Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Roisin (here)

Posted by Gardener (here)

AZ---->So, now, well... I am waiting for it....

Solution?

Chip everyone flying anywhere?

Idk

Not everything sinks
500 seat cushions?

Just now seeing this.... who came up with the "AZ"?

What a coincidence but didn't see your post and then Silentfeather's post quoting that quote too with the AZ in it as I must have still been typing out my long post here about Kazakhstan.

Anyhoo.,... who ever came up with the "AZ" ... good work because it sorta matches Kazakhstan.

It was a snippet from a post by Amzer Zo.....(AZ)

[Sidney]

I would just like to throw my two cents in here. The thing is, the world is surveilled 24/7 via satellites. Billions of people are watched/recorded daily. One of the crimes against humanity (911) regardless of who or what hit those buildings, was accomplished with AIRPLANES (according to the official story).
The technology that is available to the authorities of the world is so far in advance of what we know or understand, that IMO there is absolutely no reason, that every plane on earth could not be traced. And for a huge 777 to just disappear for this long (whether or not it eventually shows up or not), is not an accident, and most likely has been a deliberate and planned event by someone much higher up than the pilots. Even if the plane is found, I will never believe any official explanation given.

Due to the extreme nature of 911 and the following war, there was every reason on earth for all planes be fitted with an indestructible gps monitoring system. It is, for me a no-brainer and this whole thing stinks to high heaven of a false flag, for whatever reason, which ultimately will lead to anything but good. I am just disgusted. Serieously

[Atlas]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
Malaysian woman claims to have seen missing MH370 in the water

She said she had taken flight SV2058 that left Jeddah at 3:30am Saudi time (8.30am Malaysian time) and after the plane flew past the southern Indian city of Chennai, she saw something strange in the ocean. “It looked like an aeroplane,” said the mother of 10.

She said that on March 14, she lodged another police report in Sentul, hoping the Department of Civil Aviation would take her seriously. She said the aircraft had what looked like floats on its side but a large part of it was under water.

I clearly saw the time, it was about 9:30am (2:30pm Malaysian time). My son-in-law, a policeman, was convinced that I had seen an aircraft and asked me to lodge a police report the same day at Sentul police headquarters in Kuala Lumpur. My other children were afraid that I could be detained for filing a false report as we were told the aircraft had vanished somewhere in the South China Sea.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...ssing-jet.html

[Roisin]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)

Posted by Gardener (here)

AZ---->So, now, well... I am waiting for it....

Solution?

Chip everyone flying anywhere?

Idk

Not everything sinks
500 seat cushions?

Just now seeing this.... who came up with the "AZ"?

What a coincidence but didn't see your post and then Silentfeather's post quoting that quote too with the AZ in it as I must have still been typing out my long post here about Kazakhstan.

Anyhoo.,... who ever came up with the "AZ" ... good work because it sorta matches Kazakhstan.

It was a snippet from a post by Amzer Zo.....(AZ)

Whoops! didn't have my coffee yet when I post about that.... sheesh, I'm such an idiot. lol AZ, of course!

[Leon]

A week or so ago they showed us the max distance this plane could fly on the fuel it had on board...

Now suddenly the Aussie's think it's 2200klm's of the coast of Perth??? about 5000klm's from where it was last seen! did someone re-fuel it in mid air? or what's going on? are they trying to distract us from the real picture as per usual?

[Atlas]

Raja Dalelah claims she saw the 'aeroplane' past Chennai. Interestingly enough, there were reports of debris 200km north of Chennai some days ago:

Hyderabad, Mar 19: Pieces of what is suspected to be an aircraft were seen washed up on Andhra coast Wednesday, a Telugu television channel reported. Fishermen, who saw them floating at Kutta Gouduru beach in T.P. Gudur mandal of Nellore district in south coastal Andhra off Bay of Bengal, informed the police.

Hyderabad, Mar 19: Officials in Andhra Pradesh Wednesday denied TV reports that pieces of what was suspected to be an aircraft were seen near the coast. Officials in Nellore district in south coastal Andhra off the Bay of Bengal found the report by a Telugu news channel to be untrue.

The district authorities deputed some officials along with boats to Kutta Gouduru beach in T.P. Gudur mandal following reports that some fishermen saw objects resembling parts of an airplane.The fishermen had informed police, who in turn alerted district-level authorities. However, after a search in the area, it was dismissed as a rumour.

Hyderabad, Mar 20: A rumour that a portion of a damaged wing of a plane was found at Kotha Koduru beach in Nellore district of coastal Andhra kept the police and revenue officials on their toes for several hours on Wednesday. The TP Gudur police scoured the sea 30 kms off the coast searching for any debris but returned disappointed. Coastguard officials also swung into action, found nothing.

On Google maps:

[Gardener]

Roisin---->Lol, am I making sense here?

Well well! Yes it makes sense to me Oh and the baggage hold opens like the food van sides.......

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
Malaysian woman claims to have seen missing MH370 in the water

She said she had taken flight SV2058 that left Jeddah at 3:30am Saudi time (8.30am Malaysian time) and after the plane flew past the southern Indian city of Chennai, she saw something strange in the ocean. “It looked like an aeroplane,” said the mother of 10.

She said that on March 14, she lodged another police report in Sentul, hoping the Department of Civil Aviation would take her seriously. She said the aircraft had what looked like floats on its side but a large part of it was under water.

I clearly saw the time, it was about 9:30am (2:30pm Malaysian time). My son-in-law, a policeman, was convinced that I had seen an aircraft and asked me to lodge a police report the same day at Sentul police headquarters in Kuala Lumpur. My other children were afraid that I could be detained for filing a false report as we were told the aircraft had vanished somewhere in the South China Sea.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...ssing-jet.html

I tend to believe the Maldives sighting more than this, but who knows. Her sighting would have this thing likely in the Bay of Bengal, in one piece possibly, sinking. It would also having this woman having super-hero vision....but I've flown many times and could make certain objects out rather quite easily at 35,000ft on a very clear day. What she claims to have seen surely would of been but a speck on the landscape/water relating to my experience flying and seeing certain things at 35,000ft. I'm sure she may of seen it appear to be a certain shape though.

The first paragraph of this article is also diverting attention away from this woman's claims and puts the jet right back to where they are looking now, at the ends of the Earth.

Did MH370 crash in the Andaman Sea and then drift thousands of kilometres to the southern Indian Ocean?

Pretty strong and fast currents to carry a 777 that distance in 2 weeks!

I believe the little lady probably seen something that looked like a plane, but I doubt it was flight MH370. (but then again, the Bay of Bengal is quite huge, and no ones really searched there yet).

[syrwong]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
Malaysian woman claims to have seen missing MH370 in the water

She said she had taken flight SV2058 that left Jeddah at 3:30am Saudi time (8.30am Malaysian time) and after the plane flew past the southern Indian city of Chennai, she saw something strange in the ocean. “It looked like an aeroplane,” said the mother of 10.

She said that on March 14, she lodged another police report in Sentul, hoping the Department of Civil Aviation would take her seriously. She said the aircraft had what looked like floats on its side but a large part of it was under water.

I clearly saw the time, it was about 9:30am (2:30pm Malaysian time). My son-in-law, a policeman, was convinced that I had seen an aircraft and asked me to lodge a police report the same day at Sentul police headquarters in Kuala Lumpur. My other children were afraid that I could be detained for filing a false report as we were told the aircraft had vanished somewhere in the South China Sea.

Ironically nowadays we have a better chance of being correct trusting the eyewitness reports from ordinary people than any government reports. Can we link the this one with the Maldives witnesses account and reconstruct the flight path? This path must be more possible than the plane is under deep ocean somewhere near Antartica.

[Gardener]

Yes it was my abreviation of Amzer Zo but don't let that deter your personal data interpretation. Its often the symbols that count, like a 'baby carriage' that is an interesting one. Someones 'baby' an object or idea which is special to someone like saying 'yes it was so and so's baby'.

[Roisin]

Posted by Gardener (here)

Roisin---->Lol, am I making sense here?

Well well! Yes it makes sense to me Oh and the baggage hold opens like the food van sides.......

Let me know if you "receive" any information that it may have flown north, ok?
Also, that roller door I mentioned was an absurdity in that dream meant to be interpreted. Once I lifted it up it transformed that teal plane into a concession stand. Lol.

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A lot of strange stuff goes on in this forum. People typing the same thing at the same time etc.... weird. A lot of coincidences here...

[Ruby L.]

This is the flight path for SV2058, Jeddah to Kuala Lumpur:


http://info.flightmapper.net/de/flig...rlines_SV_2058

Posted by buares (here)
She said the aircraft had what looked like floats on its side but a large part of it was under water.

The 'floats' may be the evacuation slides:


Do all Boeing 777's have the same safety features, despite serving different airlines? Like Air France's evacuation slides (above) are detachable, and also serve as dinghies/boats... Would the slides have signal transmitters on them, then?

[Atlas]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
This is the flight path for SV2058, Jeddah to Kuala Lumpur

Here is another one:


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Here is her police report:

[Nat_Lee]

http://imgur.com/gallery/EYx78Mo

[Roisin]

Posted by Gardener (here)
Yes it was my abreviation of Amzer Zo but don't let that deter your personal data interpretation. Its often the symbols that count, like a 'baby carriage' that is an interesting one. Someones 'baby' an object or idea which is special to someone like saying 'yes it was so and so's baby'.

That's one way of viewing it.
But because each one, the bike, the baby carriage and that teal plane were one behind the other in a single file line, each connected by cable, rope or chain, to me, that's supposed to indicate that they are all connected in some way.

Yesterday, it dawned on me, after viewing the map of those possible flight paths for that airliner, that because the word bike and baby carriage each begin with a "B" that might indicate that the plane flew northerly over Bangladesh and Bhutane... That just came to me out of the blue as if something outside of myself put that thought into my mind.

The message being... that the plane flew north and not south when it was making that turn. The other important factor was that the smaller plane that's sort of the star of the dream was teal in color... is the same color as the flag of Kazakhstan. The color of that plane seemed to shout out at me as something I needed to pay attention to.

[Ruby L.]

Hmmm...
Missing jet WAS carrying highly flammable lithium batteries: CEO of Malaysian Airlines finally admits to dangerous cargo four days after DENYING it

- When asked days ago, he said it was carrying 'tonnes of mangosteens'
- Lithium-ion batteries have caused 140 mid-air incidents in last 20 years
- The devices are commonly used in mobile phones and laptops
- Classed as dangerous by The International Civil Aviation Organisation
- Reignites theory that missing flight may have crashed after on-board fire
- Aviation expert said it re-affirm belief that flames started in cargo hold
- Safety report said battery caught fire and filled the flight deck with smoke

Malaysian Airlines today confirmed that flight MH370 had been carrying highly flammable lithium-ion batteries in its cargo hold, re-igniting speculation that a fire may have caused its disappearance.

The admission by CEO Ahmad Jauhari comes four days after he denied the aircraft was carrying any dangerous items and nearly two weeks after the plane went missing.

He said the authorities were investigating the cargo, but did not regard the batteries as hazardous - despite the law dictating they are classed as such - because they were packaged according to safety regulations.

The revelation has thrown the spotlight back on the theory that the Boeing 777 may have been overcome by a fire, rendering the crew and passengers unconscious after inhaling toxic fumes.

Lithium-ion batteries - which are used in mobile phones and laptops - have been responsible for a number of fires on planes and have even brought aircraft down in recent years.

<snip>

Billie Vincent, the former head of security for the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration, said the revelation re-affirmed his belief that flames started in the cargo hold, destroying the aircraft's communication systems then filling the cabin with toxic fumes.

This, he says, would have overwhelmed the passengers but may have given the pilots a chance to divert the aircraft for an emergency landing.

He told Air Traffic Management: 'The data released thus far most likely points to a problem with hazardous materials.

'This scenario begins with the eruption of hazardous materials within the cargo hold – either improperly packaged or illegally shipped – or both.'

It is thought the missing plane climbed to 45,000ft - a move Mr Vincent believes may have resulted from the pilots not being able to see the controls properly.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2wdLFKhQt

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If so, that brings us back to the burning plane Mike McKay, the NZ oil rig worker, possibly witnessed:


In his email to his employers on March 12 he (Mike McKay) claims he saw flames in the sky which quickly extinguished.
"From when I first saw the burning (plane) until the flames went out (still at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds. There was no lateral movement, so it was either coming toward our location, stationary, or going away from our location," he wrote.

Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/in...#ixzz2wdHIwEJ3

[Operator]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by ERK (here)
Amzer Zo- you have to be a member to listen.

Well, I "listen" to this:

Missing Malaysian Plane

At the start of the first hour, remote viewing teacher Major Ed Dames shared a map which he believes shows the location of the missing Malaysian jet. He suggested that the airliner's pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, committed an act of piracy, planning to take the jet to Somalia. He ended up struggling with the co-pilot, and the plane was inadvertently downed after it went through a rapid uncontrolled decompression, said Dames.

Author Whitley Strieber appeared in the first hour, sharing his theory that the missing plane didn't crash into the sea, but landed somewhere, avoiding radar detection. He posited that the goal may be for the plane to be used for a future terrorist attack, possibly loaded with nuclear materials.

Joining the show for a segment in the first hour, and part of the second hour, a pilot for a major airline, 'Charlie' (pseudonym), also offered commentary and theories about the jet. "I think it's on the ground somewhere. It probably landed somewhere first at a predestined location, where they had fuel waiting," he remarked. If the plane crashed, there would be a debris field and a merchant sea locator transmitter sending out a radio frequency signal, and an emergency locator beacon (an underwater signal), he noted.

From: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/03/17

The show mentioned above is available online (it was posted before by giovonni here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SM6-PhC85TE

I listened to it today. Interesting perceptions on the case ... what I may have missed, or it wasn't mentioned before in this thread,
is that the plane apparently ascended to 45000 feet for a period of time and then descended rapidly to a very low altitude.

Although the 45000 feet was doubted a bit by that 'Charlie' figure he mentioned that it was possible to shut down the compressors
from within the cockpit to depressurize the cabin and not let the oxygen masks down ... that would kill all passengers and cabin
crew in a matter of minutes. Then the plane could continue its flight undisturbed under the radar without intervening passengers or
crew members. If true/feasible this seems to be an important part of what happened. Was it discussed here yet?
(I may have missed parts of this thread)

[Atlas]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
Hmmm...
Missing jet WAS carrying highly flammable lithium batteries: CEO of Malaysian Airlines finally admits to dangerous cargo four days after DENYING it

I agree with your thinking. However:

Posted by Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya

These are not regarded as dangerous goods... and were packed as recommended by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. Such batteries are carried by many other airlines.

The International Air Transport Association estimates that over a billion lithium cells are flown each year. (source)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Out of sight, out of mind.......they may as well be searching for penguins in Antarctica.

Australia says suspected plane debris may have sunk

also; notice they've directed this, in my opinion, "final" search location, to the farthest and most remote place on Earth that this jet could of possibly flown - and away from all civilization?

I just saw a tweet go by showing 2 pictures from 2 different satellites and oceans... with identical debris...

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
Hmmm...
Missing jet WAS carrying highly flammable lithium batteries: CEO of Malaysian Airlines finally admits to dangerous cargo four days after DENYING it

I agree with your thinking. However:

Posted by Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya

These are not regarded as dangerous goods... and were packed as recommended by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. Such batteries are carried by many other airlines.

The International Air Transport Association estimates that over a billion lithium cells are flown each year. (source)

was it the batteries, or the cloaking device they were powering?

[Hervé]

Posted by Ruby L. (here)
[...]


In his email to his employers on March 12 he (Mike McKay) claims he saw flames in the sky which quickly extinguished.
"From when I first saw the burning (plane) until the flames went out (still at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds. There was no lateral movement, so it was either coming toward our location, stationary, or going away from our location," he wrote.

Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/in...#ixzz2wdHIwEJ3

The one above looks/sounds/seems more like a meteor.

Another blunder from Malaysian "authorities":

Signals on Radar Puzzle Officials in Hunt for Malaysian Jet

By MICHAEL FORSYTHE and THOMAS FULLERMARCH 12, 2014




Indonesian Air Force officers at a base in Medan, Indonesia, examined a map of the Strait of Malacca after a search operation. Credit Binsar Bakkara/Associated Press

SEPANG, Malaysia — After four days of reticence and evasive answers, the Malaysian military acknowledged on Wednesday that it had recorded, but initially ignored, radar signals that could have prompted a mission to intercept and track a missing jetliner — data that vastly expands the area where the plane might have traveled.

Radar signals from the location where the missing aircraft, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, was last contacted by ground controllers suggested that the plane may have turned away from its northeastward course toward Beijing, officials said. Military radar then detected an unidentified aircraft at several points, apparently headed west across the Malaysian peninsula and out into the Indian Ocean, the head of the country’s air force told reporters. The last detected location was hundreds of miles to the west of where search and rescue efforts were initially focused.

The military took no immediate action on Saturday to investigate the unidentified blips, whose path appeared to take the aircraft near the heavily populated island of Penang, and only later realized the significance of the radar readings. The search area was then expanded to take in waters west of the peninsula as well as east — encompassing almost 27,000 square nautical miles, an area bigger than South Carolina — but officials did not give a full explanation for the move.


Video|0:58
http://nyti.ms/1nMlBH9
Times Minute | The Search for Flight 370 A look at the search efforts for the Malaysia Airlines plane that vanished early Saturday morning.


Gen. Rodzali Daud, the air force chief, said the military was not certain that the radar had detected the jetliner heading west. He declined to offer another explanation for the coincidence of an unidentified blip suddenly appearing on military radar screens after Flight 370 stopped transmitting its identification signal to civilian ground controllers 40 minutes into its flight.

“Today we are still not sure that it is the same aircraft,” Hishammuddin Hussein, the country’s defense minister, told reporters. “That is why we are searching in two areas.”

Malaysia is sharing the radar data with officials from American agencies, including the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board. Spokesmen for those agencies declined to comment on Wednesday, referring inquiries to the Malaysian authorities.

If experts determine that the radar signals probably did reflect the movements of Flight 370, the search for the plane is likely to be expanded to vast new areas of the Indian Ocean. The final blip came from about 200 miles northwest of Penang at 2:15 a.m. local time on Saturday, General Rodzali said, adding that the data showed the aircraft at an altitude of 29,500 feet. That is near the missing plane’s usual cruising altitude: When its pilots were last heard from around 1:30 a.m., it was cruising at 35,000 feet. The jet, a Boeing 777, was fueled for a six-hour flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, a journey of more than 2,500 miles.

“I have no feeling for what happened to this plane,” said David Learmount, operations and safety editor at Flightglobal, a Britain-based aviation news and data service. “The number of possibilities is so massive that it’s completely pointless.”

The existence of the radar data suggests that the Malaysian authorities may have missed a chance to send military jets to intercept, identify and track the plane as it passed over the country. General Rodzali said interceptors were not scrambled because the unidentified plane appeared to be a civilian aircraft and was not seen as hostile.


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For days, official statements had put the last known contact with Flight 370 almost an hour earlier, at about 1:30 a.m. The aircraft’s transponders, which automatically transmit identifying information and some other data about the plane, including altitude, apparently ceased to function at 1:21 a.m.; after that, radar screens would show the plane only as an unidentified blip. Certain weather conditions, and even flocks of birds, can occasionally cause radar blips that may be mistaken for aircraft.

An American aviation official noted that the statement from Malaysian officials on Wednesday indicated that they were still searching for the plane on both sides of the peninsula. If the plane did turn west as the radar blips suggest, the official said, there would be no reason to keep searching on the eastern side.

Even so, two United States destroyers, the Kidd and the Pinckney, continued to patrol the eastern waters, along with ships from China, Malaysia, Vietnam and other countries. In all, 42 ships and 39 aircraft from at least 12 countries are taking part in the search operations, according to Mr. Hishammuddin, who is also Malaysia’s acting transportation minister.


See legend in original article

“The Gulf of Thailand is pretty much saturated at this point,” said Cmdr. William Marks, the spokesman for the United States Seventh Fleet. “We’re now going over the same areas.”

A Chinese state science agency posted satellite photographs on its website on Wednesday that appeared to show three large objects floating in the South China Sea off Vietnam, not far from the aircraft’s planned flight path; the agency said the images were taken on Sunday. It was not clear whether they had any significance for the search. In recent days, a number of reports have emerged of possible debris from the plane in the Gulf of Thailand or the South China Sea, but on closer inspection, the objects — including an oil slick, a wooden raft and the lid of a large crate — have been found to be unrelated.

An American military official discounted the Chinese images, saying that United States satellites would have seen the object and did not. It was unlikely, the official added, that a large piece of the aircraft would be floating, and in any case, its location was in a high-traffic area near the many ships and aircraft searching for the missing jetliner.

“I cannot possibly believe that image is a valid image,”’ the official said.

The Malaysian government has come under fire for releasing incomplete and sometimes inaccurate or contradictory information about the aircraft and the progress of the search. When news of the military radar traces surfaced on Tuesday in a Malaysian newspaper article quoting General Rodzali, other senior officials denied the report.

Though Malaysia generally has good relations with China, the home country of most of the passengers on the missing plane, the confusion and crossed signals are drawing increasing criticism from there. The Global Times, a nationalist-leaning Chinese newspaper controlled by the Communist Party, published a commentary on Wednesday taking Malaysia to task for failing to release information in a timely and reliable manner. Dozens of Chinese reporters are in Kuala Lumpur, the Malaysian capital, looking for answers, as are many relatives of passengers.

“Malaysia’s grave inconsistencies on this vital information cannot but be a devastating blow to the outside world’s confidence in its core role in search and rescue,” The Global Times said.

Reporting was contributed by Keith Bradsher and Chris Buckley from Hong Kong, Patrick Zuo from Beijing, and Eric Schmitt and Matthew L. Wald from Washington.