Crazy China! Forty People Broke into the 4th Branch of Our Community Without Any Lawful Documents!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I hate to say this but the whole village and their happy happy inhabitants looks like a model actors village, the likes of Hollywood would be jealous of, I have the odd feeling this community is solely created for reasons unbeknownst to all of us, this feels even scarier than Jonestown to me, it has a very orchestrated feeling, I cant help feeling like that, to me it just does, and 'for all the beauties in the world' , wtf does that mean, especially when this phrase goes accompanied with an image of the founder surrounded by women, is this a communist Hugh Hefner disguised as a spiritual leader, is it a sanctuary for all the unwanted women/girls in China, a clever on line vacation destination with a possible bride attached, what the hell?

For all I know its a village filled with future brides for whoever can afford it, last thing I heard the Chinese economy is not doing all that great for the average Joe or whoever there, so I cant actually blame anyone participating, I went to check out the links on those webpages, next thing you know I get bombarded with requests for applying to Chinese dating sites, seriously, an effort to create a better and greater community should be applauded, but this one makes the hair in my neck stand up. It looks like its staged for the outside world, and I have no clue why, a communist spiritual society, I cant even begin asking questions, I have to many and almost none of them are nice or pretty.

Sorry.

Here is what I really think.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0

[Anchor]

Well this thread has prompted me to get something off my chest.

First to state I am going to help the community that has asked for it in a generic manner for the highest and best outcome. As you may have read earlier I wanted to do more and while I did get an answer from xidaijena, it was not clear that I had the permission to do otherwise, nor was I given a specific brief for a vision - AND THAT IS OK BY ME - this is my way and I am happy with it - freewill is sacrosanct.

I respect xidaijena and I see her light and the light of her other-selves - and my God that light is bright!

I see the seeds of true new paradigm thinking in the 'second home' and in what I have so far seen of the 800 values of the lifechanyuan. I have read some and will probably read the rest of as it is an interesting collection of ideas. I find the spirit in the initiative powerfully resonant and commanding of attention. I don't need to read the lifechanyuan forum to see what is going on with this situation - but I did anyway and its pretty interesting.

While many here have observed and documented the "old paradigm" problems the second home branch faces (and I have never said these are wrong or disagreed with them), its just I refuse to focus on a bad outcome.

My way is not of the old paradigm. I do not believe it is appropriate to solve "old paradigm" problems with "old paradigm" techniques, because the old paradigm product will be just that and it will die along with the rest of the old paradigm. As has been noted, it is likely to fail anyway.

That which will survive with us will only survive in the new paradigm and new paradigm thinking is required to solve both old paradigm and eventually new paradigm problems.

I expect that the "new paradigm" as seen from the perspective of the old stalwarts of the old paradigm is an "etoilated" realm they don't understand properly. If they did they would not look back to the old ways. To them, the unawakened, they see the new paradigm "celestials" as living in a fantasy, impractical, improper, hippy dippy, wishy washiness, naive, silly, stupid and easily misled people that have no hope against their manipulation. These old stalwarts are of a bygone age and simply do not know who they are messing with. (Or actually they do, hence all the efforts at suppression - that will ultimately fail).

If you are having a problem building a community and you are stuck in old paradigm thinking I have reached the conclusion that you simply do not have a chance anymore. Stock up on your guns and food, build your rat hole shelters. You will all die by the swords that you live by.

If you are building a "new age" community (new paradigm community, based on 4th density positive values) in an old paradigm world (3rd density duality) - you will OBVIOUSLY face immense challenges and solving them will be done by reckoning with the old paradigm forces in a way that will seem to them miraculous . This is the challenge of the dual activated starseeds and wanderers of today.

And yes it SERIOUSLY TICKS ME OFF that Avalon often appears work against people who are trying to get help with operating in a new paradigm way.

So much so I say things I later regret.

Sorry.

Those of us, and I assume xidaijena is included in that set, who have touched that 4th density positive realm sufficiently to know, absolutely for sure what we are - do not exclusively live here in this 3rd density duality realm - we know we are immortal in our home realm. There is thus no fear of death. I know I am not the only one on this forum in this group, so I say WE.

They, we, you and I are all here because it is important at this time to do be so.

I am confident that while our 3rd density human component parts (bodies) will suffer and express frustration and do all those things that we do as 3rd density creatures - the awakened ones, when they can remember to remain tuned, do not fear the old paradigm challenges IN ANY WAY and as they are more awake to their mission and purpose and nothing will stand in their way - even though it looks bad, great things will be achieved.

The challenges then whilst they are practical, serious and difficult, are all symptomatic of the extreme times we live in and the ever approaching thinning of the veils between the 3rd density duality and the 4th density positive realms expressed by this planet at this time.

Everything happens for a reason.

To a truly awakened seeker the challenges and suffering are no matter - because life is lived in the moment, in abundance and in faith.

Sadly not all seeds that fall in the fertile earth grow. Some grow and are trampled down. With enough care skill and group effort though - the gardens will finally grow. This can be the story of the celestials and the seeds they so which grown into communities of the new paradigm.

It will happen.

In conclusion:

I feel that the point of this thread was to ask for help but I wont participate in online petitions. Sorry.

I will focus for the highest and best outcome for the community - either in its current form or in the form to come - and it will come. No old paradigm powers can stop this from happening. If this all, that is what I am writing, sounds wishy washy, illogical nonsense and a waste of time - just move on (or ask me questions).

If you are scared or worried that my energy (or the energy of those that join in) will be intercepted and misappropriated against my will - fear not, it cannot happen.

Anyone who wishes to join me can do so at any time or place of their choosing for as little and as long as you like - time is irrelevant.

My humble last request is for the naysayers is please to stop focusing overly much on your expected/predicted undesirable outcomes that none of us wish to see - despite the fact that we must at some stage acknowledge intellectually that such a thing if course possible and supported by the valid thinking/analysis that has been done. Know that you have done a good job in defining the old paradigm suffering potential - but lets not make it worse.

Even if you do carry on doing that and focusing this way within your perspective of fears, doubts and other such old paradigm thinking - controlled by the prison rules you live under; I do not think you have the power to really change things that much - but it will reduce the efforts you could be expending in the new way. Those old paradigm forces have exponentially less potential to change things than the powers of next higher realm where the methods of visualization and focus operate fully.

Focus on what you want not on what you don't want - or are worried may happen; if you are worried, you lack faith and you are not living in the moment. If this sound like you and your own plans and initiatives for a new way ahead are always failing - read this post again and elevate yourselves to the new paradigm by making those choices and developing the awareness.

Call on all the help from the angelic realm (or whatever that means to you - higher help) and help will be given.

Be safe.

Love from Me to You all together with my humble blessings and gratitude for your tolerance to this longish post.

Anchor..

[xidaijena]

Posted by yuhui (here)

I agree.

Chinese customs and beliefs and family values are deeply entrenched. And they are much more important on the surface/outside, "saving the face" is much more important than everything.

Maybe that's why on their forum, their leader claim their female and male members live in separate houses？

I think I have already mentioned before that power rules this country instead of laws.......it's a disaster

Hi, dear yuhui, The female and male members living in separate houses are very good for individual privacy. I like and enjoy it very much.There' no direct connection with "saving the face". It's also a good protection of female ones living here. Make female members feel safe and free.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
I find this so annoying. blufire, you have said yourself, you make no judgements whatsoever on the ethics or morality of a position (re the dreadful Monsanto).

I would like for you to point this out to me in my posts or threads. These are your and several others projections on to me.

[Mod hat on]

OK, how about this:

Posted by blufire (here)

I personally do not believe for an instant that ‘xidiajena’ or ‘jena’ is this sweet young woman in the avatar.

Do you realize how disrespectful, hostile, negative, unpleasant and insulting that is? Are you even capable of putting yourself in anyone else's position? (Viz. that of a young woman who comes from a very different culture and speaks a different language, has dared to live her life very differently from most, is experiencing serious practical difficulties, and is openly asking for support and encouragement from fellow humans half way across the world?)

And instead of what she asks for, what do you give her? A great example of just how nasty and distrusting some people are: as if she's not just experienced exactly that already, as she reported.

Jena KNOWS what the human race can dish up. She doesn't need any more of that here. Avalon can do better than that.

Her situation has actually got very little to do with you. You specialize in criticizing and deconstructing everything you can -- and then, when you realize you've gone too far, covering up with nice comments that are disingenuous and wafer-thin. In my strong opinion, you should stay out of this thread: if you have nothing helpful or sincerely pleasant to say, then just be quiet.

[Abhaya]

I think the fact that Jena is simply on this forum at all gives maybe the greatest credibility to her community. While there are of course fundamentalist crazy cult communities, I don't think u will find many of their members on these pages. The reason being that the open minded thinking, that permeates here at PA, simply could not mesh with the kind of unbalanced cultists thinking, which would almost always have some rigid "my way is the best and only way" dogma. In fact it has already been shown by anchor that part of her communities values are that they don't think they have the best way but simply another way. One that works for the people there. This is the kind of statement that is not likely to be in any unbalanced community.

Plus we have no proof of any mistreatment of anyone women or children. So I think all the people so readily jumping to this conclusion, Some admitting that it's only based on a gut feeling from a few pictures, are being quite rude.

Put your self in Jena's shoes and think how some of these posts most be hitting her in the midst of all the chaos. I think she needs nothing but support. Even if it is some elaborate conspiracy by the leader to attack his own village (which is very doubtful and takes some imagination to begin with) the fact is she is under attack and I think those who can help in the way anchor can should get on board. I know I will try my best. ( not that I'm qualified!)

No offense meant to anyone.

[Limor Wolf]

In support of what was already said by Ancor and Bill, something really strange is happening here. Some of the members responses to this request for help and sharing appear as if they sense a certain threat coming to themselves.
An in-depth search of what this threat might be has left me with no answers..
There is no relevence to what are our personal views on this way of life or another or on anyone else's choice of living. It is not ours, and we weren't requested to pack our bags and move there or voice our oppinions towards it.

So far, Xidaijena has shared her personal and communal encounters as of late which are a bit of a struggle at this time and simply did (with much grace) what most everyone else would have done in her shoes and it is to ask to spread the story far and beyond so it might help the Ecovillage community to survive.

Now, do that if you want and don't do it if you don't.

This community do not seem to represent violence, do not seem to do with anything that is against human rights as far as I can tell, and do not seem to hurt anyone or anything, moreover, they do not appear to coerce their belief on anyone else, they did not request us for money, did not mention even in one word what they themselves do right as opposed to others doing wrong, and they seem genuinly happy.

Trying to fault this group of people in such circumstances and especially with an ad hominem attack is a little untasteful (Intentionally not repeating the extremely rude accusations here) as well as overlooking what was the intent of the OP here in Avalon as it was expressed.

'Live and let live' is not only a worn proverb, if only we could respect this little part then we would already be existing in a far better world.

Where is the threat?

Why not save our energies to more worthy causes and if something appears as if it is not quite right, then here is an interesting challange for us to voice our concernes in a more respectfull and considerate way

Sometimes politness is worth a lot in our world, but love and caring for what happens to another in it's simplest and most basic meaning appears to be a far out reached goal.

It is worth working on, however. I know that I have a lot more work to do myself

will we ever get there?


Best of energies and well wishes to us all, to jena and her community ~


Limor

[blufire]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
I find this so annoying. blufire, you have said yourself, you make no judgements whatsoever on the ethics or morality of a position (re the dreadful Monsanto).

I would like for you to point this out to me in my posts or threads. These are your and several others projections on to me.

[Mod hat on]

OK, how about this:

Posted by blufire (here)

I personally do not believe for an instant that ‘xidiajena’ or ‘jena’ is this sweet young woman in the avatar.

Do you realize how disrespectful, hostile, negative, unpleasant and insulting that is? Are you even capable of putting yourself in anyone else's position? (Viz. that of a young woman who comes from a very different culture and speaks a different language, has dared to live her life very differently from most, is experiencing serious practical difficulties, and is openly asking for support and encouragement from fellow humans half way across the world?)

And instead of what she asks for, what do you give her? A great example of just how nasty and distrusting some people are: as if she's not just experienced exactly that already, as she reported.

Jena KNOWS what the human race can dish up. She doesn't need any more of that here. Avalon can do better than that.

Her situation has actually got very little to do with you. You specialize in criticizing and deconstructing everything you can -- and then, when you realize you've gone too far, covering up with nice comments that are disingenuous and wafer-thin. In my strong opinion, you should stay out of this thread: if you have nothing helpful or sincerely pleasant to say, then just be quiet.

Hey Bill, I was just wondering if you missed my post #76 on this thread . . . . . .


As to this part of your post:

In my strong opinion, you should stay out of this thread: if you have nothing helpful or sincerely pleasant to say, then just be quiet.

This statement took me right back to the exchange between you and I on this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...189#post759189 specific posts #125, #177, #208

This is a small bit from my post #177 on that thread

So you tell me Bill and the other perceived leaders of this forum . . . . am I being disfellowshipped and/or shunned and/or told to keep my mouth shut

.

So I guess I am being told to keep my mouth shut . . . . . not sure if I have ever seen this on the forum before.





Out of respect and request, I will not post on this thread again.

To Jena . . . I sincerely hope and pray you find resolution and you are able to stay in your village. I hope and pray that you, the other villagers and especially the children are tucked under a wing of protection and peace.

[Abhaya]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
I find this so annoying. blufire, you have said yourself, you make no judgements whatsoever on the ethics or morality of a position (re the dreadful Monsanto).

I would like for you to point this out to me in my posts or threads. These are your and several others projections on to me.

[Mod hat on]

OK, how about this:

Posted by blufire (here)

I personally do not believe for an instant that ‘xidiajena’ or ‘jena’ is this sweet young woman in the avatar.

Do you realize how disrespectful, hostile, negative, unpleasant and insulting that is? Are you even capable of putting yourself in anyone else's position? (Viz. that of a young woman who comes from a very different culture and speaks a different language, has dared to live her life very differently from most, is experiencing serious practical difficulties, and is openly asking for support and encouragement from fellow humans half way across the world?)

And instead of what she asks for, what do you give her? A great example of just how nasty and distrusting some people are: as if she's not just experienced exactly that already, as she reported.

Jena KNOWS what the human race can dish up. She doesn't need any more of that here. Avalon can do better than that.

Her situation has actually got very little to do with you. You specialize in criticizing and deconstructing everything you can -- and then, when you realize you've gone too far, covering up with nice comments that are disingenuous and wafer-thin. In my strong opinion, you should stay out of this thread: if you have nothing helpful or sincerely pleasant to say, then just be quiet.

Hey Bill, I was just wondering if you missed my post #76 on this thread . . . . . .


As to this part of your post:

In my strong opinion, you should stay out of this thread: if you have nothing helpful or sincerely pleasant to say, then just be quiet.

This statement took me right back to the exchange between you and I on this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...189#post759189 specific posts #125, #177, #208

This is a small bit from my post #177 on that thread

So you tell me Bill and the other perceived leaders of this forum . . . . am I being disfellowshipped and/or shunned and/or told to keep my mouth shut

.

So I guess I am being told to keep my mouth shut . . . . . not sure if I have ever seen this on the forum before.





Out of respect and request, I will not post on this thread again.

To Jena . . . I sincerely hope and pray you find resolution and you are able to stay in your village. I hope and pray that you, the other villagers and especially the children are tucked under a wing of protection and peace.

There are times when we are unfairly told to be quiet.

Then there are times when we have in fact gone to far and should in fact be told to shut up.

Learn from it and stop acting like a victim yourself.

When we make mistakes and admit them this is a great time to grow.

[Violet]

So Jena, I've been wanting to ask you about the granddaughter thing.

The only "relative" connection I knew so far was that we be the children of God. When you say granddaughter you're skipping one generation. In my perception that looks like distancing yourself from God somewhat, but I think that's probably not what you mean...

What does it mean?

[Billy]

Posted by Limor (here)
In support of what was already said by Ancor and Bill, something really strange is happening here. Some of the members responses to this request for help and sharing appear as if they sense a certain threat coming to themselves.
An in-depth search of what this threat might be has left me with no answers..

Best of energies and well wishes to us all ~


Limor

When someone constantly emits a conflictive energy, it is a sign of great insecurity within self. Being insecure within can make you feel threatened by others. This can cause conflict within self, but being in denial it is projected outwards towards others.

An example is this thread. The people who broke into Xidaijena's community feel insecure and threatened which manifests conflict. Looking at some posts here, Some Avalon members also. Bullying tactics come into play. Respect for others goes out the window.

It is all Mirror reflections of self.

My thoughts.

Be at peace.











http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Conflictive

1. A state of open, often prolonged fighting; a battle or war.
2. A state of disharmony between incompatible or antithetical persons, ideas, or interests; a clash.
3. Psychology A psychic struggle, often unconscious, resulting from the opposition or simultaneous functioning of mutually exclusive impulses, desires, or tendencies.
4. Opposition between characters or forces in a work of drama or fiction, especially opposition that motivates or shapes the action of the plot.
intr.v. (kn-flkt) con·flict·ed, con·flict·ing, con·flicts
1. To be in or come into opposition; differ.
2. Archaic To engage in warfare.

[Realeyes]

I don’t have time to post much, and I don't want to derail this thread topic, yet due to what has occurred here on this thread, I wish to share something; I will be as brief as possible and hope it is useful to some. Please know I write these words with love from an outsider’s perspective of the dynamics I have been observing recently.

Firstly I would like to send my thanks to Bluefire who has mentioned her attentions will go elsewhere, yet I suspect with human nature it is likely she may return to read follow-ups, so will hopefully see this post too.

As I understand it, how we respond to the world tells us a lot about ourselves and mirrored by opportunities of 'why' we may get certain reactions occurring from others. For myself, anytime something ‘repeats’ itself, I take a step back and go within to see what it is that is hidden from my sight/understanding/knowingness about my nature. A repeat means to me that I missed the opportunity of gleaming a new understanding the first time around and the opportunity arrives in this repeat now. I have a choice, deny it/bounce it back, or embrace it to realise the truth it beholds and turning it into wisdom.

Sharing opinions and insights that encourages growth, expanded truth, inspiration or assists others to discover their own unique path is what I believe Avalon is all about – Marching towards the New Paradigm (whatever that means to each individual). We are all journeyman finding our feet where no one knows the WHOLE TRUTH – yet - that is until we 'Arrive', re-remembering we are all conscious co-creator gods.

How a post is styled and expressed in a post involves much more than the way the words are strung together and orchestrated, they reveal a conscious intent and energy that is also readable. Posts that are loaded with trip-up questions, or certain tones or connotations, or twisting and misdirecting, or pointing fingers and delivered in a adamant ‘rail-roading’ technique hammering an opinion that bleeds onto so many threads (...taking a breath.....), well such styled posts reveal a story more about the person composing them than the person or topic they were directed to. ‘Rail-roading’ (as I understand it) is an emotional dominant force (3rd Chakra) far removed from a neutral conscious awareness that is unconditionally loving, constructive in many ways to inspire greater evolutionary change and deeper discovery of Spiritual Self. Love raises the tide for all boats.

I Know that when I am in that complete neutral space in my heart centre or higher, I will share my piece as best I can that is lovingly constructed to inspire. It matters not either way if my seeds of wisdom were heard or not, or disregarded and judged – because it was ‘given unconditionally’ and coming from a ‘Timeless state of Consciousness’ – an opportunity placed out there for a point in Time. Seeds will spark and grow in their own time.

'My business' is observing my thoughts, intents and how I respond to the world. I remember a particular dark night of the Soul where I realised how we humans on an unconscious level from very young crave ‘Attention’ and can dance many faces to extract the attention from people, places, things, times and events – it is an addiction, it makes one feel alive having someone else’s energy focussed on oneself no matter if it is given in high regard or dislike. Attention is all about molecules of emotion and a substitute for one’s Spirit. And unfortunately until we truly reach that neutral state of mind and 'sustain it', it is a constant vigilance to observes one’s true intents and the type of responses we are setting up checking if they are truly unconditional or feeding an emotional habit - and correct when needed and bring it back to neutral. We are all learning as we go...

As I understand it, the moment I make a judgement, blame, point, criticise, dominate, demand, conclude, control, whinge, etc, etc I have slipped from that neutral state and now swinging the pendulum of polarity consciousness and forgotten that we are all Unique god sparks - re-discovering our unique truths and spiritual journeys of awakenings and enhancing upon them as we unfold.

I had a friend who played the tyrant one moment when the situation suited her (calling it her god power) and the next a victim if she wanted someone to do something for her (playing the helpless woman). It took me 10 years before I finally saw the manipulating game and how it worked and now that I saw it clearly it really annoyed me, I had been totally hoodwinked and now watching other people being duped by the same old moves. It is interesting watching the subtle stages of how realisations build upon themselves and how they affect the emotional body and our thoughts. Anyway, this irritation was getting the better of me.

Then I worked going inward on myself over this situation; looked closely in the mirror with the focussed intent to truly understand why I gravitated to this; what attitudes within my nature was I blind to or living in complete denial of? To cut the story short; it involved really observing myself, lots of raw truthful owning, lots of reflection and lots of my forgiveness towards others and also myself; loving myself into life, allowing others to love themselves into life 'their' way - thus all this was bringing home to self my fragmented energy turning it into wisdom and a deeper connected Love for ALL.

A year later I had the opportunity to observe my friend play out her tricks to feed the daily cravings needing attention; I had no inkling of irritation or any other type of emotion – that at first surprised me; After some time, I got it, then silently sent unconditional love to all involved in this scene understanding they were having opportunities just like I had had to learn a deeper aspect of themselves – all was meaningful.

[Realeyes]

Hi Jena,

I posted some time ago on another of your threads – you are already aware that you and your community are in my loving focus each day and you also have others too on PA doing the similar focuses.

We hear you sisters & brothers!

God Speed Realeyes

[mosquito]

Posted by Anchor (here)
Well this thread has prompted me to get something off my chest.......

That's an incredibly profound post John, thanks.

[Sierra]

Posted by Realeyes
I don’t have time to post much, and I don't want to derail this thread topic, yet due to what has occurred here on this thread, I wish to share something; I will be as brief as possible and hope it is useful to some. Please know I write these words with love from an outsider’s perspective of the dynamics I have been observing recently.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post767528

Your observations re dynamics/repeating patterns is spot on. (And I doubt anyone considers you an outsider.)

Thank you.

Sierra

[xidaijena]

Posted by Violet (here)
Can the story be brought to the attention of our own local newspapers?

I hope so, dear Violet. They came again just now and much more rudely and viciously and crazily! I'll share the pics later.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Bubu (here)
Like Blufire I kept asking where the funds came from.

Hi dear Bubu, please forgive me that I didn't and couldn't reply all of your posts very quickly for the situation becomes much worse for us. All living members here are protecting ourselves and trying our best to spread the events to Chinese central governments. There came a group of people at 1:00 pm just now. They were very rude to us. I will share more pics later.

If you want to know more about the funds, you can see more from this link:

How Does Your Community Finance Yourself? -- Reply to Marion Le Failler


http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...extra=page%3D1

BTW...I'm so sorry that my English is not very good. I want to reply and answer all your questions, but I have little time to think and express it very accurately and quickly.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hi Jena, I guess my question was buried in discussions so thought I would ask again a little on your beliefs, January 25th 2013, it the 400th day after the Mayan Calendar ended and known as the Day of New Beginning.

We are a community of the gifted, and more than willing to help when we understand what we are helping.

Can you explain briefly of what you are looking forward to in 2013 and why those associated with your community are the lucky ones? thx

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
from most of your web pages is written...

I am from China. I go around with some important information on the coming new era - Lifechanyuan era after 2013 for those lucky ones!

Xuefeng (Deiform Buddha),the messenger of the Greatest Creator, sincerely following Revelation ,commit himself to the foundation of Lifechanyuan in the mortal world and implementation of all religions will return to the origin-the Greatest Creator, for the purpose of redeeming the living beings and "gathering ripe crops" who 100% believes in Jesus Christ and Buddha.

I'm not sure everyone understands what this mission statement means...

Xuefeng who brought Buddhism back to China over 1000 years ago, has committed himself to building these types of communities?

mentioning Revelation and gathering ripe crops of Buddhist and Christians...

how does the purple robe "Grand Master of the True Enlightenment" relate to Revelation and end times?

[xidaijena]

Posted by Bobd (here)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post755333

There is a relevant earlier thread started by xidaijena (Hello to you) that appears to contain very valuable and informative dialog

ED: Another thread started by xidaijena may be helpful to review as well:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post754340

Thank you for sharing, dear Bobd. Hugs.

[Rocky_Shorz]

you need to understand in America we read of Cults all the time, always negatively, yes community living is a dream for many at Avalon, but you are keeping very quiet about...

The Noah's Ark for 2012 is Lifechanyuan !The founder of Lifechanyuan is Guider Xuefeng who is the messenger of the Greatest Creator(God), and the incarnation of Jesus Christ and Baddha Sakyamuni. He came here to gather the ripen crops...


Why we shall believe in Mr Xuefeng ?

Because Guide Xuefeng is the only one who can truthfully explains the origin of the universe, the mystery of LIFE, and the true meaning of life by the integration of Christianity, Catholicism, Islam, and Buddhism, Taoism, science, Mao Zedong thought ; He is the only one who can show the view of 36-dimension space,especially the real vision of the perfect Thousand-year world, the immortal Ten-thousand-year world and Buddha-the Elysium World to human beings based on the interpretation of Time, Space and direct a bright and wonderful future for human beings. He is the messenger of the Greatest Creator and an angel sent by Jesus Chirst to harvest the ripe crops at the end of the world...

now if you came to Avalon to say Jesus Christ and Buddha's incarnate needs our help saving your community...

We would have many questions like why doesn't he turn the local village's water into wine and knock them all out?

as I said you have joined a gathering of the gifted, so we understand, but also know why you are getting the negative attention, because of your exposure on the web...

what's known doesn't always have to be shared with those outside of your communities.

what you are advertising is you have a cult who's owner is God-s right hand angel and he's coming to kill his followers and take them away...

[xidaijena]

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Anyhow I don't know if anyone has mentioned it here, but have you contacted any kind of legal representative to look at the contract that you had? To at least start there, of course beware which type of lawyer you get, you must be very cautious and always aware that if you do not feel comfortable with a any particular one, to kindly tell them very politely that you would like to think over their advice and get back to them... NEVER let a lawyer take control of YOUR DECISION making ability, or scare you like an insurance salesman...

It would be interesting to know from a lawyer's point of view, what the legal interpretation is first. Oddly that seemed to be missing, and also I am not sure what it is like over there, but don't pay anything up front to any lawyer when you are just sharing your information and asking what they can do for YOU. Treat them like any other business man who WANTS YOUR BUSINESS... Over here lawyers make people roll over and bark like circus animals and pay them to just look at them... (why... I don't know... but I think it must be part of their training, which is keeping secrets, and enriching themselves...) None the less you at least need to know what is going on from their point of view... (not that you have to agree...)

Please keep us posted...

Hi dear sigma6, they don't give us time to ask lawyers. They just want us to move out very quickly by force. Our contract is legal one, but they said it was illegal.

When the last group of brothers and sisters to leave from the 3rd branch were stopped by government representatives and asked to sign a contract termination agreement. This agreement was not drafted by us. The main content is that, “both parties have discussed and reached the agreement. The Second Home is willing to cancel the lease contract without getting any compensation.” This is ridiculous, as we are being forced to leave our home, how is possible we want to leave our home voluntarily? However, they did not allow our brothers and sisters to leave when the agreement was not signed. Our answer was, “We refuse to sign the agreement if we are not compensated ¥4,000,000 RMB for a property into which we had invested a value of double that amount. Besides, what is point in asking us to terminate a contract which you have always insisted is illegal and invalid anyway? If you want to force us to sign the agreement, do you believe that I (one community representative) will knock my head against the wall and die in front of you?”.

~ " Forty Brothers and Sisters Withdrew From the 3rd Branch Safely Today" on Nov 19, 2013

http://lifechanyuan.org/bbs/forum.ph...extra=page%3D1

Now we are using every minute and every second to protect our lives and our community. I'm now still using generator to publish the news here, but I don't know whether my physical body is fine or not tomorrow.

We live every day as the last day now. The local governments won't help us for they just try their best to dismiss us. The only thing we can do is to protect our lives and wait for the final decisions of Chinese central governments. May God bless us.