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    Default Re: Obama Has Partnered With The Taliban For U.S Geopolitical agenda?

    Point is... This is becoming another major false flag extravaganza botched job. The Cabal is DESPERATE. I am really starting to believe it. The world is too small. Technological advancement is marching forward. There is a reason the US/Anglo/Vatican Cabal had a policy for the last 75 years of "bombing other countries back to the Stone Age" as they so proudly like to boast...

    All that is unraveling. It will be many decades before other countries trust America unfortunately, George Bush, and Murder Inc sold the US public down the river in exchange for all the loot they could steal with the getaway retirement plan to head to South America, and hang with their Nazi cohorts.... Everybody who stood by and participated, allowed it, accepted it, did nothing about it, denied it, etc, etc, etc... was an implicit "facilitator" in a word we are all guilty to some degree...

    Imagine living in a neighborhood where everyone knows someone raped and pillaged someone everyone knew, and everyone just went about their business, because they had such a nice house, car, front gate, guard... that would be the twilight zone. But that is what we are living in isn't it... 1984 (Big Brother) and MK Ultra, electronic warfare, the same technology that was public news during the Iraq War (it's not like it's a secret anymore)

    And by now people should be hip to the fact, that anything the US Govt uses on it's "enemies" it uses on it's own people, according to their own legal interpretation of "enemy" of the State is (which is pretty much everyone outside Washington DC...

    It's a rogue government being exposed after almost 100 years for actually being infiltrated and taken over by an organized Crime Syndicate... and the rest of the World is politely asking who would want to sh** in the same bed they sleep in...

    It is time to wake up and smell the coffee (if you can get past the overwhelming stench of corruption) that is so rife in America... it is becoming a dream world inseparable from "Hollywood"
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    Default Seymour Hersh on Obama, Syria, Turkey, Benghazi, and the drums of war

    Zerohedge has posted a devastating report by Seymour Hersh regarding the Obama administration's efforts to destroy Syria, and Turkey's effort's to provoke Obama into doing that, including with the Sarin gas attacks initially blamed on Syrian President Assad, but actually instigated by Turkey.

    The report is too long to repost here, but the details, including comments and testimony from major insiders from the US government, are devastating. As Zerohedge concludes "Weep for the Republic. It is no more."

    To read the report, go to Obama On The Red Line And On The Rat Line.

    The "Red Line" refers to Obama's statement that he would not allow Assad to use chemical weapons, and that doing so would be crossing a "red line".

    The "Rat Line" refers to the covert transfer of weapons from the conquered Libya, via Benghazi and Turkey, to the "rebels" inside Syria. After the Sept. 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi, Obama started withdrawing from that weapons transfer. This withdrawal was putting Prime Minister Erdoğan of Turkey in a difficult position. Erdoğan needed to gain control of Syria, rather than having the rebels inside Syria lose their rebellion against Assad and turn against Turkey instead.

    So Turkey setup the Syrian rebels to make the Ghouta chemical attack that occurred on 21 August 2013 during the Syrian civil war, intending to have Assad blamed for it.

    A sample of the actual gas used made its way via the Russians to British intelligence, who determined that it was not the Sarin gas that Assad had from Russian supplies, but rather home made sarin gas. The British got cold feet on the Syrian assault, and General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs, head military officer in the US, told Obama "no", two days before the massive assault was to commence bombing all Syria's military capacity into the stone age.

    It's an important report.
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    Default Re: Seymour Hersh on Obama, Syria, Turkey, Benghazi, and the drums of war

    Aha - a couple of tabs further down in my reading - I come across this analysis of Seymour Hersh's The Red Line and the Rat Line (London Review of Books) article by Seth Ferris in Veterans Today: Denial of Turkish Involvement in Sarin Gas Attack is a Very Convenient Admission.

    Seth Ferris asks why Seymour Hersh's article is being published now. Many such a story does not see the light of day in "respectable" journals. Why now?

    Seth Ferris comes to the conclusion that this article is intended to attack Turkey’s Erdoğan:
    Quote This story is being published now because it is being spun on itself. The US is hoping that it will damage Turkey, and in particular Erdogan. It won’t admit this either of course, but if someone has to take the flak for the continuing failures in Syria, will it be the US or its weaker ally?

    Erdogan is making the wrong noises from a US point of view, wanting to recast modern Turkey as a new Ottoman Empire. We can expect him to be pushed out by internal forces over this story, with US assistance, while the US continues publicly proclaiming his innocence.
    Turkey is without doubt a key nation in the Anglo-American versus BRICS nations conflicts, especially in the US versus Russia conflicts.

    Apparently Turkey’s Erdoğan is getting pressure from the US, and Seymour Hersh's article (with its key sources from former administration officials) is being used to apply some of that pressure.
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    Default Re: Steven Seagal Calls For Obama Impeachment - Mass Shootings in the US are Engineered

    OK Here it is...

    Pulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh: Benghazi Is a HUGE Scandal … But Not For the Reason You Think

    Quote Beyond Partisan Politics: What Benghazi Is Really About

    Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh – who broke the stories of the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam and the Iraq prison torture scandals, which rightfully disgraced the Nixon and Bush administrations’ war-fighting tactics – reported last week:

    In January, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report on the assault by a local militia in September 2012 on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others. The report’s criticism of the State Department for not providing adequate security at the consulate, and of the intelligence community for not alerting the US military to the presence of a CIA outpost in the area, received front-page coverage and revived animosities in Washington, with Republicans accusing Obama and Hillary Clinton of a cover-up.

    That’s the part you’ve heard about: failure to protect the personnel at the embassy.

    But then Hersh breaks the deeper story wide open:

    A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations. It pertained to the rat line. By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer. (A spokesperson for Petraeus denied the operation ever took place.)

    The operation had not been disclosed at the time it was set up to the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership, as required by law since the 1970s. The involvement of MI6 enabled the CIA to evade the law by classifying the mission as a liaison operation. The former intelligence official explained that for years there has been a recognised exception in the law that permits the CIA not to report liaison activity to Congress, which would otherwise be owed a finding. (All proposed CIA covert operations must be described in a written document, known as a ‘finding’, submitted to the senior leadership of Congress for approval.) Distribution of the annex was limited to the staff aides who wrote the report and to the eight ranking members of Congress – the Democratic and Republican leaders of the House and Senate, and the Democratic and Republicans leaders on the House and Senate intelligence committees. This hardly constituted a genuine attempt at oversight: the eight leaders are not known to gather together to raise questions or discuss the secret information they receive.

    The annex didn’t tell the whole story of what happened in Benghazi before the attack, nor did it explain why the American consulate was attacked. ‘The consulate’s only mission was to provide cover for the moving of arms,’ the former intelligence official, who has read the annex, said. ‘It had no real political role.’

    Hersh isn’t the first to report on this major scandal.

    We’ve extensively documented that the bigger story behind the murder of ambassador Chris Stevens at the Benghazi embassy in Libya is that the embassy was the center of U.S. efforts to arm jihadis in Syria who are trying to topple the Syrian government.

    We’ve also noted that this is not a partisan issue … both parties greenlighted regime change in Syria years ago, and both parties have tried to cover up what was really going on in Benghazi.

    Last August, CNN touched on the weapons smuggling aspect of Benghazi.

    The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.

    They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. WND alleges that it was not a real consulate. And former CIA officer Philip Giraldi confirms:

    Benghazi has been described as a U.S. consulate, but it was not. It was an information office that had no diplomatic status. There was a small staff of actual State Department information officers plus local translators. The much larger CIA base was located in a separate building a mile away. It was protected by a not completely reliable local militia. Base management would have no say in the movement of the ambassador and would not be party to his plans, nor would it clear its own operations with the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. In Benghazi, the CIA’s operating directive would have been focused on two objectives: monitoring the local al-Qaeda affiliate group, Ansar al-Sharia, and tracking down weapons liberated from Colonel Gaddafi’s arsenal. Staff consisted of CIA paramilitaries who were working in cooperation with the local militia. The ambassador would not be privy to operational details and would only know in general what the agency was up to. When the ambassador’s party was attacked, the paramilitaries at the CIA base came to the rescue before being driven back into their own compound, where two officers were subsequently killed in a mortar attack.

    Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.

    Retired Lt. General William Boykin said in January that Stevens was in Benghazi as part of an effort to arm the Syrian opposition:

    More supposition was that he was now funneling guns to the rebel forces in Syria, using essentially the Turks to facilitate that. Was that occurring, (a), and if so, was it a legal covert action?

    Boykin said Stevens was “given a directive to support the Syrian rebels” and the State Department’s Special Mission Compound in Benghazi “would be the hub of that activity.”

    Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:

    There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.

    In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

    In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

    Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

    ***

    Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.

    The ship’s captain was “a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.

    That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.

    Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

    Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”

    And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.

    Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”

    And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.

    In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.

    Other sources also discuss that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi as mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.

    Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.

    That is what I think really happened at Benghazi.
    Was CIA Chief David Petraeus’ Firing Due to Benghazi?

    CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. But Petraeus was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate. Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation. And see this. Benghazi

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    Default Re: Steven Seagal Calls For Obama Impeachment - Mass Shootings in the US are Engineered

    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Iran -Contra d'Obama : Le vrai scandale Benghazi
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Zerohedge has posted a devastating report by Seymour Hersh regarding the Obama administration's efforts to destroy Syria, and Turkey's effort's to provoke Obama into doing that, including with the Sarin gas attacks initially blamed on Syrian President Assad, but actually instigated by Turkey.

    The report is too long to repost here, but the details, including comments and testimony from major insiders from the US government, are devastating. As Zerohedge concludes "Weep for the Republic. It is no more."

    To read the report, go to Obama On The Red Line And On The Rat Line.

    The "Red Line" refers to Obama's statement that he would not allow Assad to use chemical weapons, and that doing so would be crossing a "red line".

    The "Rat Line" refers to the covert transfer of weapons from the conquered Libya, via Benghazi and Turkey, to the "rebels" inside Syria. After the Sept. 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi, Obama started withdrawing from that weapons transfer. This withdrawal was putting Prime Minister Erdoğan of Turkey in a difficult position. Erdoğan needed to gain control of Syria, rather than having the rebels inside Syria lose their rebellion against Assad and turn against Turkey instead.
    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    OK Here it is...

    Pulitzer-Prize Winning Reporter Sy Hersh: Benghazi Is a HUGE Scandal … But Not For the Reason You Think
    I merged my little noticed thread on Seymour Hersh's report on Obama, Benghazi, Syria and Turkey into this thread, since it was covering the same ground.
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    Default Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

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    As if the Obama administration’s purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history” has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.

    In all, the Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country and give them to the active duty Army.

    In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.

    Last week, U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the measure will save taxpayers $12 billion, over the next three years.

    Of course, when one considers that this ‘cost saving’ move comes from an administration which regularly runs trillion-dollar deficits and, to date, has proposed no less than 442 tax increases since taking office in January 2009, the idea of saving money for the American taxpayer is a bit hard to swallow.

    So, what could be another, more reasonable explanation?

    The Apache, which began service in 1986, is armed with a 30 mm M230E1 Chain Gun (with 1,200 rounds), Hellfire anti-tank missiles, and 70 general-purpose 70 mm rockets. In short, it is capable of fending-off any enemy, foreign or domestic.

    Obviously, these helicopters could pose a substantial obstacle to saying, a tyrant drunk on his own power, with an army at his disposal.

    With the recent, attempted seizure of the Bundy family ranch in Nevada by more than 200 armed federal officers, including many snipers, we know that the Obama administration is not afraid to use force against the American people.

    Furthermore, considering the unprovoked attacks and murders of U.S. citizens on their own property by federal agents, such as the Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres, we also know that the federal government has no problem suspending due process and using lethal force on its own citizens. Couple that with the as yet, unexplained, massive arms buildup by the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act which allows the feds to arrest and detain any U.S. citizen indefinitely without charges, and even the most establishment-minded American should be able to see what is coming.

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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Coincidence? Just other day here in South-London I saw one of them Choppers flying/meandering Westwards along the River-Thames.
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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Quote Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)
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    the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history”
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    He kept his word ...






    It IS most obvious what they are up to !

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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Quote Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)
    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/marti...-states_042014
    ...Couple that with the as yet, unexplained, massive arms buildup by the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act which allows the feds to arrest and detain any U.S. citizen indefinitely without charges, and even the most establishment-minded American should be able to see what is coming.
    No they won't. They will remain in denial until there is nothing left to deny. My husband and I call it "the Nate Syndrome" in honor of our son-in-law.

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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Coincidence? Just other day here in South-London I saw one of them Choppers flying/meandering Westwards along the River-Thames.
    An apache helicopter?

    I see the huge chinook helicopters fly over here in Battersea probably two or three times a week. Never seen an apache.
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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    I thought this was a "state thingy" They owe they state a million, and are standing off w/guns to defend feeding the cattle on "state lands." Harry Reid and state officials are doing this. It's a snub against the government departments to him. If everybody else pays, why shouldn't Bundy? He couldn't set up a payment plan all these years when he ran his cattle and sold them 20 years?

    Sounds a little egotistical and manipulative to have a tax dodger stirring up civil unrest because he won't pay as others in America to keep those lands hydrated clean for the cattle that graze. Sorta like theft from the "other tax payers." I'm wondering if they couldn't have set up a online fund with those who believe in his "stand your ground against taxes stance?"
    Would Bundy do this for a city slicker? I doubt it seriously. But if you must blame the President for the states moves, then so be it.
    Just saying there are states laws who collect the taxes, and Federal Laws, but the lands of the people that haven't been sold off, to save money and keep energy clean are the price to pay in the future. Bundy won't out live carbonmonoxide air for his children and grandchildren. People have to think about the bigger picture and the oil sands pipeline alternatives. Is Bundy a NG or oil person. I seem to remember someone being interviewed saying he was connected to oil. I've watched a lot of the live footage video, and I distinctly recall this. Perhaps there in lies the real reason. KOCH brothers in action folks.

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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Quote Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)
    As if the Obama administration’s purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history” has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.
    I changed the title of this thread from:
    Something big and bad is coming Obama CONFISCATES ALL APACHE ATTACK HELICOPTERS. gives to army
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    Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army


    The new title is less sensationalist, is more accurate, and doesn't SHOUT.

    The essence of this report, as I noted a few days ago in this post, is:
    Quote The US National Guard units (which when push comes to shove report to the state Governors) are losing their Apache helicopters to the US Army (which reports to the US President.)
    The state National Guards will lose 200 AH-64 Apache attack copters, 100 or so OH-58 Kiowa scouts and 100 UH-72 Lakota utility birds. In return, they will gain 100 UH-60 Blackhawk transports.

    Yes, it seems that something really nasty is brewing. But when a hurricane is approaching, sensationalist warnings at each gust of wind do not serve us well.
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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Quote Posted by Lifebringer (here)
    I thought this was a "state thingy" They owe they state a million, and are standing off w/guns to defend feeding the cattle on "state lands." Harry Reid and state officials are doing this. It's a snub against the government departments to him. If everybody else pays, why shouldn't Bundy? He couldn't set up a payment plan all these years when he ran his cattle and sold them 20 years?
    You comment confuses me . This thread is not about the Bundy ranch vs the US Federal (not state) Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

    Rather this thread is about the Federal government taking some attack helicopters from the state National Guards, in exchange for fewer transport helicopters, and the implications of that confiscation (the US Federal government is yet more militarized, and seems to be preparing for yet another war ... this one in the country formerly known as the United States of America.)

    (Also, I was unable to parse your phrase "They owe they state a million".)
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    Lightbulb Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    FYI, There has been a lot more that has been taken away! A few signatures and the people "Guarding" the heavy equipment and small arms depots on the Same base change... Access removed/denied w/o more red tape even though the National Guard Units carried a heavy share of all of the post 9/11 Wars in Blood and Burdon...

    It is because they are also under the command of their states Governor who is Commander and Chief of their State Military Forces. So the Soldiers loyalties are in question by the MarxoNazi Cabal. They have these Brown Shirt Army and do not want an even fight. They have gone through great pains and expense to assure this already!

    This is the tip of the iceberg on what is occurring in the Military from the Pentagon down to the puppet replacements of the Honorable Brass that was setup and fired or worse. The replacements that should worry every one for reasons I will let you speculate about are the nuclear weapons specialists who not only had access to the Codes, Received THE order to launch, and use Human reason before pushing the button... Who's in those bunkers now?

    Over a Month a go I was informed "It Has Begun"... I posted in one thread the plans. Right now expect a Dis/Mis Info campaign like none other. Much of it will to be confused and not knowing weather to act or not by making you doubt your awakening. Most of it will be to preempt damaging info they know will be released shortly. The have had their trolls on sites/blogs for half a year to several years gaining respect among their members.

    It is going to be a time of not being "Reactionary" and be discerning! We will all be tested IMHO...
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    Over a Month a go I was informed "It Has Begun"... I posted in one thread the plans. Right now expect a Dis/Mis Info campaign like none other. Much of it will to be confused and not knowing weather to act or not by making you doubt your awakening. Most of it will be to preempt damaging info they know will be released shortly. The have had their trolls on sites/blogs for half a year to several years gaining respect among their members.
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    The national Guard will be heavily involved w martial law should it ever happen, most likely not the army so i do not see this as alarming at all. NOW, if the ARMY had transferred the heli's to the Nat Gaurd, then my suspicions might arise in that case.
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    Default Re: Obama administration transfers Apache Helicopters from Natl Guard to Army

    Quote Posted by paul (here)
    i changed the title of this thread from:
    something big and bad is coming obama confiscates all apache attack helicopters. Gives to army
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    obama administration transfers apache helicopters from natl guard to army


    the new title is less sensationalist, is more accurate, and doesn't shout.
    whatever paul. Whatever. Clap clap. So ****ing depressed right now. Try and s hare something and you pick holes in it/me like you always have. **** it. **** it all. Family matters this **** does not.

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    Dear thread-readers,

    when I was in the Air Force, the ANG, the BRAC tried to reallocate our base and seize our planes.

    Yet the 130th AW is highly decorated and capable -- why would the gov't pull its teeth?

    Now, if the BRAC failed, how the F is Obama doing this?

    Something really stinks about this move -- I'm telling you, he just destroyed a bunch of jobs and impacted troop loyalty big time.

    The Guard is loyal to the local people.
    The Active Duty does not give a ****.

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    I think recently the MODS on Avalon have proved quite skilled!

    The issue will lie with individual members of long standing IMHO. We will be wise to send up a flare to a MOD if we discern an agent and keep quiet about it as to not stir the pot. I have faith in the MODS here. Many other sites will not fare so well and there is the danger of cross contamination here which has been damaging in the past.

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    Over a Month a go I was informed "It Has Begun"... I posted in one thread the plans. Right now expect a Dis/Mis Info campaign like none other. Much of it will to be confused and not knowing weather to act or not by making you doubt your awakening. Most of it will be to preempt damaging info they know will be released shortly. The have had their trolls on sites/blogs for half a year to several years gaining respect among their members.
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    AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE UNTIL APRIL OF 2012 I DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY BUT IN ALL CAPS... That is what the FEMA/DHS BROWN SHIRTS and FOREIGN TROOPS are here for. This is well know among Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence (where I worked...) IMHO.

    Quote Posted by Koyaanisqatsi (here)
    The national Guard will be heavily involved w martial law should it ever happen, most likely not the army so i do not see this as alarming at all. NOW, if the ARMY had transferred the heli's to the Nat Gaurd, then my suspicions might arise in that case.

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