The "Hitler" Speech They (Don't) Want You To Hear..!

[aikisaw]

Milneman

That's a shame, and I mean that sincerely. I really hope you can find the time to take part in this discussion more fully as I do seem to sense you've got a rather unique perspective on the subject, even if I don't fully understand it yet

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Thank you for saying that. It is appreciated.

I have been looking at this subject for three years. I will not leave the thread. The thread is moving at a pace I cannot keep up with. I would like to provide the sources I have used. I have to research my own stuff going back in time. Some of the links are dead and.... you get the idea.

Here is a link that is good and many topics are debated from a different perspective. Apologies if it is already posted in the thread.
Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust http://codoh.com/

[Belle]

From that same article at http://zioncrimefactory.com/the-six-million-myth/ can be found copies of newspaper articles beginning in 1900 that mention the "6 million" number.

"1900-
American Zionist leader, Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, let slip the Zionist agenda behind the Holocaust Hoax: to promote public sympathy for Zionism (Jewish takeover of Palestine).

“There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”
(“ZIONISTS’ MASS MEETING: Rabbi Wise’s Address.” New York Times. June 11, 1900.)".....

"1902-
Under its entry on “anti-Semitism”, the tenth edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica references “Six Million Jews” of Rumania and Russia being “systematically degraded.”"...

"1905-
A Jewish preacher declares that if the (Jewish-led) Communist uprising in Russia succeeds in its long-time goal of overthrowing the Tsarist government, Zionism would be obsolete. “6,000,000 Jews” is mentioned."...

"1906-
A Jewish publicist addresses an audience in Germany where he claimed that the Russian Government had a “solution of the Jewish Question” and that this solution entailed the “murderous extermination” of “6,000,000 Jews.” "...

"1910-
In the American Jewish Committee’s annual report it is claimed that since 1890 Russia has had a policy to “expel or exterminate” Six Million Jews. (Source: American Jewish Yearbook pg. 15)"...

"1911-
Max Nordau, co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodore Herzl, made an astonishing pronouncement at the tenth Zionist Congress in Basle, Switzerland. He claimed that 6,000,000 Jews would be annihilated. This was twenty-two years before Hitler came to power and three years before World War I started."...

"1914-
The bloodbath of World War I kicks off and the Jews are already whining that “6,000,000 Jews” are in danger."...

"1915-
Jewish leader Louis Marshall proclaims: “In the world today there are about 13,000,000 Jews, of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war zone: Jews whose lives are at stake and who today are subjected to every manner of suffering and sorrow…”"...

"1917-
Jewish lobbyists convince the British government to support the Zionist project of making Palestine the national homeland for the Jews. British official James Arthur Balfour decrees the “Balfour Declaration.” The letter is addressed to Zionist big-wig Lord Rothschild."...

"1918-
“Six million souls” need a billion dollars"..."The British take control of Palestine, and occupy the country militarily. Eventually the British Mandate for Palestine is administered, against the will of the Arabs living there."...

"1919-
Shortly after the end of World War I hostilities, Zionists claim a “Holocaust” of “Six Million Jews” is imminent in Europe in a deceitful campaign to raise money for Jewish charities and also to distract public attention from the Jewish origins of Communism, the Bolshevik atrocities in Russia and the Armenian Genocide."...

"1920-
A Jewish relief campaign advertisement states: “Today 6,000,000 Jews are facing the darkest days ever known in the history of the race.”"...

"1921-
Russian patriots gain ground on the Jewish Bolshevik usurpers of their nation. In a vein attempt to hide their heavy involvement in the brutal Bolshevist atrocities being committed in Russia, Jews reel out the “six million” myth once again." from the New York Times, July 20, 1921...

"1922-
Zionist leader, Nahum Sokolow, boasts about Organized Jewry’s globalist ambitions when, at a Zionist conference in Carlsbad, California, he proclaimed: “The League of Nations is a Jewish idea, and Jerusalem some day will become the capital of the world’s peace.”"...

"1932-
Jews commit a deliberate genocide. To put down nationalist resistance to a Communist takeover, Soviet Dictator Josef Stalin orders the Jewish-dominated Soviet Secret Police (NKVD) to orchestrate a man-made famine in the Ukraine. Stalin’s Jewish deputies and secret police chiefs (Kaganovich, Beria, Yagoda, etc) ruthlessly implement the murderous starvation policy. Between six and seven million Ukrainian men, women and children, are annihilated in this genuine Holocaust. It is now known as the “Holodomor.”" (Chicago American, February, 1932)

"1933-
Hitler comes to power in Germany. Antithetical to Jewish banking interests which thrives off of usury (the lending of money at interest making debt-slaves out of countries), Hitler immediately begins printing his own state-controlled, labor-backed currency and thus breaking the death-grip of the monolithic Jewish banking establishment of Europe, led by the Rothschild’s and the Warburg’s. Hitler also removed Jews from all positions in government, media, education and banks, which they had been dominating up until that point.

Because of this World Jewry declares war on Germany in 1933. Jews around the world launched a global economic boycott of German goods in an effort to economically strangle Germany to death and topple Hitler’s new government."
(Daily Express, March, 1933)

"1936-
As early as 1936, Zionists who originally coined the phrase Final Solution of The Jewish Question, somehow knew exactly 6,000,000 Jews had “neither hope nor future.“" (The Jewish Western Bulletin, December 11, 1936 and The (London) Times, November 26, 1936)

There's plenty more if you're interested. I did enjoy reading the actual newspaper articles...very informative.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so this fulfillment of prophesy started just before 1900, or how far back do they go?

where was it first mentioned?

[thunder24]

constantine petrovich pobiedonostzeff red handed...?

[Belle]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
so this fulfillment of prophesy started just before 1900, or how far back do they go?

where was it first mentioned?

Do you mean fulfillment of prophesy or the plan to 'fake' fulfillment of this prophesy?

Unfortunately, all the research I had done on this was on my old computer when it crashed and burned...and I foolishly had not backed it up. Will try to back-track and dig up what I can when I have a bit more time...(this is my busiest time of the year work wise)...and this time will make sure to back everything up!

iirc, in my research they began laying the groundwork of the "fulfillment" of the prophecy back to the early 19th century...1832 or 1835...not sure which. It was a meme in search of a place and time to turn it into 'reality'. The goal was always the same...to conquer the Palestinians and set up the nation Israel...with a further goal of conquering the 'world', better known as nwo with them as global leaders. They proclaimed it was ordained by god that they were his chosen people and meant to rule all.

Don't know what their god Yahweh thinks about their deception...according to Mauro Biglino's translation of the old testament Yahweh is dead...

[thunder24]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I'm try to see where ET intervention was involved, through written text, or feeding words into the mind of the translator...


we try to understand when ETs were acting as Gods passing man religions of control and putting their friends in control of leader positions...

Its all creature worship...

'service to self beings' 'worshiping the created physical universe'

Listen paticularly to 1:30-1:45

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XHAXjRPXH2Q

'sacrifice by fire' -around the 2:50 mark

[Rocky_Shorz]

Speaking of Rothschild not Hitler being the true evil behind the Holocaust...

his family hasn't changed...

Ben's link to 3/11 nuclear attack explanation of who was involved

[Belle]

Okay, last one...

Just came across this from http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85432

Rebel of Oz — Nov 30, 2013

For over a century, the Jewish World Almanac has been widely regarded as the most authentic source for the world’s Jewish population numbers. Academics all over the world, including the editors of the Encyclopedia Britannica, used to rely on the accuracy of those numbers. Here is what the World Alamanacs of 1933 and 1948 had to say about the world population of Jews.

World Almanac 1933





World Almanac 1948




In other words, according to the World Almanac the world population of Jews increased (!) between 1933 and 1948 from 15,315,000 to 15,753,000. If the German government under Adolf Hitler had – as alleged – murdered six million Jews those losses should have been reflected in the Jewish population numbers quoted in the World Almanac.

The suspicions raised by above numbers concerning the veracity of the allegations made against the Hitler government are confirmed by the official three-volume report by the International Committee of the Red Cross, released 1948 in Geneva, according to which 272,000 concentration camp inmates died in German custody, about half of them Jews. The following article elaborates.

A Factual Appraisal Of The ‘Holocaust’ By The Red Cross

The Jews And The Concentration Camps: No Evidence Of Genocide

There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War Two and the conditions of Germany’s concentration camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.

This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works: Documents sur l’activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet, explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great value.

The rest of the article can be found at http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85432

[Nanoo Nanoo]

ok so in 1933 there were only half a million Jews in Germany ... So that would mean either 5.5 million immigrated to Germany between 1933 and 1939 or the number of them in the holocaust was actually including other races of people.

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[Milneman]

Ok because we need some lightening up on this, I figured I'd post just a couple more times. Just sayin....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ybuKQf9p5jg

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

[loungelizard]

Posted by aikisaw (here)
I will look at old notes and see if i can find it again as time allows.

Thank you. I'd appreciate that.

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Posted by Milneman (here)
Ok because we need some lightening up on this, I figured I'd post just a couple more times. Just sayin....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ybuKQf9p5jg

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

Good stuff! Glad you're still around...

[Milneman]

I was sharing with nanoo today...

This evening I was sharing with a british expatriate I clean for the problem people seem to be having establishing numbers on this thread. His comments made me smile.

"Who cares, it happened."

[loungelizard]

Posted by Belle (here)
Okay, last one...

Just came across this from http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85432

Belle -

You may care to read post 9 where this "World Almanac Gambit" is explained.
Basically, the figures were wrong. They were revised. That's all.

The above reference to the IRC is also false. Please read post 11.

Therefore, any conclusions drawn from this "information" is spurious.

[loungelizard]

Posted by aikisaw (here)
Here is a link that is good and many topics are debated from a different perspective. Apologies if it is already posted in the thread.
Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust http://codoh.com/

For those who like to be informed about their sources so that they have a rounded picture of what they are dealing with , this site is the work of Bradley Smith, a self confessed holocaust denier and former Media Project Director of the Institute for Historical Review.

Don't get excited by the claim that this site promotes "open debate about the holocaust controversy"…there is no controversy about the holocaust.

[loungelizard]

Aikisaw is kindly going through his notes to find the precise location of this "prophecy" to which a few on this thread are referring, could I throw this open?

Please could someone provide a link to a translation of the Torah, as I haven't been able to track it down.

Without this, all this above posts mentioning this are irrelevant.

Thanks!

[loungelizard]

Posted by Milneman (here)
This is going to be the last thing I have to say in this thread.
A thought experiment:

You go to a new restaurant. This is a restaurant that operates out of a small home, but has been given rave reviews. You order a vegetarian dish with tofu, and to your amazement the dish is absolutely delicious. In fact, it's the best vegetarian dish you've had the chance to eat in your life! Occasionally you find a hair in the vegetables, but this isn't uncommon and you over look it. You find a button on the bottom of your place that looks like it came from a shirt or a sweater, but you overlook that as presentation. You also hear strange banging coming from the kitchen but decide to overlook it, as well strange but delicious smells coming from the kitchen. You are hungry, you are eager for this experience, so you do not give it credence.

However, your companion in taking a sample of the meal you have left on your plate discovers a tooth. In fact, it's a human tooth. Which leads you to believe that instead of a vegetarian meal, you've in fact consumed human flesh.

Outraged, you go back to the waiter who comes to your table, and demand to ask what has happened! The waiter confirms that in fact you have consumed human flesh, and he was under order to serve it to you. You ask who gave those orders, he directs you to the restaurant manager. The manager also confirms, but says he was also acting under orders. He points you to the chef. The chef seems puzzled at your angry reaction. He points out that had you read the fine print, you would've realized that this restaurant serves human flesh under the guises of vegetarian meals as a novelty.

Now your first reaction is going to be that I have presented a thought experiment about the Third Reich. And you are wrong. Well, partly wrong. Keep reading.

Quite often, in philosophical arguments, an individual will present a fact which has no connection to the argument they wish to begin. They will wait for their opponent to respond with what they believe to be the classical response to their suggestion, and then use that as a jumping off point. Basically, instead of taking the higher road, the more difficult road, of presenting a hypothesis and defending it, they scramble to an easier position of attacking a belief: we are now on the defensive to prove the holocaust, to prove our numbers. Those who deny this are on the easier side of this argument, and this is intentional.

Sorry, my inner nanny is saying "SPANK" here. So yeah. Spank.

I believe that is what has happened here. Simply, this is sophism. And I will not play this game any more. I don't know what your real intentions may be, but this thread is destructive.

Oh wow oh wow oh wow. I take my hat off to you, Milneman. Did you actually write that?

Thank you for increasing my intelligence by one little step today - I actually hadn't heard of "sophism"

[Belle]

Sorry for that last post....I was looking for something else when I ran across it and posted without due diligence.

Bottom line for me is that we won't find a smoking gun on Hitler and the Jews...there will be no 'truth' to be found out there...it's been buried, and buried deep, like most of our history.

At the end of the day yesterday I asked myself if this is what I want to focus my energy on...and for me the answer is no.

[araucaria]

Posted by loungelizard (here)
Please could someone provide a link to a translation of the Torah, as I haven't been able to track it down.

Just take a Bible. The Torah or Pentateuch is just the first five books of the Old Testament.

[loungelizard]

Posted by Belle (here)
Sorry for that last post....I was looking for something else when I ran across it and posted without due diligence.

Bottom line for me is that we won't find a smoking gun on Hitler and the Jews...there will be no 'truth' to be found out there...it's been buried, and buried deep, like most of our history.

At the end of the day yesterday I asked myself if this is what I want to focus my energy on...and for me the answer is no.

Thanks for that, Belle - I really appreciate your honesty.

I also completely respect your decision not to engage further with this matter.

For me, it's crucial - albeit excruciatingly painful - to persist in the debate. I cannot stand back.
I have to challenge the opinions being voiced by a few vocal, amateur and pseudo-academic historians, and those with a range of political agenda.

I don't have a hope in hell of changing their minds. But maybe there will be other people glancing at this thread who might start to question a little more.

Thanks!

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Posted by loungelizard (here)
Please could someone provide a link to a translation of the Torah, as I haven't been able to track it down.

Just take a Bible. The Torah or Pentateuch is just the first five books of the Old Testament.

Thanks for the response, araucaria - do you have a chapter and verse? Time is precious! Thanks

[araucaria]

Posted by loungelizard (here)
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Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by loungelizard (here)
Please could someone provide a link to a translation of the Torah, as I haven't been able to track it down.

Just take a Bible. The Torah or Pentateuch is just the first five books of the Old Testament.

Thanks for the response, araucaria - do you have a chapter and verse? Time is precious! Thanks

Sorry, I've not been following this particular discussion. But you have the text readily available; typing in a couple of keywords should get you there in no time.