Chris Thomas

[turiya]

Posted by onawah (here)
Is it possible that the Velon have been using HAARP and other technologies to prevent the frequency of the Schumann Resonance from changing?

Chris Thomas wrote:

HAARP

Then there is the use of technology such as HAARP which stands for High-energy Active Auroral Research Programme. The first HAARP station was built in Alaska but there are now a number of others dotted around the planet. The Military claim that it is not a military project but was set up for use by the military for “over the horizon” radar and communications.

It might very well be used for these purposes but its two main uses are weather modification, mainly to cause droughts and famines but more recently, it has been used to flood the Earth with Extra Low Frequency waves. These ELF waves are intended to slow down the Earth's rising frequencies as well as to slow down our own consciousness re-integration as they are similar in frequency to microwaves.

These are very deliberate acts and have caused some disruption to our process of change.
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[turiya]

Posted by Delight (here)
What is the soul really? Could the reintegration of the soul be about OUR BIOPLASMA consciousness reintegrating with CONNECTION TO DARK PLASMA?

The idea of a material soul is not new. The Greek philosopher, Heraclitus, who lived in the sixth century BC, thought that the soul was composed of an unusually fine or rare kind of matter, such as air or fire. However, if it was material it had to have some weight. Barbara Brennan, former NASA engineer and now world-renowned energy healer, observes that ‘aura’ appears to have weight. Robert Monroe also believes that the ‘Second Body’ has weight, although much less than the carbon-based body. (The terms ‘aura’, ‘astral body’ and the ‘Second Body’ refer to what is generally described as the ‘subtle body’ in the metaphysical literature. The subtle body has often been loosely identified as the ‘soul’.) http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com....php?id=204863

I am sorry, but to classify Heraclitus as a philosopher is just wrong. Heraclitus was one of the very few enlightened Western mystics, imo. On the same level as Socrates.

The Indian mystic Osho was asked:

Are mind, mana, intellect, buddhi, mind stuff, chitta, and ego, ahankara, separate entities or different names for the same thing?

Short Answer:

The first thing is that in this world, matter and consciousness are not two separate things. What we call matter is consciousness asleep, and what we know as consciousness is matter awakened. In reality, matter and consciousness are not different; they are different manifestations of the same thing. Existence is one, and that one is godliness or Brahman or whatsoever you want to call it. When that one is asleep it appears as matter, and when awake it is consciousness. So don’t treat matter and consciousness as separate entities; they are only utilitarian terms. They are not really different.

When science dug deep it found that only energy is, and when spirituality delved deep it found that only spirit or Atman or soul is. And soul is energy. The time is just around the corner when a synthesis of science and religion will be achieved, and the distance that separates them will simply disappear. When the gap between matter and truth has proved to be false, the gap between science and religion cannot exist for long. If matter and consciousness are not two, how can religion and science be two? The separation of science and religion was dependent on the separation of matter and consciousness.

There is a similarity between the materialist and the spiritualist; both of them accept only one – either matter or consciousness. But there is a difference too. While the materialist accepts the first thing and is thus deprived of the ultimate, the spiritualist accepts the ultimate which includes the first in it. It is all-inclusive; it does not exclude. I love the language of spirituality, and therefore I say that everything is consciousness. Consciousness asleep is matter, and consciousness awakened is consciousness. All is consciousness.

Question (second part):

Are they (the mind, mana, intellect, buddhi, mind stuff, chitta, and ego, ahankara) different from the Atman or the soul, or are they are one with it? Are they conscious or unconscious? What is conscious and what is unconscious, and what are their specific places in life?

Short Answer:

The questioner wants to know whether mind, intellect, mind stuff, and ego – mana, buddhi, chitta and ahankara – are separate entities or are the same?

They are not separate entities; they are many faces of the same mind.

It is like asking whether the father, the son and the husband are separate individuals – and I say no, he is one and the same man. We know that the same person is a father in relation to his son, a son in relation to his father, and a husband in relation to his wife. The same man can be a friend to one and an enemy to another. He may be beautiful to one and ugly to another. And the same man may be a master to one and servant to another. But he is one and the same man. If you didn’t know this was his house, and someone tells you that he saw his master there, and another day someone else tells you that his servant lives in that house, and yet another day a young man says that his father lives there, and again a woman informs you that her husband is the owner of that house, then you will conclude that many people – a master, a servant, a father and a husband – live in that particular house. But the fact is that the same person is playing different roles in relation to different people.

Our mind behaves in many ways. When it feels arrogant and says, “I am everything and others are nothing before me,” then mind appears as ego. That is one way of the mind’s behavior. It is ego when it says, “I am everything.” When it declares, “Everyone is just nothing before me” then mind is ego.

And when the mind thinks, cogitates, it is intellect. But when it does not think or cogitate, when it simply moves about, rambles without any sense of direction; when it is unfocused, it is called mind stuff, or chitta. Intellect is mind with a direction, as the mind of a scientist sitting in his lab and thinking how to split the atom. When the mind moves about without any purpose and aim, when it kind of dreams and daydreams, when it thinks of becoming a billionaire or the president of a country, when it is unfocused, then it is chitta or mind stuff. Then it is just waving and wavering, it is incoherent and disorganized. And when it follows a well-laid system of thought, it is intellect.

These are the many ways of the mind. But it is all mind.

The questioner also wants to know if mind, intellect, mind stuff and ego are separate from the soul or the Atman?

Do you think that when there is a storm in an ocean, the ocean and the storm are separate? When the ocean is agitated and disturbed, we call it a storm. Similarly when the soul is agitated and disturbed, when it is restless, it is called mind. And when the mind is quiet, it is again soul. Mind is the restless state of the soul, and soul is the quiet and tranquil state of the mind.

In other words, when consciousness is disturbed and agitated, when it is stirred and tempestuous, it is mind. That is why, as long as you are in the mind, you cannot be aware of the Atman, the soul. And for the same reason, the mind, when it is in meditation, ceases to be. But what does it mean to cease? It means that the waves raging in the sea of the soul have calmed down. It is only then that you know you are a soul. So long as you are disturbed and restless, you know yourself only as a mind.

The restless mind appears in many forms – sometimes as ego, sometimes as intellect and sometimes as mind stuff. These are the different faces of the same restless mind.

The Atman and mind are not separate. The Atman and the body, too, are not separate, because the substance, the essence, the reality is one, and all these are transformations of the same thing. And if you know the one, all conflicts with the body or the mind, all strife, come to an end. Once you recognize the one, then it alone remains.

Essence is one, its expressions are infinite. Truth is one, its forms are many. Existence is one, its faces and gestures are myriad.

But you cannot understand it if you approach it as a philosophy. You can understand it only if you approach it experientially, if you know it as an experience. I am saying all this just to explain it to you; this explanation cannot become your knowing, your experience. You will have to experience it for yourself. And when you enter into one and know it, you will exclaim, “What I had known as body is godliness; what I had known as mind is godliness, and what I had known as Atman is also godliness!”

Upon knowing, only one remains. And this one is so vast, so immense, that all gaps between the knower and the known and knowledge disappear. There, the knower and the known become one. One of the rishis, the seers of the Upanishad, asks, “Who is there who knows? Who is the one who is known? Who is the one who saw? Who is the one who was seen? Who is the one who experienced? And who is the one who was experienced?” No, not even this much separation remains that you can distinguish the knower from the known, that you can say there are two; even the experiencer ceases to be. All distances, all gaps, all separations simply vanish.

But thought cannot live without creating separations and distances. Thought is bound to create distinctions. It will say this is the body, this is mind, this is soul and this is godliness. It will differentiate between the body and mind, between soul and godliness. Thought will bring in separations and divisions which don’t exist.

Why? – because thought cannot encompass and contain the total, the whole, in one piece. It is a very small opening through which things can only be seen piecemeal. Thought is a very small aperture in the mind through which we try to find truth. Through thought, truth is seen in fragments; truth is fragmented. But when you drop thoughts and enter a thought-free space, which is meditation, then the total is observed. And the day the whole, the total is seen, we exclaim, “It was all one seen in infinite forms!”

But this is possible only through having the experience.

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turiya

[Herbert]

Important Verification of Chris Thomas and the Akashic as an Accurate Source of Truth

If we may call one part of these Akashic revelations a theory, then an important (if unknowing) verification by Stephen Hawking in Nature magazine.

There is a difference between good science and the science we are seeing more and more of in the world, for several years now, which is based on payoffs, University funding, secret government agendas, and corporate agendas. In other words scientists are bought and paid for. And as a result good scientific research has suffered far more than anyone can imagine. I completed a degree in science but did not go on because it became obvious to me that one had a very limited number of projects they could pursue based on funding, influence and agendas. This always leads to bad science and the good scientific minds who stay with it are warped as a result of their need to maintain tenure and livelihood.

Science is full of theories and the best theory is the one that can answer all the questions anyone can throw at it. Once in a long while such an incorruptible theory comes along and becomes law. The problem is that because of self-interest motives from various sources, including E.T. influences through mind control, some of these ‘laws’ are not correct. But instead of acknowledging observations which contradict the ‘law’, scientists go on and on dreaming up new ‘support’ theories to maintain this archaic scientific belief system. Dark matter, dark energy, etc. to support the big bang theory is one example and since this is not about those details I will leave it at that.

This is Very Important
The very best example of a theory that is being proven beyond any doubt to be true is the information Chris Thomas has gleaned from the Akashic regarding Black Holes. This is important because it unabashedly demonstrates that he has connected to a source of verifiably true history. His ‘theory’ on Black Holes answers any question you can throw at it except (so far at least) how WE did it.

The theory plus some additional details:
Black Holes are not native to this Universe.As of March 2002 they have been shut down and are in the process of releasing back into our Universe the energy they extracted.

They were created by alien technology from an adjacent universe which was used by its Lizard occupants for boring into our Universe. This Lizard energy is foreign to our Universe so it took our guardians a long time to figure out how to counteract and remove it and shut down the black Holes which were siphoning off up to one third of this Universe’s available energy. The foreign technology never came closer to our Solar System than 96 Galaxies away but the Lizard energy infected 30,000 non-physical souls who were destined to incarnate on Earth at different times. Only about 8,000 of these souls chose to use this Lizard energy to take away human free will. Occupants of the Vatican were of this energy and people have recognized it in the English Queen Elizabeth II's mother.

It is not passed on through DNA but once infected a soul has the choice of using it in future lifetimes. Despite the distance between our Solar System and the Lizard interlopers, it was us who finally removed them from our Universe and shut down the Black Holes. Chris has not been able to discern from the Akashic exactly how we did this, but boot them out we did and it happened in March of 2002.

In the future scientists will be scratching their heads, as indeed some must already be doing, wondering why they, or their predecessors, ever though there was such a thing as an ‘Event Horizon’ which supposedly forms around a ‘Black Hole’. As Stephen Hawking (who built his reputation on Black Holes) recently announced in Nature magazine something along the lines of. ‘Black Holes’ do not exist. There is no such thing as an ‘Event Horizon’. Instead there are areas of space where energy gets temporarily trapped and is then slowly emitted at some future time.

http://www.nature.com/news/stephen-h...-holes-1.14583


You will note that scientists seldom let go of a treasured theory in one go. It happens slowly in stages:

1. Black Holes are surrounded by an Event Horizon that sucks in anything and everything that comes near it. Black Holes emit nothing, not even light can escape from a Black Hole.

2. The Event Horizon does however reflect some radiation back out while consuming everything else. (This is Hawkings response to observations)

3. It may be possible that Back Holes should be called White Holes because they do at some point start spewing out the building blocks of future suns and planets. Some researchers even came to say that black/white Holes were the source of creation.

4. There is no such thing as an Event Horizon, or a Black Hole as such, it is just an area of space that traps elements for a time and then slowly releases those elements in the form of radiation. (Stephen hawking)

5. Final Stage: Black Holes have never existed in this Universe. We see no signs of these so-called areas of space and we do not understand what these scientists of the past were witnessing . . . They were quite clearly delusional.

For those who still believe Lizard e.t.s are for real and not just disguised Velon, I submit the same future scenario. I could also add Lion race and Mantid race, Angel accompaniment, etc. So beware those Pleiadians you are talking to, they may well be Velons in disguise.

Onawah asked if the above paragraph is a statement from Chris. The answer is they are my words based on what Chris says in his books and things he has said to me personally. There is a section somewhere in which he lists the various races and which of the Velon races is impersonating them. This does not mean all Peiadian visitors are Velon. It just means you should be super cautious and question who you are talking to. Remember they are very tricky, as are the Greys who dress in monks' cowls and hide their faces.

[turiya]

Posted by Herbert (here)
For those who still believe Lizard e.t.s are for real and not just disguised Velon, I submit the same future scenario. I could also add Lion race and Mantid race, Angel accompaniment, etc. So beware those Pleiadians you are talking to, they may well be Velons in disguise.

Precisely & exactly my sediments.
Thank you, Herbert.

Velon Masquerading as a Reptilian

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Posted by turiya (here)
Having a bit of 'skepticism' could be considered a very good quality to have, here. One has to consider the following:

If semi-physical Alien entities can make themselves appear as Angels, complete with feathered wings & surrounded by white light, then they could also make themselves appear as Reptilian ETs, complete with horns, leathery wings & a spiked dragon-like tail. Or, even, as a Preying Mantis shaped being that is here to act as a care-taking, [care-giving] spirit guide.

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turiya

[onawah]

Is this a statement from Chris Thomas?:

Posted by Herbert (here)
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For those who still believe Lizard e.t.s are for real and not just disguised Velon, I submit the same future scenario. I could also add Lion race and Mantid race, Angel accompaniment, etc. So beware those Pleiadians you are talking to, they may well be Velons in disguise.

Although I'm sure that some of what CT has said is demonstrably true, some of it is also demonstrably not true, so as with any other source of information on these kinds of subjects, I will exercise a lot of discernment.

[turiya]

Posted by onawah (here)
Is this a statement from Chris Thomas?:

Posted by Herbert (here)
[B][U]
For those who still believe Lizard e.t.s are for real and not just disguised Velon, I submit the same future scenario. I could also add Lion race and Mantid race, Angel accompaniment, etc. So beware those Pleiadians you are talking to, they may well be Velons in disguise.

Although I'm sure that some of what CT has said is demonstrably true, some of it is also demonstrably not true, so as with any other source of information on these kinds of subjects, I will exercise a lot of discernment.

Although I'm sure that some of what CT has said is demonstrably true, some of it is also demonstrably not true, so as with any other source of information on these kinds of subjects, I will exercise a lot of discernment.

Hi onawah

Exercising one's own discernment is certainly a good practice to develop for oneself. It is breaking away from the conditioned-reflex-response mechanistic behavior that most human beings have been programmed to continually repeat, reiterate & regurgitate the statements, opinions, beliefs & iterations of others, instead of using one's own god-given intelligence (which includes the intuitive sense).

Its easy enough to research this particular quote for yourself, onawah. Simply copy & paste this quote into your browser & see if there comes up some other place on the internet that has this phrase showing a match of it being used elsewhere. This should give you a good clue/indication as to whether Chris Thomas has come out with this statement, or someone else. I, myself, did not find a Chris Thomas link to this statement. So I would take it (assume) that this is something that Herbert has come up using his own discernment. That is in my opinion (imo).

Perhaps Herbert may 'chime-in' with a comment... maybe it came out of an email that he received from Chris, as what is written in an email will not show up with this kind of search.


cheers - turiya

[onawah]

It's always helpful, to avoid confusion, and certainly advised as a matter of course on Avalon, if posters give a source for the information they are posting, whether it be their own opinion, or from another source.

[turiya]

Posted by onawah (here)
Is this a statement from Chris Thomas?:

Posted by Herbert (here)
[B][U]
For those who still believe Lizard e.t.s are for real and not just disguised Velon, I submit the same future scenario. I could also add Lion race and Mantid race, Angel accompaniment, etc. So beware those Pleiadians you are talking to, they may well be Velons in disguise.

Although I'm sure that some of what CT has said is demonstrably true, some of it is also demonstrably not true, so as with any other source of information on these kinds of subjects, I will exercise a lot of discernment.

Posted by onawah (here)
It's always helpful, to avoid confusion, and certainly advised as a matter of course on Avalon, if posters give a source for the information they are posting, whether it be their own opinion, or from another source.

Here's a quote from the Discussion of Simon Parkes Thread... you have read this previously, because you had welcomed Herbert to that particular thread right after he posted it... I don't understand why you are still confused about this?

Posted by Herbert (here)
The Anunnaki regularly disguise themselves as Lizard beings or lion beings, etc.. The Hathors disguise themselves as angels and sometimes as Pleaideans. This comes from Chris Thomas who is a very grounded and grounding individual.

turiya

[onawah]

Do you really not understand, Turiya? It's fairly obvious, I would think.
The first statement from Herbert in his post implies that there are no Reptilians at all, just Velon disguised as Reptilians.
Whereas what Herbert said that CT said is that the Annunaki regularly disguise themselves as Reptilians. CT apparently did not say "always", and so he is apparently not saying that Reptilians are not "for real".
There is a big difference there.
Then Herbert goes on to say in another broad and sweeping statement that the same is true of the Lion and Mantid races, and "Angel accompaniment".
Though he leaves the door open somewhat for Pleiadians--they may or may not be Velons, according to Herbert.
It is very unclear as to what is his opinion and what is really what CT has stated himself.

I welcome anyone who is interested in truth, but we need to be very exacting and truthful in what we post here, as there is much room for misunderstanding, as well as for sabotage.
It would have been much more to Herbert's credit if he had presented a more balanced perspective and included in his post on the Discussion thread the fact that, for example, CT's predictions and numbers concerning the population have proven to be very inaccurate, instead of just posting the correlation with Hawking.

The Discussion thread is not my thread, and so my welcome there to Herbert was only personal (perhaps regrettable, in retrospect), and not official, because I have found some of CT's information to be of interest, but that may not be true of everyone else in that discussion.
I would caution anyone who posts on that thread to be courteous and to be aware that the Discussion is first and foremost discussion about Simon's information, and if anyone attempts to derail it by posting quantities of contradictory information from other sources (particularly if it is misquoted), they are likely to receive more than just a caution, and not just from one Avalonian.

There is plenty of space on this thread for discussion of CT's information.
But it's necessary to keep in mind here and on any other thread, that nothing anyone reads on the Akashic Records, if indeed that is what they are reading, is verifiable, even if Stephen Hawking agrees with it, and to be very careful to state what is our own opinion and what is being quoted from another source.

[turiya]

Posted by turiya (here)

From the Robert Stanley Interview, Chris Thomas said:

In terms of Reptilian races & Reptiles in Human form, they no longer exist - all those energy patterns are gone.

On pages 158 and 159 [chapter 7] of The Human Soul, CT cites 40 different pseudonyms that the Velon have used to channel information to people on Earth....false information, that is.

Included amongst these are: Reptilians

Robert Stanley Interview pt3

And from Chris Thomas' book:

On pages 158 and 159 [chapter 7] of The Human Soul, CT cites 40 different pseudonyms that the Velon have used to channel information to people on Earth....false information, that is.

Included amongst these are:

Abbenaki, Agharthanians, Alpha Draconis, Altarians, Annunaki, Apa-Mus, Aryans, Blonde Nordic Humanoids, Blonds, Central Race, Dals, Dracos, Elohim [name adopted from human history], Esteknas, Felines, Galimaiains, Jupiterians, Kumaras, Liquidians, Nephelim, Nibirians, Nibiruans, Nommos, Hathor, Nors, orions, Paschats, Reptilians, Reticulans, Regelians, 7th Paradisian, Santinians, Seeders, Sirians, Suvians, Tall whites, Venusians, Zetas.

He also says that the Velon have adopted many other disguises, such as: Ascended Masters, Saint Germain, Mary Magdalene, as well as several hundred Angels and Archangels.

Plus, the Velon are also responsible for the following organisations:

Great White Brotherhood, Galactic Federation, Borealis, Masters from The White Lodge, Orion Empire, and Ashtar Command.

He says: Neither the universe nor any galaxy is run by any committee!

So, that just about covers all of the New Age channelling that we are subjected to, every day of the week.

He also says that Arch Angels don't exist.
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He mentioned, in passing, in the final chapter of The Human Soul, that entire books have been written, allegedly coming from Pleiadian sources, but which were actually coming from the Velon.

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Now, as far as the Lion people go, Mother Sekhmet is depicted as a Lioness, with the head of a Lioness, and a solar disk and Uraeus (asp) on her head.

Now, Mother Sekhmet is considered an Ascended Master and who is channeled, in particular, by Elizabeth Trutwin. In the Sekhmet material that Elizabeth Trutwin channels, Mother Sekhmet's home planet is Nibiru... yes, (the same as the Annunaki) and that would then make Sekhmet a Velon entitiy, according to Chris Thomas. And relative to the similarities of the two images (below), the sub-race of Velon would be specifically the Velon sub-race called the Hathor, as the Hathor claim to be related to ancient Egyptians.

Sekhmet looks an awful like Hathor

Image Source is Wikipedia

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It seems that the quality & tone of your written words have entered the "way too serious" zone of the emotional spectrum. Seemingly charged & incensed, imo, with an intent to bring down the thread. In an area of endeavor that cannot be substantiated with hard factual evidence, but only subjective musings, it is suggested that in searching for your truth, onawah, that you consider taking care to not discard the most valued & precious quality that human beings have - their sense of humor - in the process of your search. Your truth is out there, somewhere, and is not to be found here. So, begone!

That will do it for today, tomorrow & forever after that.
Good day & good bye, onawah.

P.S. BTW, onawah, you could have researched this for yourself - all you had to do is enter "Dead Sea Scrolls" + Velon into your web browser (a google search) & this particular website is the first thing that comes up.

turiya

[Herbert]

This list comes from Chris Thomas but I have added within square brackets to improve understanding and information. If anyone who has his books or with more information from his essays and videos should see an error or recommend additions please pm me . . .

New material will be added in red to the chart

Page 229 (The Human Soul- Chris Thomas) CHRONOLOGICAL CHART OF THE UNIVERSE

14.4 Billion Years Ago Creation of the Universal envelope [made up of 13 souls as guardians and energy balancers]

100 Million Years Ago Creation of the 6 non-physical races [born on 6 different planets throughout the Universe (Angels)]

40 Million Years Ago Completion of our Solar System with early life beginning to form on most of the 13 planets, [each planet being an individual self-
determining soul consciousness in contrast to the rest of the solar systems in this Universe]

30 Million Years Ago Creation of the 7 semi-physical races on 7 diverse planets [soul is attached to a lighter body than humans. They need to build
organic space ships to travel from planet to planet. As they spread throughout the Galaxies, they change their racial name to the
name of the new planet they inhabit which leads to a multitude of E.T. racial names]

25 Million Years Ago Earth began to explore the possibility offered by physical forms of life [more compressed than the 7 semi-physical races]

20 Million Years Ago Earth’s Creation of the Sidhe and the Faerie [group souls who look after and balance the plant life energies]

4.5 Million Years Ago Neanderthal Man developed by Earth from the early proto-humans. [In total there are 5 other proto-humans, 4 of which show less
evolutionary promise – Gigantopithecus, Pygmy, Homo-Erectus, Australopithecus and the last template brought from Mars’ Cro Magnon, who evolved faster than Neanderthal. Later (see down the page to 85,000 yrs. ago) DNA manipulation of Cro Magnon on Atlantis by those non-physical souls and semi physical souls who wished to participate in the 'Human Experiment' birthed Wholly Human physical bodies which could contain the whole of the soul within the body as individual consciousnesses (formerly Cro Magnon had been group consciousness)]

4 Million Years Ago The arrival of Merlin (Guardian and energetic balancer for the entire planet on Earth) and the other 12 planetary
Guardians [All of the 13 planets Supplied a portion of their soul consciousness to each of these planetary Guardians](see Planet
Earth – The Universe’s Experiment)

3.9 Million Years Ago 4 of the original 13 planets in our solar system decide to remove themselves from the ‘physical’ experiment.
The debris of two of these planets forming the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, and part of the
consciousness of one planet remains in what becomes Earth’s moon. The remains of the other two are just
outside of the solar system giving rise to NASA’s detection of Planet X –the tenth planet or possibly now known
as Tyche.

3.8 Million Years Ago The adoption by Earth, of the Cro Magnon template from Mars. Virtually all life was instantly destroyed on all
planets in the solar system except Earth and Ganymede by the destruction and removal of the 4
planets. Earth rocked on her equatorial axis developed a wobble. Earth adopted Cro Magnon as a possible additional
development to her Neanderthal.

3.6 Million Years Ago The 14th Faction break into this Universe in search of raw resources resulting in the contamination of the
energies of free choice. (See Planet Earth)

94-98,000 Years Ago Period when Lemuria was established on an ice island in the southern Atlantic. [Several people have assumed
that Lemuria was a warm climate but the Akashic does not agree with this view.]

85,000 Years Ago Atlantis established – stretching as a continent from the coast of Ireland to the Caribbean Basin and Brazil. Included England,
Ireland and the Azores.

65,000 Years Ago [Sinking of Atlantis down to the core of Earth. The resulting disruption causes Earth to tilt on her axis from a
vertical position, resulting in a freezing of the North Hemisphere Pole. All non-physical souls incarnate returned to source for
40,000 years.] Construction of the Sphinx in Egypt as a marker for the entrance to the principle underground
‘shelter’ used by those who remained on Earth to undo the damage caused by the destruction of Atlantis. Other
‘shelters’ exist in South America, entrance near to Teotihuacan, and in Britain entrance under West Kennet Long
Barrow.

28,000 Years Ago New energy matrix constructed around planet to support the shortly to arrive new human population. The
energy matrix is more commonly called the ‘Ley Line Grid’

20,000 Years Ago 6 regions of the Earth (1.South America, 2.Mesopotamia the area around Sumeria, 3.Egypt, 4.Britain, Ireland and Northern France,
5.Tibet, 6.Southern Greece Volcanic activity destroyed most of this region leaving only scattered islands now. (see The Fool’s First
Steps) were re-colonised by souls from each of the thirteen soul origins. Each colonised region began to explore our
connections to the Earth. The full soul human template was adopted as the ‘standard model’ for the human body.


18,000 Years Ago Construction of the Great Pyramid – sometimes called Khufu or Cheops Pyramid. The original concept was that
only this pyramid was required to fulfil its psychic reconstruction role for the physical body/whole soul link. As
humans became more and more physical, the other pyramids were added, until about 15,000 years ago, all
seven principle pyramids were complete. These 7 pyramids, the central 3 at Giza with the other 4 at locations
matching the stars of the Orion Constellation, were designed to connect together into a massive energy
collection and focusing structure. It was also at this time that Kobekli Tepe in Southern Turkey was constructed.

17,000 Years Ago Construction of pyramids at Teotihuacan and the other colonised sites except for Celtic Britain, Ireland and Northern France to
perform the same consciousness rebuilding function as the Great Pyramid at Giza.

16,000 Years Ago Adoption of sexual reproduction. Although the ‘normal’ conception and birth process had been experimented
with, all new lives were brought about [as with most among the semi-physical races] by a process called ‘Adult
Birth’ up until this time. Sexual reproduction was not fully adopted by everyone until 7,000 years ago.

12,000 Years Ago First use of a written language based on the electrical impulses that run along the spine. This “binary” language
became the root of all written languages.

10,000 Years Ago Construction of Sillbury Hill, the Avebury stone circles and the first phase of the construction of Stonehenge. [The
Celts were able to hold full consciousness much longer than the other 5 regions because Earth’s central energy
centre is located in England, which is why they were later in building and also why they could use open structures
instead of pyramids.]

8,000 Years Ago The majority of people leave the planet to merge with their higher self to discuss the way forward for human life
on Earth. This ‘discussion’ led to the formation of the ‘Human Plan’.

7,000 Years Ago The beginning of the Human Plan being put into action. The human template now becomes divided into two, the
‘physical self’ and the ‘higher self’. The human plan meant that every one designed a series of lifetimes in order
to gain as much knowledge as possible of how to be human on Earth and to regain the original human template of
the whole soul within the physical body. The knowledge gathering process has become known as ‘Karma’
[original meaning: Knowledge]. The Earth has considered people to be ‘sub-human’ ever since. In agreement
with the Earth’s consciousness, we imposed a 7,000 year time limit which expires around the end of 2011. [It is
not possible to know exactly when it expires because we don’t have exact numbers as to when it began. We
could be out up to 50 years. The Akashic is not specific within 50 years as to exactly when the plan began.]

5820 Years Ago The arrival of the Annunaki (Enki and Enlil) in Sumeria having travelled back in time from the present era. Enki
begins to dictate the ‘Book of Enki’ to Sumerian scribes who take the story down onto clay tablets. Copies of
these tablets travelled to Babylonia, the Hittites and eventually, the Himalayas and Egypt. According to Zachariah
Sitchin, the story forms the basis of the Old Testament. [some may find this flow confusing related to time travel]

1,000 Years Ago The Velon race discovers the primary energy flow to our solar system. (see Project Human Exstinction)

200 Years Ago The first of the Velon ships arrive at the Orion Gateway

August 14, 1996 17:30 BST The connection of the new [ley line] energy grid to North Devon. The new energy overlays and reconstructs the
original matrix which was constructed 28,000 years ago The new grid activated the 12 global primary energy
points. Connecting the grid triggers the first census of human readiness for our [soul reintegration] completion
process.

December 31, 1999 Start of the acceleration of the human energy structures allowing further free choice and actions. Those energies
reached their peak at the end of May 2003. With this peak, the process of change became unstoppable and could
not be reversed.

May 30, 2000 The Earth alters her base-note frequency from 7.56 Hz to ? It is not certain when the 7,000 yr. time limit began. It could be out 50
years. It is only the Earth and her connection to human consciousness which can now determine when full soul integration will
happen. Earth is expanding and human consciousness must follow. Those not prepared may be cast off or allowed to live out their
lifetimes. It is Earth’s decision and individual choice to do the work of removing emotional blocks to CNS energy flow.

March, 2002 The 14th Faction lizard energy is removed from our Universe, stolen energy radiates back and the black holes are closed. The
individuals in the Vatican and the Jesuits who used this energy to remove other’s free will have lost that power forever.

June 2, 2003 The first people to complete the whole soul integration process 25 in the USA (all but 1 taken by the military for experimentation
resulting in 2 deaths so far) and 43 in Europe. Several million have completed soul integration since and live in isolated areas for
obvious reasons.

August 1, 2004 The Earth confirms that the original Atlantean Human template is the only acceptable Human form to be considered Wholly Human.

August 2, 2004 The Earth charges up all global crystal deposits that remain in the ground.

2005 Although the vast percentage of Velon were expelled from this quadrant in 2005, around 2 million remained by disguising themselves as other races, or by travelling back in time to remain hidden.

They use "chips" to disguise who they are so that even the most adept channeller will not be able to tell them from the purported entity that the channeller thinks he or she is in contact with. 90% of all channelled information that is received on this planet has originated from the Velon.

Furthermore, a certain number of Velon [approx 50] entered into the Earth environment and changed their frequency patterns so as to blend in. They remain here today.

February, 2005 As energies settled and reinforced, a second census was taken of human readiness to complete their part of The Human Plan. These
new energies brought about a further increase in the death rate and slowing of the birth rate.

2009 The Velon living on Earth within the illuminati are the victims of a coup by one of their own group, destroying their safe-house in
Virginia U.S.A. which exposes the Akashic information they have been hiding through use of an energy wall. The result is that
the Guardians of Earth are able to remove all but one of the members (who at the time performed the coup but was not known about),
along with the original human members including George Washington who had been kept alive through Velon technology. The
politicians and corporate leaders and military of the human population have filled in the gap but do not realize they are still under mind
control by the Velon remaining. A new safe-house is built in Mexico by the Velon.

We are now in a period of flux as the HAARP and Djard pillars are powered up in a futile attempt to prevent Earth from raising her Base Note frequency which connects humans to the planet. Anyone who cannot keep up to these rising cellular vibrations will not survive. Some may try to use technology to prolong their lives but the Earth is losing patience. We are becoming Wholly Human containing the whole soul within the physical body.

This increases our perceptual awareness to a symphony of experiences. Be prepared, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7KItkt8niLY

Someone has asked a question:

Anakashila wrote:
Herbert wrote:
28,000 Years Ago New energy matrix constructed around planet to support the shortly to arrive new human population. The
energy matrix is more commonly called the ‘Ley Line Grid’

20,000 Years Ago 6 regions of the Earth were re-colonised by souls from each of the thirteen soul origins. Each colonised region
began to explore our connections to the Earth. The full soul human template was adopted as the ‘standard
model’ for the human body.


Does he say who or how the new human population (homo sapien) was created and/or arrived?

Yes he does in his books and I just happen to have an excerpt from Project Human Extinction page 44:

Following the destruction of Atlantis, those members of the 6 non-physical soul races who chose to still be a part of this “human experiment” returned to Earth and colonised 6 regions of the planet. These regions were:

1. South America
2. Mesopotamia (the area around Sumeria)
3. Egypt
4. Britain, Ireland and Northern France
5. Tibet
6. Southern Greece Volcanic activity destroyed most of this region leaving only scattered islands now. (see The Fool’s First Steps)

Each region began its own investigation into how life could be lived and how best to interact with the Earth herself. They also began to try to understand the reasons for the loss of the higher brain functions.

One other “peculiarity” at this time was that there were no children.

A human being is defined within the Akashic, for this early stage of our development, as being someone of human form with the whole of the soul [all 50 dimensions of perceptual awareness] within the physical body.

At the time of Atlantis, [85,000 to 65,000 years ago] and up until about 12,000 years ago, the method of becoming human was for a soul to arrive on Earth, copy the human “etheric template” which was created by Earth [morphological field vortex] and wrap the soul with the Earth’s energy patterns to create a “physical” body – a process known as “adult birth” – this is probably the origin of the Adam and Eve story in the Bible.

We did not work out the process for bringing forth children until we had learnt how to divide the soul into its higher and physical functions.

Childbirth is achieved by attaching a very small amount of consciousness to the slowly developing foetus at about 16 days following conception; the level of consciousness is then gradually added to as the foetus develops, through birth, to puberty when the last “piece” of consciousness enters the body that is to be downloaded for that particular lifetime. We did not understand or fully explore this process during the time of Atlantis and so there were no children.
[End of Quote]

[Delight]

If something is true, then it will be seen anywhere it appears.
I like to pay attention to Karen Doonan who makes more sense to me than others.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=un9V9epuQTQ

[turiya]

Posted by turiya (here)

From the Robert Stanley Interview, Chris Thomas said:

In terms of Reptilian races & Reptiles in Human form, they no longer exist - all those energy patterns are gone.

On pages 158 and 159 [chapter 7] of The Human Soul, CT cites 40 different pseudonyms that the Velon have used to channel information to people on Earth....false information, that is.

Included amongst these are: Reptilians

Superwoo Radio George Kavassilas
w/ Cameron Day 10/27/2013

Audio Excerpt

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George Kavassilas: With the false-light understanding, what do you see in the way they want to play it out? I am not talking about the timing. I am not interested in the timing. But just as… for your idea on how they wish to play it out… when we look at the channelings, and the messages being disseminated… we look at the movies & just your understanding & feel the way this reality is flowing… Which way do you feel the way it’s headed & what sort of programs that they wish to implement onto humanity, as a whole, that you can see going on here?

Cameron Day: Well, that’s a big topic, but I think, first & foremost, that they want to keep humanity enslaved. That’s their primary goal, their primary #1 agenda. And, they’ll do just about anything they can to keep that in place, because they derive a tremendous amount of energy from the souls incarnated here.

So, how their going to do that… these are, again, the best liars in the universe, and they make many plans & many contingencies. But, one thing I think we need to all be very mindful of is the program, let’s call it, of the “ET Savior-ship”, where the ‘good-guy’ ETs are going to come in & save us… either, they’re going to save us from cataclysmic Earth changes, or they’re going to save us from our tyrannical governments. And they are going to institute an enlightened form of governance. And, perhaps, an enlightened monetary system, which is a contradiction in terms, so is enlightened governance. Because, any form of government – of control over another being, of control over the mind & body of a being from a central authority—Any type of hierarchy like that is not coming from the beings of the true light. This is coming from the demi-urge-ic beings.

And so, if they… who knows, they might even stage the invasion scenario, right, where there’s ‘bad’ ETs that are coming in. They’ll probably use the ‘Lizard’ guys, because they’re….

George Kavassilas: The modern-day version of the devil?

Cameron Day: Yeah, exactly. They’re the modern demons, the Reptilian ETs. And, of course, they’re out there, but again they’re all working together. So, the Lizards invade, and then the beautiful humanoid ETs come in and save us from the Lizards, and, you know, they’re 9-10 feet tall, and they look perfect & they live forever, and blah-bidi-blah...

And, they come in & everyone is like, “Oh, you’re so beautiful, you’re so wonderful.” And then, they say, “Oh yes, we didn’t want to intervene, we wanted to stay neutral (yuk, yuk, yuk) – as if they have ever NOT been intervening, here. “…But we wanted to stay neutral, you know, but we had to deal with those pesky Lizards…” And then, they’ll probably offer up a nice little DNA modification. “So oh, you know, we’d love to help you get your DNA back together, come on into our special little ‘chambers’.”

And I’m sure there will be a type of expansion that will be experienced, but it will be limited & it will strengthen that ‘Slave-Think’ mentality, as I call it. Where, we see them as our ‘Saviors’, as our ‘Superiors’, as the ‘Authority’, that we must listen to so they can govern us. And, it might be a nice ‘soft’ form of slavery, but it will still be a form of slavery, nonetheless.

George Kavassilas: Oh yeah, the playpen’s just going to expand. The borders & the boundaries of the playpen, they’re going to get really big – they’re going to go ‘cosmic’. And, because we’ve been in such a limited site for such a long time, people can’t see the borders anymore, cuz they’re going to go from planetary to being cosmic borders. And they’re going to think “totally free”. It’s a really good con.

Cameron Day: It’s a brilliant con. And they’ve set us very well for it. But, fortunately, we are a tricky bunch - us little humans, here. And, we tend to be very tenacious & get very upset when we find out we’re being deceived. And, as soon as we sense deception… I mean, not all of us, but a lot of us, as soon as we sense that, we grab a hold of whatever thread we can & we keep pulling & pulling & pulling, until we get some real truth.

And so, if any of those above scenarios do play out, I would encourage everyone not to go into those little ‘Healing Chambers’. Because, you might not like the end result. You might not even notice that you don’t like it for a very long time. But…

George Kavassilas: A very long time.

Cameron Day: Yeah. Somewhere along the way, you’re going to hit that dead-end. Or, really, even just realize that you are stuck in a hierarchy, you are enslaved to a hierarchy, you must take orders from the authorities above you. And those orders might be to manipulate & control & drain energy from the beings of another planet somewhere.

George Kavassilas: And the implementation of this authoritarian control… I feel people are not quite understanding how sophisticated that can be. When we look at Collectivism, I think is really important, you know, because its kind of their version of One-ness… their version of the Law of One. And the understanding of what it means to be One with everything. And what they’re creating is… their approach is more a collective hive-mind approach, rather than the natural order of being One with everything in life, of being in synchronicity & harmony with life. And so, the tool… cuz these beings, like you said earlier, Cameron, they’ve been around for a long time in this Universe. They’re really… they’re the best deceivers, manipulators & liars going around the Universe. We’ve wanted to become the best, so from a higher level, we contracted the best to challenge us as best as we could ever be challenged. And so, we got to realize just… On one level we need to have a healthy respect for their capabilities. And I feel once we do that, then we can really be able to overcome their challenges. Because, if we disrespect them completely, we have no regard for their capabilities, that’s when they’ve got you, really, because we’re still caught in perpetual game of resentment. And that internal division will continue to be within you, as a bang. So you’ll never actually overcome their programs as long you’re running that program.

So, once we understand how clever they are, you get to the point where you think, “Far Out!” So, the use of force for control in the Universe was the early days. There are beings that still do that, of course, because they don’t know any better, or haven’t progressed to more sophisticated levels of control. And when you start getting into the more sophisticated levels of control, you realized that they’re using Love against the people.

Cameron Day: Yeah. And what they’re doing is they’re starving everyone, right now—we’re in the starving phase—we’re being starved for love, so that they can then show up & appear to be loving. And we will just eat it up, because we have been missing that love for so long. We’ve been dwelling in darkness & separation for so long, that any little morsel of connected-ness & what feels like love, that we will just jump on it.

George Kavassilas: Well, we see that, even in our everyday lives, when we’re out & about, and let’s say, I got more of Big George that becomes President, and I am just out & about… People just look at you, uhmm, some of them, you know, don’t feel comfortable with you at all. But you see the people that are yearning for love & how they just attach to you. LOL, you know, there just like Cling-ons, and all of a sudden they just want to tell you their life story, & you’re trying to walk away & they’re following you & they’re still talking to you—its kind of a very strange scenario that takes place. But it happens because of the subconscious yearning for love.

Cameron Day: Yeah, exactly. And I do want to come back also to the point you made – that we do need to have respect for their capabilities. And so, when I disrespect them, its so that we can kind of see them as contemporaries—see them as peers.

George Kavassilas: I don’t think you’re disrespecting them. I feel that you’re just stirring them. You know, you’ve got to… its like that friendly banter, you know. I’m just going to use Australian terms—you got to be able to take the piss out of each other. Do you know what I mean?

Cameron Day: Right.

George Kavassilas: …to sh*t-stir one another. Because they’re enamored with their self-serving light, the glamour, ego—you know, they can’t handle it too well, I’ve come to know.

Cameron Day: Yeah, exactly. But see, the tricky thing with them is that, every bit of their power really depends on us believing in their deceptions. So if we can see through their deceptions, their power diminishes greatly, to where all that they have left is naked force & aggression, which, as you’ve said, they don’t use because they’ve already learned that it’s not effective.

George Kavassilas: Well, it becomes obvious, too. They expose themselves too quickly.

Cameron Day: Exactly. Naked aggression is naked because there’s no hiding it, right?

George Kavassilas: What you have is—I talk about the ‘Three Layers of Deception’, or the ‘Three Layers of Program’ being implemented on the humanity. We got the First Layer, which is in place now. People call it the Illuminati, and all that sort of business, of the ruling/controlling cabal. And, then, what we have coming into play on the planet is pretty much the ‘new face’ of the ‘old guard’, which is… and they’re going to introduce to us—their Cosmic Brethren, right. So you’ve got these ETs, and what we call the Orion Nordics, and beings that I’ve personally interacted with—these quite attractive beings, that come across as fairly angelic & whatsoever, at times. But its still going to be the ‘New Face’ of the ‘Old Guard’. Its just going to morph. And its still going to have that authoritarian flavor to it. So that’s ‘Layer Two’ that’s in the process now of being implemented.

Now ‘Layer Three’, to me, is the one that’s more concerning, because once we’ve gone through, emotionally, the roller coaster of the transition Layer One to Layer Two, because that’s part of prophecy, as well, right? You’ve got the false-Christ that has to come, and what have you—you’ve got to question who writes these prophecies, because too much its been run like a movie script, really. That scenario, to me, or a version of that, not identical to the way its been written, but something close to that needs to play out. Because they’ve been working it for thousands of years. They’re not going to put thousands of years of implementing these ideas & concepts & imprinting it into our DNA, and into the psyche of humanity for such a long period of time. They’re not just going to let that go to waste. There’s an agenda at play, here. And so, these are scenarios that need to play out, because they have been preparing us for this, you know, to implement these parts of their plans. So, they’re not going to deviate from that too much. There might be variations on the original idea, but pretty much, the generalized concept is still going to be there.

And, Layer Two, once we’ve gone through that, we’re just going to be so emotionally, I would say, wasted, exhausted, that when Layer Three comes in, and they promise, you know, this incredible cosmic boundaries that no one can see, incredible technologies. Its going to be all about love. People are going to be farting rainbows & burping butterflies. Its just going to be utopian in its expression.

For me, that is the one to look out for. Because, its going to be more difficult to actually discern about the authoritarian nature. Because everybody is going to be smothered with love, see? Its going to need a whole different approach. And I feel that there’s one thing left after that... and it’s us… see?

We don’t need anybody to come between us & the consciousness of the planet. Or, us & the consciousness of the Sun. Or, us & the consciousness of the Galaxy, or the Universe. We don’t need anyone or anything to come between us & that. We are that. Do you know what I mean? So, as long you have this idea or this concept that wants to come in over the top of who & what we truly are, that is something to look out for.

Cameron Day: Exactly. And see, the demi-urge has levels within it. Right? So, when you’re going through levels of the demi-urge, you feel like you’re making progress. You feel like at every transition point, that each initiation to the next level, your boundaries get more & more expanded, and it feels like progress. But a lot of these beings, and this is part of the work that I do, because I am sending them message loud & clear that they are enslaved in their hierarchy. And if they doubt it, try disobeying their orders from above, and see what happens. Its not a good thing.

So, one of the things that I do, for the beings that are on these more refined levels, when I am clearing something out, especially clearing out agreements, these beings actually hold counter-party copies of the agreements. Meaning that they are holding a copy of that agreement & deriving energy from it… just a trickle, but when you have millions of these agreements in your personal possession, or your vault, you have a tremendous amount of energy flowing to you.

And so, when I am addressing these beings, and I am destroying those counter-party-agreements, I inform them that… well, first of all, they’re forbidden from ever trespassing on my energy again, or the energy of the person I am doing this for, or helping to facilitate that with, informing them that they are forbidden from ever usurping that person’s energy in any way, shape or form. Because they are in violation of Universal Law—the law of do not harm. Because they are stealing energy, they are thieving energy from people based on manipulation & deceit. And I inform them that if they continue to attempt to violate that person’s sovereign energy, they will be forcibly sent to core of the galaxy for transmutation. But if there is not enough, let’s say, ‘goodness’ left in them to salvage, then the result is that they are destroyed.

Full interview:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=18EFfo6dS9s

turiya

[Gardener]

This is the most sense I have heard in a long time, thank you for posting Turiya, only half hour in so far.

[Delight]

Over and over, it occurs to me that IF there are many different paths, we can't all be expected to be "doing the same thing". However, the commonality with Chris Thomas and others is knowing 3D earth is changing and we want to "go with" being in a relationship with Earth and the truth. We are being covered up with various bits of information all trying to lower our frequency. The main distortion is away from self trust and turning to external agencies.

Karen Doonan does not listen to other people and receives her information from what she says is multiple sources of star system's energy signatures. She references Orion for example as being "extremely logical" in signature. One could endlessly debate the concepts. If one can get beyond words and definitions of the mind, there is a common directive to experience oneself and trust. We may connect with any frequency we can. The connection through the heart depends only on OUR energy signature to pick up what we are able to pick up.

Karen Doonan is alignment with what CT says at core. She along with others are bringing information that we can use to change our frequency. I recommend that anyone interested listen beyond the first segment (19 minutes) where a meditation is read. Karen Doonan's information is promoting discernment and empowerment and letting go of old baggage of the old 3D paradigm illusion overlaid.

This is such a wonderful time and feels just absolutely chaotic and we can relax into knowing we do each have a completely unique experience in it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VlEzbEWoSxM

[Freed Fox]

Posted by turiya (here)
They’ll probably use the ‘Lizard’ guys, because they’re….

George Kavassilas: The modern-day version of the devil?

Cameron Day: Yeah, exactly.

^People who just automatically think this way are every bit as brainwashed as those looking for a savior. More so, arguably.

[Flash]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)

Posted by turiya (here)
They’ll probably use the ‘Lizard’ guys, because they’re….

George Kavassilas: The modern-day version of the devil?

Cameron Day: Yeah, exactly.

^People who just automatically think this way are every bit as brainwashed as those looking for a savior. More so, arguably.

I am sorry to say Freed Fox that i think lizzards are not the modern day version of the devil. They have always been the devil

[Freed Fox]

Posted by Flash (here)
I am sorry to say Freed Fox that i think lizzards are not the modern day version of the devil. They have always been the devil

With respect, there's no real reason to think that Flash.

Native Americans had more of a reason to believe that white men were the devil, as did black people, for a long time. Were they right?

It's programming. Break it.

Never judge a book by its cover.

[Flash]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
I am sorry to say Freed Fox that i think lizzards are not the modern day version of the devil. They have always been the devil

With respect, there's no real reason to think that Flash.

Native Americans had more of a reason to believe that white men were the devil, as did black people, for a long time. Were they right?

It's programming. Break it.

Never judge a book by its cover.

i think my assessment is rather reality based, not beliefs based. However, on a much higher realm, they most probably have their usefulness and on a yet higher realm, they are part of our own shadow and finally they do not exist no more than i do.

And the cover can be quite nice or awful in my views, it is irrelevant.

[FireHorse]

Posted by turiya (here)
It seems that the quality & tone of your written words have entered the "way too serious" zone of the emotional spectrum. Seemingly charged & incensed, imo, with an intent to bring down the thread. In an area of endeavor that cannot be substantiated with hard factual evidence, but only subjective musings, it is suggested that in searching for your truth, onawah, that you consider taking care to not discard the most valued & precious quality that human beings have - their sense of humor - in the process of your search. Your truth is out there, somewhere, and is not to be found here. So, begone!

That will do it for today, tomorrow & forever after that.
Good day & good bye, onawah.

P.S. BTW, onawah, you could have researched this for yourself - all you had to do is enter "Dead Sea Scrolls" + Velon into your web browser (a google search) & this particular website is the first thing that comes up. And again, this is our last communication.

turiya

Onawah discovered the Parkes material around June of last year:
Simon Parkes Thread

And, then, showed up on our thread here:
Post 123

She started a thread here in 2012:
Scientists Postulate Extraterrestrial Genes In Human DNA
(a very interesting thread, indeed)

She's up to her eyeballs in conflicting information and that's enough to make anyone squirrelly. She wants concrete answers (just like the rest of us) to abstract questions and, apparently, they aren't coming fast enough to suit her. Anyone that cannot give her those answers is a target for hostility.

Keep doing what you are doing.

You do great research, know things the rest of us don't, find things we can't and share whatever you find SO WELL (that goes for you, too, Herbert!)

*BIG HUGS*

~FireHorse