisms, denying the story as "hearsay," yet cryptically adding, "you'd have to ask him" ?


    Published on Nov 18, 2013


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    Hiya Autumn,

    Practically identical except a psychopath is physically violent with a bad temper and a sociopath tends to be even tempered and less/non-violent.

    Rich
    When my sister was doing psychology, she said that the difference was whether they were on the front page of the newspaper or in the business pages...

    1:10 of the population, 6 times over-represented in senior management/politics. Her assignment was to determine whether:
    a) these people want power;
    b) powerful people promote them, as they see themselves in them; or
    c) people finding themselves in power adapt these strategies to cope.

    ratio was 4:4:2 in that order

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    @samwise, dinosaur fossils are very relevant: they could well be backdrops. We have dinosaur fossils, but no dinosaurs. Were there any? We don't know.
    This is OT, but araucaria, you are exactly right - dinosaurs could not exist in Earth's current gravity, they could not support their own body weight!

    See: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cosmos-Colli...mm_kin_title_0

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