Must read: sex, Christ, astral, all according to your use of your genitals.

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Loony (here)

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)

Consent generates Karma.

Even unconscious consent.

This is one of the insidious tricks of the dark cabal.

unconscious consent does not account for murderers (War), rapists, pedophiles & various other scum being able to create karma for the people of nations that that are unaware of such atrocities being committed.... in fact even ones who are aware of what is going on but have not participated in it still does not create karma for them. Think of the researchers that have found out about their governments committing said acts, they have not participated in the act and did not consent to it at all even they will not pick up the karma for those atrocities.

When you subscribe to unconscious consent you have given them your conscious agreement to it. That in its self is why it is a trick. These people are creating karma all the time don't agree to lighten their load, let them work it of because it was them that created it.

Example:

If the individual works for a bomb factory even serving coffee, and he is
aware of the ultimate goal. Even if it is not he who draws the pump or even that detonates.

Conscious awareness creates a frequency in the electromagnetic field in itself.

Failure informed consent creates a weaker karma, but still creates.

For example when it is induced to support a lie. Iraq War.

All the energy released in an action (creation, planning and implementation) must be counterbalanced.

This is how karma works. Levels of mental perceptions and choices (thoughts).

Karma and dharma = physical law of action and reaction.

It is my understanding.

Peace.

Naste.

[loungelizard]

Does this practice make you happy, Roman? May I ask why you find this particular practice so important? Does it bring you fulfilment, and more control over your own mind? How has it helped you? Do you do it as part of a discipline of other advanced methods? I'd like to hear more about your personal journey with regard to this material.

The practice of sacred sexuality is common to many ancient teachings, but it's the culmination of intense practice, study and meditation, when a state of stability has been attained . It's not something to be entered into lightly as the sexual energy is a very powerful force - it's like playing with fire, and can be very harmful, both mentally and physically.

Before we engage in any practice, we have to have trust in the person who is presenting the material: they need to reflect qualities that make the practice attractive. There is agitation apparent in your writing, and I'm curious about the reason for this.

[littleOne]

The concept of egregore is that there is a collective group mind made up of the energies of all the thoughts of the people in that area. There are town egregores, country egregores, and planet egregores. Basically thoughts are energy and the collective thoughts produce this "thought form" that surrounds us and influences our thoughts and feelings.

We have all created it, some have put heavier energy in it that weighs us down, other have put lighter energy in it that lifts us up, but it influences us all and it is a form of karma for all the population that lives in it. It is my belief that even if I am trying to put light energy into this egregore, I may have put dark, heavy energy into it in previous lives, or my children have done so because of some trauma growing up that I may have help create, or...so many possibilities, so I can't say I am paying for someone else's evilness. We have been creating this egregore for thousands and thousands of years and we all need to clean it up together. Yes, some are like a coal factory, throwing black heavy energy to it, but we are here for a reason, and we are probably not so innocent either because this is most probably not our first life on this planet.

I do understand that this is my way of viewing things and I may be very wrong but I just wanted to put it out there for consideration.

[sirdipswitch]

Horsepucky!! This guy, that wrote the book, is the very type of control from the Astral that I talk about. The Astral, is even controled by TPTB, and far more than this rock we call Earth. They grab hold of these stupid Guru types, and fill their head full of Horsepucky, then send them back here to wreak havock on the masses who believe in this horsepucky.

I have lived Evil, Mean and Nasty, untill this life, (a very looooong time. cc) and in this life I ain't no saint by any means, and I made the "jump to light speed", with the greatest of ease.

WE, are Immortal Spirit beings Of The Highest Order. And THAT, is why they keep throwing out all this horsepucky. To keep us from returning to that which WE TRUELY are.

Source, does not want us crawling home to Him on our knees, in Humble gratitude, but "Walkin Tall", and standing proud in our POWER as the true Immortal Spirits, that we are. We are Source. Act like it.


Hey Nancy, and Tony!!! Can ya tell that I just might agree with ya??? ccc.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi roman

I haven't read the book yet but know what you are saying/feeling and realising.

Before I experienced adult knowledge, which came late to me, I was very holy in strength, the rising of one energy denies/cuts off the other and so grounds.

Is that along the lines of your post?

I go now to read!

The fist few lines remind me of Santos Bonacci words and knowledge in his 'Lawful awakening, sin and salvation' parts one and two, he talks about the Salts, we raise our Salt but also lose our Salts, we are of the sea. We can replenish our Salts but never our full purity.

[PurpleLama]

Truth and lies and many mixed up symbols that have nothing to do with one another. There is just enough true information to be dangerous, and just enough lies that the danger is assured.

My humble opinion of the proffered document. Sorry Roman, keep looking.

The highest and most valuable energies become available when the man and woman give freely and climax together. Only a sorcerer (one who seeks personal power, not to do the will of Universe) would withhold his/her energy from his/her partner.

This I know to be true, from my own experience. Those who ascribe to outside authorities may disagree, which is fine by me.

[ljwheat]

I for one must agree with NancyV.. We are not the sum of our thinking, entirely forced on us all, in reality came from the controlled teachers of this planet.

“Stop” for just one moment and meditate on what you were, just before you entered this human condition. This one step is all that’s needed to take your own “Green” pill of jumping out of the Matrix elusion we were brainwashed into everyday of our lives since birthing here.

This must read, is only yet another Matrix controller’s attempt to keep the “Red” pill firmly in place, and is only your choice to swallow.

The “red” pill is much easier to swallow, and live with the 99 percent of Matrix abductees that inhabit this planet of slavery and deception. it’s the biggest “click” or club going, get along or be an outcast.

Perfect you came into this condition and perfect you will move on to the next. Amnesia is the only way to avoid eternal boredom.

One life time is equal to one day of “Groundhogs Day in real life,” this is only My honest Opinion. Was a nice read, but no free chips with this sandwich of Gobble De Gook.

[bram]

Posted by Loony (here)

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)

Consent generates Karma.

Even unconscious consent.

This is one of the insidious tricks of the dark cabal.

unconscious consent does not account for murderers (War), rapists, pedophiles & various other scum being able to create karma for the people of nations that that are unaware of such atrocities being committed

Don't we hide behind our ignorance as an excuse? Of course, it's easier to believe the lies our governments tell us about the things that they do - whilst all the time inwardly knowing the truth - and then feeling the relief that we don't have to be responsible because of our ignorance. However, it's what we know that counts, not what we pretend not to know.

And in the uncountable lifetimes we have lived, we have all been murderers, rapists, paedophiles - the suffering we caused is the suffering we now experience. Its just the wheel of karma turning, turning, turning.....

[loungelizard]

Good morning Roman! I've now had time to have a more thorough look at the text you provided but I found very difficult to read and understand. It's not exactly a bundle of laughs is it?! The mixture of metaphor and instruction is just too obscure for me: I appreciate complex issues being presented in a simple and clear manner. But I persisted….a few things jumped out at me and I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about a couple of them:

Why do you feel the information is aimed solely at men?

What do you understand by "When a virgin wants to incarnate her I Am, she should renounce Nirvana and incarnate in the body of a male"?

Can you explain how this works? "Having sexual connection, the seed still passes to the womb without the need of ejaculating the semen."

Is it true that he says if you ejaculate, just ONCE, you reverse your kundalini and fall into qlipoth or "the abyss"?

Why do you think he uses derogatory terms when talking of the ego? He appears to believe we have to "annihilate it".

I've also done some research, and read a couple of other pieces by him, and wonder if you find his opinions about homosexuality to be judgemental. For example, he writes "They are rotten seeds,…those who practise homosexuality and lesbianism, are lost cases, terribly malignant creatures. For these types of people all doors are closed, except the door of repentance…."

Speaking personally, this material is not for me. It is a basic amalgamation of the ancient teachings from the Buddha, from Wicca, from Hinduism, from the Tao… There is nothing new here, but it has been twisted and repackaged in - for me - a disturbing way, with more than a smattering of control through guilt.

Thanks anyway!

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by loungelizard (here)
Good morning Roman! I've now had time to have a more thorough look at the text you provided but I found very difficult to read and understand. It's not exactly a bundle of laughs is it?! The mixture of metaphor and instruction is just too obscure for me: I appreciate complex issues being presented in a simple and clear manner. But I persisted….a few things jumped out at me and I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about a couple of them:

Why do you feel the information is aimed solely at men?

What do you understand by "When a virgin wants to incarnate her I Am, she should renounce Nirvana and incarnate in the body of a male"?

Can you explain how this works? "Having sexual connection, the seed still passes to the womb without the need of ejaculating the semen."

Is it true that he says if you ejaculate, just ONCE, you reverse your kundalini and fall into qlipoth or "the abyss"?

Why do you think he uses derogatory terms when talking of the ego? He appears to believe we have to "annihilate it".

I've also done some research, and read a couple of other pieces by him, and wonder if you find his opinions about homosexuality to be judgemental. For example, he writes "They are rotten seeds,…those who practise homosexuality and lesbianism, are lost cases, terribly malignant creatures. For these types of people all doors are closed, except the door of repentance…."

Speaking personally, this material is not for me. It is a basic amalgamation of the ancient teachings from the Buddha, from Wicca, from Hinduism, from the Tao… There is nothing new here, but it has been twisted and repackaged in - for me - a disturbing way, with more than a smattering of control through guilt.

Thanks anyway!

At last, somebody bothered to read and ask questions, like a breath of fresh air, finish the book all of you, then its time to talk.

Regards

roman

[Tony]

More haste less speed

The answer is always right under our nose, and is not complicated.
Reason clears the mind, whereas speculation and fantasy don't.
Forums are not places of refined understanding.

If one truly wants to realise the truth, one has to make an effort.
We start by losing our pride. There are secret teachings, but teachings
are not handed out to those who chose to bang their fists on the key board,
rather than learn the scales.

There are those who enter 3 or 6 year - or lifetime - retreats in order to
study and practise, and receive such teachings,
but very few are willing to make such an effort.
Still there are simple practices for we house holders that work very well
in this turbulent age.

We must first take care of our body, speech and mind.
Then we can express this in our conduct...compassion.

To start we can use logic:

With some reflection it becomes obvious that nothing is permanent,
that everything passes with time, that all created things are transient.
It is sometimes more pleasant to delude ourselves into thinking that
the same situation will last.

Thus the truth of impermanence is forgotten. What should be done today,
is postponed until tomorrow. Knowing that some actions lead to
unhappiness and thinking that the change in habit can be effected later,
another opportunity for doing what results in a more healthy
state is neglected.

Unwilling to admit that life may end in the next instant, no effort is
made to make this instant as perfect as could be. Aware of the importance
of meditation and following precepts, still we ignore, and the mirror
of mind remains clouded.

The whole point of any practice (however weird) is to recognise the
true nature of our mind. And that is pure awareness.
In pure awareness everything makes sense, seeing that everything
arises our of causes and conditions, and has no power of its own.

Our body is merely a vehicle, our speech is an expression of compassion,
and our mind has the nature of pure clarity, whose insight can teach us
everything.

Frustration born from excessive activity and expectation is understandable
in a speedy must-have-it-now world. The slower we go the more we
understand, and the more insight is gained.

The modern world wants turmoil, and this stops people seeing clearly.



Tony

[ROMANWKT]

Tony, did you read the book, for all your words here, you offer all the chance to meditate and find inner peace, is that it, thats what you are constantly offering people, thats it,thats your spiritual goal????? or is there more my friend, read the book first, thats what this thread is about, not if I feel guilty where I stick my dick, and what you all think that I believe in, read the book first, then we can discuss about what this thread is about.

Regards

roman

[chocolate]

Hi Roman!

I congratulate you for finding parts of truths inside the work of Master Samael. I have read a lot of what he has written, and have heard a lot of the gnostic teachers speak on various subjects. I don't know if you have visited the website Gnostic Radio. If you haven't you might enjoy it a lot, there are free audio and written lectures on many subjects of what people call 'spirituality'.

As I already see here, you will not find many like-minded individuals easily, because those ideas require an internal dialogue, something many avoid, or don't recognize as necessary.
I also know I am not a very popular 'member' with my views, and that is totally okay with me. For as long as I can see other human beings walking on the same road as I am at present, I will stay in the background and pop in on occasion.

When you think about 'sex' as being ( oftentimes ) referred to as the 'devil' you should be a bit easy on yourself. The fact that you realize you -- and all of us probably -- have been miss-educated, miss-lead and miss-used is sometimes enough.

Yes, the kundalini energy can do a lot of good to the human body, if it is mastered to run in its original direction -- upwards. The most important for me is the mutual exchange of energy and the respect / appreciation you have with your partner -- your wife in your case I suppose. I am sure you just think of this a bit on the extreme side of it, but perhaps you have a stable and fulfilling relationship in your life, even if the energy doesn't necessarily run 'upwards'. This is not a life of just black or white we are living, all shades in between also count.

( your chances hasn't passed, I can tell you that form my own experience )

I will not make this into a long post about the way we have ( not ) been brought up, but I also wanted to tell you that you are on the right track, regardless of your age, or life prior to that.
We all are, if we are still able to find different points of view, and don't necessarily decide to 'disagree' with them. A see a lot of opinions, and disagreements too, but this is not what it is all about. If anyone feels one knows everything about everything already, and in the proper way, than I would be surprised to see them living on Earth right now.

There are quite a few books that you may want to read -- if still in the mood for them -- and I can recommend the two I have read ( currently reading ):
Secret Teachings of Moses by Aunel va Daath
The Gnostic Bible: The Pistis Sophia Unveiled, a book by Samael Aun Weor

Stay well!

[DNA]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

The truth that we have all seeked is right here, we the humanity have been lied too and are being manipulated by the system of slavery, if you have made the mistakes as one as myself, then its too late and you will understand why?? I ask you all to read this 100 page book and understand this as what I had meddled with 30 odd years ago, I had failed and did not understand the real implication of what you are about to find out, I had been a womanizer for the past 40 years, and am now paying the price for my ignorance Attachment 25554

I hope you have the chance to save your existence, as my chance has passed.

Warmest regards to you all

roman

I find it quite interesting that we are talking about something very similar over here on Dawn's thread Meditation and any work with Chi Prana may invite possession by Djinn especially page 9 I hyperlinked page 9 because we are just all up in this topic of sexuality and the astral.

I just find it ironic that these two pages are both on page 1 of What's new on Avalon



EDIT-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------Well I just skimmed through Roman's book. No offense to you Roman but the book is some dense high jargon religious dogma trying to sell a new slant. Far too pretentious for my taste.
All of what is stated can be said simply and direct without a religious intermediary.

[loungelizard]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

At last, somebody bothered to read and ask questions, like a breath of fresh air, finish the book all of you, then its time to talk.

Regards

roman

Can we start the discussion now Roman? Why do we have to wait? It doesn't seem that there are many on this thread intending to read the material!
Could you please reply to the questions I raised, and we can go from there.

Thanks.

[Tony]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
Tony, did you read the book, for all your words here, you offer all the chance to meditate and find inner peace, is that it, thats what you are constantly offering people, thats it,thats your spiritual goal????? or is there more my friend, read the book first, thats what this thread is about, not if I feel guilty where I stick my dick, and what you all think that I believe in, read the book first, then we can discuss about what this thread is about.

Regards

roman

Once one finds inner peace and a still mind, then one can realise
one's own true nature. Some call that enlightenment, pure perception.

What do you want Roman?
Whatever it is, will not be found in a book.
Experience is beyond words.

Silent meditation is part of the process to pure perception.
This ones does for oneself.




'Being' locked in the mind

This is our essential being imprisoned in our thoughts, thus creating a totally neurotic world.
Can't possibly happen? It is precisely what is happening. This is the confused state in which we live.

Partial and confused ideas are pumped into us when we were young, and we then spend the rest of
our lives in confused assumptions. How many people do you know who have an original, clear thought?

It is because of this confusion that we get angry and blame others, which turns back on us and we
then blame ourselves.... That is the locked-in syndrome of the mind.

There are two approaches to solving this. One is to let it run its natural course, which means it will
only get worse, like an uncontrolled headless chicken running around bumping into things.
The other approach is to identify the problem and face up to it, which is painful and takes guts,
but means that the process of undoing the lock has started.

It's all about opening the 'lock' of the mind!

Firstly we have to recognise that we are suffering.
Secondly we have to recognise the cause of that suffering.
Thirdly we have to find a method to relieve that suffering.
Fourthly we have to apply the method that relieves the suffering.

If you are reading this, you have already recognise that you are suffering.

Now we have to look at the cause of suffering: 'I am'!
“I have identified with the thoughts in my mind so strongly that I believe them to be me.
They now rule my life, and ruin everyone else's ;-) Remember: we are all involved and it
is painful and takes guts.

However, just knowing this is not enough, because we then have to find a method to release
ourselves. And - most importantly of all - we have to apply that method.

The method is understanding meditation. Understanding is the quick release.
If we don't understand, we are just playing mental games, and creating more confusion.
Meditation is not a life-style activity: we must resolve that the real is within the unreal.

Freedom is the release from the prison of mental torments in the mind.

Study.
Reflect.
Apply.




Tony

[DNA]

Posted by Tony (here)
More haste less speed

The answer is always right under our nose, and is not complicated.
Reason clears the mind, whereas speculation and fantasy don't.
Forums are not places of refined understanding.

If one truly wants to realise the truth, one has to make an effort.
We start by losing our pride. There are secret teachings, but teachings
are not handed out to those who chose to bang their fists on the key board,
rather than learn the scales.

There are those who enter 3 or 6 year - or lifetime - retreats in order to
study and practise, and receive such teachings,
but very few are willing to make such an effort.
Still there are simple practices for we house holders that work very well
in this turbulent age.

We must first take care of our body, speech and mind.
Then we can express this in our conduct...compassion.

To start we can use logic:

With some reflection it becomes obvious that nothing is permanent,
that everything passes with time, that all created things are transient.
It is sometimes more pleasant to delude ourselves into thinking that
the same situation will last.

Thus the truth of impermanence is forgotten. What should be done today,
is postponed until tomorrow. Knowing that some actions lead to
unhappiness and thinking that the change in habit can be effected later,
another opportunity for doing what results in a more healthy
state is neglected.

Unwilling to admit that life may end in the next instant, no effort is
made to make this instant as perfect as could be. Aware of the importance
of meditation and following precepts, still we ignore, and the mirror
of mind remains clouded.

The whole point of any practice (however weird) is to recognise the
true nature of our mind. And that is pure awareness.
In pure awareness everything makes sense, seeing that everything
arises our of causes and conditions, and has no power of its own.

Our body is merely a vehicle, our speech is an expression of compassion,
and our mind has the nature of pure clarity, whose insight can teach us
everything.

Frustration born from excessive activity and expectation is understandable
in a speedy must-have-it-now world. The slower we go the more we
understand, and the more insight is gained.

The modern world wants turmoil, and this stops people seeing clearly.



Tony

Cherish those who seek truth but be weary of those who claim to have found it
Voltaire

Tony always trying to offer enlightenment.
If you read between the lines what Tony is really offering is his status as guru.

[Eram]

Hi Roman,

If I recall the threads that you started in the last two years, there seems to be some sort of pattern, which I find interesting to discuss here, because it seems to lead to some friction with several posters (including me).
It seems to me that every time that you read a (lengthy) book or video that you agree with, you post it here on Avalon with the strong suggestion that everyone should read it and afterwards there will be time to discuss the matter.
All questions that are asked or opinions that are offered by people who didn't read or watched are dismissed at once with a further strong suggestion to first read or watch.
Then, when some people finally have read/watched the information, some discussion takes place, but never really with you participating.
To me, it seems that you are actually pushing your opinion about certain topics here and have no interest what so ever to have an open debate about it's content. You have drawn your conclusions and everyone who doesn't fully agrees has it wrong.

Maybe, on a discussion forum with intelligent, independent thinking people, it would be more fruitful if you offer more room for debate and or other ideas. It would be nice if you would be more open for other points of view and take more time to explain why you see it your way.

Having said that, much of what you offer as information on Avalon appears to me as parts of truth, mixed with contaminated, false ideas, filled with too much doom and gloom and many ideas (like the sex thing) would need deeper investigation before taking it as truth.
Before I would consider such an extreme view as with withholding sex valid, someone would have to explain it to me in ways that I can track and validate it for myself.

[loungelizard]

Posted by DNA (here)
If you read between the lines what Tony is really offering is his status as guru.

You know, I've never understood the mindset of people who leap to attack those who share their ideas. Aren't we all here doing that? I thought we were supposed to discuss content here and not make personal attacks.

Everyone offers something of value in their posts.

In fact, you could say that the very act of posting our thoughts means we all consider what we have to say is of sufficient importance to warrant being read - and so everyone thinks they are a guru/teacher. It's hypocritical to think otherwise.

Can we now get back to the discussion, which could actually be interesting.

[DNA]

Posted by loungelizard (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
If you read between the lines what Tony is really offering is his status as guru.

You know, I've never understood the mindset of people who leap to attack those who share their ideas. Aren't we all here doing that? I thought we were supposed to discuss content here and not make personal attacks.

Everyone offers something of value in their posts.

In fact, you could say that the very act of posting our thoughts means we all consider what we have to say is of sufficient importance to warrant being read - and so everyone thinks they are a guru/teacher. It's hypocritical to think otherwise.

Can we now get back to the discussion, which could actually be interesting.

Read Eram's post above.
If you want discussion I do not think you will find it here.
Good Luck though.
Nothing mean spirited here, sometimes we just have to bump folks once in a while
Tony's been here a long time.
I'm speaking more to new folks in hopes they don't fall for his crap.
It's really an altruistic gesture on my part.