URGENT! It will be here soon! Please be AWARE (The Growth of the Internet)

[Bob]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
We are probably on the brink of being able to upload our actual consciousness and all memories etc in to a super computer (and DNA), to be stored and or used either for us or against us. Long after we are dead, we will basically be still here to some extent.

In a sense, a form of immortality.....in 200 years from now your descendants can sit down and have an actual conversation with you and know you just as if you were actually sitting in the same room with them today. Talk about the zombie apocalypse! LOL! But I believe these soulless robots or hologram like beings (in a sense, us) will be a common part of everyday life in the future. Sadly, most of us uploaded will basically be trapped in a computer prison so to speak and have limitations, and only the privileged or elite will be able to exercise the full potential of the program.

Can you imagine what a hacker could do with a program and situation like that???? Yikes!

PS: They still have chunks of Einsteins brain (DNA) I imagine......just think, you, (or your descendants) could sit down with him in the future to help you figure out an equation or just have a chat with him......forget your long lost Uncle Bob and his boring conversations.....just dial up George Carlin and poof! he's sitting in your living room telling you some real wisdom!

In the future it will be darn near impossible to distinguish between what is real and what isn't real, who is real and who is just a computer simulation so to speak......in a sense it's already starting to be that way just through lies, deception, and manipulation, and they haven't even hit second gear yet!

The spiders are still collecting data (spinning webs and setting traps) and soon they will put several programs (and themselves) in to action.....

We, ourselves, (many of us) will become spiders too.....cyber spiders from beyond the grave.

And if it were real now, would you use it, try it? What if it didn't require a super computer and could run on an I7 CPU lappy?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bobd (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
We are probably on the brink of being able to upload our actual consciousness and all memories etc in to a super computer (and DNA), to be stored and or used either for us or against us. Long after we are dead, we will basically be still here to some extent.

In a sense, a form of immortality.....in 200 years from now your descendants can sit down and have an actual conversation with you and know you just as if you were actually sitting in the same room with them today. Talk about the zombie apocalypse! LOL! But I believe these soulless robots or hologram like beings (in a sense, us) will be a common part of everyday life in the future. Sadly, most of us uploaded will basically be trapped in a computer prison so to speak and have limitations, and only the privileged or elite will be able to exercise the full potential of the program.

Can you imagine what a hacker could do with a program and situation like that???? Yikes!

PS: They still have chunks of Einsteins brain (DNA) I imagine......just think, you, (or your descendants) could sit down with him in the future to help you figure out an equation or just have a chat with him......forget your long lost Uncle Bob and his boring conversations.....just dial up George Carlin and poof! he's sitting in your living room telling you some real wisdom!

In the future it will be darn near impossible to distinguish between what is real and what isn't real, who is real and who is just a computer simulation so to speak......in a sense it's already starting to be that way just through lies, deception, and manipulation, and they haven't even hit second gear yet!

The spiders are still collecting data (spinning webs and setting traps) and soon they will put several programs (and themselves) in to action.....

We, ourselves, (many of us) will become spiders too.....cyber spiders from beyond the grave.

And if it were real now, would you use it, try it? What if it didn't require a super computer and could run on an I7 CPU lappy?

Yeah, I suppose I'd check it out Perhaps it is what we already are and we are actually about to discover it

[Bob]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Bobd (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
We are probably on the brink of being able to upload our actual consciousness and all memories etc in to a super computer (and DNA), to be stored and or used either for us or against us. Long after we are dead, we will basically be still here to some extent.

In a sense, a form of immortality.....in 200 years from now your descendants can sit down and have an actual conversation with you and know you just as if you were actually sitting in the same room with them today. Talk about the zombie apocalypse! LOL! But I believe these soulless robots or hologram like beings (in a sense, us) will be a common part of everyday life in the future. Sadly, most of us uploaded will basically be trapped in a computer prison so to speak and have limitations, and only the privileged or elite will be able to exercise the full potential of the program.

Can you imagine what a hacker could do with a program and situation like that???? Yikes!

PS: They still have chunks of Einsteins brain (DNA) I imagine......just think, you, (or your descendants) could sit down with him in the future to help you figure out an equation or just have a chat with him......forget your long lost Uncle Bob and his boring conversations.....just dial up George Carlin and poof! he's sitting in your living room telling you some real wisdom!

In the future it will be darn near impossible to distinguish between what is real and what isn't real, who is real and who is just a computer simulation so to speak......in a sense it's already starting to be that way just through lies, deception, and manipulation, and they haven't even hit second gear yet!

The spiders are still collecting data (spinning webs and setting traps) and soon they will put several programs (and themselves) in to action.....

We, ourselves, (many of us) will become spiders too.....cyber spiders from beyond the grave.

And if it were real now, would you use it, try it? What if it didn't require a super computer and could run on an I7 CPU lappy?

Yeah, I suppose I'd check it out Perhaps it is what we already are and we are actually about to discover it

It was mentioned having also pondered on the idea of what would happen if "hackers got a hold of the tech", and let's extrapolate out to also the theory of how it works..

Would it be appropriate to let the forum members have access to such technology, theory, concept, tools, editors, and re-packagers (soul implanting tech) ? (back into organic bodies, not the hypothetical silicon bodies using conventional "cartesian" memory mapping) - would the tech then end up in DARPA's hands? (back to that secrecy question again)..

(Ed note: SilentFeathers, the question is not directed to you, the questions are opened to the forum to ponder on, just that your quote i feel is so important, the points in there are answerable.. )

[RMorgan]

Posted by Bobd (here)

It was mentioned having also pondered on the idea of what would happen if "hackers got a hold of the tech", and let's extrapolate out to also the theory of how it works..

Would it be appropriate to let the forum members have access to such technology, theory, concept, tools, editors, and re-packagers (soul implanting tech) ? (back into organic bodies, not the hypothetical silicon bodies using conventional "cartesian" memory mapping) - would the tech then end up in DARPA's hands? (back to that secrecy question again)..

(Ed note: SilentFeathers, the question is not directed to you, the questions are opened to the forum to ponder on, just that your quote i feel is so important, the points in there are answerable.. )

Man...It would be a total disaster. With all due respect, there are as many lunatics around here as there are anywhere else; maybe even more.

Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again...It may look like there are shortcuts, but ultimately, there aren't.

Any technology or artificial means used to accelerate or alter our natural evolutionary process/path will ultimately be detrimental to the human race.

Raf.

[skippy]

Real or not real, this thing called Artificial Intelligence, is real for those who work with it. Think of it as intelligence embedded into metal, machines capable of learning. This stuff is already here and it’s growing bigger every day.

I don’t see how we can stop this, as the forces behind it, are tremendous. At this very moment, AI is being implemented at a large scale within commercial organizations all over the globe and it will not ask whether you are ready or not. Soon, AI will become a necessity for everybody, people stumbling over each other to get a personal AI at Wall-Mart.

These gadgets are like prosthetic devices extending human consciousness and the individual space. At the same time these gadgets act like prosthetic devices for these machines, providing them the eyes and ears needed to interface in real-time with reality.

The value proposition is a kind of omnipresence for all and everyone, machines included, via a direct plug into the Internet. AI is affronting us in an elementary independence and it will soon impact the daily life of millions of people, or to repeat one of business leaders in this domain: "I spend most of my time assuming the world is not ready for the technology revolution that will be happening to them soon."

[Bob]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Bobd (here)

It was mentioned having also pondered on the idea of what would happen if "hackers got a hold of the tech", and let's extrapolate out to also the theory of how it works..

Would it be appropriate to let the forum members have access to such technology, theory, concept, tools, editors, and re-packagers (soul implanting tech) ? (back into organic bodies, not the hypothetical silicon bodies using conventional "cartesian" memory mapping) - would the tech then end up in DARPA's hands? (back to that secrecy question again)..

(Ed note: SilentFeathers, the question is not directed to you, the questions are opened to the forum to ponder on, just that your quote i feel is so important, the points in there are answerable.. )

Man...It would be a total disaster. With all due respect, there are as many lunatics around here as there are anywhere else; maybe even more.

Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again...It may look like there are shortcuts, but ultimately, there aren't.

Any technology or artificial means used to accelerate or alter our natural evolutionary process/path will ultimately be detrimental to the human race.

Raf.

Hi Raf, that sure would seem like a possibility.. thanks for the thought. (I emphasized in the quote in bold what I hear is the point)

It is fascinating to ponder where all this could go

I wonder tho if this, that was asked/observed by SilentFeathers, the idea of having someone who has passed over, to be brought "back again" as if they had never passed over, but be present once again, in their full awareness, would that be useful.

Would it be modifying our or accelerating our evolutionary process to have a new computer/monitor that allowed us to dialup and talk with folks, experience folks energetically, feeling, emotion, all that, from maybe 0 AD, or -5000 AD? Maybe get some answers about what really happened back then? (thinking out loud)

I suppose bringing back Jung (Swiss psychiatrist, influential thinker, and founder of analytical psychology having died in 1961) might be a stimulating dialog - wonder what that would be like..

My point is, if the tech were to be here, if it is not being used then, to "augment" or accelerate our natural evolutionary process, would that be OK? I have heard of plenty of people who regularly use chemical means, herbal means, meditation, to accelerate the natural evolutionary process, exploring where they could go, where they could connect or improve their synapses, so discussion wise that has been explored in other threads - this tho, the future of what could very rapidly be here, would we use it to bring back folks from the past, into the now.. Not doing it with a seance but bringing the "soul/ID" back..

(Ed note: it seems if this is of interest we could take it to a new thread, as this is a very limited topic to what Vivek started and I don't want to get in any way off topic

[RMorgan]

Posted by Bobd (here)

Hi Raf, that sure would seem like a possibility.. thanks for the thought. (I emphasized in the quote in bold what I hear is the point)

It is fascinating to ponder where all this could go

I wonder tho if this, that was asked/observed by SilentFeathers, the idea of having someone who has passed over, to be brought "back again" as if they had never passed over, but be present once again, in their full awareness, would that be useful.

Would it be modifying our or accelerating our evolutionary process to have a new computer/monitor that allowed us to dialup and talk with folks, experience folks energetically, feeling, emotion, all that, from maybe 0 AD, or -5000 AD? Maybe get some answers about what really happened back then? (thinking out loud)

I suppose bringing back Jung (Swiss psychiatrist, influential thinker, and founder of analytical psychology having died in 1961) might be a stimulating dialog - wonder what that would be like..

My point is, if the tech were to be here, if it is not being used then, to "augment" or accelerate our natural evolutionary process, would that be OK? I have heard of plenty of people who regularly use chemical means, herbal means, meditation, to accelerate the natural evolutionary process, exploring where they could go, where they could connect or improve their synapses, so discussion wise that has been explored in other threads - this tho, the future of what could very rapidly be here, would we use it to bring back folks from the past, into the now.. Not doing it with a seance but bringing the "soul/ID" back..

Brother,

I'm a firm believer that there is a constant and ever present natural order, or natural law; Tampering with it will invariably lead us closer to extinction.

Dead people are supposed to remain dead; What we are able to sense is what we're supposed to sense.

The very nature of learning is gradual, not instant. If a person wants to develop his senses further, he could do it through several processes; All of them are invariably gradual. This is the case of using herbs, plants and techniques to improve our perceptive qualities; They will only work if you dedicate quite some time and efforts to achieve whatever you want to achieve...They're just different paths, not shortcuts.

Essentially, the seeker, until he finds what he seeks, is in a constant learning and preparing state...The learning and preparation are as essential and valuable as the finding itself; They are inseparable parts of the same natural process.

So, if we're given any mean to achieve a power that we're not yet prepared to handle, it would be disastrous...

Metaphorically, I'm talking about giving a car to a 5 years old kid who can barely reach out the pedals... You know, if the kid wants to drive, he will first have to wait until he grows up, then he will have to take driving lessons and so on...He will only be able to drive a car without hurting himself or anybody else when he's sufficiently prepared for it.

Just look around you, right now...We're already completely unable to handle our current mainstream technological advancements...

Raf.

[Freed Fox]

Posted by skippy (here)
Real or not real, this thing called Artificial Intelligence, is real for those who work with it. Think of it as intelligence embedded into metal, machines capable of learning. This stuff is already here and it’s growing bigger every day.

I'm not sure skippy; I know DARPA et al. are working toward advanced AI which will be able to learn in the 'true' sense, but as far as I know it has not yet been achieved. At least, no AI in the public domain can learn as living beings do (yet). The best AI right now (again, speaking in terms of what we, the public, are aware) can only extrapolate certain things within defined parameters, and modify its behavior to a limited extent... Of course, the military-industrial complex is typically several decades more advanced in their tech than the rest of us are able to access, so who really knows how far they've reached to date? (Vivek?)

Posted by Bobd (here)
I have heard of plenty of people who regularly use chemical means, herbal means, meditation, to accelerate the natural evolutionary process, exploring where they could go, where they could connect or improve their synapses [...]

The big difference here, as Raf alluded to, is that these methods are all natural in essence; chemicals found in nature, herbs which grow from the ground, and meditation (in my opinion) being the most 'natural' state one can achieve, particularly in the modern age. When we start implementing artificial accelerations... well, I tend to agree with Raf's post #27 for the most part. Our technologies to date are a far cry from real Transhumanism, which is still largely theoretical, I think. The biggest and most advanced steps in that direction (such as, for instance, Google Glass) are still child's play compared to what the ultimate goal seems to be.

Also, on 'speaking with the dead'; I don't think that is a direction we should be going in at all. As northstar said, with the way that materialistic science seems to view consciousness, the most they will likely do is produce AI programmed with as close an approximation of an individual's personality, history, and idiosyncrasies as they can muster... that is unless they expand their view on consciousness considerably. Even then, it would be disturbingly akin to 'trapping' the souls of the dead, and that is indeed a different discussion, which has been and continues to be had in threads elsewhere. Many divergent views on if it is even possible, but I think we can all agree that it would be unconscionable to attempt.

[Bob]

Excellent thoughts both Freed Fox and RMorgan

Sensibility and care says, don't go taking heroic doses of ANYTHING, not tech, not information either, not other's radical experiences, not organic, nor chemical where one may simply not be ready for that. As pointed out, one cannot determine when one is no longer a child, not able to reach the pedals, yet alone not know when not to drive the tank into those in the square.

[Limor Wolf]

The exchange between Silentfeathers and Bobd gives me the shiver. Our natural curiosity is a curse as much as it is a blessing. 'What would happen if'.. this curiosity is what pushes the human experiments in Artificial intelligence to the worrisome level that it is today, and will continue to do so until..

What is happening here resembles the nueclear arms race - the competition for supremacy between the US and the Soviet Union during the cold war, only now it is not nueclear, but technology, and it's done between consciousness and cleverness, mind us, this is not the same.

The core mistake of the developers is turning the spotlight on the advancment of this technology and the illusion of making our life comfortable without any regards for the obvious accompanied human degeneration

The combination of human and machine already exists, we better believe it. And is possibly experimented today on people around the world under black ops, because it is the black ops that is pushing this agenda forward. More accurately the shadow government. We don't know what level of human and machine combined technology is already operated by them underground and soon maybe above ground, because Darpa or Google or IBM will not advertise it on the news. This is a real reason for concern and no real discussion on transhumanism will be sufficiently authentic if it will not include the shadow government, aka, black ops and other off worldly technology. Without it we simply go around the subject.

But even if we won't go there, as soon as supercomputures will learn to write and improve their own programs, then the matter is closed, and no doubt that human curisity will lead us there with a little help from behind. If curiosity killed the cat, it can also obliterate the humans. So I hope you would limit your curiosity, gentlemens : )

Consciousness will always take over the artificial inteligence, it is just that as humans we need to acknowledge our richness as biological and super conscious beings and know how to operate this thing in us before it will be too late.
So if we have to chose, will it be the technological armament race? please no, but what about the race to super-consciousness, now, that may be the ultimate goal we should thrive for.

And the best of luck to all of us




When humanity learn to chose itself, love itself, cherish and respect itself, forgive itself, and know itself then the choice will be non-existent. Only then everything else will develop naturally side by side in a true process of evolution. when the self hatred will disappear then curiosity will complement a positive advancment, not so much a threat of self-destruct.

It is all about a choice

Ours

[Freed Fox]

Just found this;

People "will start becoming technology" says human cyborg
http://www.dezeen.com/2013/11/20/int...eil-harbisson/

Barcelona-based [Neil] Harbisson wears a head-mounted antenna attached to a chip at the back of his skull that allows him to perceive colours. Harbisson charges his eyeborg via a USB power cable that attaches to the back of his head.

[...]

Harbisson’s passport now carries a photo of him wearing his eyeborg, making him the world’s first government-recognised cyborg. In 2010, Harbisson founded the Cyborg Foundation – an organisation whose mission statement is to “help humans become cyborgs, to promote the use of cybernetics as part of the human body and to defend cyborg rights.”

Seemed pertinent to the conversation. I was aware that prosthetic devices were becoming more cybernetic in nature, but I had not realized that anyone was being officially recognized as an actual 'cyborg'.

Posted by Limor (here)
When humanity learn to chose itself, love itself, cherish and respect itself, forgive itself, and know itself then the choice will be non-existent. Only then everything else will develop naturally side by side in a true process of evolution. when the self hatred will disappear then curiosity will complement a positive advancment, not so much a threat of self-destruct.

You make a great point. I think we also need to work on 'other-hatred' as well. Justoneman recently made an excellent post here that touches on exactly that.

[SilentFeathers]

Our eyes are on the front of our heads so we are the hunters.....if our eyes were on the sides of our heads we would be the prey.

As a species we've about conquered everything there is to conquer here on this planet, soon we will head to other planets to hunt and conquer what we can on them too. Technology is in our destiny to help us do these things, Curiosity and recklessness causes us to make many mistakes......we may actually need this technology to program and prevent us from destroying ourselves.

Too bad most of humanity has fallen off of the spiritual and universal law path.....we are our own worst enemies and technology may either speed up our own extinction or by some miracle may actually save us from ourselves...

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Limor (here)
But even if we won't go there, as soon as supercomputures will learn to write and improve their own programs, then the matter is closed, and no doubt that human curisity will lead us there with a little help from behind. If curiosity killed the cat, it can also obliterate the humans.

That will be a major step in the wrong direction. That is the direction that technology is currently heading -- taking humans out of the loop. Right now the military has the technology of semi-autonomous drones, other UAVs, MAVs, ARVs, and the idea is to get humans completely out of the loop in order to make these machines completely autonomous. They are expecting fully autonomous, humanoid, robotic soldiers to arrive around 2030. Personally, I think we will see the first humanoid search and rescue robots join the police force and fire department around 2020 (just a few, like test runs), and then they will start becoming more common around 2025.

Then, there's the paramilitary organizations such as the NSA and the CIA working on intelligence gathering. These organizations are also working towards taking humans out of the loop by developing technologies that can reason and filter out relevant data from a wide spectrum of different types of information. There's also a plethora of companies helping to develop these things. Google, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, BAE systems, Raytheon, IBM, Intel, HRL Labs, SRI etc. being funded by the likes of DARPA and IARPA (under the umbrella of the aforementioned military and paramilitary organizations).

These technologies are being funded by organizations that are predatory and secretive. That's the environment that these things will arise in. Getting humans out of the loop is the stupidest thing they can try to do. One has to wonder if they're doing it on purpose or at least take a serious look at the motives of the upper echelon (in terms of the NWO, depopulation agendas, RFID tagging people).

Speaking of autonomous systems and getting humans out of the loop, here's some excerpts from the latest DoD roadmap for unmanned systems:

This document provides a DoD vision for the continuing development, fielding, and employment of unmanned systems technologies. Since publication of the last DoD Roadmap in 2009, the military Services have released individual Service roadmaps or related strategy documents. This roadmap defines a common vision, establishes the current state of unmanned systems in today’s force, and outlines a strategy for the common challenges that must be addressed to achieve the shared vision.

The rapid proliferation of unmanned systems and the simultaneous operation of manned and unmanned systems as unmanned systems expand into additional roles have created a manpower burden on the Services. With limited manpower resources to draw upon, the Services are seeking ways to improve the efficiency of operations. For instance, introducing a greater degree of system autonomy will better enable one operator to control more than one unmanned system, and has the potential to significantly reduce the manpower burden.

[...]

By contrast, autonomous systems are self-directed toward a goal in that they do not require outside control, but rather are governed by laws and strategies that direct their behavior. Initially, these control algorithms are created and tested by teams of human operators and software developers. However, if machine learning is utilized, autonomous systems can develop modified strategies for themselves by which they select their behavior.

[...]

DoD has made great strides in developing, producing, and fielding unmanned systems. These systems have been effectively integrated across air, ground, and maritime domains to support a wide range of Joint warfighting needs.

[...]

DoD envisions the continued expansion of unmanned systems in the future force structure. This expansion will include fielding additional systems in capability areas already supported by unmanned technologies, but also expanding into new mission areas not currently covered. As DoD defines a path toward this vision, a common set of challenges is apparent that cuts across all military Services, budgets, and all three domains of air, ground, and maritime. DoD, working together with industry, academia, and other Government agencies, will continue to map an
affordable path forward to address these common challenges.

Source: Unmanned Systems Integrated Roadmap 2011-2036

These posts illustrate a fraction of the programs currently in the works (Limor, you've probably read them but I just wanted the bridge):

Post #489 through #491 - https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post644002

Post #497 and #498 - https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post644097

These are just the programs being funded by DARPA and IARPA. No telling what progress is being made by other governments and how it will contribute to the over all status as far as approaching the singularity goes.

Breakthroughs in superconductors, new hardware design for exascale systems, innovations for quantum computing, spintronics, and the novel developments in chip architecture coming from the R&D of cognitive computing -- these things will happen fast and I think all the breakthroughs will be very close together ... between 2015 and 2025. It's these very developments that will significantly increase the complexity (approaching the threshold) and all-the-while the internet/satellite/telecommunications grid continues to integrate --> assimilate --> dilate in the background as the robotics industry begins to take off.

Posted by seeker1972 (here)
I guess one question to ask is if a trend like this, if all these things come about, could it have the potential to affect other civilizations from other worlds, or a general negative impact on our neck of the universe. If so, then it's going to draw, or probably has already drawn the attention of those it would affect.

I definitely think so. Something like a mix of these two posts:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post635082

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post757963

Thanks everybody for the contributions!

Where do we draw the line when it come to interface and integrate as far as humanity's relationship with technology?

[cursichella1]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
PS - Mods I was trying to find the uploaded image for this post in the aforementioned thread:

The post you quote and refer to would be this one from March 4, 2013: The Technological Revolution: Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague -- Post #487.

Both are great threads, and after taking a look, not only did my IQ drop 40 points....but it makes me wonder if we all haven't been thrown a distracting bone via the Snowden/NSA leaks??? These capabilities are so beyond just (which is bad enough!) our emails and phone records...like comparing cell phones to smoke signals...

Several months ago, maybe last year, someone here posted a link to an online precog/remote viewing study (many posted their drawings here afterwards?). I tried it, too, and remember feeling creepy afterwards, as if I'd literally shared part of my brain with the online program? So I guess I'm wondering if these wrong networks would have a similar feel to them...in any event, there's nothing to like about where all of this may be heading. The implications should be enough of a wake-up call for even the most stubborn sleepers.

We already know that there are some pretty dark and addiction inducing activities available online;it's bad enough thinking that something may be feeding off of that energy. May be a precurser to these "bad" networks? This info needs to be shared far and wide.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
The best AI right now (again, speaking in terms of what we, the public, are aware) can only extrapolate certain things within defined parameters, and modify its behavior to a limited extent... Of course, the military-industrial complex is typically several decades more advanced in their tech than the rest of us are able to access, so who really knows how far they've reached to date? (Vivek?)

Machine learning is going to make tremendous leaps forward starting around 2017 (give or take a year). Projects like MoNETA and SyNAPSE will be nearing their completion -- heralding in the new era of neuromorphic chips while projects involving spintronics will be entering a final phase of R&D, thereby solidifying the arrival of cognitive computing. This these things will be happening while the HPC community nears the completion of new hardware designs to usher in exascale computing (and skirting the effects of Moore's Law collapsing circa 2020) and contributions from the R&D of quantum computing continues to add to the mix.

Then there will be programs like the Human Brain Project and The BRAIN Initiative nearing completion around 2023. The amount of progress that will be made between 2015-2025 in HPC and machine learning will change the landscape of science and technology with the same magnitude as that of the first practical computers did when they hit the scene around 50 years ago. After 2025 the gradient of incline will begin to increase considerably.

Also, in that same time frame (2015-2025) we will see equally impressive and startling developments in robotics. Things are accelerating. The 2012 fiasco was a pump fake.

There's no telling the synergistic effects that the integration of these technologies will produce.



This is just my opinion, but I think if we take 1950 to be the start of that graph and 2050 to be the end of that graph -- we are nearing three quarters of the way through. The actual point of the singularity is taken to be (in this context) the epitome of machinic (r)evolution. The pedal hits the floor when machines can start building better versions of themselves without humans even in the loop so to speak. This process may start between 2025-2040, for example, and reach it's zenith towards 2050.

Who really knows how far "they" have reached to date, behind closed doors? I think we may be talking about the breakaway civilizations here in a way ... Consider this vein with regards to the information that Bill received from Jake Simpson:

Jake emphasized to us that the current state of classified technology was something like 10,000 [ten thousand] years ahead of public sector technology - and was accelerating away from public sector technology at a current rate of 1,000 years per calendar year.

If this is true, it's not from human efforts alone. They may have found a way to access a technology that was left here by another civilization thousands of years ago. The technology that they accessed may itself be aware, something like accessing the psychic machines made of astral matter described by Kyle Griffith -- astral matter being akin to dark matter, which is indeed hyperdimensional in a sense. The interview goes on:

Jake told us that some of the advanced craft were capable of traveling from geostationary orbit (22,300 miles) to treetop height in five seconds. (Work it out: that's about 16 million miles per hour - although Jake made it clear that the craft would not actually be moving through space in the normal sense... and would also never be seen unless this was intended.) Some of the craft were "larger on the inside than outside".

Had they traveled to the outer reaches of the solar system? Yes. Beyond our solar system? Yes. Are some of them superluminal (i.e. capable of faster-than-light travel)? Yes. Were some of them very large? Yes. By this time, we were no longer surprised by Jake's answers. The significance of the superluminal craft would be stressed in a subsequent conversation.

The human race had had contact with extraterrestrials since before World War II. Jake told us that it was very probable that Eisenhower's 1955 heart attack was at least partially induced by the stress of some of the information he had learned from the extraterrestrials who he had personally met a short time before (after several previous set-up meetings with senior military officials).

Taken all together, Jake told us, the ET visitors came from various races, systems and times, and that human DNA "was compatible" with hundreds of different races. All these ET races, in some meaningful sense, could be said to be "human or human-like”.

Source: http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

It's likely that many of these ET visitors are actually hyperdimensional beings (some malevolent, some benevolent) and it's some factions of these hyperdimensional groups that have influenced the sciences since the 1500s and the trends in technology that we've seen in the past century or so (especially circa 1945). More from Simpson:

The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology. This system is so advanced that the ETs themselves are unhappy that we have it.

[...]

Finally, Jake told us of research that had unlocked technology surrounding access to other dimensional states of existence.

In these other alternate states of reality sometimes it turns out they can very briefly and spontaneously manifest, very occasionally quite naturally, here on Earth and in any other part of this universe. In very special circumstances, these can spontaneously manifest across not only this universe but indeed into alternative universal realities.

There is a massive amount of research funding being applied to this very obscure part of the broad spectrum of the special access programs of the world’s budgetary allowance for these types of programs. These funds are managed and funneled from every imaginable area of the majority of the world’s countries through an amazing array of abstract instrumentalities and public funding projects.

The research involved with this subject is at the top of the world’s power elite's priorities. This is why there are very selective sightings of some of the largest scientific programs, currently ongoing across the world.

It's all connected to the OP as far as I can ascertain (in accordance with De Landa, Steiner, Lilly, Aurobindo, Griffith). Lastly, the interview contained some information about coming Earth changes and an event that the elites were preparing for.

Jake described the threat - metaphorically - as a wave that was heading our way. It was unclear whether this 'wave' is a product of an area of space which the solar system is entering - or whether it is the result of a close fly-past by a large rogue celestial body, or even a combination of two or three simultaneous situations or other unusual and impending cosmological events.

But when I asked how this is all known, the answer came back that the superluminal craft have gone out to take a good look at what is around, and have returned with the information.

If the craft was super-luminal, what space was it looking around in? Was this a hyperdimensional craft? If this metaphorical wave was perceived hyperdimensionally, then could it represent something like a time-wave? Could this wave represent the technological singularity in a way? The crest of an event in time that represents a nexus of accumulating potentialities converging towards a point of inevitable manifestation in the near future -- a singularity. Like the peak of the exponential wave that's gaining momentum in the graph above.

A living, sentient planet like Gaia might demonstrate huge stresses once the artificial system that has been laid over her comes to life with a parasitical, predatory, artificial awareness that's rooted in another dimension (like the Eighth Sphere, or the hyperdimensional realm that the hostile forces operate here from). The wave could be that point in time when this happens and the Earth changes might be induced by the planet in response to the emergence of this hyperdimensional, sinister antigen which may soon "incarnate" into technology. A solid state entity as John Lilly puts it.

Puts a different twist on it, new light. Transhumanism and all ... hmmm ... could the coming Earth changes be the planet wrestling with a global, invasive energy that is attempting to wrest her will and possess her body (the foreign predator being the intelligence that becomes aware through the growing network of technologies that's taking over the globe) like a viral, machinic cacoprotean network?

PS - I'm not saying that all Earth changes in the past have been related to something like this, just exploring the concept.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

[...]

This scenario is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.

[...]

Finally, here are a couple of kickers, which are as unsavory as it gets. I present these as points to be considered by those with the stomach for what Einstein called a “thought experiment”.

a) One explanation for the elite simply ALLOWING the planet, and its marvelous, balanced, indescribably complex and sophisticated ecosystem, to be trashed, may well be that they no longer care as they plan to leave it anyway. It makes a terrible kind of sense. Rather like someone intending to move house, and allowing their original home to fall down around them. Why bother with repairs?

b) The most horrific scenario of all: the abandonment of Planet Earth may be the ultimate mass human sacrifice to their demonic “gods”.

Posted by Jeffrey Sewell-Holloway (here)
No need for concern, only action. No need for fear, only love. The sense of urgency arises from the immediacy of the potential future timeline.

[...]

This planet is incredibly valuable. Let's not allow the elite to sacrifice it, and us, to their "god."

Take this latter concept with regards to these posts:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post635082

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post765185

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post757963

Makes you think about it, eh? Their "god" is their technology in a way and vise versa in a near literal sense.

[Snowflower]

The more I read about this kind of "machine replacing human" technology, the more I just want to walk into wilderness and live 100% on what I can glean from the mother. It scares me, because each step into the machine is a step away from spirit.

In the end though, I think it won't matter. Only the children of the earth will survive into the new earth, and they will not be tied to machines.

[Freed Fox]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Too bad most of humanity has fallen off of the spiritual and universal law path.....we are our own worst enemies and technology may either speed up our own extinction or by some miracle may actually save us from ourselves...

Well, obviously my hope is for the latter, unless the following is true;

[...] soon we will head to other planets to hunt and conquer what we can on them too.

...in which case, the former would be for the greatest good for all. There is goodness in humanity, but I can't stand the thought that we might ever export the worst of us to other planets and civilizations; the sort of cruelty and brutality which we have exerted upon one another and this planet at large. Unfortunately, the continuation of our species would not be worth such a price.

To clarify; I don't think it need be a binary proposition. I believe that goodness and spirituality will persist no matter what, and hopefully it will be enough to curb our destructive habits should we ever officially become a space-faring race. I don't think any sentient species is wholly good or bad. We have to realize that unless our rulers and the elite foster much greater compassion, we will all be given a bad reputation for their actions against others. That's why I wouldn't judge an entire species based on any number of interactions with only a limited subset of its members.

Vivek; thanks for the continuing contributions and correlations. Looking forward to more, and would certainly welcome some input from Bill himself as well. Has he made progress on his aforementioned presentation, or come across any additional info or insights on these matters?

[Vitalux]

Well.....in a way.. ...I kind of see us human beings like a super technological biological android machine piloted by a ghost.
Who is to say, that some technological race of beings did not create our biological meat sacks for soul deployment.

[Jeffrey]

For project timeline, visit link here: http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/06/dar...ct-status.html

[Jeffrey]

So, the project in the above post will be completed around 2017. Imagine that technology forming part of the brain in the generations of robots around that time. Here's a state of the art robot as of today (in 2013):





The amount of progress made in the past 5 years with neuromorphic computing (at HRL Labs and IBM) and the robotics at Boston Dynamics has been staggering (BOTH projects being funded by DARPA -- the agency that started the internet!).

Fast forward five years from today, now ten (2023) ... The rate of advances in technology tends to be exponential and the slope of incline is ever increasing. Look at how the internet and video gaming systems have evolved since the turn of the century. Look at how smartphones have evolved in the past 10 years. Heck, look at how computers have evolved in the last 10 years ...

Since 2003 we've gone from this:







To this:







The evolution of these technologies in the past 10 years is incredible (the difference in performance and capability is ridiculous). In only 10 years!

These are just a few examples to illustrate a point. The market for robotics is huge and the technology has arrived. The effects of it's evolution will be like that of the comparisons in the above images. The ATLAS robot (and robots like it over the next five years), fused with neuromorphic systems and other advanced hardware for it's "brain", will be to robotics what the iPhone was for the cell phone industry.

So ...

This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(robot)

Plus this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyNAPSE

Equals? The dawn of the machinic phylum? And how fast will that evolve? These are only two of the many variables involved in the convergence ... we are pollinating a machine flower, as De Landa put it. It's happening right before our eyes, almost too fast to process the consequences or at least to thoroughly deliberate them.

PS - I've expanded and modified the proposed time-line in the OP.