Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Atlas]

Thanks, found it.

The poster is Orkun Altintaş from Istanbul, Turkey.


He is answering Dirk Borgsmiller's comment: Have to really wonder what is going on with Malaysia military. Only today decide to release details of tracking the plane back over the Malay peninsula. Have thousands of people and resources focused on wrong area. Why?

Posted by ERK (here)
This comment is on Facebook on Malaysia Airlines page:

"Orkun Altintaş My cousin from the army,This information is confidential.Malaysia military aircraft struck.They fear that the Chinese government.was placed into the jamming aircraft.Concealing information.Plane is found, but it is hiding.This is a BİG game.Be realistic.They closed up the facts.
FALLING THIS AIRCRAFT, IT REDUCED..."

[Elainie]

Major Ed Dames
3 hrs ·
Just got back after being out on another field assignment. As you can imagine, I have received several messages about flight MA #370. But the real question is not “where” the plane is, but rather "what happened". Next weekend is a very important live event that I’m currently preparing for so I may pass this project on to the RV Community to set up a few cues and runs the targets. As some of you know, we’ve done a few of these types of targets in the past including sessions related to downed aviator Steve Fossett in which I have included the prediction video below. A year later after our live prediction on national radio, our information was confirmed on national news…
https://youtube.com/watch?v=j9gEzDYgaw8

Remote Viewing Steve Fossett (Ed Dames)
Learn Remote Viewing today at www.LearnRV.com. This rare interview with Major Ed Dames reveals the shocking truth surrounding the disappearance of Steve Foss...
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[Harley]

01.15 Malaysia’s civil aviation chief, Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, has said Malaysia had not been officially informed by China about the satellite images, which he said he was learning about from the news. He said if Beijing informs them of the coordinates, Malaysia will dispatch vessels and planes immediately.

"If we get confirmation, we will send something,” he told the Associate Press news agency. Until then, he urged caution. “There have been lots of reports of suspected debris.” - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rash-live.html

Note to Self: NEVER FLY WITH MALAYSIA!

[Roisin]

Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
01.15 Malaysia’s civil aviation chief, Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, has said Malaysia had not been officially informed by China about the satellite images, which he said he was learning about from the news. He said if Beijing informs them of the coordinates, Malaysia will dispatch vessels and planes immediately.

"If we get confirmation, we will send something,” he told the Associate Press news agency. Until then, he urged caution. “There have been lots of reports of suspected debris.” - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rash-live.html

Note to Self: NEVER FLY WITH MALAYSIA!

So is it any wonder why that plane hasn't been found yet? This is just.... unbelievable.

[Gardener]

China had this satelite picture 4 days ago???? I guess they were under a lot of pressure to get closure!

[gripreaper]

Look, if you have a thin dime sitting in your driveway, rest assured, satellite can see it. I call total on any reports stating that they don't know EXACTLY what happened, and where.

[Operator]

Posted by ERK (here)
Major Ed Dames
3 hrs ·
... Next weekend is a very important live event that I’m currently preparing for ..

Says the teacher of Courtney Brown ...

Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
01.15 Malaysia’s civil aviation chief, Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, has said Malaysia had not been officially informed by China about the satellite images, which he said he was learning about from the news. He said if Beijing informs them of the coordinates, Malaysia will dispatch vessels and planes immediately.

"If we get confirmation, we will send something,” he told the Associate Press news agency. Until then, he urged caution. “There have been lots of reports of suspected debris.” - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rash-live.html

Note to Self: NEVER FLY WITH MALAYSIA!

Posted by Gardener (here)
China had this satelite picture 4 days ago???? I guess they were under a lot of pressure to get closure!

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Look, if you have a thin dime sitting in your driveway, rest assured, satellite can see it. I call total on any reports stating that they don't know EXACTLY what happened, and where.

Yes, I heard on MSM that the Chinese have these images since last Sunday ... are they deliberately creating the noise
that Courtney was talking about ? Is that why Ed Dames says it is more important why the plane is missing ?

[Tesseract]

Former director of NTSB says the objects in the satellite images are most likely not the missing aircraft. [watch video]

I too, struggle to see how you could get a bigger than 20 x 20 m square from a 777 jet - unless there are multiple large fragments clumped together somehow.

http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2014/0...es-flight-370/

[andresrx1782]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Look, if you have a thin dime sitting in your driveway, rest assured, satellite can see it. I call total on any reports stating that they don't know EXACTLY what happened, and where.

Of course is bull, you cannot turn off all the tracking technology, disappear completely from ground radar, have two happy go lucky guys with fake passports on the plane, and tell me that a blurred square floating god knows where is the wreckage of an airplane. Let's pray for the departed and pursue the truth.

[Harley]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rash-live.html

03.40 Chinese Premier Li Keqiang has said as long as there remains a “glimmer of hope” China will not stop the search for the missing plane and called for the “relevant party” to step up coordination.

"This is an international and large-scale search operation involving many countries. The Chinese government has asked the relevant party to enhance coordination, investigate the cause, locate the missing plane as quickly as possible and properly handle all related matters,” Li told reporters.

The so-far fruitless search for the plane entered its sixth day on Thursday, and China has dispatched multiple aircraft, ships and satellite in the multinational search mission.

Geesh, I hate to be the one to start another conspiracy theory but the redirect of the search in the opposite direction by an unsubstantiated report made by an unnamed official in the Malaysian military . . . The huge circus and goat-rope going on between the Malaysian civil and military authorities . . . And what looks like the apparent reluctance of the Malaysian Military to return to the original search area to follow up on the Chinese satellite report?

Yeah, read between the lines.

Far more shocking things have come to be known as facts in the past.

[Elainie]

From the WSJ comes this article:

Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours
Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say


By ANDY PASZTOR CONNECT
Updated March 13, 2014 12:50 a.m. ET
Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein in Kuala Lumpur briefs media on the search mission on Wednesday. Reuters
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

WSJ has confirmed that the pilot had the ability to manually turn off the transponder on Flight MH370. A mid-air catastrophe could have destroyed it. Why is the transponder so significant? WSJ's Jason Bellini has #TheShortAnswer.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.

U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.


More
The Tricky Science of Radar Tracking
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.

But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.

In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.

The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.

Admiral Le Minh Thanh at a media briefing on Phu Quoc Island, Vietnam. Reuters
Boeing officials and a Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment.

The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.

Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."

The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.

A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.

Earlier Wednesday, frustrations over the protracted search for the missing plane mounted as both China and Vietnam vented their anger over what they viewed as poor coordination of the effort.

Government conflicts and national arguments over crises are hardly unique to the Flight 370 situation, but some air-safety experts said they couldn't recall another recent instance of governments publicly feuding over search procedures during the early phase of an international investigation.

China and Vietnam venting their frustration with the slow progress of the mission and what they view as poor coordination of the effort to find Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Allison Morrow reports on the News Hub. Photo: Getty Images.

Authorities radically expanded the size of the search zone Wednesday, which already was proving a challenge to cover effectively, but the mission hadn't turned up much by the end of the fifth day.

Also on Wednesday, a Chinese government website posted images from Chinese satellites showing what it said were three large objects floating in an 8-square-mile area off the southern tip of Vietnam. The objects were discovered on Sunday , according to the website, which didn't say whether the objects had been recovered or examined.

Ten countries were helping to scour the seas around Malaysia, including China, the U.S. and Vietnam. Taiwanese vessels are expected to be on the scene by Friday, with India and Japan having also agreed to join the search soon.

In all, 56 surface ships were taking part in the search, according to statements issued by the contributing governments, with Malaysia providing 27 of them. In addition, 30 fixed-wing aircraft were also searching, with at least 10 shipboard helicopters available, mostly in the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam.

China's government was especially aggrieved. More than 150 of the 239 people on board are Chinese, and family members in Beijing have at times loudly expressed their frustration over the absence of leads.

More than a dozen Chinese diplomats met with Malaysian authorities in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday as tension grew over the search.

"At present there's a lot of different information out there. It's very chaotic and very hard to verify," foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in a regular press briefing. "We've said as long as there is a shred of hope, you can't give up."

The day before, Beijing pointedly pressed Malaysia to accelerate its investigation, which has been hampered by false leads on suspected debris and conflicting reports on radar tracking.

Vietnam on Wednesday suspended its search flights after conflicting reports from Malaysia that authorities had tracked the plane to the Strait of Malacca before it disappeared.

Gen. Rodzali Daud, Malaysia's air force chief, denied saying he had told local media that military radar facilities had tracked the plane there, saying they were still examining all possibilities. Vietnam later resumed normal search sweeps.

You can help search for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, thanks to a website called Tomnod.com. It allows anyone to comb the area where rescue workers are searching using satellite images. The WSJ's Deborah Kan speaks to DigitalGlobe's Luke Barrington.

Malaysian authorities divided the search area into several sectors on either side of the country, as well as areas on land.

The challenge, said Lt. David Levy, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy's Seventh Fleet, isn't so much coordination as the sheer size of the area involved. The search grids are up to 20 miles by 120 miles, and ships and aircraft employ an exhaustive methodical pattern "like mowing your lawn" in their search for the plane, he said.

U.S. defense officials sought to play down any suggestion that the Malaysian government was doing a poor job with the search.

"It is not unusual for searches to take a long time, especially when you are working with limited data," one official said.

Aviation experts say the absence of an electronic signal from the plane before it disappeared from radar screens makes it difficult to pin down possible locations. Some radar data suggested the Boeing 777 might have tried to turn back to Kuala Lumpur before contact was lost, a detail that prompted a search for the plane on both sides of the Malaysian peninsula.

A member of Singapore's military looks out of a transport plane over the South China Sea to search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on Tuesday. Reuters
A U.S. Navy P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft has been searching the northern Strait of Malacca, west of Malaysia, while destroyers USS Kidd and USS Pinckney have been deploying helicopters in the Gulf of Thailand to the east.

So far the U.S., like other nations taking part in the search, has had no success. Many aviation experts are concluding that searchers might not have been looking in the right places. Even if the plane broke up in midair, it would have left telltale traces of debris in the ocean. The cracks now emerging between some of the participants in the search could make it even more difficult.

Diplomatic feuds over air disasters have generally erupted over the conclusions of the investigations, long after the initial search is over.

The results of the 1999 crash of an Egyptair Boeing 767 en route to Egypt from New York, which killed 217 people, spawned a dispute between Washington and Cairo that strained ties for years. The National Transportation Safety Board concluded the plane's co-pilot purposely put the twin-engine jet into a steep dive and then resisted efforts by the captain to recover control before the airliner slammed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nantucket. Egyptian authorities insisted the evidence indicated mechanical failure.

Years earlier, Washington and Paris butted heads over the investigation of an American Eagle commuter turboprop that crashed in 1994 near Roselawn, Ind. The French objected to the NTSB's conclusions that French regulators failed to take actions that could have prevented the accident.

—Jon Ostrower, Trefor Moss, Gaurav Raghuvanshi and Josh Chin contributed to this article.

[Elainie]

"FINDING THE NEEDLE
The scale of the search for Flight MH370
By Richard Johnson and Denise Lu, Published: March 12, 2014
The search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 is being compared to a quest for a needle in a haystack. Is it really that tough to find a 210-foot-long plane? You be the judge."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ian-air-scale/






When exactly MH370 disappeared from Malaysian radar screens has become the source of much confusion today. The Guardian’s China correspondent, Tania Branigan, gives us this overview.

Details of when MH370 was last seen are highly confusing, so bear with me:

When the flight first went missing, Malaysia Airlines said repeatedly that its last contact was at 2.40am, two hours into the flight. Many people assumed this was a mistake because the last flight data available on line stopped abruptly at 1.20am, when the plane was over the South China Sea, to the east of the Malay peninsula, heading north-east towards Vietnam - and the airline subsequently revised its position, saying it was last seen at 1.30am.

This remains the last definite sighting because this was when the plane’s transponders last communicated with civil radar systems. It is assumed that they were then switched off or failed for some reason (experts say failure is rare but possible).

All of this made it very unclear why search teams were looking to the west of the peninsula, in the Strait of Malacca, as well as to the east, where the plane was last see - even given the suggestion by officials that the plane might have tried to turn back.

But on Tuesday, Malaysian media reported that the air force chief had said the plane was spotted by military radar at 2.40am close to a tiny island in the Strait of Malacca - to the west of the peninsula - and Malaysia Airlines suggested the flight might have been trying to head back to Kuala Lumpur, the airport from which it took off. The fact the timing coincided with the airline’s initial statements made people question how long the military had known of a possible sighting.

On Wednesday the air force chief then denied making the remark - though he did not say whether or not there had been a sighting at 2.40am - and posited a third possible last sighting, by military radar, at 2.15am, 200 miles northwest of Penang - in other words, far north of any previous sightings, off the coast of Thailand.

Adding to confusion even further, on Thursday a Malaysian envoy to Beijing told families the last sighting was at 2.40am in the Malacca Strait - as previously suggested.

This appears to be the key issue: the 2.15am and 2.40am sightings are on military radar, which detects and can approximately identify civilian aircraft, but does not communicate with them as civil radar would do. So on its own, this data says that a plane like the one that has gone missing was detected - but cannot establish for certain that the plane was MH370. It needs to be cross-checked with other information - such as what other flights would have been in the area, and whether there are any other readings of the craft between the military radar plot and its last definite location (over the South China Sea). The civil aviation chief has also noted that the plane might have been able to fly below the radar.

Unfortunately, the Malaysian authorities have offered no details or clarification at this stage so it is unclear how far they have got in confirming or dismissing the various sightings.

[Roisin]

Search Planes Find No Sign of Missing Jet in Area Flagged by Chinese Satellites

http://www.voanews.com/content/searc...s/1870189.html

Malaysia: No Debris at Spot Shown on China Images

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...mages-22891309

[Roisin]

I highlighted some of those paragraphs that I think are important in this article. That the plane may have flew on for another 4 hrs after its last contact,brings up another whole new batch of new theories for what happened to it. But based on this article, the main sentiment seems to be focusing on a forced take-over... a hijacking.

Posted by ERK (here)
From the WSJ comes this article:

Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours
Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say


By ANDY PASZTOR CONNECT
Updated March 13, 2014 12:50 a.m. ET
Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein in Kuala Lumpur briefs media on the search mission on Wednesday. Reuters
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

WSJ has confirmed that the pilot had the ability to manually turn off the transponder on Flight MH370. A mid-air catastrophe could have destroyed it. Why is the transponder so significant? WSJ's Jason Bellini has #TheShortAnswer.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.

U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.


More
The Tricky Science of Radar Tracking
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.

But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

A.

[Antagenet]

http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.mx/201...ulate.html?m=1

This looks like a plausible theory.

"I think the flight deck was compromised. The timing, an hour into the flight, the flight attendants would have finished drink service to first class passengers and taken coffee or meal service to the pilots. This would be a time the door open. I believe the terrorists turned the transponder off. They told the captain to fly the plane toward a different city. Hong Kong comes to mind, but they could have turned back to Singapore, or head anywhere in range with one mission in mind: Create another 911 event. "

[Harley]

Posted by ERK (here)
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

That would be from the ACARS which Roisin mentioned Here. It is a system which monitors and logs the operating parameters of the aircraft's vital components (engines, etc) for maintenance purposes and transmits that data over a datalink at predetermined time intervals (say every 30 minutes) to the airline company, engine manufacturer, etc.

Note that this is not one of the black box recorders (which don't transmit anything except a locator beacon after a crash, etc), it's transmissions are not monitored by Air Traffic Control, and I'm not very confident that they will be able to extract any info from it regarding Heading, Altitude, Airspeed, etc (although they may be able to come up with some good 'guess-tamits).

The ACARS is a subscription service (not mandatory) but yes, it was installed on this aircraft. The Malaysians had been asked about it early on in the investigation and they declined to make a comment.

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WSJ has confirmed that the pilot had the ability to manually turn off the transponder on Flight MH370. A mid-air catastrophe could have destroyed it.

But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.

I don't know why the huge uncertainty about the plane being capable of flying without it, unless this is a comment strictly from the media. The experts certainly know better. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the plane can fly just fine without the transponders, as well as without most of the other avionics.

And the rest of that article sounds eerily similar to my Fictional Account Posted Here.

Kinda makes me wonder if the US hasn't been paying attention?

Sometimes Fiction becomes Fact.

[Roisin]

Rolls Royce, the engine manufacturer is the place where that transponders information was relayed to. Those pings were sent in 30 min. increments to their center from that plane. Yet, it took them 5 days to analyze the data from those pings that, according to unverified reports, they continued to get 4 or 5 hrs after the last contact the control tower had with that plane? At any rate, the theory that they continued to fly another 5 hrs is based on the data that Rolls Royce has finally released to authorities ... information that those authorities supposedly have only now been notified of.
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Interesting theory Harley. Thanks for posting the link to it for us to read over it again. Definitely a plausible theory even though you only meant for it to be fiction.

Also, someone disabled the GPS and communications transponders but they apparently did not disengage the ACARS system. That transponder was will pinging away and sending data to Rolls Royce's ACARS center. If that were not so, there would be no reports today about how that plane continued to fly for 4 or 5 more hours after contact was lost via radio and GPS.

[Harley]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rash-live.html

08.45 The Wall Street Journal has calculated that if the flight MH370 did
fly for an additional four hours, it could be anywhere in this circle:



A flight time of four additional hours after the 777 disappeared means
the plane could have flown on for about 2,200nm. Wall Street Journal's
aerospace and Boeing reporter tweets:

How did we calculate 2,200nm? We took #MH370 480 knots filed and
plotted out from intersection IGARI, near the 777's last known position.

09.10 The flight code MH370 will be "retired" as a mark of respect to the passengers and crew, Malaysia Airlines has announced. It said in a statement:

"As a mark of respect to the passengers and crew of MH370 on 8 March 2014, the MH370 and MH371 flight codes will be retired from the Malaysia Airlines’ Kuala Lumpur- Beijing-Kuala Lumpur route.

With effect from 14 March 2014, the new flight number to replace MH370 and MH371 will be:-

MH 318 – Kuala Lumpur - Beijing

MH 319 – Beijing - Kuala Lumpur

There are no changes to the frequency of our services and we will continue to operate double daily services to Beijing.
Our thoughts and prayers remain with the families of our colleagues and passengers of MH 370."

09.35 The Telegraph's Beijing correspondent Malcolm Moore has been trying to contact Rolls Royce in relation to the Wall Street Journal story suggesting that US investigators have access to "data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing 777's [Rolls Royce] engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program."

However, he's had no luck.

Malcolm says that under International Civil Aviation Organization rules, the data from the engines has to be handed to investigators and cannot be simply made public.

09.45 The press conference is underway, with Malaysia’s defence and acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein denying reports that the plane stayed in the air for several hours after losing contact.

They are "inaccurate", he says.

09.55 Mr Hussein also said that China had told Malaysia the satellite photos were released "by mistake and did not show any debris".

09.57 Ahmad Jauhari Yahyain, Malaysia Airlines chief executive, insisted that Rolls Royce and Boeing received no more contact with flight MH370 after 1.07am on Saturday.

Sounds to me like Malaysia wants to be done with it. They continue to argue with and discount everything that is put forth.

But the families of the passengers in China are raising hell now, demanding to see the president.

Something just doesn't feel right.

[Calz]

Story now being denied ... yet they are not offering any "evidence" to verify (at least publically).

_____________


Officials dispute report that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 kept flying for hours

By Jethro Mullen, CNN
updated 5:49 AM EDT, Thu March 13, 2014


Reports suggesting the missing Malaysia Airlines plane kept flying for four hours after its last reported contact are inaccurate, Malaysia's acting Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Thursday.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/13/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

[Roisin]

That report was unverified right from the get-go so to now read that officials are denying its veracity is not surprising.