"SET", the Egyptian God of Foreigners, Baphomet, and Entities Respected by Freemasonry

[johnf]

I am new to the shadow man dark man stuff, Simon talks about that a lot.
There is another contactee in my skype group, that has gone through hell with
that type of stuff, like other people see it etc.
Your thread here is specific, but I would love to talk more about Religion/Mystery Schools
vs what I think I know personally.
Bobd and I have compared notes on our Osiris experiences, I think that there is a diffence in running into an archetype, and being told about it.
Religion lays stuff on top of them as a magic manipulation.
I will have more to say later maybe, just wanted to get that out for now.

JohnF

[13th Warrior]

Set is the dark aspect which is opposed to the light (Horus) this relationship is the same as yin/yang.

Why do we say that the Sun/Son - SETs

So much of the esoteric knowledge has been purposely corrupted as to obfuscate the true teachings from the profane; while other perversions have occurred because of ignorance/misinterpretation.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watc...s#.Uw7SZvldXw8

Osiris died and was resurrected. Odin hung on a tree for nine days, travelled to the underworld and came back with many secrets. Jesus we know about.

The echo of the first two has niggled at me for years. I put such thoughts behind me during my two years with the Borg, but now I am free to muse as I wish. (One of the things I found most restrictive was when my study conductor empasised that we must never ever read any literature from other relgions or even denominations...thought police! )

Does anyone else wonder about these similarities? At one level, some may dismiss such mythology as primitive story-telling. Others may see deep mysteries hiding a deepr truth.

I am slowly coming to the feeling that there is indeed a deep truth that cannot be contained in any one religion.

Thoughts, anyone?

posted ~ a year ago(3/30/2012)

Chariklo

I saw what you said about Osiris, and was wondering, are Osiris and Odin the same?

In Rome, Mithras was a sun god, and, in Persia, he was a god of the morning sun. The Roman Mithras killed the Primeval Bull, mirroring the death of a Primeval Bull in the Persian religion.

Mithras and the Primeval Bull,
could be Osiris and Set,
Odin and Fenrir

Since the time he hung in the tree, he never eats which is another way of recognizing him in his disguise. The mysterious traveler who does not eat while others do, might be the Norse god Odin himself in disguise!

and Nimrod:

http://babylonrisingblog.com/Godvsgod3.html

Like I said, that one chapter alone is loaded with information. It shows how Haran died before his father Terah. In fact it totally elaborates on Genesis 11:28-32, giving us a lot more details about the whole affair as to why Abram was "called out of Ur of the Chaldees" in the first place. It also helps to explain the myth of Osiris as it relates to Nimrod.

For instance, we are all familiar with the "All Seeing Eye." But few understand where this whole idea came from. At some point, either before or after Nimrod's death, it would seem that he lost an eye.



Anuki, the servant that interpretted Nimrod's dream (and possibly the author of the tales of the Anunnaki?), said that part of the dream means "nothing else but the seed of Abram will slay the king in latter days." [Jasher chapter 27 tells how Esau (Abraham's grandson) fulfills this prophecy.] Thus, I see Anuki's interpretaion as symbolic of two things:

1) Nimrod's first death in the days to come (from that time).
2) Nimrod's coming second death in the latter days - those we call the Last Days.

He is there.

[johnf]

I would like to share a bit about my viewpoint on all this.
Osiris and Yeshua are both death and resurrection symbols/energies,
they go through shamanic dismemberment in the stories about them.
Shamanic dismemberment is diassembling the ego, so spirit can rebuild "self" closer to "Self".
You get reborn, you reinvent yourself in accordance with the greater good of all creation.
This is a rough thing for the western mind to grasp.
In my one vivid shamanic dismemberment visualization I was lying down, and was visually seeing my face from above, and the flesh suddenly melted off my skull, and then the skull disintegrated into dust.
some might find this frightening, and fears might come up about satanic rituals etc.
For me it was a very freeing relieving experience, and for people in this forum, maybe most people would read that and say yeah, awesome.
From there my body got rebuilt and I got an experience of oneness. This was an actual guided shamanic journey that i have on cd, made by Sandra Ingerman.
So that lays out how i think of the Osiris/Jesus stories on a positive plane.

The stories in what I call altered Christianity go like this:




That is a quick and funny look at it to keep it light.
However, mankind was less than perfect (the way we were created), so we were all damned ,and the big guy demands blood, and so he sends his son (whatever that means) to be murdered in our place, so we can be saved.
That to me does not evoke any benevolent energy into our lives or society.
So on one level we are saved, but on another Jesus was murdered because of our short comings, so we have that floating around in the back of our brains.
Then in various denominations, most of them, there are rituals where Christians drink Jesus's blood, and cannibalize him by eating bread, his flesh, more implanted guilt.

So originally the story was about taking our present selves, and putting aside the unwanted parts, then
being remade on a new level so we can live life in a more benevolent manner.
There are so many levels in reality that go into this invasion of the "sacred", helping activities etc.
Lets say the Mason's were good guys, some people (perhaps affected by non physical elements of a service to self nature), came along, and painted this other stuff over the original plans for the group.
I think this happened with the illuminati, the US, UN, etc, etc.

What I try to do is tune into the overall benevolent energy of the universe, and then look at the religious stories, history, family abuse etc, and let the good, real elements reveal themselves and then find groups and activities
that are expressing those energies, and take part in that.

Then there is the monotheistic nature of Judaism, and Christianity.
And If you look at the pantheons of Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Sumerian, Santeria, as a whole
the entire thing is basically a "monodeity", with multiple aspects, facets.

Astrology is another less anthropomorphic pantheon, explained as simply energies.
The various Gods/Goddesses often correlate directly to planets.
Horus/Mars/Aires, Hathor/Venus/Aphrodite, Ra/Zeus/Odin/Sun, just to throw a few out there.

Help me out here with Set/Typhon, what would the astrological element be?

So that was a mouthful, I hope it is not taken as dismantling of any above posts, but rather as a
way to work toward a unified theory of everything that integrates universal energies, theologies,
and human groups in general.

JohnF

[johnf]

I guess part of what I left out was the raising of Lucifer to a place almost equal to
God the father in western Christianity, whereas he was not as powerful originally.
Native Americans have Coyote/the trickster, and Set is very much like him, but where are the references for
Lucifer as trickster in the Christian pantheon? Loki of course is the trickster, and maybe can be thought of as directly opposed to Odin, not so sure about all that in the Norse, but the parallels are there in each cosmology.
Ok, done for now, maybe, this is a fun one!

JohnF

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

that is super thoughtful and interesting johnf.

i struggle with some of the things in christianity as well.
however christ himself was a wonderful example.
not to speak of the things demanded of him, for whatever reason that was.

i feel that he deserves no greater discredit than any of the others.

it was the fragility of christ's perfection that demanded his death more than anything, IMO.
people hate "different", they can smell it like blood in the water, like sharks.

they tore him apart like animals. it was neither God nor Jesus who caused the people to beat him,
torture him, etc. kill him on the cross. that was 100 percent human nature/capability, the same pain and shame people deal with even today,
at the hands of others, even here on the forum, people are capable of harm.

jesus never caused harm in any of the stories except maybe a grey area, where he "drove merchants from the temple".
I guess to the Jews of Jesus' time, getting driven out of the temple was a bit like 9/11 was for us.

he made huge waves with that particular disruption and they made a Bin Laden out of him.


I hope you can see how easy it is to hate someone who has been set up to be the bad guy.
Jesus is so easy to hate, because his sacrifice makes him seem like a "persona non grata", like a person who has only one function, to die.

remember he was a teacher, like Thoth, the instructor with the rod of guidance.
In many religions the Father-deity (god the father i guess lol) is the one who stirs up all the trouble on earth and gets the girls in trouble.

perhaps to satisfy this craze on earth, the divines cooked up a really good tale for jesus' appearance because he himself was a "monodivine", a person with many aspects that were later recorded as gospels and parables.

if only more people lived like he did, we would have 1,000,000,000,000 more saints and deities to talk about!



I get horribly mad at God and I even say JFC sometimes, but I try not to knock Jesus too much



p.s. Satan/Lucifer is compared to Roaring Lion pacing the earth and to a Serpent Wiser than the beast of the field, and the Dragon cast into the pit, the principalities of the air, this present darkness, etc.

he is also called the Deceiver, Johnf... for a reason. He deceives. like the clown in IT.

a painted smile and a horrible end.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
that is super thoughtful and interesting johnf.

i struggle with some of the things in christianity as well.
however christ himself was a wonderful example.
not to speak of the things demanded of him, for whatever reason that was.

i feel that he deserves no greater discredit than any of the others.

it was the fragility of christ's perfection that demanded his death more than anything, IMO.
people hate "different", they can smell it like blood in the water, like sharks.

they tore him apart like animals. it was neither God nor Jesus who caused the people to beat him,
torture him, etc. kill him on the cross. that was 100 percent human nature/capability, the same pain and shame people deal with even today,
at the hands of others, even here on the forum, people are capable of harm.

jesus never caused harm in any of the stories except maybe a grey area, where he "drove merchants from the temple".
I guess to the Jews of Jesus' time, getting driven out of the temple was a bit like 9/11 was for us.

he made huge waves with that particular disruption and they made a Bin Laden out of him.


I hope you can see how easy it is to hate someone who has been set up to be the bad guy.
Jesus is so easy to hate, because his sacrifice makes him seem like a "persona non grata", like a person who has only one function, to die.

remember he was a teacher, like Thoth, the instructor with the rod of guidance.
In many religions the Father-deity (god the father i guess lol) is the one who stirs up all the trouble on earth and gets the girls in trouble.

perhaps to satisfy this craze on earth, the divines cooked up a really good tale for jesus' appearance because he himself was a "monodivine", a person with many aspects that were later recorded as gospels and parables.

if only more people lived like he did, we would have 1,000,000,000,000 more saints and deities to talk about!



I get horribly mad at God and I even say JFC sometimes, but I try not to knock Jesus too much



p.s. Satan/Lucifer is compared to Roaring Lion pacing the earth and to a Serpent Wiser than the beast of the field, and the Dragon cast into the pit, the principalities of the air, this present darkness, etc.

he is also called the Deceiver, Johnf... for a reason. He deceives. like the clown in IT.

a painted smile and a horrible end.

The thing that causes me real concern about 'Jesus Christ' is the reference made to him in in the Bible as the (Morning Star)...



The Morning Star: Jesus or "Lucifer"?

In response to the question, "Is Jesus the 'Bright Morning Star', or is 'Lucifer'? I have always thought "Lucifer" was the devil, but now I am confused because I see the term also used of Christ?" by Dean VanDruff.


The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.

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2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.

Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?

Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.
This should be understood as a sardonic title for the "anti-christ" or beast. He claims to be "christ", right? He claims to be Messiah, and has his moment under the sun, but comes to be brought low ultimately. Contrast the real Bright Morning Star: He lives humbly, does not boast, is not arrogant, is submissive to the Father... even unto death. Then the Father raises Him to the highest place; in the morning so to speak.

Mat 23:12 "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
Jesus lives out the gospel: death first, resurrection second. Satan wants it all now, and will go down ultimately. Satan looks good at night, but goes down in flames in the morning. Jesus is in the tomb, but arises in the morning. Do you see the pattern? Who is your life most like? What are we encouraging in others, to follow Christ in the gospel, or to grab all you can now? The difference is as wide as Jesus and Satan.

In any case, "Lucifer" means "morning star", so it should not be used to describe Satan. Jesus is The Morning Star. Satan tries to look like Jesus and supplant Him sometime in the future, perhaps very near future, even claming to be Him. But let us understand the deception and that the true "Morning Star" told us this in advance through His Apostles and Prophets; and told us to "watch out".

2Th 2:3-5 (NAS) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?
A few more verses on the Morning Star, our Jesus Christ:

Nu 24:17 (NIV) "I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a sceptre will rise out of Israel..."
Mt 2:2 (NIV) and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

Mt 2:7-10 (NIV) Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him." After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.

Lu 1:76-79 (NIV) [Zechariah concerning John:] "And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him, to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."

John 1:7-9 (NIV) He [John] came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

Isa 9:2 (NIV) The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.

Mt 4:16 (NIV) "The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned."

Isa 60:1-2 (NIV) "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you."

John 8:12 (NIV) Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_morningstar.html

[johnf]

Tesla, "I saw what you said about Osiris, and was wondering, are Osiris and Odin the same?"
Not necessarily the same , but lets just focus on the tree thing.
Odin is hung on a tree, it gets complicated with Osiris because he is like the tree itself.

http://www.pyramidofman.com/Osiris-Djed.htm

Moira Timm's goes into the Djed being the tree of life, and the axis of the world/universe.

http://alignment2012.com/djed.html

And she calls Osiris himself the axis of the universe. In Yoga, perhaps the Sushumna, is the same as the Djed.
So the human body has it's axis.

Consider that every idea/object/planet/person, has a central axis which when the rest of the thing/system is aligned with this central channel it is more balanced, stable, etc on the micro level.
So since the self is balance and complete in itself, it can more easily provide for it's own healthy needs(good STS), create abundance, and move onto STO, and align with larger things.

So lets look at the world as a whole, it has it's axis, and as Egyptian/Atlantis mythology talks about it is not always stable,and has wobbled in the past.

The Egyptian religion is very OCD about planetary Stabilty, alignments with the stars etc.

The next step up might be the axis of the Solar system, which would be the sun's axis extended through
the solar system.
From there we get the axis of the Galaxy, which has a center, it's heart. Then there are Island universes consisting of clusters of galaxies with an axis, then the universe, and Multiverses, etc.

I am getting tired so I will leave it to someone else to bring the whole birth canal of the universe into this
and talk about the Yoni so that this discussion is more gender balanced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoni

In theology we usually have a human figure to embody these cosmological concepts to bring it home to fit it into
a human life, and human relationships, and human behavior.
Someone often comes along and tries to forge these ideas back into a fear based control system
fixated on domination, survival, and control of property.
Often this takes a very powerful angry figure that knows what is good for us and another that wants to mislead us, kind of a good cop/bad cop team that keep us imprisoned.

JohnF

[johnf]

Posted by jackovesk (here)

he is also called the Deceiver, Johnf... for a reason. He deceives. like the clown in IT.

a painted smile and a horrible end.

So we are describing an ego lying in order to dominate and own others?
Indeed that is the negative side of the trickster, adversarial ally.

The thing that causes me real concern about 'Jesus Christ' is the reference made to him in in the Bible as the (Morning Star)...



The Morning Star: Jesus or "Lucifer"?

In response to the question, "Is Jesus the 'Bright Morning Star', or is 'Lucifer'? I have always thought "Lucifer" was the devil, but now I am confused because I see the term also used of Christ?" by Dean VanDruff.


The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.

....................................

2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.

Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?

Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.
This should be understood as a sardonic title for the "anti-christ" or beast. He claims to be "christ", right? He claims to be Messiah, and has his moment under the sun, but comes to be brought low ultimately. Contrast the real Bright Morning Star: He lives humbly, does not boast, is not arrogant, is submissive to the Father... even unto death. Then the Father raises Him to the highest place; in the morning so to speak.

Mat 23:12 "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
Jesus lives out the gospel: death first, resurrection second. Satan wants it all now, and will go down ultimately. Satan looks good at night, but goes down in flames in the morning. Jesus is in the tomb, but arises in the morning. Do you see the pattern? Who is your life most like? What are we encouraging in others, to follow Christ in the gospel, or to grab all you can now? The difference is as wide as Jesus and Satan.

In any case, "Lucifer" means "morning star", so it should not be used to describe Satan. Jesus is The Morning Star. Satan tries to look like Jesus and supplant Him sometime in the future, perhaps very near future, even claming to be Him. But let us understand the deception and that the true "Morning Star" told us this in advance through His Apostles and Prophets; and told us to "watch out".

2Th 2:3-5 (NAS) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?
A few more verses on the Morning Star, our Jesus Christ:

Nu 24:17 (NIV) "I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a sceptre will rise out of Israel..."
Mt 2:2 (NIV) and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

Mt 2:7-10 (NIV) Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him." After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.

Lu 1:76-79 (NIV) [Zechariah concerning John:] "And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him, to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."

John 1:7-9 (NIV) He [John] came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

Isa 9:2 (NIV) The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.

Mt 4:16 (NIV) "The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned."

Isa 60:1-2 (NIV) "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you."

John 8:12 (NIV) Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_morningstar.html[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Well this is truly the interesting part of all these things to me, and that is that the morning star is Venus.
Quetzalcoatl in the Mayan is the morning star. Hathor is the same Goddess as Venus.
All these figures can be seen as embodiments of the feminine or love principle, in patriarchial societies, they were men kings.
Now the Law of one, as well as the Hylozoic stories talk about a group of beings who graduated the 3d density
on that planet, then came to earth, and have been guiding us since then.
The Egyptian/Greek pantheon was inherited from the Atlantean pantheon, as far as I can see it is the same in all three.
These people were trying to move mankind ahead, and graduate to the next level, and there were factions in Atlantis that wanted to control and dominate.
These folks, according to the Hylozoics material, created the whole concept and theology of sin, and damnation.

And got the majority to banish these priests/priestesses, and the idea is that that is when the Demiurge itself went to the dark side, because the majority bought into the idea, again a neutral entity, used for dark purposes at certain times.
Along with this we can look at the white light (another aspect of Venus), and the fact that it was probably booby trapped, and became the means by which souls are recycled over and over, repeating the same mistakes instead of learning and moving upward again back to source. Perhaps Lucifer before the fall. the light can show the way, or it can lead one to darkness and forgetfulness indeed. We have entire threads on this, Truman Cash's being and excellent one, that reveals the hidden tricksters that implant beings for their own limited purposes.

Are any of us inherently evil, or good? Or do we all have the Christ principle, the Allness within us?
That has the potential to divide against itself and it's fellows?

JohnF

[13th Warrior]

The morning star is non other then the rising sun/son...

Who rises above all in the heavens/sky; above mountains, clouds and stars...

The Son/Sun Exalted upon high is the Sun at noon...

Then the Sun/Son dies and the darkness rules; the Sun/Son Sets...

Darkness rules until the morning star once again rises in the East.

This is a daily cycle which is repeated as a yearly cycle (summer/winter)

Set would represent Saturn

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
The morning star is non other then the rising sun/son...

Who rises above all in the heavens/sky; above mountains, clouds and stars...

The Son/Sun Exalted upon high is the Sun at noon...

Then the Sun/Son dies and the darkness rules; the Sun/Son Sets...

Darkness rules until the morning star once again rises in the East.

This is a daily cycle which is repeated as a yearly cycle (summer/winter)

Set would represent Saturn

I've read in a few books that Set is represented by Sirius,
although I did wonder if the planets were also associated with the Egyptian gods.

Saturn was actually associated with Egyptian entity Heru the Bull of the Sky,
which fits closely with the Mithraic mythos of the slaying of the bull...

For the Egyptians Saturn was known as "Heru, the Bull of the Sky" or simply as "Heru the Bull" (Parker 1978.719). The bull was seen as a symbol of royal strength, fortitude, stability, power and virility. Through this symbol stability, the established power of the kingdom, was embodied and maintained. In many respects these are all attributes which we, today, ascribe to Saturn.

I think Saturn, to them, was the King's star, like Regulus is to the Europeans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky. With a visual apparent magnitude of −1.46, it is almost twice as bright as Canopus, the next brightest star. The name "Sirius" is derived from the Ancient Greek: Σείριος Seirios ("glowing" or "scorcher"). The star has the Bayer designation Alpha Canis Majoris (α CMa). What the naked eye perceives as a single star is actually a binary star system, consisting of a white main-sequence star of spectral type A1V, termed Sirius A, and a faint white dwarf companion of spectral type DA2, called Sirius B. The distance separating Sirius A from its companion varies between 8.2 and 31.5 AU.[18]

Sirius appears bright because of both its intrinsic luminosity and its proximity to Earth. At a distance of 2.6 parsecs (8.6 ly), as determined by the Hipparcos astrometry satellite,[5][19][20] the Sirius system is one of Earth's near neighbors; for Northern-hemisphere observers between 30 degrees and 73 degrees of latitude (including almost all of Europe and North America), it is the closest star (after the Sun) that can be seen with the naked eye. Sirius is gradually moving closer to the Solar System, so it will slightly increase in brightness over the next 60,000 years. After that time its distance will begin to recede, but it will continue to be the brightest star in the Earth's sky for the next 210,000 years.[21]

Sirius A is about twice as massive as the Sun and has an absolute visual magnitude of 1.42. It is 25 times more luminous than the Sun[7] but has a significantly lower luminosity than other bright stars such as Canopus or Rigel. The system is between 200 and 300 million years old.[7] It was originally composed of two bright bluish stars. The more massive of these, Sirius B, consumed its resources and became a red giant before shedding its outer layers and collapsing into its current state as a white dwarf around 120 million years ago.[7]

Sirius is also known colloquially as the "Dog Star", reflecting its prominence in its constellation, Canis Major (Greater Dog).[12] The heliacal rising of Sirius marked the flooding of the Nile in Ancient Egypt and the "dog days" of summer for the ancient Greeks, while to the Polynesians it marked winter and was an important star for navigation around the Pacific Ocean.

http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/s...usgodstar.html

Sirius, The God * Dog Star

The effect of Sirian energy and influences generated approximately 18 years ago, in 1993 / 1994 (the last cycle when Sirius A and B were closest), have created renewed interest in this most influential heavenly body. The history books and religions of the world have had much to say about the God * Dog star. This article reflects on our ancestors' beliefs and inspired insights into a great mystery ~ the mystery of the Dog Star and its influences on our little corner of the universe.

Sirius was an object of wonder and veneration to all ancient peoples throughout human history. In the ancient Vedas this star was known as the Chieftain's star; in other Hindu writings, it is referred to as Sukra, the Rain God, or Rain Star. The Dog Star is also described as "he who awakens the gods of the air, and summons them to their office of bringing the rain."

By the ancient Egyptians, Sirius was revered as the Nile Star, or Star of Isis. Its annual appearance just before dawn at the June 21 solstice, heralded the coming rise of the Nile, upon which Egyptian agriculture depended. This particular helical rising is referred to in many temple inscriptions, wherein the star is known as the Divine Sepat, identified as the soul of Isis.

For example, in the temple of Isis-Hathor at Dedendrah, Egypt, appears the inscription, "Her majesty Isis shines into the temple on New Year's Day, and she mingles her light with that of her father on the horizon." The Arabic word Al Shi'ra resembles the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian names suggesting a common origin in Sanskrit, in which the name Surya, the Sun God, simply means the "shining one."

For up to 35 days before and 35 days after our sun conjuncts the star Sirius ~ close to July 4 ~ it is hidden by the sun’s glare. The ancient Egyptians refused to bury their dead during the 70 days Sirius was hidden from view because it was believed Sirius was the doorway to the afterlife, and the doorway was thought to be closed during this yearly period.

July 4th is important in the Sirius cycle

Sirius, known in ancient Egypt as Sopdet (Greek: Σῶθις = Sothis), is recorded in the earliest astronomical records. During the era of the Middle Kingdom, Egyptians based their calendar on the heliacal rising of Sirius, namely the day it becomes visible just before sunrise after moving far enough away from the glare of the Sun. This occurred just before the annual flooding of the Nile and the summer solstice,[22] after a 70-day absence from the skies.[23] The hieroglyph for Sothis features a star and a triangle. Sothis was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a triad with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolised the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).[23]

I think my case becomes quite a big stronger now that I've found a July 4th reference while researching Set/Sirius

That the Masons knew about these things..

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Check it out:

http://www.souledout.org/nightsky/fo...rthofjuly.html

Fourth of July

Holiday and Holy Day!
The Fourth of July Begins ...
Meditation ... Sunrise to Noon
The Sun Sets ...
After the Fireworks ...
Midnight Delights ~ Look Up!


Holiday and Holy Day!

The Fourth of July is linked to the brightest star in the heavens, Sirius. Every year on July 4 from our Earth's position, our Sun is in conjunction with Sirius. Esoterically this star is our Spiritual Sun and is associated with liberation. According to ancient teachings, the concept of freedom resides in human consciousness because of the influence of this star system.

In that this Principle of Freedom is closely associated with the consciousness on Sirius, it governs the expanding initiations we reach as humans in our evolution to membership in the Spiritual Kingdom. This incredible principle aligns us with spirit instead of form, and invokes unity as freedom from duality, freedom from life centered in the lower three worlds of physical incarnation. From: The Principle of Freedom and Liberation

Astrologically, a conjunction is the strongest aspect celestial bodies can have. Our Sun exactly conjoins Sirius in the sign of Cancer at 14 degrees, which occurs around July 4–7. America's Independence Day is strongly linked to the conjunction of Sirius and our Sun!

Note: Interestingly enough Canada Day, July 1, marks Canada's independence from England. Bastille Day, the French Independence Day, is July 14. And the transfer of sovereignty in Iraq occurred with a surprise handover (2 days early) on June 28, 2004.

Independence/National Days

BTW: Another fascinating note is that the Dalai Lama, His Holiness Tenzin Gyatso, was born July 6, 1935 and George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States, was born July 6, 1946. Both men in their own unique way have been dedicated to increasing freedom in our world.

Annually on or near the Fourth of July the Earth and Sun are at their furthest distance from each other. This event plus the Sirius/Sun conjunction creates a significant spiritual alignment.

After the close of the Three Major Spiritual Festivals, in July, the earth’s orbit places our planet the furthest it gets from our physical sun. This astronomical event, known as earth at aphelion, occurs annually around July 3–7. The physical sun, though furthest from the earth, is now closest to, in conjunction with Sirius, our Spiritual Sun, while the planetary Hierarchy is in close alignment with the earth, responding to our invocative appeal during the recent Spiritual Festivals.

At this time a powerful relationship is set up on the galactic plane between our physical Sun and our spiritual Sun and between the Hierarchy and the earth. Energies from Sirius can now flow freely through our sun, the solar system and the Hierarchy to our earth, evoking a response in humanity and stimulating evolution. The Hierarchy steps down the potent incoming energies to assist humanity in their assimilation. From: The Galactic Planes

Dog Days
Sirius disappears in the Sun's embrace.

Aphelion Day
During the first week of July
Earth Is Farthest from the Sun.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1121289/pg1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeAk4tjqD4

[Chester]

Posted by PathWalker (here)
Interesting synchronisity. As David Wilcock is now releasing new article about the Luciferian way of thinking.

My point of view, as long as we live in dualism/polarity we NEED both sides.
Only when we start ascending beyond dualism we are ready to release the vested emotion in one pole over the other.

All paths lead to the ONE. The more excitement the more drama.

Luciferian philosophy is not Satanism and is not Christianity (roots in Zoroastrianism). It does encompass core, foundational elements of both which then shed actual "light" if you will.

Wilcock's continuous display of ignorance in this regard would be attributed to his youthful enthusiasm along with his love for the spotlight but he is terribly misleading.

[13th Warrior]

Mithras is a Persian sun god.

As a side note: I find it interesting that the Elves in Tolkien's story; reference to Gandalf as Mithrandir...

It would serve the well to view animal references such as the bull to be astrological in nature; the bull representing Taurus.

In the time of the Egyptian's the sun rose into Taurus during the vernal equinoxes.

Baphomet is a Templar creation that represents the unseen force often refered to as aether.

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Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
Mithras is a Persian sun god.

As a side note: I find it interesting that the Elves in Tolkien's story; reference to Gandalf as Mithrandir...

It would serve the well to view animal references such as the bull to be astrological in nature; the bull representing Taurus.

In the time of the Egyptian's the sun rose into Taurus during the vernal equinoxes.

Baphomet is a Templar creation that represents the unseen force often refered to as aether.

Sources please

Lots of people come in here and just "tell me like it is" withOUT sources.

[13th Warrior]

"The Secret Teachings of All Ages"

Manly Palmer Hall

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Wikipedia has a TON (not all of it but some of it) of esoteric/historical/mythical/religious articles.

I love those more than probably any other set of articles on their site.
It's harder for trolls and paid shills to mess those up than ones about science and conspiracy.

The only truth people will leave alone is religion.
The rest it seems like they try to destroy ASAP.

It's so weird/backward!!!

Anyhow thank you re: Mithras, I knew he was a Persian Sun God but in light of the boat routes etc. in the past,
these religions got a lot of mileage and were well known/spread over wide areas quickly.

There is a sacred bull in many mythologies, from Persia to Minoa to Egypt! and farther.

There is usually someone associated with darkness/chaos, like Apep and Set. Some have counterparts, some not.
Like Marduk and Tiamat, etc. Humanity striving against nature and chaos.

In the founding days, the Pangaea days

Way back when, as our grandpas would say.

p.s. any thoughts on the Twins (Dioscuri) and Cernunnos/Pan?
They were also pretty well known-far and wide.
waaaaay back when, lol

[13th Warrior]

Off the top of my head; the twins would be Gemini.

Cernunnos is the horned man/forest god of the Celts (Druid).

If you study this stuff with this in mind; that these teaching are based upon mans observation of nature/cycles as the primary way of understanding the creator (God).

"To know/understand God is to study his/her creation"

Also, note the axiom "as above so below" - man on Earth is represented by the "great man" in the heavens (12 signs of the zodiac)

[13th Warrior]

On-line copy:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/index.htm

Get comfy and put on your reading glasses there's some 750 pages to read...

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Found some really interesting stuff from Wikipedia today.

I googled Nubian Gods because of some funny comment on "Orange is the New Black", when Tasty talks about wishing she could time travel and pick up a Nubian boyfriend from the past. It made me think a bit and wonder if the Nubians had any connection to ancient Set worship or were carrying some earlier tradition related to the worship of Set.



This isn't the first thing I found, but it's a pop culture reference now that most of you will immediately recognize.

While I was trying to determine a date when Set worship first became a defined religion, I stumbled across a character in Wikipedia called "King Scorpion".
He apparently carried a mace bearing the first and earlier known depiction of what we earlier referred to as the "Set Animal", which is what I believe to be kind of a primitive Blackface depiction of a foreign race (to the south!) by the earlier Egyptians.



The Scorpion King was a real person, however, and he was one of the first known champions of Set... except in the film, the Scorpion King is a follower of Anubis, right? @@
Most people would notice a similarity between the words "Nubia" and "Anubis". That's all some historians have in many situations -- fragments of names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Scorpion

The only pictorial evidence of his existence is the so-called Scorpion Macehead, which was found in the Main deposit by archeologists James E. Quibell and Frederick W. Green in a temple at Nekhen (Hierakonpolis) during the dig season of 1897–98.[8] It is currently on display at the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford. The stratigraphy of this macehead was lost due to the methods of its excavators, but its style seems to date it to the very end of the Predynastic Period.[9]

The Scorpion Macehead depicts a single, large figure wearing the White Crown of Upper Egypt. He holds a hoe, which has been interpreted as a ritual either involving the pharaoh ceremonially cutting the first furrow in the fields, or opening the dikes to flood them. The use and placement of the iconography is similar to the depiction of the pharaoh Narmer on the obverse side of the Narmer Palette. The king is preceded by servants, the first in row seems to throw seeds from a basket into the freshly hacked ground. A second servant (his depiction is partially damaged) wears a huge bundle of grain sheafs, which strengthens the interpretation of a seed sowing ceremony, possibly connected to the Sed festival or a founding ceremony. Maybe Scorpion II was the founder of Nekhen or Buto, which would explain why the macehead was found in Hierakonpolis. Above the servants a row of standard bearers precedes the king. They carry the same standards as seen on the Narmer palette. Below the royal servants a road and a landscape with peoples and houses is preserved.[10][11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sed_festival

The Sed festival (ḥb-sd, conventional pronunciation /sɛd/; also known as Heb Sed or Feast of the Tail) was an ancient Egyptian ceremony that celebrated the continued rule of a pharaoh. The name is taken from the name of an Egyptian wolf god, one of whose names was Wepwawet or Sed.[1]

The less-formal feast name, the Feast of the Tail, is derived from the name of the animal's tail that typically was attached to the back of the pharaoh's garment in the early periods of Egyptian history. This tail might have been the vestige of a previous ceremonial robe made out of a complete animal skin.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqada

Naqada is a town on the west bank of the Nile in the Egyptian governorate of Qena. It was known in Ancient Egypt as Nbwt and in classical antiquity as Ombos /ˈɒmˌbɒs/. Its name derives from ancient Egyptian nbw, meaning gold, on account of the proximity of gold mines in the Eastern Desert.

Naqada comprises some villages such as Tukh, Khatara, Danfiq and Zawayda. It stands near the site of a necropolis from the prehistoric, pre-dynastic period around 4400–3000 BC. Naqada has given its name to the widespread Naqada culture that existed at the time, here, and at other sites including el Badari, Gerzeh and Nekhen (Hierakonopolis). The large quantity of remains from Naqada have enabled the dating of the entire culture, throughout Egypt and environs.
Sickle made of flint, Egypt, Naqada period, end of the fourth millennium BC, Dagon Museum, Haifa

The town was the centre of the cult of Set, and large tombs were built there around c. 3500 BC.[1]

Dedun of Nubia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedun

Dedun (or Dedwen) was a Nubian god worshipped during ancient times in that part of Africa and attested as early as 2400 BC. There is much uncertainty about his original nature, especially since he was depicted as a lion, a role which usually was assigned to the son of another deity. Nothing is known of the earlier Nubian mythology from which this deity arose, however. The earliest known information in Egyptian writings about Dedun indicates that he already had become a god of incense by the time of the writings. Since at this historical point, incense was an extremely expensive luxury commodity and Nubia was the source of much of it, he was quite an important deity. The wealth that the trade in incense delivered to Nubia led to his being identified by them as the god of prosperity, and of wealth in particular.

He is said to have been associated with a fire that threatened to destroy the other deities, however, leading many Nubiologists to speculate that there may have been a great fire at a shared complex of temples to different deities, that started in a temple of Dedun, although there are no candidate events known for this.

Although mentioned in the pyramid texts of Ancient Egypt as being a Nubian deity,[1] there is no evidence that Dedun was worshipped by the Egyptians, nor that he was worshipped in any location north of Swenet (contemporary Aswan), which was considered the most southerly city of Ancient Egypt. Nevertheless, in the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, during the Egyptian rule over Kush, Dedun was said by the Egyptians to be the protector of deceased Nubian rulers and their god of incense, thereby associated with funerary rites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia









Super interesting stuff right? lol

p.s. Nubians sold incense and Set (at least Dedwen!) became their god of commerce. the commerce soon likely threatened Egypt's wealth, and the Egyptians put them down like dogs, relegated the status of "outsider/foreigner" to blacks and jews, and everything changed.

it's also interesting to note that during the exodus of the jews from egypt, they followed God in the form of both a cloud (by day) and a pillar of fire (by night), which incidentally is what incense does.

so you tell me, who did the jewish people follow out of egypt? it's creepy cool and mysterious.

(also some of my tower dreams involved smoke presumably from incense and it was not a good dream. it was scary!)



p.p.s. also the lion on King Scorpion's belt, could be a reference to the Nubian Dedwen lion or Set animal. So if in Nubia Set was a Lion, did that influence Israel's adoption of the Lion as its symbol of deliverance?

the Lion of the Tribe of Judah...



makes a LOT MORE SENSE NOW