Ron Paul (2012-2013)

[risveglio]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Ron Paul is great in theory. In practice, if he were to win the presidency and put his deflationary practices into play, he would end up being the most hated president in history, by everyone, including his followers. Gutting entitlements and the military during the depression he would usher in....not pretty. Not saying he doesn't have some good ideas, particularly his anti war stance. Govt is employer of last resort, particularly in hard times. Paul would lead the U.S. right over a cliff, before he had a chance to straighten things out.

What is Paul's stance on mega corporations. Does he give them a free pass?

I don't think you understand Ron Paul. As for his stance on mega corporations, they could not exist without mega government.

[humanalien]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I think I understand what Ron Paul really meant about impeaching Obama. He was saying good luck trying....

A few days ago, I was reading a store receipt and the part that suddenly stood out in my mind was "....the US and DC". I've read this on many other things as well. The implications of this never dawned on me until now.

What I've discovered is that District of Columbia is NOT part of the United States. They are a city/state that answers to no one. Just knowing this makes all the corruption that they've gotten away with make more sense. They break laws with impunity. When anyone tries to convict them, look who they'll stand before: more of the corrupted politicians....No justice will ever be served that way, I can tell you!
Why is it that we answer to THEM? It's not supposed to be like that. We send our delegates to represent us, but as we've seen time and time again, they become just like the rest of them. They fall victim to the corruption there. It's a miracle that people like Ron Paul have managed to retain their honor and integrity in that place. I'm willing to guess that the numbers of honest guys fall way below the criminal ones.

I think Ron Paul knew the truth way before many of us did. I think he was trying to say that there's no way we can change what's going on in DC from inside DC. It would be virtually impossible. If he said that presidents for the last 50 years SHOULD HAVE been impeached, he was hinting "good luck trying to get this one, too....."
The best way to solve this is to get outside of that "10 square mile box" that's DC. We all NEED to know the truth about what's going on there, and even WHAT is there; so we can find a way to rectify it. As we're all starting to see that the Truth refuses to stay hidden now. These corrupted people are being exposed as they're committing their crimes. To them, I say: "Rack 'em, sweethearts. It's just more evidence to convict you with! And you WILL be convicted!"

Maybe Ron Paul will be the first leader of America after all is said and done....

I've known this for a long time but it must have been the way
that you worded your post, that made me think of something.

District of Columbia is NOT part of the United States

If that is true, how is it that they can pass laws for a country
that they are not a part of?

They are a city/state that answers to no one

Following the example of our government, when another
country sneaks into america and kills many of our citizens,
doesn't the government declare a war on that country?

With our government(a foreign land), poisoning us, killing
us, dictating to us of what we can and can't do, don't we
having the right to make war with them? After all, we are
a country with no government other than at the state level.

[AutumnW]

Posted by risveglio (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Ron Paul is great in theory. In practice, if he were to win the presidency and put his deflationary practices into play, he would end up being the most hated president in history, by everyone, including his followers. Gutting entitlements and the military during the depression he would usher in....not pretty. Not saying he doesn't have some good ideas, particularly his anti war stance. Govt is employer of last resort, particularly in hard times. Paul would lead the U.S. right over a cliff, before he had a chance to straighten things out.

What is Paul's stance on mega corporations. Does he give them a free pass?

I don't think you understand Ron Paul. As for his stance on mega corporations, they could not exist without mega government.

Does Ron Paul ever address anti-combines and anti-trust legislation that has been trashed by both Dems and Repugs? True, many large corporations dependent on military funds would suffer. I'd really like to know where he stands philosophically on corporate power. If he has the typical right wing libertarian attitude of, "they made their money, fair and square, and govt shouldn't intervene," he's as irresponsible as other politicians, on that score. The corporations haven't made their money fair and square. They are part of an oligarchy that formed out of a judicial vacuum that formed when laws were simply ignored.

Understand, I think he has integrity and a lot of the right ideas. I am saying that people would end up hating him if he implemented them all, because it would hurt them...a lot.

[Maia Gabrial]

Humanalien,
The biggest deception that's been played on Americans is that the US govt is really a corporation.Pretenders. Liars. They have to keep up appearance or they'll be exposed. Of course they have to do something about what you mentioned. Or there'll be outrage. And that corporation doesn't want to be exposed. At least, not yet.
They have to pretend to be a govt until they can do what they've planned all along: to choke us with complete enslavement, laughing at our confusion. Aren't we seeing a completely out of control govt now? So many angry Americans are saying what they're doing is unConstitutional. And they arrogantly don't care....
I think all of our problems may stem from the fact that it's because they're a city/state AND a corporation. Doesn't it bother you that all this has been going on in front of our noses and never even knew it? Until now.... We've been lied to, humanalien. And it shouldn't sit well with any American....

[humanalien]

I hear ya Maia and it doesn't only bother me,
it's pissing me off.

I can't stand seeing my country(corporation)
going down the tubes and what hurts even
more is the fact that so many people either
don't know whats happening, they won't
admit that it's happening or they just don't
care.

How can we fix that? All the information that
they need to form an opinion on this is on
you tube for all to see but people would rather
watch their favorite movie star or something.

The only way to wake these people up is to have
your own cable channel and start broadcasting
what we need the people to know. Anyone got
a lot of money, to do that? lol

[Cidersomerset]

Ron Paul speaks at opening of Institute for Peace and Prosperity

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4-Z4EHWQ4uM

Published on 18 Apr 2013

Although Ron Paul retired from politics, he hasn't left the conversation: the former
Texas congressman has launched his new think tank -- an institute that will carry on his
ideals to the younger generations.


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Ron Paul launches Institute for Peace and Prosperity

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ioEn0T8_sac

Published on 17 Apr 2013


For the first time since leaving office, Ron Paul returned to the spotlight this week. The
recently retired congressman launched a new foreign-policy educational effort from
Washington on Wednesday called the Institute for Peace and Prosperity. Some fellow
lawmakers past and present - including Walter Jones, Dennis Kucinich, John Duncan,
and Thomas Massie are on the Institute's board, and they are aiming to change more
than policy as RT's Meghan Lopez explains.

[karamba]

Peace! thank you for sharing!

[Cidersomerset]

Ron Paul: NSA Whistleblower Snowden in a 'Hero'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K89ClXEveeo

Published on 10 Jun 2013


Former GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul says the Obama administration's program
to collect data from Americans' phone calls is 'crazy' and that the president's claim that
the administration isn't listening to your phone calls is untrue.





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Ron Paul On CNN Destroys The NSA Over The Verizon Spying Scandal

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SjfS2cAaf1g

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Ron Paul Blasts NSA Defenders On Piers Morgan: 'You're Justifying Dictatorship

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=znTk4XPH1Ys

Published on 10 Jun 2013


"To all of you who defend this nonsense, what should the penalty be for those who
destroy the constitution?" - Ron Paul

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[Cidersomerset]

Ron Paul on Fox taking no 'crap'. !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JHBw-h1XGIU

Published on 11 Jun 2013


Towards the end of an outspoken 24 hours of media appearances, former Rep. Ron
Paul (R-TX) appeared via phone on Fox Business Network with Melissa Francis and
made a bold prediction about NSA leaker Edward Snowden's future. "I'm worried
about somebody in our government who might kill him, with a cruise missile or a
drone missile."

"We live in a bad time where American citizens don't even have rights and that they
can be killed," Paul continued. "But the gentleman is trying to tell the truth about
what's going on, he is not defecting, there's no signs of that happening. It's a
shame we're in an age where people who tell the truth about what the government
is doing gets into trouble."

Paul said he "absolutely" feels confident that Snowden has no intention of selling
more U.S. secrets to a foreign government as some have feared. "I don't think for a
minute that he is a traitor," Paul said. "Everybody is worried about him and what
they're going to do and how they will convict him of treason and how they're going
to kill him, but what about the people who destroy our Constitution? What kind of
penalty are those individuals who take the Second or the Fourth amendment and
destroy it? What do we think about people who assassinate American citizens
without trials and assume that's the law of the land? That's where our problem is."

When presented with the recent polling figures that show 56% of Americans
support the NSA's surveillance practices, Paul suggested those sentiments can be
attributed to "propaganda" along the lines of "if you're not for NSA spying on
people, then you're un-American, you're unpatriotic, you hate America."

[Carmody]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

When presented with the recent polling figures that show 56% of Americans
support the NSA's surveillance practices, Paul suggested those sentiments can be
attributed to "propaganda" along the lines of "if you're not for NSA spying on
people, then you're un-American, you're unpatriotic, you hate America."

Is that like, corporate inspired 'polling'? who's polling was that? what lie was that, which was inserted into the story?

Be careful what you read.

You see, that, as a gentle-like, carefully crafted line like that...inserted into the story, is the thin red line that keeps people under control.

[Cidersomerset]

Is that like, corporate inspired 'polling'? who's polling was that? what lie was that, which was inserted into the story?

Be careful what you read.

You see, that, as a gentle-like, carefully crafted line like that...inserted into the story, is the thin red line that keeps people under control.

Your right I don't take much notice of statistics on most subjects or polls....
A guide at best, fraudulent spin doctoring lies at worst.

[ExomatrixTV]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q-SURVdcBPc

[Snookie]

It would be great if his 30 minute pieces could be picked up by David Icke's The People's Voice channel.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Snookie (here)
It would be great if his 30 minute pieces could be picked up by David Icke's The People's Voice channel.

agree 100%

[Cidersomerset]

I like Ron Paul and have heard some of his speeches of the last few years.
I noticed this vid while looking at something else and thought lets have a quick look
and was amazed how the interview mirrored todays financial and government state
of affairs. From insider dealing, political and military dominance, trilateral
committee, Bilderbergers, To the fact it was common knowledge that the banks
were laundering drug money with government compliance, and much more.
Definitely a fine man and would probably been a good president . Though
the 'Banksters' and elites would never have let that happen.



Ron Paul: The Power Elite -- Must See Classic Interview From 1988

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7MF4-qpqE64

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Greenspan Baffled Over Bitcoin 'Bubble': "To Be Worth Something, It Must Be Backed By Something"

"In order for currencies to be 'exchangeable' they have to be backed by something," is the remarkably ironic initial comment from none other than debaser-of-the-entirely-fiat-dollar Alan Greenspan when asked about the "bubble in bitcoin," by Bloomberg TV's Trish Regan. Unable to "identify the intrinsic" backing of Bitcoin (or see bubbles in equity, credit, real estate, or greater fools) Greenspan is, apparently, capable of identifying Bitcoin "as a bubble," because "there is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted." The farcical double-speak continues as the Maestro does a great job of making Bitcoin (which Ron Paul earlier noted could be the "destroyer of the dollar") look even better than the readily-printed fiat we meddle with every day.

Greenspan explains...

"when we were on the gold standard, [currencies] had intrinisc value which made people willing to exchange their goods and services with no question."
"Alternatively, when we went into "currencies", it was the "backing" of the issuer of the currencies... whose "great credit-standing meant his checks could circulate as money.""
So either its backed by real physical metal with intrinsic value - or the promise of someone...(increasingly politicians of course) with good credit (or a big army)?

"I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted."
Like fiat currencies (just ask the Venezuelans)...

"Individuals with very high net worth and great reputations could create their own currency... because people would be willing to exchange their checks with each other at par."
So coming soon the BuffettCoin or MuskCoin (oh wait reputation), or the GatesCoin?

But, Greenspan sums it all up...

"I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can...
but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble.
Which ironically (perfectly circular) is exactly what Bernanke said about gold...

BERNANKE SAYS `NOBODY REALLY UNDERSTANDS GOLD PRICES'


So - after that - go buy his book!?

And some more color from Ron Paul on Bitcoin as "destroyer of the US Dollar":

Via Mike Krieger's Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

While we believe it is the Federal Reserve that is systematically destroying the US dollar, Bitcoin could merely be the preferred conduit through which fed up citizens decide to express their displeasure with the incredibly corrupt corporatist-facist state being shoved down our throats by a handful of insane and greedy oligarchs. Interesting comments nonetheless. From CNN Money:

Imagine a world in which you can buy anything in secret. No banks. No fees. No worries inflation will make today’s money worth less tomorrow.

The digital currency Bitcoin promises all these things. And while it’s far from achieving any of them — its value is unstable and it’s rarely used — some have high hopes.

“There will be alternatives to the dollar, and this might be one of them,” said former U.S. congressman Ron Paul. If people start using bitcoins en masse, “it’ll go down in history as the destroyer of the dollar,” Paul added.

It’s unlikely that Bitcoin would replace the dollar or other government-controlled currencies. But it could serve as a kind of universal alternative currency that is accepted everywhere around the globe. Concerned about the dollar’s inflation? Just move your cash to bitcoins and use them to pay your bills instead. Tired of hefty credit card fees? Bitcoin allows transactions that bypass banks.

“That’s the holy grail for people who believe in freer markets and currency,” said Adam Gurri, a libertarian economics writer in New York.

There are no middlemen charging fees to move money between users. You can transfer bitcoins — even infinitesimally small fractions of one — directly to others’ digital wallets.

But don’t expect governments and banks to let Bitcoin take over so easily. Financial institutions will lose business if people stop using their payment systems, and central banks like the U.S. Federal Reserve would lose their ability to help slow and speed up economic activity. Paul expects banks to lobby and authorities to crack down.

“Governments absolutely demand a monopoly on money and credit. They’re not going to give it up easily,” Paul warned. “They will come down hard.”


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1...cked-something

[Lifebringer]

Bit coin people have a right to spend their earning any ways they see fit. If the WS investment firms and banks are rigged, where they can borrow on our dime, then guess what?

No dimes, just bitcoin movement and life goes on. Even city circulation between population for merchandise by American Businesses and Mom and Pop entrepeneur start up, auto repairs and such. The possibilities are endless.

[ponda]

Interestingly there has been no real apparent effort to try to shutdown Bit Coin by the powers who think they are.Wonder why this is ??

[Flash]

This is funny, we have been told that there would be an international unique currency, done by PTB, that our money would be entirely electronic and controllable by PTB, and here we are with bitcoins.

Although actually they are more managed by mafias of all kinds and have been stolen in mass last week, they are at least not controlled by a central government. I am not sure of that at all.

I do have the impression that we are driven head first into the electronic new currency that is in fact one single international currency as well, and we are enjoying it because it is not controlled by the banks???!!! We are in for a surprise I think.

Anyhow, we also learned that is was easy to steal.

If Bernanke - sorry Greenspan, ask once again on what it is based, we could answer we took example on the US dollar, based on hot air.

[Hervé]

Posted by Flash (here)
This is funny, we have been told that there would be an international unique currency, done by PTB, that our money would be entirely electronic and controllable by PTB, and here we are with bitcoins.

Although actually they are more managed by mafias of all kinds and have been stolen in mass last week, they are at least not controlled by a central government. I am not sure of that at all.

I do have the impression that we are driven head first into the electronic new currency that is in fact one single international currency as well, and we are enjoying it because it is not controlled by the banks???!!! We are in for a surprise I think.

Anyhow, we also learned that is was easy to steal.

If Bernanke - sorry Greenspan, ask once again on what it is based, we could answer we took example on the US dollar, based on hot air.

Amen!!!

Controlled opposition anyone?

... :

From: http://henrymakow.com/confessions_of_a_dupe_me.html :

[...]

YOUNG MAN IN SEARCH OF IDENTITY

I was 18 in 1968 and "looking for my identity." I was looking for it because they had taken away God and religion. They had taken away gender (masculinity) and family. Naively, I sought my identity in "community." First, I investigated Israel but sensed something wrong with Zionism. Then I devoted myself to Canadian nationalism, majoring in Canadian literature. Little did I suspect I was joining a phony opposition.

In the wake of the 1988 election over North American free trade, I attended a conference of Left-leaning nationalist groups in Ottawa. We had lost. The purpose was to decide on the strategy going forward.

Three things struck me as odd.

1) Fellow organizers here in Winnipeg, who were actually Communists who infiltrated the labor movement, didn't want me to go. I was puzzled that sincere activists wouldn't want to include all the talent (or even money) they could find.

2) I was struck by the demeanor of the leftist professors and activists at the Conference. They didn't seem angry or disappointed by our loss. Quite the opposite. There was a palpable sense of smug satisfaction. They liked their "performance" and were content to return to misleading naive students. These pious people make over $100K "championing the poor" and "fighting the establishment."

Finally,

3) During the meeting I suggested some militant actions to continue the fight against free trade. The chair of the meeting, Maude Barlow, who is still the chair of the "Council of Canadians" verbally sidelined me by promising to discuss the matter personally later. She never sought me out.


Maude Barlow

When I approached her, she said she was busy. l had been "finessed" by a pro.

CONCLUSIONS

Clearly the liberal and socialist "left" is part of the phony opposition. They don't represent the people. They are Masons and part of the Masonic two-step leading to banker world government. The "establishment" is complicit in the enslavement of society.

Similarly in the US and Europe, all political parties are run by Masons and ruled by the Rothschild cartel. I doubt if any individual or group gains visibility unless they are puppets.

Our political and cultural life can be compared to the movie "The Truman Show." We are the Jim Carrey character. Everything is orchestrated and "under control."

Certainly Ron Paul fits the category of phony opposition. He is a Mason. His wife is a Mason, Eastern Star. His daughters are Masons, Rainbow girls.

The John Birch Society does great research but apparently they were started by the Rockefellers who gave the founder a sweet deal for his grape juice company.

The purpose of the phony opposition is to co-opt the opposition and discourage any genuine grass roots political movement from starting. Their mission also is to fight trivial battles and distract us from the stealth establishment of world government. Remember the year the Republicans spent trying to impeach Bill Clinton over Monica Lewinski? Government ground to a halt.

Do we have any real leaders? You can recognize them if they are marginalized and anathema to the mass media. Our real leaders are the people they slander, bankrupt and imprison or kill.

--

My source on Canadian Nationalism: "Rockefeller, Rothschild and Mel Hurtig: An Examination of the Committee for an Independent Canada"
a 1972 article by "The Canadian League of Rights."

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Maude Barlow's UN Agenda

(Ron Paul in the checkered pants, in the 1980's.)

First Comment from Dan:

They've reduced nationalist consciousness to the level of sports. Franklin Roosevelt liked to refer to himself as 'the quarterback'.

What a joke - to learn that Ron Paul's wife and daughters are Eastern Star. I remember an internet radio host asked him point blank, "have you ever been a member of a secret society?" That was 2007. Ron gave a little laugh and said, "I was a member of a fraternity in college, but that was just more like playing pranks on each other and horsing around". That's not exactly an honest answer, but it sounds like one.

Now I see that the talk show host was in on it, because the way he asked the question left room to dodge giving an answer. I really don't think Ron or any politicians goes on cold interviews. Their handlers will require a list of the questions so they can prepare answers. A media entertainer is in the position of weakness because they want to get hot or controversial names on their show.

Later I saw a video of Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr's TV show back in 1988 when he was that year's Libertarian candidate. Aside from being two decades younger, he displayed a completely different personality. He was aggressive and hostile. Too much contrast with the Ron Paul RELOVELUTION of the recent past. He definitely playing a character, just like an actor. [1]

Ron was a pied piper who made people think he was a nationalist Constitutionalist when he's really a disciple of Ayn Rand. Rand was Rothschild propagandist. Next time you see a bumper sticker that says "WHO IS JOHN GALT?" you'll know it was Philip Rothschild. Rand was groomed by him before she was sent to America to preach the Rothschild evangel, with The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged.

I was always the skeptical devil's advocate about so many conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds, But when it was revealed that Ron Paul named his son after Ayn Rand, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[1] Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988