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    Default Re: Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?

    It's weird how we were talking about MKultra and monarch in here and elsewhere (holmes threads),

    then there was this fake suicide of the Navy Seal commander in afghanistan (yesterday?).

    who knows what hells some people go through that the rest of us never see or could possibly fathom.

    god have mercy when we dont. on the victims of our empire.

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    I wanted to share something very important.
    The last couple of days, we saw threads about Blizzard entertainment allowing the NSA to profile users via participation in online gaming (VR environments).
    I have theorized for THREE YEARS that NSA/gov't agencies can use player profiles to target young kids and turn them into black ops assets.

    You might laugh at me for saying that here, but I don't give a ****. I don't care if it sounds paranoid or ill.
    It needs to be asked -- IS the government, or an arm of it that really needs to be regulated into the dirt, using VR profiles to "cherry pick" and "sheep dip" unsuspecting minors and young adults,
    turning them into black ops dupes by feeding them carefully-crafted lines of bull****?

    Read the following INFOWARS article, and tell me from the bottom of your heart, is it OUTSIDE the REALM OF POSSIBILITY that the gov't (or others) may use ONLINE video game communities as a resource pool in acquiring mentally ill black ops assets?

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/boston-b...d-control.html

    Boston Bomber Believed He Was a Victim of Mind Control
    Tamerlan Tsarnaev feared he had been brainwashed to act on trigger phrase


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    Suspected Boston marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev believed that he was a victim of mind control, according to the results of a five month investigation published yesterday by the Boston Globe.
    Tsarnaev, who was killed in a shootout with police four days after allegedly carrying out the bombings with his brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, was thought to have “some form of schizophrenia,” according to family friends, while his mother said Tsarnaev “felt like there were two people living inside of him.”

    “He believed in majestic mind control, which is a way of breaking down a person and creating an alternative personality with which they must coexist,” Donald Larking, a 67-year-old who attended a Boston mosque with Tamerlan, told the Globe. “You can give a signal, a phrase or a gesture, and bring out the alternate personality and make them do things. Tamerlan thought someone might have done that to him.”
    The link between allegations of mind control and violent acts such as political assassinations or terror attacks has been a running theme in numerous different high profile cases.

    Aurora theater gunman James Holmes said he was “programmed” to carry out the massacre by an “evil” therapist, according to an alleged inmate of the ‘Batman’ shooter. Steven Unruh claims that Holmes told him he “felt like he was in a video game” during the shooting and that he had been brainwashed with the aid of neuro-linguistic programming.

    The parallels between James Holmes and another alleged victim of mind control – RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan – are astounding.

    As the London Independent reported in 2005, evidence strongly indicates that Sirhan was a Manchurian candidate, a victim of mind control who was set up to be the fall guy for the murder. Sirhan was described by eyewitnesses as being in a trance-like state as he pulled the trigger.

    “There was no way Sirhan Sirhan killed Kennedy,” said (Sirhan’s lawyer Larry) Teeter….He was the fall guy. His job was to get busted while the trigger man walked out. He wasn’t consciously involved in any plot. He was a patsy. He was unconscious and unaware of what was happening – he was the true Manchurian Candidate.”

    The CIA’s use of mind control to create killers is a matter of historical record. MK-ULTRA was the code name for a covert, illegal CIA human research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence that came to light in 1975 through investigations by the Church Committee, and the Rockefeller Commission. 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti insists that the program is ongoing and has not been abandoned.

    According to his lawyers, Sirhan Sirhan “was an involuntary participant in the crimes being committed because he was subjected to sophisticated hypno programming and memory implantation techniques which rendered him unable to consciously control his thoughts and actions at the time the crimes were being committed,” and served only as a diversion for the real assassin.

    Jared Lee Loughner, the gunman who shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and killed six other people, was also obsessed with mind control.

    Were the Tsarnaev brothers set up or brainwashed into carrying out the Boston marathon bombing? It’s a claim that would be virtually impossible to prove, but it would explain a number of extraordinary contradictions pertaining to the case, including why the brothers apparently shouted “we didn’t do it” during their shootout with police.

    The aunt of Tamerlan Tsarnaev claims that the footage which emerged of police arresting a naked uninjured man was her nephew, contradicting the official narrative that Tsarnaev was critically injured in a shootout and suggesting he may have been killed while in custody.

    According to Tamerlan’s mother Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, the the FBI “were controlling his every step.” It was subsequently confirmed that both the FBI and the CIA added the brothers to at least two terrorist watch lists in late 2011.

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    I'd say 18 of the last 20 American and European mass murderers had accessed or been addicted to online gaming.

    It IS the common thread, whether people believe me or not.

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    Default Re: Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?

    Hi Tesla, I was one of the speakers at the first super soldier summit.

    Super soldier is definitely an incorrect term for my experiences as they were almost exclusively in a matrix type testing/training environment. Personally, I believe that most/if not all of the experiences were in that realm. The discovery channel filmed/interviewed my wife and I for a total of about 6 hours for the series Monsters and Mysteries, it should show next month.

    Was this MKULTRA, no idea. At no time was I given any mission/project names that can be recalled. But numerous people have had practically identical experiences, so imo some of these are actually lucid movies your conscious is subjected to but they feel like your own. But when two guys a few years apart in age remember being overtaken by a reptilian and held in a cabin for 3 days along with about 5 other people...not much else makes sense.

    Another incident we shared was being placed in a last man standing event, you killed everyone. We both remembered our last two kills, exactly alike up to and including about a 40' knife throw planting a knife into the chest of the last victim.

    There it is for what it's worth...

    Here's a link to my book, though I'm no pushing it in any way...

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    Default Re: Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?

    Tesla hi -

    Is it appropriate in your thread to discuss or re-point out what is and why MK Ultra was created ? If the concept being worked on in this thread is to point out the use of chemical programming to create a killer (a super soldier), or a hidden sleeper assassin, or hidden sleeper insane rabble rousing madman who goes on a ranting rage (on command by a key phrase for instance), any and all of that can be discussed here in this thread or in separate ones.

    Your call.

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    Tesla hi -

    Is it appropriate in your thread to discuss or re-point out what is and why MK Ultra was created ? If the concept being worked on in this thread is to point out the use of chemical programming to create a killer (a super soldier), or a hidden sleeper assassin, or hidden sleeper insane rabble rousing madman who goes on a ranting rage (on command by a key phrase for instance), any and all of that can be discussed here in this thread or in separate ones.

    Your call.
    Hi Bob!

    Sure, it's probably not a bad idea to tell people what MKULTRA is, but I am looking also for examples.
    It's a pretty old program, so most people on PA have likely heard of it.

    MKULTRA needed people who blend in with "normal" society for the most part, not so much a group of Xmen, but average Joes who could be called upon as a resource in a pinch.

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    My special lady friend has been programmed to "shut down" when concepts like MKULTRA, mind control, and even abduction start registering in her brain.

    If it is being talked about around her she gets agitate or excitable and deflects the conversation, and on several occasions when I got her to truly comprehend the possibility she slowly, methodically closes her eyes and powers herself to the floor, where she remains for a few seconds with the shallowest of breathing, completely unresponsive. When she comes to, her memory is erased back to about 5 mins before the start of the conversation.

    It was terrifying at first, but I realized when I let go of my fear (she was never harmed) she came to quicker. It was like a part of her knew when I wasn't thinking about that stuff and not transmit that information anymore.

    The other thing I experience is that word I forget (and can't scroll back on my phone to see) about talking about things she shouldn't know...with her though it is like a telepathic thing, she starts talking about things I know she knows nothing about, but are on my mind. Especially the stuff I study here.

    She was born in Ecuador and was taken by her father to a "specialist" when she was a kid when she exhibited exames of telekenisis and prescience a couple times in a short period. Her father was American scientist working for University of Alabama...she was in the first group ever tested for what was then an experimental growth hormone, which she took daily injections of as she was tiny and I guess that wasn't acceptable to the 'rents...or they maybe they made some medical excuse, I can't get clarity as the father is estranged and mother is clueless...

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    My special lady friend has been programmed to "shut down" when concepts like MKULTRA, mind control, and even abduction start registering in her brain.

    If it is being talked about around her she gets agitate or excitable and deflects the conversation, and on several occasions when I got her to truly comprehend the possibility she slowly, methodically closes her eyes and powers herself to the floor, where she remains for a few seconds with the shallowest of breathing, completely unresponsive. When she comes to, her memory is erased back to about 5 mins before the start of the conversation.

    It was terrifying at first, but I realized when I let go of my fear (she was never harmed) she came to quicker. It was like a part of her knew when I wasn't thinking about that stuff and not transmit that information anymore.

    The other thing I experience is that word I forget (and can't scroll back on my phone to see) about talking about things she shouldn't know...with her though it is like a telepathic thing, she starts talking about things I know she knows nothing about, but are on my mind. Especially the stuff I study here.

    She was born in Ecuador and was taken by her father to a "specialist" when she was a kid when she exhibited exames of telekenisis and prescience a couple times in a short period. Her father was American scientist working for University of Alabama...she was in the first group ever tested for what was then an experimental growth hormone, which she took daily injections of as she was tiny and I guess that wasn't acceptable to the 'rents...or they maybe they made some medical excuse, I can't get clarity as the father is estranged and mother is clueless...
    This is exactly the kind of story I am looking for.
    The history of experimental childhood testing and introduction to drugs and hormones, DNA is a red flag.
    The memory lapses and mind reading are definite red flags.

    It reminds me of a film (can't freaking remember the name) where a bunch of young adults are shot up with a hallucinogenic drug and go crazy.
    The doctors think it's all great of course.

    I met a person like your subject while touring a homeless shelter.
    She was speaking aloud things that others thought.
    As if she picked up the things that were on our minds, or scarier still, the things that would be on our minds later.

    I wondered if she had worked a high clearance job then got messed up with drugs by her superiors.

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    I worked with an ex army guy in a electronics firm, he seemed quite a nice guy, typical person with a wife and kids who he often spoke of. The company had a loud speaker system to notify folks of either deliveries or phone calls etc. I noticed that whenever someone spoke over this speaker system he would become enraged. Really scarey as he was built like a brick **** house. He was doing some soldering one day with a very large iron when the speaker system went off and a message was announced, I turned around to see where the hell he was and saw him crush this iron into a work bench.

    I mean, he destroyed the thing. It was so crumpled up when i looked at it I could not believe the power it must have taken to do it. He just dissapeared and never saw him again.

    I often wonder if this was anything to do with programming.
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    Quote Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?
    Well some of them, not all 7 billion of course, just don't have the time.

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    Another weird thing: I was watching some mind control thing I can't remember, an mkultra or monarch or some program's victim was saying how some get involved those pageants, I think the one I was listening to was talking about miss America....anyways my babe's sis (who is probably 6'1 I'd say, strange considering her parents are short and they were worried about her being a "little person") was runner up for representing Ecuador in Miss Universe pagent.

    In fact I think her and all 3 sisters hit the runway in one form of modeling or another...

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    Quote Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?
    Well some of them, not all 7 billion of course, just don't have the time.
    Yeah but some are more directly victimized than others...

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    I have a friend. She turned out a victim of life-long secret mind control/human experimental program since her birth. Her biological parents did weird things to her when she was a child. Long story to short, her life matches to common pattern of MKULTRA victims, entire family set up. They carefully picked up young couples to perform human experimentation in the past. These couples became monstrous parents and would have done unimaginable stuff to their own kids without knowing what they were doing.

    Looking at general public's behavior and level of stupidity I consider excellent mind control jobs has been done over thousands years. Religion was the first invention of mind control of humans I could think of. It dehumanizes humans and make them stupid, removes basic instincts and disconnect humans from Nature.
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    They have a tendency to work in smaller areas, small towns, where they can, as Freemasons, under cover of the Freemason groups, gain control of a school board (very few people, small school boards) and then start putting their own people in place, for the experiments, the abductions and the rituals.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    They have a tendency to work in smaller areas, small towns, where they can, as Freemasons, under cover the Freemason groups, gain control of a school board (very few people, small school boards) and then start putting their own people in place, for the experiments, the abductions and the rituals.
    Very true, and it spreads like a cancer. A sort of a silent enemy, not necessarily man made. A nation which is looled to sleep is far easier to be controled and to be consumed. Consciousness and awarness and an expansion of the heart as always is key.
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    my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments
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    They have a tendency to work in smaller areas, small towns, where they can, as Freemasons, under cover of the Freemason groups, gain control of a school board (very few people, small school boards) and then start putting their own people in place, for the experiments, the abductions and the rituals.
    I was thinking about what you said for the last 24 hours, off and on!

    It does seem to be a big problem.
    Me = really hates secret societies... sorry!!

    How does one fight a gang that's undercover of the law??

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    Fighting doesn't really seem to accomplish much, other than wasting emotional energy. How CAN we win a fight so stacked against us?

    I think it's up to is spread awareness, one person at a time. The truth seems to hold up, if you're brave enough to stand in it.

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Fighting doesn't really seem to accomplish much, other than wasting emotional energy. How CAN we win a fight so stacked against us?

    I think it's up to is spread awareness, one person at a time. The truth seems to hold up, if you're brave enough to stand in it.
    I live in a town where every lawyer knows every cop on a first name basis and no one will take anyone else to court.
    When there is corruption that's bad enough, the Tri-Cities police have to come break up the local gang a bit.

    it's happened recently and I think more than once, the Kennewick police have had to come out here and straighten things out...

    it's like a microscopic seattle police situation lol

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    Regarding OP yes, many, in my 47 years of various research and investigations, official and unofficial.
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    my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments
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