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    The Rothschild family did invest in weather prediction in 2011 by purchasing 70% of Weather Central, LP. Source: http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...-Stake-Weather

    Weather Central LP: “Well-known for its advanced technologies, the company pioneered weather computer graphics systems worldwide and continues to innovate, recently releasing the industry’s first 1km high-resolution forecast data set available on-air, online, and for mobile devices. Weather Central has used its hallmark scientific approach to secure customers that include network-owned and operated television stations, independent television stations, newspapers, websites, and individual businesses and consumers. From its headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin and its regional offices in Hong Kong, Beijing, and Berlin, the company’s systems provide weather to hundreds of millions of viewers through customer installations worldwide, including those in the U.K., Canada, Spain, Brazil, Mexico, and other countries. Weather Central is also the primary provider of weather technology and delivery to broadcast stations in China.”

    Lynn Forester de Rothschild has board member business relationships with the following:
    Este Lauder, Coca Cola, Christies, Warburg Pincus, Rockefeller University (Nancy Kissinger), and others.
    Source: http://investing.businessweek.com/re...rsonId=8016337

    It is reasonable to assume that these folks are associated, in one form or another, with weather modification companies. It is a reasonable question to ask how Weather Modification, Inc., based in Fargo, North Dakota, USA, a city which is not known as an international center, has been able to have clients/projects located in Antigua, Argentina, Australia, Burkina Faso, Canada, Greece, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Mali, Mexico, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Spain, Canary Islands, Thailand, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and the USA. Source: http://www.weathermodification.com/projects.php

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    Saw the "exact" clouds pattern around 8pm yesterday spanning from West to East-Northeast over north of Minneapolis-St Paul, MN. I was driving and so asked my son to take some pics with the cell phone. He said "Dad, you don't want them to wreck your phone again, do you?" - It had happened before. Even my 10 yr old daughter was sure the pattern was not natural.

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    see how the ionosphere is messed with here at the 5:09 mark:


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    i've taken many pics of clouds (never mind the chemtrails LOL) over the years.
    these i took last june/july, unretouched.
    i started noticing these types of "ripples" back around 2008 or so...




    Last edited by dynamo; 2nd May 2013 at 01:12. Reason: added one pic

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    A very interesting thread. The OP video is intriguing if un-Photoshopped and genuine. Weather modification is an active area of research around the world and has been for decades, so what’s going on here? Or is that example a natural phenomenon? How about a qualified meteorologist coming up here to suggest an explanation?

    I admit to being a HAARP sceptic; as someone who has worked with radio frequency stuff for over 30 years I reckon I have a fairly good feeling for what is possible. OK, so I’ve not been involved with any secret military stuff and it’s possible there’s a whole area of which I’m ignorant. But basic principles still hold:

    1) It’s unlikely that HAARP uses microwaves. The wavelength of microwaves means they are launched from resonant antennas (these would be only a few inches long) or from familiar microwave dishes. The HAARP antenna arrays seen from Google Earth are neither. They look to me like phased dipoles to work between 3 and 10 MHz, not microwaves. This is confirmed by my recording. (See 2 below.)

    2) Vague claims of “heating the ionosphere” which somehow causes the jet stream to be steered needs more explanation. The ionosphere was severely heated over Europe daily during the Cold War (my post #28 HERE explains the how and why with a recording of HAARP.) There are still questions in that thread no one has answered yet.

    3) I see from DeDuksyn’s map there is a facility in southern England (but not on Marion Island). Most of the UK is highly populated, particularly the southern half. It would be hard to hide a HAARP-type facility. Not only that, but the effects of the colossal power required to do what is claimed of such a device world cause chaos to local radio communications. That doesn’t happen – I know. Is the site just a misidentification of any number of radio/TV transmitting facilities?

    4) The document linked to by InCiDer explains just what the SANSA facility does; it monitors space weather and studies the ionosphere and magnetosphere. There are lots of similar facilities, there's one not too far from me. The SANSA site could have a sinister use, but that document does not suggest one. (And staff get sick at remote research facilities like anywhere else.)

    Like I said in my post in the other tread, there are a lot of folks who say they know what HAARP does, but I haven’t yet found a coherent, scientific explanation of how it does it. Referring to the many pseudo-scientific internet documents or Youtube videos (liberally sprinkled with scientific-sounding terms to convince the scientifically untrained) doesn't really help much.

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    PS: If you want a real - possibly related - mystery, have a look at the Long Delay Echoes phenomenon. It's got possible alien satellites, a NASA conspiracy (yes, another one!), deniers, believers, recordings...
    Hi Nick!

    I don't think what we are seeing in the video is HAARP. But it does appear to be something possibly unnatural.

    In response to a couple elements, I am not an expert in microwaves or radiation in general; but I am under the impression that that ELF (hence Micro) waves are the only ones that can induce ionospheric heating, which really what HAARP is all about. Just check the patents. Are you certain that this is false? I guess I want you to provide the evidence that, if HAARP cannot induce ELFs then why is it considered an ionospheric heater by design, or how can this effect be induced without ELFs, and how HAARP achieves that effect? (or are you saying everything on the subject is false?) Again, I'm not saying you are wrong, but some evidence may be in order for review -- if you appear to be correct, well, that might change everything on the outlook toward HAARP.

    Also, since you complain that no one who voices on this subject is an "expert", what your credentials might be that your voice is more valuable? Again, not opposing you at all, if you can back your words you may well be on to something here.
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    that is what I would call ... a smoking gun

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    @ DeDuksyn

    Good questions. My qualifications in this debate: broadcast engineer. LF/MF/HF/VHF/UHF/and satellite. Designer and installer of MF/HF radio transmitters and antennas.

    HAARP's ionospheric heating (according to my understanding of the ionosphere) is by beaming, not ELF, or microwaves, but HF signals into it - the same frequency range used by HF broadcasters; ie.3 to 30 MHz.

    Why do this? Well the ionosphere has effects upon satellite signals and I guess there are a lot of organizations that would like to understand this better to overcome the unpredictable effects, especially during high solar activity.

    And as for all these herring-bone repeating cloud ripples in the sky, I think Turner pained those in the 1800s. Lots of nice pictures on Google images.

    (BTW, in science if someone makes a claim, the onus is on them to demonstrate that it is true, not for others to prove that it is false.)

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    ... I think Turner pained those in the 1800s. Lots of nice pictures on Google images.

    ...
    Turner, the watercolour painter extraordinaire?
    will have to do some googling!
    Thanks nick!

    Here's some images of his work:
    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...FLOMyAHqqYDIBA

    Along with increased occurrences of herring-bone patterns, there seem to be many "chem-bows" these days, an unnatural looking scattering of light, by something other than water droplets; perhaps barium, strontium. aluminum and lord knows what else?

    i digress, my apologies, BBL.
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    I've noticed the wavy lines in the clouds, too. And I've wondered what kind of technology affects these? Probably just as harmful as all the others....

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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    I don't know if anyone has seen this video before. It was posted on 2012thebigpicture. Interesting theory. See what you think!

    When looking at the still photo (above) I'm reminded of what a satellite view of the Norway Spiral may have looked like; allegedly a failed Russian missile test but more likely (in my view) a transmission from Eiscat, coincidentally less than 8 miles south east and over the hills from Tromso, as illustrated from all the video footage of the event. Of course I'm in no way qualified to make such assertions. Sorry Nik and thanks for your input anyway btw.



    One of many Eiscat articles here complete with good photos of the transmitters etc.

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    Dear All,

    This may be a must-see video.



    From the YouTube text:

    Planet Earth is under an all out weather warfare assault.

    In this video, Dane Wigington gives another presentation in Northern California on the harmful effects of Geoengineering, declaring that there is virtually NO NATURAL WEATHER due to the massive global climate engineering. The very essentials needed to sustain life on earth are being recklessly destroyed by these programs. This is not a topic that will begin to affect us in several years, but is now already causing massive animal and plant die off around the world, as well as human illness.

    The debate over whether geoengineering programs are going on is now a moot point. We have more than enough data to confirm it. We have actual footage showing tankers spraying. The materials showing up on the ground are exactly the same materials mentioned in the numerous geoengineering patents and documents. Visit our website for a list of these government patents and documents.

    Our skies today are simply not normal. Upon examination this cannot be denied. They are filled with nanoparticulates of heavy metals. But the skies have been filled with grid patterns for so long now that we are used to them and do not see them anymore. Sadly, the fact is that people do not look up.

    To be clear, what we are seeing is not cloud seeding to increase rainfall. These particulates are designed to block the sun and move the jet stream. Dane explains how this is causing the drought and deluge being experienced around the globe.

    Our atmosphere is nothing but a massive physics lab to geoengineering scientists who have no concern whatsoever about the consequences to humanity or any living thing, including themselves. The experiments are literally tearing the planet apart and destroying life on earth.

    Dane reports, among other things, on:
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    • 200 species becoming extinct every single day
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    Dane Wigington presents hard data which reveals what these catastrophic programs have done to our planet to date and what they will do if they are allowed to continue. Please take the time to watch this video, follow up with some investigation of your own on our site -- http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org, and share this information far and wide.

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    I actually heard an NPR (National Public Radio) interview a few weeks back, with several scientists being interviewed about geoengineering. It was mentioned how many governments and corporations have participated in so many experiments, that the variables they might be testing for are more difficult to track, because of the influences various programs have on each other in addition to the effects the programs have on the weather.

    The first reaction was, HA! In Your Face, Chemtrail Skeptics!

    The second reaction was, Uh oh, why are they making this public now?

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    Until our elected officials start talking about this in public... Well, I guess I'll just stop there and get back to work.

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    It is quite a depressing video to watch. Is there any hope of turning all that around to healthy planet again?

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    This is the book that is shown and mentioned in the video KILLING US SOFTLY.pdf

    Regards to all

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    Dues ex Machina anyone?
    So overwhelming. I could feel his desperation during the presentation.

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    Dane Wigington is my favorite geoengineering researcher, I have seen this video some time back. I think it's one of the most important topics of our time.
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    Very informative, shows more than I knew... it's not depressing it's the truth, this has all been going on far too long... the sheepels don't want to know, they just want everyone to mind there own business and get on with life... they are so stupid as soon there will be no life to continue.... wake up people.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    It is quite a depressing video to watch. Is there any hope of turning all that around to healthy planet again?

    Stan
    Yes, Stan, there is, but it requires a great deal of guts in a Gandhian sense from an awful lot of people. We could pull the monetary plug. That would require the individual action of a lot of people willing to stand the line in the face of all that TPTB can throw at an individual. We have not reached that point of willingness.

    Or, we could do it if we had a united populace on the whole planet. One gigantic sit-down strike would do it, lasting as long as it takes. That requires guts, too.

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    Default Re: Weaponising the Weather

    This "May be" a must watch? You say "may be" in the same sense that drinking water "May be" an effective prevention for dehydration. Elegantly done Bill, as usual. ^_^

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    Last edited by Shezbeth; 6th February 2014 at 04:06.

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