Chris Thomas

[onawah]

If you haven't heard of Simon Parkes, you might want to check out two threads here on Avalon.
He is an Avalon member and has been answering our questions directly.
There is soon to be an interview with him done by Avalonian Karelia, as well.
The 65 page (as of this date) thread for members only is at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...d-other-aliens.
The 4 page public thread is at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...----Interviews

He holds a public office in England and is a lifelong Contactee who is very open about his experiences, which is remarkable in itself.
His grandfather was a high-ranking military Illuminati, yet he is very modest and kind.
A very unique person!

I haven't read up on the Djinn yet (will soon), but I am having a hard time imagining how they might be one and the same as the Annunaki (or the Velon, as Chris Thomas calls them.)
The Annunaki, as far as I know, inhabit physical bodies, while the Djinn, if they are anything like the Djinn of the Arabian Nights and other tales, are not physical beings, though they can affect the physical plane.
The Djinn didn't seem to me like they are of the Earth, like the Sidhe and the devas are.
Though they all seem to be of a higher dimension than humans, and only materialize when they choose to, but the Djinn don't seem to have the same connection with the Earth, so my guess is that they are from elsewhere.

Oh, Lordy, so much catch-up reading to do!
Wish I was like Edgar Cayce and could just sleep with my head on a book, then know what was in it next morning.
Thanks to Delight for sending the pdf Zeland book.

[Herbert]

The Realm of the Faerie

by Chris Thomas

As we progress through our change of understanding – our increase in levels of consciousness – there is a growing recognition of the levels at which our Earth functions in relation to human existence. That is why many people are now beginning to re-awaken to the reality of the Faerie, which are a construct, a projection, of the Earth’s own consciousness.

According to my researches in the Akashic, there are fifty-nine ‘varieties’ of Faerie, which have been created by the Earth herself to look after all of the Earth’s plants, trees and other forms of life. Each form of Faerie has its own role to play and carries out its duties with immense joy and love.



As the Faerie are part of the Earth’s own consciousness, they cannot travel outside the Earth’s atmosphere. The same applies to other planets that have developed their own form of the Faerie; it is not possible for them to leave their home worlds and travel to Earth.



Beings such as Griffins and Unicorns are also part of the Faerie realms and therefore are also brought into being by the Earth. Griffins act as messengers between branches of the Faerie realms, or between the Faerie and humans.



If you’ve ever seen a real Unicorn you’ll know they are not fluffy little ponies with a bump on their foreheads! They are magnificent beings the size of a thoroughbred Arab horse, with a temperament to match, and their horns are at least one metre long. Unicorns can also act as messengers.



Dragons are a representation of the soul energy of the Earth herself, although this energy can take flight and become the dragons of legend.



Another representation of the Earth’s own energies is the Green Man. He represents an aspect of male energies to complement the female, mother, Earth. Unfortunately, both the dragon and Green Man images have become ‘demonised’ by popular belief, the Green Man having been turned into ‘the devil’ and the dragon into the serpent of the Garden of Eden. Sadly, these ideas have distorted our views of, and beliefs about, the Earth.



As we continue our climb back to full consciousness, many are beginning to realise that our only chance of completing our work is to turn back to Mother Earth and her nurture. Technology will never find lasting answers to the problems its use has created. All the answers we will ever need are to be found in the abundance the Earth has provided and within our own locked-away knowledge of how to use that abundance wisely.

This locked-away knowledge is often more evident to children than it is to adults. To talk of the Faerie, for instance, in adult terms, is at best considered taboo. But if you are a child, the subject is one of awe and recognition. As children we see the world through innocent eyes, eyes that have not been sullied by cynicism and paying bills. In other words, children see the world in which we live with a clarity of being that we adults, in an attempt to ‘grow up’, leave behind. How can you sell double glazing when you believe that you have Faeries ‘at the bottom of your garden’?



As adults, we exist in a world where realities become hidden and our beliefs, no matter how false, become realities.

The more we have moved down our route to materialism and extreme consumerism, the further away we have moved from the real reasons for human existence and the further we have removed ourselves from the natural rhythms of the planet that supports us. The Earth is all we have, and once we have depleted her resources, there will be no more and we will cease to exist on Earth.

The Earth exists to allow the possibilities of being human to be explored. In order to achieve that goal, our Mother Earth has created beings who can assist us in our aims. These include the Faerie. At the risk of being taken away by ‘men in white coats’, I think it is time for all those who know the Faerie realms exist to come to the fore.

We have scientists who ‘know’ how the Universe came into being. We have archaeologists who ‘know’ how life began and developed into human beings. We have doctors who ‘know’ how the body works.

As we ‘wake up’, we ‘know’ that these versions of reality are not exactly correct. We begin to open our minds to different realities – and the physical world of the scientists becomes less and less compatible with our inner knowledge.

I am not proposing a Faerie ‘revolution’, as the Faerie do not see our world in those terms. However, try to see the world in a new light. Try to regain your childhood innocence. We are not a part of the Faerie; the Faerie exist in their own right and it is not our place to interfere, only to interact, if we have the will and the innocence to do so.

So how do we recapture that innocence? It is not easy. Many have tried and most have given up in frustration. There is no easy answer. The mechanistic world that humans have created is totally opposed to that of the Faerie.

But, as we begin to understand the changes we are undertaking, we begin to see our connectedness to the whole. Each of us is part of a collective existence and, as we progressively download our higher selves into our physical selves, we begin to realise that the lives we have become accustomed to living exclude a vast portion of what is really there – including the Faerie realm in all its magic and wonder.

In so many respects the answer lies in our understanding of the female. Our Earth is female. It is the re-claiming of the feminine in ourselves, and in our lives and relationships, that can bring our current and future existence back into balance.

As a man, it is not an easy choice. Our Earth is female and in order to create balance we have needed a male response. However, the balance has tipped too far and the Faerie, as an aspect of Mother Earth, have become pushed to the extremities.



It is time to re gain balance. The Earth is as welcoming as she ever was. The Faerie are as prepared to put up with our prevarication as they ever were. Now is our time – human time. No other race or being has the right to choose what we become. We have reached a point in time where our conscious choice is needed.

And that choice should be: to dance with the Faerie, to stop our rape of the planet, and to finish what we originally set out to do, which is to bring our full soul consciousness into our human existence, here on Earth. And the Faerie (Mother Earth) will be happy to go on nurturing us as we continue on our paths to this destination, if only we let them.

We really are that strong, and the Faerie are there to remind us that our greatest strength lies in embracing our original innocence. By letting go of everything that covers it, we arrive at a point where no external force can deflect us from our goal.

Remember, the Earth has taken on the role of nurturing human life. We need to repay her hard work and become, once again, who we truly are.

". . . always look as deep as possible because the answers that lie underneath hold a truth that science will never comprehend." Chris Thomas

[FireHorse]

Greetings Onawah!

Posted by onawah (here)
If you haven't heard of Simon Parkes, you might want to check out two threads here on Avalon.
He is an Avalon member and has been answering our questions directly.
There is soon to be an interview with him done by Avalonian Karelia, as well.
The 65 page (as of this date) thread for members only is at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...d-other-aliens.
The 4 page public thread is at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...----Interviews

He holds a public office in England and is a lifelong Contactee who is very open about his experiences, which is remarkable in itself.
His grandfather was a high-ranking military Illuminati, yet he is very modest and kind.
A very unique person!

Hmmm...the Illuminati connection bothers me. I'll try to keep an open mind.

Posted by onawah (here)
I haven't read up on the Djinn yet (will soon), but I am having a hard time imagining how they might be one and the same as the Annunaki (or the Velon, as Chris Thomas calls them.)
The Annunaki, as far as I know, inhabit physical bodies, while the Djinn, if they are anything like the Djinn of the Arabian Nights and other tales, are not physical beings, though they can affect the physical plane.

The Annunaki have their own semi-physical, soul-integral bodies, yes, but, unless they (1) decide to alter their energy patterns to make themselves visible to us (non-naturally-psychic types, I assume) or (2) download their souls into a specifically constructed Me to build a human-visible body (tall, white Nordics not associated with the Gigantopithecus), they would be no more visible than a Djinn. I've never sat down and read any Arabian Nights tales but, it would seem to me that, if a Djinn can affect the physical plane (lower frequency density), then they would have to be physical in some manner and just out of our range of perception, much like any of the described semi-physical races.

Posted by onawah (here)
The Djinn didn't seem to me like they are of the Earth, like the Sidhe and the devas are.

Agree. What is a deva?

Posted by onawah (here)
Though they all seem to be of a higher dimension than humans, and only materialize when they choose to, but the Djinn don't seem to have the same connection with the Earth, so my guess is that they are from elsewhere.

Sounds a lot like a/any semi-physical race described by Chris. Of the seven, only the Velon have messed with our affairs, uninvited. I've heard the Djinn described as troublesome or mischievous. Sounds like Annunaki or Hathor (two of the six Velon races). The other six semi-physicals...Pleiadians, Sirius, Greys, Blues, NGC584s and the Crystallines...are fond/curious of us...or, at least, neutral.

Posted by onawah (here)
Oh, Lordy, so much catch-up reading to do!
Wish I was like Edgar Cayce and could just sleep with my head on a book, then know what was in it next morning.

I'm with you on all that.

~FireHorse

[FireHorse]

Posted by Herbert (here)
According to my researches in the Akashic, there are fifty-nine ‘varieties’ of Faerie, which have been created by the Earth herself to look after all of the Earth’s plants, trees and other forms of life. Each form of Faerie has its own role to play and carries out its duties with immense joy and love.

OH, I SO want to see one!

Posted by Herbert (here)
Dragons are a representation of the soul energy of the Earth herself, although this energy can take flight and become the dragons of legend.

OMG! LOVE the dragons!

Posted by Herbert (here)
This locked-away knowledge is often more evident to children than it is to adults. To talk of the Faerie, for instance, in adult terms, is at best considered taboo. But if you are a child, the subject is one of awe and recognition. As children we see the world through innocent eyes, eyes that have not been sullied by cynicism and paying bills. In other words, children see the world in which we live with a clarity of being that we adults, in an attempt to ‘grow up’, leave behind. How can you sell double glazing when you believe that you have Faeries ‘at the bottom of your garden’?

However, try to see the world in a new light. Try to regain your childhood innocence. We are not a part of the Faerie; the Faerie exist in their own right and it is not our place to interfere, only to interact, if we have the will and the innocence to do so.

So how do we recapture that innocence? It is not easy. Many have tried and most have given up in frustration. There is no easy answer. The mechanistic world that humans have created is totally opposed to that of the Faerie.

But, as we begin to understand the changes we are undertaking, we begin to see our connectedness to the whole. Each of us is part of a collective existence and, as we progressively download our higher selves into our physical selves, we begin to realise that the lives we have become accustomed to living exclude a vast portion of what is really there – including the Faerie realm in all its magic and wonder.

I'm ready to return to a child's view of life.

Thanks, Herbert.

~FireHorse

[onawah]

Devas are nature spirits that tend the plants kingdom.
At least, that's what they call them at Findhorn
See:
http://www.recreatingeden.com/index....=04&episode=53
I would love to see Fairies too.
I can sense energies, but I'm not that visual.
I read every fairy tale I could get my hands on when I was growing up.
I don't think there's anything more important than mankind learning to live in harmony with Nature, and recognizing the Earth as our Mother.
I used to feel we were going to have to just forgo all the technology to get to that point, but it seems other civilizations have learned to have both, and perhaps that is our destiny too.
If it weren't for the fact that apparently we have to go that way to protect ourselves from ET incursions, personally, I wouldn't mind going back to a more primitive kind of lifestyle.
It seems to be a question of finding the balance so Nature and technology can coexist.
But we have to get the whole planet on the same page somehow.

[turiya]

Chris Thomas wrote:

As adults, we exist in a world where realities become hidden and our beliefs, no matter how false, become realities.

We have scientists who ‘know’ how the Universe came into being. We have archaeologists who ‘know’ how life began and developed into human beings. We have doctors who ‘know’ how the body works.

As we ‘wake up’, we ‘know’ that these versions of reality are not exactly correct. We begin to open our minds to different realities – and the physical world of the scientists becomes less and less compatible with our inner knowledge.

So how do we recapture that innocence?

Chris Thomas

Innocence is not something to be achieved.
It is not something to be learned.
It is not something like a talent - painting, music, poetry, sculpture.
It is not like those things.

It is more like breathing, something you are born with.

Innocence is everybody’s nature.
It is intrinsic to one’s own nature.
Nobody is born other than innocent.

How can one be born other than innocent?
Birth means you entered the world as a tabula rasa, nothing is written on you. You have only future, no past. That is the meaning of innocence.

So, really, innocence is never lost.
But rather, it only gets covered over.
It gets covered over by the knowledge that is received from the world outside of one’s own being.
Innocence remains there within... Hidden, but still there.

So, innocence is never lost.
But YOU get lost... by the taking in & accepting outside knowledge as truth.

By becoming convinced it is real, by believing it is true knowledge.
One becomes lost.
Because this outside knowledge gives one the sense of knowing - a false sense of knowing... one feels to have become knowledgeable.

And with that false knowing, the ‘awe’ & the ‘wonder’ that one comes into the world with becomes less & less accessible. Hence, innocence becomes buried under a mountain of information… covered over by layers upon layers of learned & borrowed knowledge.

One becomes identified with that knowledge. Becomes afraid to let go of it.
One becomes so much identified with that which one has been taken in over a lifetime of living in the outside world – name, numbers, facts… bank accounts, professions, possessions, car, house – all is accumulated, stored within body/mind.

How do we recapture that innocence?

Easy to say, but harder to do...
Drop all that knowledge, that which is borrowed from others, taken from books, learned in schools, universities, from teachers, from parents, from wherever…
If you drop all that has been given by others, you will have a totally different quality to your
being – that quality is innocence.

Surely, some will say it is not possible. To live in the outside world would be near impossible, one has to survive...

Yes, the knowledge attained from the outside world, certainly will help one succeed in the outside world. But all the success of the world means nothing compared to the failure that finally you are going to face, because ultimately only your inner self remains with you.

Drop knowledge & all is lost - your glory, your power, your name, your fame – all start disappearing like shadows. At the end, only that remains which you had brought in the very beginning.

You can take from this world only that which you have brought into it - innocence.


turiya

[FireHorse]

I like the way you think, Turiya.

~Firehorse

[onawah]

It would be interesting to do some cross referencing between this thread and Observer's thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...773#post763773

[observer]

Posted by onawah (here)
It would be interesting to do some cross referencing between this thread and Observer's thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...773#post763773

Thank you onawah for the cross-link.

I must first of all explain, I have no prior knowledge of Chris Thomas' work. However, with just a cursory review of the first few pages of this thread, I see only interpretations of "channeled" information. I have also made note that most of the individuals whom I reference in the thread you linked are vilified as some sort of agent of one kind or another. These are the same individuals who are researching the "hard physical evidence" which I've consistently made reference to.

I stand firmly on the observations made in comment #14, #16, #19, and #22 of the thread you linked.

[turiya]

Posted by turiya (here)

Chris Thomas: The book, Project Human Extinction, explains where the Illuminati came from, all the various levels of the Illuminati, various organizations that call themselves Illuminati. All the history - because don’t forget - the Illuminati just means the "illuminated ones" - who have more knowledge than any others. So you will find religious groups often call themselves Illuminati because they believe they have the truth of what the world is all about. So they are more illuminated than other people.

The other side of it of course is that the one who brings illumination is Lucifer. That’s what Lucifer means is 'the one who brings illumination'. So you’ve got all of that stuff mixed up together as well. So there is a huge untold history which is convoluted and really is a different kind of organization to what the current Illuminati aims are and what they’re up to.

So ultimately, the Illuminati are also known as the Bavarian Illuminati which was set up by Ansel Rothschild and Adam Weishaupt back in 1776. Now Weishaupt, if I can use a term that I really hate using because I don’t like it, is a 'walk-in'. The thing that 'walked-in' to Weishaupt was a Velon. What it did was to take control of the Illuminati at its inception, and that’s how they gained control of it all because – how can I put this? – I also remote view. I can look at things from a remote distance which many find a problem. I don't find it a problem, it comes quite naturally to me.

I keep a very close eye on Velon activities just to find out what’s going on, and what really is happening in all of this, and a couple of years ago – I can’t remember the exact date off hand – The Illuminati and the Velon made a mistake which allowed to be released a lot of information that had previously been hidden in the Akashic. So I was able to pick up what had been going on and what was going on then.

RED ICE Interview - Frank O'Collins Answers the Question:
What is the Illuminati?

AUDIO EXCERPT

(click to listen)

Added Note:

Keep in mind that Chris Thomas has indicated through his research that "Lucifer" is the identity that Velus-1 has assumed for itself. Velus-1 is the Velon planetary consciousness that has concluded that the Velon are "God's chosen people" meant to live on "God's chosen planet" - and that planet is Earth.

Henrik: Frank, let me ask you this as well… I mean, I always think the French Revolution is a very interesting topic because so much goes back & hinges on that point. During that time, we have the creation of the Illuminati, kind of hand-in-hand with the Jacobins – the Jacobin Club, which is another one of these revolutionary, it’s a far left political movement at the time. And of course they’re against Church, they’re against monarchy & although some their arguments might be understandable, considering how corrupt, if you will, the monarchy was. I wanted to ask you how you think this works in the current political spectrum because certainly many people, when they think about the Illuminati, they don’t think about ‘Left Wing’. But certainly these revolutionary movements that are de-constructive & designed to destroy a system, they come in all shapes & forms, and they connect in with the Fabians. So much goes back to the Illuminati, of course, but where would you put it on the political spectrum, if even we can do that.

Frank: Well, its funny you should say, because we can actually use prophecy & the different groups that came together in claiming prophecy as a way of distinguishing. We really need to be clear on what the Illuminati is before we then make a distinction as to who is behind the insanity of the secularist movement.

Henrik: And that’s a good point, because there’s so many different interpretations. People also use the term ‘illuminati’ very, very loosely, or as a definition of basically everything that they are against, or has anything to do with conspiracy. And if you’re strict to the word, it usually means something very, very different than what most people, what they actually mean when they use the word. But go ahead…

Frank: So lets be absolutely ironclad clear who the Illuminati are, and then we can talk about who is behind the nihilistic madness of the world & and that refuse, flat-stick refuse, to bring themselves to account. So the Illuminati, as some may know, was formed, at least in name, by Adam Weishaupt, in Germany around the time of 1776, and one may argue there are remnants prior to that, and of course, a strong connection to the Jesuit model. The Jesuits, themselves, having been technically, or at least on paper, disbanded three years earlier. So there are all these connections to its origin.

So, let’s fast forward then, I don’t want to go through all that, because that’s something we can go through at another time. And its all well written on sites like One-Evil.org. But let’s fast forward to the last 50 years to what the Illuminati is today.

In 1961, there was an extraordinary event that took place, in the reconstitution of the Constitution & Rules of Order of the Sovereign Knights of Malta Order of Saint John. And what happened in 1961, for the first time in history, and really, this is Earth shattering when we talk about what the Illuminati is… In 1961, for the first time in history, you saw the amalgamation of a Catholic Order with the Protestant Order, so that the Protestant & Catholic elite for the first time came together under one structure. And the Jewish Lodgers that had a loose affiliation also came under this structure. So now, for the first time, we see Protestant, and variations of Protestantism with Catholic & Jewish elite for the first time together under one structure. And… Lodgers in the Middle East of elite Muslim families coming together.

So the first time in the this planet, first time, in 1961, a Constitution Rule of Order comes together where we see Catholic, Protestant, Jewish & Muslim Lodgers coming together as one.

Now, in that document – which is available, its publicly available, there are many, many places you can download it. You will see that the Sovereign Knights of Malta, which is the simplest way of describing the long-winded name, has three classes – a first, second class of membership & a third class of membership.

The third class of membership are those that are generals of military, esteemed politicians, leading artists, Noble Prize winners, heads of secret intelligence organizations, and other leading business & industrialists of society – that the third class of the Illuminati.

The second class is reserved purely for the heads of monarch families, queens, kings, emperors, sheiks – and they’re the second class.

And then, the first class, the class above all other classes, remembering this is a military & a religious order, so to be a member of the Illuminati, is to swear a sacred, and absolute solemn oath, both to a military & to a religious order – to become a religious. And could you imagine who the first class is? Its hidden in plain sight, in their Constitution.

Henrik: Tell us.

Frank: It is the Jesuits. Now, it doesn’t say the word ‘Jesuits’, it doesn’t need to. It simply describes an Order that is not required to be conventional, that is to live in habits and monasteries, that has sworn a sacred oath to poverty, obedience & chastity. And there is only one Order that fits that bill, and you know who they are. So, that is the first class of the Illuminati. And, in the second & third class combined, there are approximately 35-36 thousand members around the world. And they are the most famous people, the most famous artists, scientists, politicians, business leaders, military, religious.

Now, within that structure of the Illuminati (since 1961), there are two major operational roles. There is the
Grand Master, currently known as Mathew Festing, he is the Grand Master of the Order, and he is the public face. And there is a private-public role, as well, being the ‘Dame Hospitaller’. And this is in deference to that part of the Illuminati, that part of the Sovereign Knights of Malta, that combined with the Protestant arm, and the attendant Jewish & other arms. And the Dame Hospitaller? In the Protestant Movement, the Church of England… Who might you think that is?

Henrik: Queen of England… Elizabeth II, right?

Frank: Correct, absolutely. So, they’re the two public roles. But both roles report to the ultimate, ultimate head of the Illuminati in the world – the most powerful head of the Illuminati. It is a private-private role. And it is a purely spiritual role. And it is a purely guiding role. And given what we said about the misdirection on thinking that generals hold power, rather teachers. Would it not surprise you that the role is a teaching role. And it is the ‘Prelate’. When we talk about the Illuminati, who exactly are we talking about? And so, we spoke briefly about the Order being three classes of members. Third class being the vast majority of members – Prime Ministers, Ex-Prime Ministers, all the ex-Presidents of the United States are Sovereign Knights of Malta, President Obama is now, and will officially be recognized as a Sovereign Knight of Malta of the third class when he finishes.

The second class are your kings & queens & leaders at that level.
And the first class, as we said, are Jesuits. And that is the structure of the Sovereign Knights of Malta, & the elite, & the Illuminati today.

So, in terms of numbers, sheer numbers, around 36,000 in total in the second & third class, and there’s about 23,000, thereabouts, members in the Society of Jesus. We’re talking about 50-55 thousand, or so, members of the elite – the ‘true’ Illuminati, if you like, in the world. That’s all there is. And the leader, under the Constitution, is not the Grand Master, Mathew Festing, that we mentioned. And, is not the Dame Hospitaller. Both the Grand Master & the Dame Hospitaller confess to the Prelate. The Prelate is the head of the Illuminati, the Prelate is the most powerful member of the Illuminati in the world. That is the position.

As a teacher, as a guide, as a philosopher, as a theologian, to the elite. That is who is at the top of the tree.

Henrik: And who holds that title today?

Frank: Well, it’s a private title, it’s a private position, it’s given to the most senior & esteemed teachers of the Catholic Church. I presume it to be honorific, that is it’s a title & a role that once appointed is usually until they die, as opposed to the Rector of Gregoriana, which may turnover every 5 years, 6 years or 12 years. So there is someone who has, obviously, been at a senior level, like the Rector of Gregoriana Pontifica – the leading university in the world. Someone that is recognized as a leading theologian. And someone that has be obviously a Jesuit. And if they fit that qualification, then that’s the role. Now, that role is not only the spiritual head of the Illuminati, but may in fact may hold the Imprimata of the Catholic Church & the teaching power of the Catholic Church, the Magisterium, is personified usually in a great teacher. And that role, ultimately, has the authority to imprint, or deny, even the Pope in publishing material. So, there is indeed someone in that role. And they live pretty much in a fairly anonymous role in the world. The most powerful role in the world is virtually unknown. You could watch them going down the road, have a coffee, or be on a train or tram, and no one would know who they were.

Henrik: Well, that’s kind of how I always figured it to be. If we have the names of some of these people that we think are high up the ladder, I think we’re missing the point altogether. I think that we’re talking about organizations, well in this case we know the name, of course, if within these circles they are having secret meetings – not the Bilderberg meeting but things we don’t… we don’t even have the names of these things, that’s what I’m getting at, and we don’t have the names of the people, either.

Frank: Well, certainly to the elite of the world, to the Presidents & the ex-Presidents of the United States – and they are recognized as powerful people – the queen, and the royal families of the world, certainly hold sway. One could undoubtedly argue that those who are current heads of intelligence organizations & heads of the vast military network, surely have influence. And all these people – all of them report, ultimately, in the pyramid to the spiritual role, to this teaching role – the one that directs the past.

And the interesting thing is it was this role that recognized the importance of change, and this role with others that recognized the events that led to Benedict standing aside, being asked to stand aside, and agreeing to stand aside – an incredible role, an incredible change. And, the events that saw a Pope coming in for the first vicar of Christ since, virtually, 1100 CE.

Henrik: So, what was the reasoning behind this, do you think? Was it a PR move because all the sh*t that’s been happening to the Roman Catholic Church as of late?

Frank: Yes. Look, things don’t happen for one reason, so the answer is yes. But, then very, very much more than that.
Look, the people behind the…the most dangerous people on the planet, by the way, and I have to say this, and people may not believe it, I mean, its up to them, its up to people to choose… The most dangerous people on the planet are not the Illuminati.

The most dangerous people are people who openly celebrate madness, psycho-pathy, a lack of logic, a lack of reason. When people have a little bit of knowledge, a lot of power & are in an insular role, as are the nihilists & those in the nihilist movement who claim themselves to be inheritors of spiritual revelation, in the religious right in America, they are incredibly dangerous. And in fact an alliance was formed between the Hasidic leaders and the Sabbatine leadership & the Mormon Church, and the Religious Right – the Evangelicals, and that was & is still called the Zionist Plan.

Now, that has not & has nothing to do with labels. I am not going to use a label that is used all the time. It is an attitude. It is an attitude of people who have no foundation, other than desperately wanting to seize & maintain power. And who believe that they can continue to hoodwink the world by manufacturing what they claim to be messages from Lucifer.

Henrik: Well, I was going to actually ask you about that. I wanted to ask you about what you think about the theory that very high up in the hierarchy, maybe at the highest point, but maybe somewhere around there that there are, could be something that is basically not human. We can talk an entity from another place – Lucifer, a demon, or an alien, or a channeled entity – something like that. What do you think?

Frank: Well, I do believe that there is, in fact, a manifest spiritual entity, at the top of the tree, around these members that are loosely affiliated in the false nihilistic, quasi-Luciferean cabal that is formed from the leadership of the Hasidic Sabbatine, the Religious Right of American, and of course the Mormons, that have come together & believe that they can pretty much sprout, on a daily, weekly, monthly basis that they claim that God speaks to them, when really they are saying to other members of the elite, “I have message from Lucifer.”

And I do believe there is a spiritual influence that is participating in this. But we’re talking about people that have no genuine occult knowledge – no. It’s all false. It was manufactured – completely manufactured. It is nihilistic, in that they created it on the belief that they could herald their own greatness, their own brilliance. There is no real revelation or message. It is purely political. And, that message, when it is harnessed with real revelation, & even the Zohar from the fifteenth century has some real revelation, that harnessing has been the central driving force for nearly a century of these mad, mad, mad people, putting us in two World Wars, and desperate to put us into a third World War.

Henrik: Yeah, it’s unbelievable. And its funny too, how it seems that a lot of the orders from behind the scenes, and in some regards, even flat-out openly have been involving the sovereign military order of Malta, and the connection to some of the private mercenary armies, and such, that has been continuing what has been known as the Tenth Crusade, I think pretty much, you know, since the second invasion Iraq, and this is now basically spreading throughout the Middle East. And, I believe as well, Frank, that what we see with these ‘revolutions’, if you will, in Egypt, and ongoing in so many countries, Northern Africa & everything else. It’s just a continuation of that same war – that Tenth Crusade. But its very cleverly done, so its believed that its from a power that’s within the country, as opposed an invading force from without, but its still very much is an invading force. That’s what I see, anyway.

Frank: It is, but its also cleverly done in the guise that people believe it is the Illuminati, and that it is the Catholic Church, and its this traditional hierarchy, as opposed to a loose, sham group of nihilists that have members of that other order, but really are perpetrating a fraud – a great fraud – where there is nothing behind it. Look, do you remember George Bush saying God spoke to him?

Henrik: Sure, oh yeah.

Frank: Well that was a double message. What he was saying is to the public god, in our vision of god, in the divine creator, but what he was telegraphing to the rest of the world, and particularly to the old style, and, we are talking, then, about of the Illuminati, is that Lucifer… he was saying Lucifer speaks to him directly. That’s what he was telegraphing, okay. And that’s the calling card of the mental illness, and the absolute falsity of nihilists. They say, “I don’t believe it. There is nothing to it.” They believe they can con the world, and they have! They have absolutely conned the world. They’ve convinced the world that it’s an old European based influence that is driving the world, that its malevolent. Meanwhile, they’re all sitting in positions. They don’t have the education. They don’t have the inclination. They see power as a tool to play with & manipulate. They believe in absolutely nothing. And this is the most profound & dangerous force. And I believe, a line in the sand was drawn in 2012, or earlier, to say enough is enough. We’re not going to allow, what’s called the Zionist Plan, the Zionist Dream, to keep being the vehicle of this complete madness.

As I said, remember, I am not using labels. If I am going to use a label, I’ll call them for what they are – Khazar – loose affiliation of nihilistic groups, quasi-Christian groups, false history, Mithraic influences – but fundamentally sewn together with a central common theme of being nihilist. That’s who we’re talking about.

Henrik: Very, very interesting. Now, we’re going to take a break and continue to talk more about this. Try to get deeper into much of this, and to be able to decipher what is going on in the world, who are intending to take us there. And, of course what we can do to break out of that, of course.

turiya

[turiya]

Posted by observer (here)
I must first of all explain, I have no prior knowledge of Chris Thomas' work. However, with just a cursory review of the first few pages of this thread, I see only interpretations of "channeled" information. I have also made note that most of the individuals whom I reference in the thread you linked are vilified as some sort of agent of one kind or another. These are the same individuals who are researching the "hard physical evidence" which I've consistently made reference to.

I stand firmly on the observations made in comment #14, #16, #19, and #22 of the thread you linked.

A "cursory view" leaves a lot to be desired, and a lot more that will be missed.

#14 - Observer writes: "one will discover the records that Sitchin was interpreting have been scrutinized by scholars the world over and their conclusions are very much in sync with Zecharia's translations"

This above statement represents an example of a flowered cream-puff stylized-way of embellishing bias. For one can also find "scholars the world over" that have "scrutinized & concluded" that Zecharia's "translations" as being a purely concocted fantasy.

For example: I give you Project Avalon's own Bill Ryan as a "scholar" who has traveled "the world over". With respect - although Bill, no doubt, is supportive of the Sitchin material, I would ask to please note that Bill has placed the word 'translated' in similar type quotations – leaving an obvious question as to whether Zecharia Sitchin had actually ‘translated’ the material. Also, to note: "conventional archeologists" (as is written) can also be likened to “scholars around the world”.

Bill Ryan wrote (here):

"According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true." (Emphasis mine.)

Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011

From the above quoted posted message, it is obvious that this leaves plenty of doubt as to whether Zecharia Sitchin had actually ‘translated’ the Sumerian Tablets, but points to a rather surprising alternative in that he was actually being fed this material through “channeled” means. This blows away the very foundation & any of what you have called “hard physical evidence” that were to follow - as if it were simply “dust in the wind”, imo.

#16: Observer wrote: "these Reptoid Anunnaki..."
You speak of “hard physical evidence”… Can you show your evidence of Annunaki as being Reptoid? Can you show any “hard physical evidence” of there being any Annunaki, period? I submit any so-called "hard physical evidence" is theoretical... which is not evidence at all. And, only viewed as wishful thinking.

Chris Thomas states that the Akashic records that the only Reptilians that existed in this Universe were of the Fourteenth Faction (from another universe), and as of 2003 are no longer present - they have been effectively ejected (as in being "red carded") back to their own universe.

#19: I find your definition of telepathy-planted thoughts fails to list the following:
- college acquired education
- university education leading to degrees-diplomas-doctorates-Phd’s,
- any & all public (fool) school system education (i.e. programming, conditioning, hypnosis & entrainment of large numbers of the population - i.e.
- Anything written in books, magazines, found in youtubes, tv & radio... Just because someone puts out a book, makes a youtube, or publishes a newletter doesn’t mean they “know” what they’re talking about.

In effect, any & all information found, attained & accumulated from the outside world cannot be related to a “true reality". On the contrary, such "knowledge" gathered from without prevents one from being able to see the truer picture. I find that continuously thinking that anything of ancient past, 'old world' culture, antiquity, as if it is without distortion or having the possibility of being untrue, I would consider that to be quite a naive stand to take, that is just imo.

#22: I have posted on the thread regarding Clark’s Research. It is posted below:

A cross-post from another thread: An Update On Our Evolution by Chris Thomas

I find this interview, along with the recent "Annunaki in the Nevada Desert Conference", and the many Jeff Rense recent interviews with Preston James, Jim Marrs, Michael Cremo & others, including the recent Gordon Duff article (Chinese allied w/ aliens) & Kerry Cassidy's recent Shell Game blog article, not to forget to mention the recent Pattie Brassard so-called whistle-blow, and probably countless of others that I haven't heard about yet - really how much Zecharia Sitchin/Annunaki/Nibiru/Gold Mining Koolaid has been ingested out there. I simply find it amazing how glazed over much of the population - those that think they are awake & aware, AND many who identify themselves as 'scientists' - have gone completely head over heels regarding this particular subject matter. Is one's own life really that boring, or is it all due to the resultant effects of so much fluoride in the drinking water?

It is truly Unbelievable.

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Chris Thomas writes:

"The purpose of looking at these issues discussed with this chapter is to point out that we are being deliberately misled into believing events that are totally untrue. These deliberate lies are being made to distract us from our true purpose and fulfilling our true potential.

There are many reasons for these lies (see Poject Human Extinction), but what is important to remember is that if you have chosen to undergo our current shift in consciousness then what you need to do for yourself is paramount, otherwise, you will get left behind.

This means ignoring what is happening in the world, to a greater extent, as the energies for change are exposing all of the corruption and lies that have underlain our society for centuries. As we progress through the coming year(s), the world is going to become much worse - try not to become distracted from you true purpose."

Source: Synthesis by Chris Thomas (pages 115-116).

turiya

[observer]

Posted by turiya (here)
For the content of turiya's comment #186, please see above

Thank you turiya for your lengthily reply.

Allow me to first of all reiterate, I had no prior knowledge of this thread before my comment #184. I was linked into this discussion from a thread I have been developing. I've had no more time to invest here than a cursory review. Admonishing me for those circumstances reduces the possibility of coming to any common understanding.

I will not attempt to make a point-by-point rebuttal, allow me instead to state, for the record, I agree with a good bit of what you are reporting.

Here-in lies the rub:

The Akashic Records are nothing more than what theoretical scientist refer to as "the field of infinite potential", or otherwise The Quantum Field. Comprehend, please, confusion is applied to all understanding by design.

To this date, the human species has not invented a machine that can read the Quantum Field beyond what is described as the Double Slit Experiment. This is the process where the nature of an electron (wave form, or particle) is determined by the observer.

Individuals who make the claim of an ability to "read the Akashic Records" are reporting their individual subjective interpretation of a field that has an infinite possibility. The "hard physical evidence" that demonstrates this conclusion is gleaned from a thorough investigation of prophecy - from the Dawn of Man to the present. Please, any member, find me a prophecy that has been one hundred percent accurate.

Channeling, or as I prefer, telepathically implanted thought, is a completely subjective experience. No two channels will give you exactly the same interpretation. This is why when the elite use remote viewers, they use an entire team of these viewers.

If one questions ten witnesses to a crime scene, one will get ten different interpretations. If one views a video recording of that same crime, one gets the same images each time the recording is queued. This is the problem. The Human Brain is an imperfect machine.

In my comments, I always refer to "the physical evidence". This is a reference, in most cases, to the records from antiquity. I am making a reference to artifacts that have been buried in the deserts and jungles of the planet, unmolested by any human involvement since their burial.

I agree, in principal, to Mr. Thomas' thesis, I have big problems with his sources.

• Show the members where within any original record from antiquity there is any evidence of a Velon presence and I will be more open to this thesis.
• Why have Mr. Thomas' Astral (Quantum Field) mentors chosen to confuse the evidence available from antiquity (or any where else) with the introduction of these Velon entities as a substitute for what we all understand as the Anunnaki. Perhaps this is an attempt to confuse the evidence.

The best contrived LIE is the one constructed with the greatest amount of TRUTH. Always trust the evidence over personal testimony....

Reference Resources:

How The Anunnaki Prevent Disclosure -
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ent-Disclosure

What controls the hologram?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-the-hologram

*update*
Please Take Note:

To any members interested in the information I can offer from my vast databank on the subject of telepathically implanted thoughts, please refer all future comments or replies directed at me to the following thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ent-Disclosure

I will no longer participate in a thread where my comments are not welcomed.

[Delight]

Posted by observer (here)
The Akashic Records are nothing more than what theoretical scientist refer to as "the field of infinite potential", or otherwise The Quantum Field. Comprehend, please, confusion is applied to all understanding by design.

To this date, the human species has not invented a machine that can read the Quantum Field beyond what is described as the Double Slit Experiment. This is the process where the nature of an electron (wave form, or particle) is determined by the observer.

Individuals who make the claim of an ability to "read the Akashic Records" are reporting their individual subjective interpretation of a field that has an infinite possibility. The "hard physical evidence" that demonstrates this conclusion is gleaned from a thorough investigation of prophecy - from the Dawn of Man to the present. Please, any member, find me a prophecy that has been one hundred percent accurate.

Channeling, or as I prefer, telepathically implanted thought, is a completely subjective experience. No two channels will give you exactly the same interpretation. This is why when the elite use remote viewers, they use an entire team of these viewers.

If one questions ten witnesses to a crime scene, one will get ten different interpretations. If one views a video recording of that same crime, one gets the same images each time the recording is queued. This is the problem. The Human Brain is an imperfect machine.

In my comments, I always refer to "the physical evidence". This is a reference, in most cases, to the records from antiquity. I am making a reference to artifacts that have been buried in the deserts and jungles of the planet, unmolested by any human involvement since their burial.

I agree, in principal, to Mr. Thomas' thesis, I have big problems with his sources.

Show the members where within any original record from antiquity there is any evidence of a Velon presence and I will be more open to this thesis.
Why have Mr. Thomas' Astral (Quantum Field) mentors chosen to confuse the evidence available from antiquity (or any where else) with the introduction of these Velon entities as a substitute for what we all understand as the Anunnaki. Perhaps this is an attempt to confuse the evidence.

The best contrived LIE is the one constructed with the greatest amount of TRUTH. Always trust the evidence over personal testimony....

One of the best explanations I can understand is that the observer is responsible for collapse of possibilities into "real". The best book I ever read lately and one that I keep mentally referencing is Robert Anton Wilson's "Cosmic Trigger" that documents the way that information proliferates through attention.

Also, I cannot help but think that Chris Thomas is channeling, that everyone is channeling and by entertaining "HIS" channeling, what we see there will then proliferate based on how much attention is paid. This fractures into ever increasing complexity in the collective "mind" based on attention.

One of the strange disconnects that I can't seem to figure out for me is that I keep looking at others mental stuff (hehe). It's a mental addiction to keep asking for others to filter information and I have it too.

Something very significant happened for me this year. Because the JFK assassination anniversary is meaningful, I sank into as many of the stories I could find. Lo and Behold, one can see evidence to support almost every interpretation.

So now instead of seeing this episode as a need to get the "FINAL TRUTH", I see it as 100% evidence that JFK's presidency (maybe his life) was something that coinspired with a moment of "time" when something major was happening to splinter the universe fractals (or something...cannot give it words).

It was coincident to the many many events packed in the last century. I now accept we cannot know the 'truth" of even this past event because what has happened is that the world we have created has shifted to a quantum age.

In this quantum age, we are CERTAINLY faced with the fruits of the mental focus. We cannot avoid as "time" collapses into a new era our own personal fruits. The Velon and all the stories cannot do for us (or prevent us from doing) what WE can do for us...collapse the field wave to represent the potential we would choose.

I could go into SO MANY examples of how my allegiance to a thought form will show itself. It usually takes a couple of days but can be only hours dependent on my coherent alignment of expectation.

Is this channeled...heck YES. Tune In Turn On and voila...evidence arrives.

[Herbert]

Hard Evidence Doubling the History of Humanity

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lCl4YJVPxmI

This is the Latest article I could find on Gobekli Tepe, followed by my own critical commentary, and lastly comments from Chris Thomas.

Incredibly, the accepted view from academia today is that our hunter-gatherer forbears could draw straight lines after all.

Where just a few short years previously, academia was adamant that the Cavemen who populated the region could not possibly have built anything as sophisticated as the Sphinx, much less the highly complex temple site at Gobekli Tepe, now the great and the good were forced to reshuffle their hand and admit they were wrong:

They now claim Neolithic hunter-gatherers built the ancient structure, all by themselves.

Though this remarkable U-turn in academic opinion has been hailed by some as a ‘breakthrough’, others remain convinced that ancient structures like the Sphinx and Gobekli Tepe are the fingerprints of a lost civilization.

What can be said for certain is that the carbon-dating figure of 11,000 BCE for Gobekli Tepe means we can re-examine the evidence regarding the age of the Sphinx with renewed enthusiasm.




The Gobekli Tepe Mystery: A Surprising New Discovery

Tuesday, September 17, 2013


Gobekli Tepe was discovered in 1995, and excavations have been going on ever since at the site in southern Turkey. The site consists of dozens of t-shaped dolmens covered with carvings of animals, some known and some unknown. The site has been positively dated to the 10th to 8th millennium BC, making it the oldest known structure in the world. Remains found on the site indicate that people came to it from as far away as the middle east and even southern Russia.

Incredibly, after the vast site was completed, it was then buried over a period of hundreds of years. It is not only the oldest human built structure, it is the only one known to have been intentionally buried.

Until now, its purpose has been an enigma. Whether or not it was a temple has not even been certain. But scientists have now found evidence to suggest that it could have been built to worship or in some way honor Sirius, the dog star.

Giulio Magli, an archaeoastronomer at the University of Milan in Italy, noted that Sirius was so clearly visible in the night sky that the original Egyptian calendar was aligned to its rise and set points, so it would have been a prominent astral feature for early man, but the position and visibility of each star does vary due to the movement of the Earth on its axis. A simulation of the prehistoric sky at the time of Göbekli Tepe's construction had to be created, and assessing the latitude of the site, researchers were able to determine that the dog star would not have been visible until around 9300BC, when it would have emerged to make a dramatic appearance in the heavens.

"I propose that the temple was built to follow the 'birth' of this star," says Magli. "You can imagine that the appearance of a new object in the sky could even have triggered a new religion."

Magli's calculations do seem to confirm the connection between the ancient monument and Sirius, as three of the circles which combine to form the 11,000 year old structure seem to be aligned with the star's estimated rise points on the horizon in 9100BC, 8750BC and 8300BC. A total of 20 circles are thought to exist, each one surrounded by massive T-shaped pillars, though since excavation work began towards the end of the twentieth century, only a small number have been unearthed. This makes it difficult to ascertain whether the circles were built to follow Sirius' appearance at different points along the horizon, or even whether the circles were open or enclosed by a roof.

Consequently, the evidence concerning the temple's use is far from conclusive and research work is still ongoing, but as Sirius is still one of the brightest stars in the night sky, after the moon, Venus and Jupiter, it is easy to see how it might have inspired our early ancestors to build a temple in its honor.

Of course the question remains of why primitive hunter gatherers would take such an interest in the sky. The Dogon People of Mali have a long tradition that a group called the Nommo came to Earth from Sirius, and taught mankind the basics of civilization.





Wayne Herschels research has connected to just about every ancient megalithic civilization the same star pattern which includes Cydonia. His alternative theory can be found here:

http://thehiddenrecords.com/gobekli-...aurus-bull.php

My CRITICAL COMMENTARY

Archaeologists, Anthropologists, Historians and most academics are prisoners of an established curriculum. A mind-set that looks upon the past from a very narrow perspective even when faced with new evidence.

This 'discovery' theory does not resonate with me as for the reason of Gobleki Tepe's creation. Our culture is unusually fixated on Sirius. While it has its place because many cultures refer their origins back to said star, I am concerned that such an obsession with Sirius has put blinders on modern researchers' ability to see other possibilities.

Modern archaeology has a habit of trying to fit all ancient cultures and findings into neat packages that fit into our 'known' paradigm. It's quite possible that Gobleki Tepe served very practical purposes, that the people who built it had no need for ‘gods’ to worship and that they had their own unique culture. Perhaps the researchers should spend more time meditating on the possibilities and stop rushing to publish theories they believe the masses will accept.

Maybe we need to rethink our concepts of "primitive hunter gatherers", human evolution and time itself. The delusion that settling in cities and living on agriculture was a radical step forward for humanity is based on our rational notions of time as linear, evolution as a linear phenomenon, and human history as developing along these lines. None of these concepts stands up to closer scrutiny, or even to the new understandings of the new science.

We have no idea whether, in our ongoing experiments with consciousness, humanity, like all of Nature of which it is part, has gone through many cycles, each unique, each with its own peaks and declines. Do not underestimate the hunter gatherer mind. It is perfectly capable of complex thought, of grasping deep abstractions, and of kinds of consciousness of which we technologically developed people cannot even conceive.

"Primitive" people appear primitive in our rationalistic, mechanistic world view, but not all of those whom we consider primitive are, and some of them may have been, or are, far ahead of us in their understanding of the natural world and our existence as part of it.

Yes, there are some whom I would call truly primitive, and they do not all live in jungles. I meet them daily on the street.

As for why the humans of that period might have taken such an interest in the sky, didn't you as a small child, gaze up in wonder and feel that something out there was speaking to you; that somehow, you and 'out there' were connected; that it was so beautiful and wonderful that it just FEELS reeeally important?

And I can't remember which anthropologist it was who remembered on a dark night in the Kalahari, seeing a sole figure dancing beneath the moon, "dancing to the moon", the dancer later explained, out of love and admiration.

When you know yourself to be part of everything, everything is a source of wonder and understanding.


I asked Chris to explain about the suggestion by archaeologists that the earliest building at Gobekli Tepe had been filled in and rebuilt upon.
He also explains the error in Akashic dating for Gobekli Tepe (7000 yrs ago) he gave to Lisa Harrison in an interview some time ago.

Message from Chris Thomas:

In the parlance of 1950’s cops and robbers movies:
"It’s a fair cop, guv!”

The problem with doing a live interview is that one is half thinking about the previous answer, partly thinking about where to go next and partly thinking about the current question - it’s a stressful place to be and, sometimes, answers pop into one’s head which are connected but not necessarily the correct answer to the specific question.

There are two important dates in “recent” human history - 18,000 years ago and 7,000 years ago.
18,000 because it was an attempt to regain full consciousness by building structures that could focus energies, and 7,000 years ago where we began the “Human Plan”.
Both dates being an important change in the “human condition”.

Kobekli Tepe was built roughly 18,000 years ago. It was built as part of the major building works that took place on many continents at that time as a means of re-connecting the whole of the consciousness back into the body, as well as being a means of transportation given that we had, generally, lost the ability to easily translocate.

The site was abandoned roughly 5,000 years ago (3,000 BCE - see, I can speak science) as the “People of the Jars” felt guilty about murdering their “gods” (The Tall White Nordics) and travelled south to eventually become the Jewish peoples.

There are a great many problems with scientific dating, particularly carbon dating, due to all sorts of contamination so “scientific” dates can be very misleading.
What we have is an abandonment of the site roughly 5,000 years ago and then a second occupation that began about 2,000 years ago by people who came from the Black Sea area. In between, the old floor was covered with desert sands and the new occupiers built a new floor on the sand as they could not understand the energies of the site.

From 7,000 years ago, we became more and more dense, in terms of energy and understanding and so we could not read the energies of a site like Kobekli Tepe, or any other, in the ways we once could as we became more and more physical.

The past is a land that is built on current aspirations and mind control - always look as deep as possible because the answers that lie underneath hold a truth that science will never comprehend.

Best wishes
Chris


"For the concert of Life No-one Has a programme"
What if the point of our lives were simply to live among all the beautiful life forms that have arisen in the natural world?


Feelings are the basic matrix of creation as well as your true source for understanding.

[turiya]

Posted by observer (here)
[*]Why have Mr. Thomas' Astral (Quantum Field) mentors chosen to confuse the evidence available from antiquity (or any where else) with the introduction of these Velon entities as a substitute for what we all understand as the Anunnaki. Perhaps this is an attempt to confuse the evidence.

Hello Observer,

A reminder of what you have previously said here:

"I've had no more time to invest here than a cursory review."

My previous response:

"A "cursory review" leaves a lot to be desired, and a lot more that will be missed."

You are obviously missing a major point that has been made abundantly clear, here. And that is:
The Velon are made up of six subraces, the Annunaki are but one of these subraces. Hence, the name 'Velon' is not a substitute for the race of Annunaki. So then, on the contrary, the Annunaki are but a subset of Velon... a subrace of the race of Velon.

nuff said.
And good day to you.
turiya

p.s. With respect - if you want to partake in the conversation, here, then it is suggested you come up to speed, otherwise future posts that continually show a contentious cursory viewpoint may end up on the "ignore list".

[turiya]

Chris Thomas wrote:

The Velon have been effectively “shunned” by this Universe because of their activities on & around Earth. A proportion of the Velon have managed to avoid expulsion and have found a way of remaining within this Universe. Trying to track down their exact numbers and locations has proven to be very difficult, as they adopt a great many disguises and are adept at hiding by traveling backwards in time.

There would appear to be a few hundred Velon who are on the planet’s surface. Some (very few) have managed to take on human form but the majority are located on military bases, such as the infamous Area 51 where they are frequently known as the “Tall White Nordics”. There is a reason for this name which has nothing to do with Velon appearance – see Chapter Thirteen for an explanation. Most of the Velon who are on this planet are in deep underground secret military bases and use their psychic capabilities to attack people. [See post #68 - an excerpt from an interview in which Chris explains the psychic attack that he experienced.]

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The vast majority of the remaining Velon, about 3.5 million, are located in ships just outside of our Solar System “bubble”. The guardians of the Earth & Solar System have denied them access to the Solar System and so they remain outside.

However, the Velon influence is spread far & wide through the military & the so-called “Elite” and many attempts have been made by people to form openings in the Solar System “bubble” in an attempt to allow the Velon access.

Two examples of this are the “Norwegian Spiral” that appeared over Norway on December 9, 2009. The “spiral in the sky” was generated by the nearby HAARP station and was and attempt to open a “portal” to allow the Velon access. The other is the construction of the Hadron Accelerator in the Cerne complex on the French/Swiss border. Firing up the Accelerator was a deliberate attempt to form a “black hole” within the Solar System. Both of these attempts failed.

However, the most unpleasant attempt to enter the Solar System was by the Velon and was directly targeted against individual people.

For many years, two of the Velon races, the Annunaki and the Hathor, have been seducing people into believing that all of the problems associated with the change we are undergoing can be solved by them. There has been an unbelievable amount of channeled information bombarded at people stating that organizations such as The Great White Brotherhood, The Galactic Federation and the Ashtar Command along with hundreds of “angels” are here to transport us away from Earth to an unspecified location where we would be “ascended to the 5th dimension”.

Unfortunately, millions of people have fallen for this fantasy. These people have become so enraptured by these channeled messages that they have prepared to give up virtually anything to ensure that they were one of the “chosen ones”.

The real purpose to the Annunaki/Hathor “grooming” these people was revealed on Christmas Eve 2010. What the Velon attempted to do on Christmas Eve was to enact 3.5 million “walk-ins”. A ‘Walk-in’ is a situation where the soul is forcible ejected from the body and another soul ‘walks-in’ to the vacated body and takes it over. In other words, the Velon attempted what amounts to mass murder to 3.5 million humans on Christmas Eve 2010. Fortunately, those who guard the Earth rapidly became aware of the Annunaki/Hathor plans and the “walk-in” process was stopped without any human souls being lost.

Most of these 3.5 million people are now aware, on one level or another, that they had been conned by the Annunaki/Hathor and have begun to reject the Velon fantasy stories which is diminishing the Velon’s capabilities to cause further disruption to our process of [soul] completion.

Whilst it could be argued that, as humans, we had little defense against those who chose to make use of the energies of the Fourteenth Faction; those energies were fully removed from Earth in 2002.

Since then, the number of people who have fallen for the shenanigans of the Velon/Annunaki/Hathor is staggering. In recent years, we have had a growing culture of people looking for a quick fix to solve their problems. There seem to be a growing number of people who do not wish to take any kind of responsibility for resolving the problems they have generated in their lives and the Velon ruthlessly exploited the gullibility of such people.

To fulfill our potential, and undergo our process of re-merging the soul back into the body, nobody is going to step in and do the work for us. We are on our own in this, both collectively & individually. If you have chosen to re-merge the soul back into the physical; it will only happen if you take responsibility for yourself.
Excerpt: Synthesis by Chris Thomas (pages 102-104)

turiya

[FireHorse]

Posted by observer (here)
*update*
Please Take Note:

To any members interested in the information I can offer from my vast databank on the subject of telepathically implanted thoughts, please refer all future comments or replies directed at me to the following thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ent-Disclosure

I will no longer participate in a thread where my comments are not welcomed.

Ah, man! Shame. I was really, really enjoying the Turiya-Observer exchange.

Perhaps, if he had done the research that he demands of others, this could have been fascinating.

~FireHorse

[turiya]

Continuing with the subject of 'Walk-ins'...

Chris Thomas wrote:

There would appear to be a few hundred Velon who are on the planet’s surface. Some (very few) have managed to take on human form...

Making no claim here, just judge for yourself...

Excerpt from:

ALIEN INTERVENTION: THE SPIRITUAL MISSION OF UFOs
By Paul Christopher
Chapter 4 Where Two or More are Gathered (page 76)

Sedona, Arizona, known for its scenic red rock mountains & canyons, is another popular gathering place for psychics, channelers, and New Age disciples. From 1986 to 1993, it was the home of the UFO movement known as the “Extraterrestrial Earth Mission.”

The Mission’s leaders, Savizar & Silarra, are two channelers who claim to be extraterrestrials inhabiting human bodies. In fact, there have been numberous extraterrestrials occupying and possessing these same humans for years. For example, in 1986, Savizar was a different entity known as Avinash, and Silarra was called Arthea. In the summer of 1987 (during the Harmonic Convergence), Avinash became Aktivar, and Arthea became Akria. In March 1988, Aktivar and Akria were replaced by Alarius and Polaria, respectively. Soon afterwards the couple became known as Savizar and Silarra. In 1990, Savizar was replaced by a being called ZaviRah, and Silarra changed to Ziva’rah. Then in 1993, Drakar and Zrendar replaced ZaviRah & Ziva’rah and moved the Mission to Hawaii. Since that time, their assignment, known as the “Christ Star Project,” has been to facilitate the evolutionary process of the New Age Movement by co-creating a “new civilization” (i.e., “Heaven”) on Earth.

Are these extraterrestrial “walk-ins,” in fact, modern day manifestations of the age-old “familiar spirits” recorded in the Old Testament of the Bible? This invites serious consideration (cf., Deut. 18:9-14; 1 Sam. 28:3-20; Isa. 8:19-20 KJV).

One afternoon in 1987, an Arizona UFO metaphysical group of about 55 people gathered in Sedona and witnessed a remarkable and astonishingly unusual formation of clouds in the sky clearly spelling out the word YAHWEH. After the clouds quickly dissipated, three inexplicable red glowing lights appeared over a nearby hill. Each light went out consecutively as nightfall approached.

Over the years, Sedona has played host to a wide variety of paranormal phenomena, including UFO sightings, strange cavorting lights, fairy confrontations, visions of “spirits” including the Blessed Virgin Mary, and other unusual manifestations. The Yavapai Indians, incidentally, consider Sedona to be a sacred area, and their myths reveal that an assortment of “deities” live in the rocks.

Another extraterrestrial “walk-in” is Shaari, a female entity from the “Star Command”. In 1989 she inhabited the body of a human trance medium who vacated after an automobile accident. Shortly thereafter she organized the Trilite Seminars. Shaari continues to follow in the footsteps of her predecessors, channeling messages from Abraham, a mail entity claiming to be a member of the “Light Brotherhood” and the “Intergalactic Command,” and a female entity known as Malaya.
"Savizar and Silarra"

Source: ALIEN INTERVENTION: THE SPIRITUAL MISSION OF UFOs
By Paul Christopher
Chapter 4 Where Two or More are Gathered

_______________________=-=_______________________

Lilou's Conversation with a 'Walk-In'...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=p06AvCwnEtA

turiya

[FireHorse]

I stumbled across this...

Post #1729

Nag Hammadi mentioned...

Archons mentioned (the same Archons that I'm unsure about origin...14th Faction or Velon impostor)...

Reptilian Overlords mentioned...

This part, in particular, caught my attention:

I, as a personal preference, do not trust any species of aliens visiting this planet. I particularly DO NOT trust any form of telepathically implanted thought. The evidence is clear that there are Archons patrolling the Akashic Records for anyone doing any sort of remote viewing of these records. These Archons are there to confuse the message, which they do very well.

This point of view is purely my personal interpretation of the evidence I've researched. You can take it or leave it. I'm making no special claim with regard to it. I'm seeking no profit from these disclosures.

This leads me to a question. Chris has mentioned being watched/monitored...NSA & the Velon. Could Observer's comment about Archons patrolling the Akashic be the same thing? It also makes me wonder what his "clear evidence" is...

Also, Chris mentioned being attacked for getting into the Velon part of the Akashic, the Velon were powerful enough to have data withheld from the Akashic and that he ran across contradictions in the Akashic. This leads me to another question. Is the data in the Akashic fixed/permanent or can it be tampered with?

~FireHorse

**Addendum**
Another one...Post #31

I also remember Chris mentioning that some folks need guides to access the Akashic but, his connection was strong and direct. Mona Wind has even mentioned getting into the Akashic when she was younger and being "bounced out" because she was too pushy. Who are the guides? Are they gate-tenders or the "scaries" that Observer keeps referring to?

So many questions...sorry to be a pain in the...*bleep*

~FireHorse

[turiya]

Posted by FireHorse (here)
I stumbled across this...

Post #1729

-Nag Hammadi mentioned...
-Archons mentioned (the same Archons that I'm unsure about origin...14th Faction or Velon impostor)...
-Reptilian Overlords mentioned...

This part, in particular, caught my attention:

I, as a personal preference, do not trust any species of aliens visiting this planet. I particularly DO NOT trust any form of telepathically implanted thought. The evidence is clear that there are Archons patrolling the Akashic Records for anyone doing any sort of remote viewing of these records. These Archons are there to confuse the message, which they do very well.

This point of view is purely my personal interpretation of the evidence I've researched. You can take it or leave it. I'm making no special claim with regard to it. I'm seeking no profit from these disclosures.

This leads me to a question. Chris has mentioned being watched/monitored...NSA & the Velon. Could Observer's comment about Archons patrolling the Akashic be the same thing? It also makes me wonder what his "clear evidence" is...

Also, Chris mentioned being attacked for getting into the Velon part of the Akashic, the Velon were powerful enough to have data withheld from the Akashic and that he ran across contradictions in the Akashic. This leads me to another question. Is the data in the Akashic fixed/permanent or can it be tampered with?

~FireHorse

**Addendum**
Another one...Post #31

I also remember Chris mentioning that some folks need guides to access the Akashic but, his connection was strong and direct. Mona Wind has even mentioned getting into the Akashic when she was younger and being "bounced out" because she was too pushy. Who are the guides? Are they gate-tenders or the "scaries" that Observer keeps referring to?

So many questions...sorry to be a pain in the...*bleep*

Thank you FireHorse,

A while back (early November 2013), Herbert posed a few questions to Chris Thomas regarding the term 'Archons'. He had received back an email from Chris & forwarded that email onto me. I wasn't certain when I would post that information, however with this posted message by you, FireHorse, it seems to be the appropriate time to present this.

Herbert's proposed questions & responses by Chris Thomas:

Question: Are the Archons imaginary or are they one of the Velon races channelling?

Chris Thomas:

There are two answers to this question.

Firstly, In the sense of it being the Archons described by the current understanding on the internet, the Archons do not exist - it is just Velon channelling rubbish. (Emphasis mine)

A couple of years ago, a long-running British TV sci-fi series (called Dr Who) ran a story where humans were doing some experimental deep earth drilling and the drill bit broke into a deep underground chamber where a race of reptilian beings lived. These reptilian beings were, according to the story, the original inhabitants of Earth but, because of a massive surface catastrophe, many thousands of years ago in Earth history, they had gone to live underground and put themselves into a form of hibernation and it was the deep-drilling that had woken them up. They were extremely angry at being disturbed and began to want to take back the surface for themselves.

[DR. WHO VIDEO PREVIEW: http://youtu.be/RQzXN_BNs8s]

Several months after the screening of this episode of Dr Who, the internet began to become flooded with stories of the Archon as beings who had lived in Lemuria and had gone to live underground. These beings were connected (somehow) with Ashtar Command and Sananda and were now emerging, in the current time, to help humans “Ascend to the 5th Dimension” [Emphasis mine.]

It is all Velon rubbish based on a TV script.

Secondly, in the sense of the Nag Hamedi scrolls, they do mention a race called Archons to describe a set of beings that 'did' actually exist - note the word 'DID'.

These beings were not Velon. I have written about these in several of my books but have not called them “Archon” or by any other name, as names always lead to confusion and misinterpretation, and as far as these beings are concerned, they did not call themselves by any name.

The name 'Archon' is a Jewish interpretation of what existed - presumably they felt they had to call them something.

On Atlantis, we experimented with our genetic make-up. Don’t forget, that this was the first time in any Universe or any time-frame that physical, human beings and physical life such as trees, plants and animals, had ever existed. So Atlantis was a place of experimentation and some people chose to mix human genes with those of animals or with those of plants. Most of these experiments were carried out as a means of personal expression of a connection with a particular animal or plant (see my books for fuller details) but some took this experimentation to extremes.

Many of those who had chosen the extreme route (imagine how you would look if you mixed together the primary genetic structure of every living thing and incorporated that mix into your physical human body - bizarre to say the least) were shunned by the rest of Atlantean society and they went to live deep underground.

There is a layer beneath the surface that is called the Mohorvicic Layer. This is a level at which magma flows, under pressure, as a precursor to volcanoes or earthquakes. When the volcano/earthquake is spent, the magma recedes and huge tunnels and chambers are left in the Mohorvicic Layer about 3 km beneath the surface.

Image insert (Source)

Given the bizarre genetic structures of these beings, they lived a very long time but they could also reproduce (by seeds or laying eggs), once they had formed a new version of themselves, they could transfer their soul into the new body.

They have had contact with people on the surface, and this is, presumably, where the reference in the Nag Hamedi scrolls came from. Many of these beings also tried to purify themselves and perfect the human body parts over their many long lifetimes and Hitler is reputed to have been contacted by some of these beings that led to his idea of the “Perfect Arian Race”.

Also the American military has had some contact with some of these beings, particularly in Puerto Rico , and is the source of so much of the disinformation about “alien hybrids”.

ALL of these, essentially, tortured souls were removed from the Earth in 2000 (see my books).

Herbert wrote:
A lot of people are talking about the Archons and what the Gnostics in the Nag Hammadi texts are referring to when they speak of the demi-urge and the Archons. Someone had this to say:

"I have not found anywhere in which Chris addresses the Archon issue... Its a subject that is pretty hot on the internet... would sure like to have Chris clarify this particular subject matter."

Chris Thomas:

I didn’t write about the Archons as they do not exist. But, I have written about the beings that the Nag Hamedi scrolls called the Archon - see above.

QUESTIONER:
There are two possibilities that come to mind...

1) Since the Nag Hammadi Codices were Gnostic writings, my initial feeling was that because prior to the fall of man, when humans inhabited Atlantis, there was no need to record information. Because everyone could access the Akashic whenever they wanted. Language & a system of recording information needed to be developed because we were losing our expanded psychic abilities. With this, came the birth of the intellect, and the need to remember things. Hence, we started to accumulate information, knowledge as in a short-term memory. This was also good for learning a language.

And so with this lack of accessing Akashic recorded information, the storage of outside information became more of a need. And with this arose what we now call the ego.

This my first impression of what the Gnostics were calling the Archons - the great pretender(s) that cause much trouble. The ego, imo, fits the description for what was found in the Nag Hammadi Codices.

Chris Thomas:

I can see how this conclusion was arrived at, but it is wrong.
Full psychic abilities means that we can record everything without recourse to the Akashic - we just remember we “know".
The ego is necessary because it is our sense of self - we cannot survive without the ego. Problems only arise if the ego is too large or too small. If we keep ourselves in balance then the ego is just who we are.

We only needed a method of recording (writing) when we began to lose our higher psychic functions - see my books.

QUESTIONER:
2) The second possibility comes from Chris Thomas' explanation in that Robert Stanley interview - that there was a group of Annunaki that had traveled back in time to implant and/or feed the Annunaki fantasy story to a Sumerian tablet maker. This group of Annunaki became trapped in that time period because they effectively changed the future from where they had come from. Hence were unable to get back to that timeline. Afterwards, they started playing their channeling games with the Earth human of that era & the Gnostics became aware of these entities & recorded that in the Nag Hammadi Codices.

This would be a major question to hit Chris up with, because I see the internet seems to be aflame with who the Archons are.


Chris Thomas:

See above - it is all disinformation (based on a TV script) and Velon interference.

Best wishes

This was an email response from Chris Thomas sent to Herbert.
posted by turiya