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    Default The Dark side of Cupid ( Eve Lorgen), Alien love bite

    This must be the sixth of seventh time I was listening to this interview and it keeps being interesting.

    About strange relationships and love connections and what sort and by who this can be/is manipulated, psychic vampirism, emotional highs and lows, previous lives, entities, perceived soul mates/connections, loves at first sight, love, normal/abnormal sexual chemistry, paranormal activity,e.t. connections, its disruptive chaotic consequences. How to recognize such a relationship, and much much more in a coherent way.

    Eve Lorgen, Dark side of Cupid/Alien love bite, somewhat flows into eachother.

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    Thanks 778 neighbour of some guy you reminded me that I so need to get my hands on this book!

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    Default Interview of Eve Lorgen by Corvo in English (About the alien agenda)

    Interview of Eve Lorgen by Corvo in English
    Posted on January 27, 2014
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    This is a written interview of me from an Italian colleague and researcher/author named Corvo. This interview is originally in Italian and can be found at: http://corvide.blogspot.ca/2014/01/i...nnaturale.html

    An earlier post in Italian regarding my work and book, “The Love Bite” can also be found at: http://corvide.blogspot.ca/2013/03/alien-love-bite.html

    1) Eve , thank you for accepting this interview . To get started , can you introduce yourself and your work?

    Thank you for doing the interview. Well, as many may already know I started out doing alien abduction research in the late 80’s and continued on with this as I started doing counseling and hypnotherapy with people who have had alien visitations. I used to work in the Biotech field in California (San Diego area) until I decided to change my career into counseling psychology. While getting my Masters degree, I took a special interest in alien abduction research and also came across survivors of MK Ultra, ritual abuse and milabs later on. Initially, I had hopes that the ETs taking people (and regarding my own experiences) were benevolent beings helping us spiritually and so on. But there was always a hunch deep down inside that there was something “off” with that because of the night terrors I had growing up, that I now realize were related to being taken. Also, because of the stories I heard, there was almost always the element of post traumatic stress and memory loss associated with most alien visitations. So to make a long story short, my research started in the late 80s and by the time 2000 rolled around I had written many non-fiction articles on the subject and wrote my first book, “The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships”. This book is on the more taboo elements I had observed within the alien abductee and milab subpopulation and the inspiration for this book was not only my own experience or “alien love bite”, but the work of Dr. Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic– the latter who became my mentor before and after my book was published. Both Turner and Bartholic are now dead unfortunately, and with unusual circumstances, I might add. It was Barbara Bartholic’s continued support, compassion and wisdom about the alien abduction phenomena that helped me understand my own experiences and how deep the “rabbit hole” really goes.

    As I did more research, counseling with abductees and conducting a support group for abduction related traumas, I learned alot more than what was being reported publicly about alien abductions. And that is the milab element, the paranormal anomalies and experiences that abductees have that indicate the aliens are interacting on a much deeper level than simple “medical physical abductions” or even milab operations. It goes deep into the psyche on multidimensional levels of being. In other words, the aliens could interact and affect us in our interpersonal lives, relationship orchestrations, dream visitations and all kinds of testing and training scenarios, emotional testing, psychological and spiritual interactions. And of course what I termed the “distractions, disruptions and spiritual warfare element” of alien and milab investigations. This is actually what compelled me to write about the subject more than anything else. Of course all of this is in my first book along with case histories of abductees who knew their love relationship to be orchestrated, oftentimes from early childhood bondings and meetings with the aliens and their chosen targeted partner.

    2) Your latest book, “The Dark Side of Cupid : Love Affairs, The Supernatural and Energy Vampirism ,”further explores the theme of “Love Bite “. How to distinguish a positive, loving relationship from a vampiric one ?

    Good question. One would think it would be obvious, but we must distinguish between a true energy vampire–love bite versus simple unresolved psychological issues that may manifest as interpersonal dfficulties. And the difference between a clear cut “alien love bite” and what I defined as a “Dark Side of Cupid” type of relationship. In the alien love bite drama, one or both partners is an abductee and they are often quite aware of which ETs/entities are involved in visiting them regularly. They may have specific memories of being taken by these entities from childhood and then brought together with another child( as children) or partner and put in situations under the aliens “experimental design” to observe and make sure that this couple will bond and develop a powerful connection when meeting later in life physically. In the alien love bite, we most often see the “high drama” and unconsummation themes or what is clearly described in the Love Bite book case histories. Oftentimes there is the sense of psychic energy vampirism, and yet both partners seem to be innocent in terms of how this is taking place. Either partner may not be an energy vampire but they both can be buffeted around in a manipulated drama by their alien handlers, who somehow (I believe) can siphon off the energy created through these intense dramas. As my investigations continued after the Love Bite book, I received more and more cases of what you would call the dark side of Cupid love bite, where the person, often a milab or abductee, seems to get set up over and over with a psychopathic type of partner who acts as an energy vampire, and who is observed to be hosted, partially possessed or fully hosted by a reptilian type of 4th dimensional entity. In the Dark Side of Cupid, the type of entity may vary and not even be perceived as an ET per se. In essence, the more unresolved and unhealed issues a person may have, this may enhance the probability of having interpersonal issues where they either act as an emotional vampire or they attract psychopathic types of partners as an interpersonal pattern. So in the DSOC book I go into great detail about emotional versus psychic vampires, hosts and predators and how to recognize ones own blind spots of unhealed wounds. I go into describing how we can communicate and interact with one another to avoid relationship problems that would make a love bite worse.

    Of course a vampiric relationship is where one or both partners use and take energy and attention in a needy narcisscistic way, where love (if present at all) is more conditional and usually you will see some form of psychopathy in a vampiric relationship. In a regular and loving relationship there is mutual respect and awareness for energy exchange and the persons can draw upon their own divine essence, heart nature for energy, instead of having to always take it from another person. It is my belief that there are people and entities–like alien parasites–who lack a connection to the heart-soul divine essence. And when this is the case, they must seek emotional energy and “prana” from others because they either cut themselves off from their own source or they do not have a soul. (Or the soul is oppressed from the connection with mind and spirit in the body) Again, in the DSOC book I go into detail about this and why some people who have much trauma and unhealed wounds will actually cut off from their own core essence, to avoid emotional pain, and when they do this they become super needy for others wanting constant attention and love. Even if it’s negative attention, some people do this because they can not access their own source of divine core energy. With a vampiric relationship you may have a greater liklihood of having an attached entity whois connected to the primary energy vampire.

    3) Can you illustrate a case from the book, that in your opinion is particularly interesting ?

    Well, in the Love Bite book I’d say the case of John and Nadine had a more classic alien love bite orchestrated connection for what seemed to be the aliens purposes of selective breeding if they could and also to “prep” them for telepathic communication abilities for future use”. Janis and Alex is a good case and the Angelina and Steve case. The latter case exemplifies the milab, reptilian and love bite aspects which involve the more nefarious aspects of the entire drama. In the Dark Side of Cupid I categorized the types of cases into 4 main types categories from the milder cases to the severe ones with the hosted, predator-psychic vampire types of partners. In the last category of the severe cases it’s very obvious that it’s a manipulated relationship with something non-human interfering. Most are the third party entity type cases where some entity is sensed interfering in the relationship. I would say the Amy and Thomas is a good case to observe the energy vampirism issue with a definite entity overshadowing a partner. But all are pretty good cases that represent what happens in real life. The category I found quite revealing of evidence of New Age deceptions and corruption is the Mythic Dramas, Spirit Guides and Emotional Vampirism. In these cases some form of channelling was involved where the spirit guide entity(s) were the source of the relationship interference and energy vampirism. In such cases the individuals were not necessarily “alien abductees” with any kind of ET visitation history.

    4) From reading your book, it is clear that the aliens operate a real “micro management” of victim life, how can we imagine it ?

    Oh yes, this was clearly evident early on when I started sharing more in depth the “secret lives” of abductees, contactees and milabs. Not all of them appeared “malevolent” in terms of involvement in someones life. There were many people who were genuinely spiritual, very sensitive and what some call “indigo” type people who seemed to be assisted by true benevolent spiritual guidance and also a negative disruptive element of milabs or negative ETs, or the positive versus negative ET wars. Such a case in the DSOC is the Becky and Cecil case. On the whole however, most of the micromanagement of these persons lives, when they are still being regularly “visited’, have many elements of their lives conditioned from a very early age. Beliefs, relationships, careers, etc. It’s like you can see a type of social engineering in a large portion of the abductee population, that I think now is a mixture of people truly wanting to get to the truth and those who are acting out their hidden conditioning and mind control programming from abductions. It is essential to be as self aware and honest with oneself as possible. Regression therapy is helpful in getting to the root of some traumatic experiences, or those you think are “ok” but upon closer examination may hold a hidden element which caused a deep subconscious belief or decision to be made which heavily affects ones course in life. I think if anyone has such a concern, their honest intentions to uncover their own truth will offset the programming. It’s all about awareness. Once we become aware of what affects us, we have power over whether to act or react to these triggers or choose another option. Responding differently.

    5) Many human relationships end badly, with great suffering, how many of them due to the alien interference ?

    I believe that the extradimensional interference factor is something going on behind the scenes more than we can imagine. And yet maybe this has always been so, and is part of the human condition for us to work through. Based on the Roper Poll of the early 1990s, it was estimated that about 2% of the population have had unusual experiences that fall into the alien abduction and near death experience categories. I think it’s more, personally. It’s about awareness of other dimensional realities and forms of life that we can interact with. I think the interference aspect has been noticed especially in the abduction, milab population but is also becoming more apparent with very highly aware spiritually focused people. Such a case is a recent blog post interview I did on 1/1/013 with an Indian pranic healer named Kailasnath.( See http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/twin-fl...er-kailasnath/)

    What I’m starting to see is very aware, sensitive and spiritually focused individuals realize, often in hindsight–that their relationships have been set up so that they are delayed or prevented from meeting their true love, soul mate or twin flame partner. Or simply the interference seems to be to prevent true love and harmonious love connections that enhance true sovereignty, liberation and truth. I have come across what appear to be positive set ups by aliens/ETs with people as well. Some were clearly serving the alien agenda deceptions and seemed to be rewarded with a love connection as long as they served that agenda. Then there were those who seemed to be set up or they were disrupted, but continued to maintain the powerful love connection despite the interference. In these cases, in order to maintain the sacred love connection, both partners had to be in full communication and enhanced awareness of the “interdimensional” reality, and then actively dealt with their own unique unhealed wounds which would complicate true intimacy and powerful love. In a non-interfered with relationship, these same issues of working out ones own personal obstacles is also important in order to have a more harmonious, compatible relationship. But when you have interference you know it. I mean it’s pretty obvious if it’s going on– the paranormal stuff, the high dramas, and artificially induced synchronicities. Basically you know it if you have it going on, and from then on you will be able to recognize it’s “energy signature”.

    One of the interesting side effects of a love bite kind of relationship is that once you’ve had one, it can open up your sensitivities so that you are actually more aware after the fact. I think this could be due to how our energy system is amplified and opened up after such an experience. Plus the wisdom gained through such an experience.

    6) One of the most difficult things in dealing with the phenomenon is to discriminate between the spiritual, the psychological and the material aspects. What is your take on this?

    Well, many in the UFO research and even alien abduction want to focus solely on material evidence. This is good because it’s nice to have a baseline of what types of physical evidence occur in alien abduction and contact cases, as well as milabs. These things tend to be physical landing marks, recovered craft, bodies, alien implants, flourescence markings, medical issues and evidence such as missing pregnancies or fetuses expelled that appear alien human hybrid. There was a case in Italy of a hybrid reptilian baby/fetus miscarried by an abductee. The medical issues abductees commonly report are gynecological anomalies, physical marks, scars, injection marks or signs of surgeries they do not recall ever having. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, missing time, etc. Then there are other things like knowledge of things they have not recalled ever learning such as advanced physics, alien languages or script, or other things they just “seem to know”, marital arts abilities, and things the aliens taught them in their “secret life” abduction reality.

    Spiritually it’s not as easy to define, but the alien parasite issue that Dr. Corrado Malanga discovered in his research point to mental and spiritual parasites that affect the person “spiritually”. In one of my earlier supersoldier interviews with a man named “Zed”,(See http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/mil...-drac-control/ )

    he described the subtle difference between the military mind control programming effects and triggers, behaviors versus the reptilian and draco influences. In the reptilian and draco influences it was more “seamless”, spiritual and subtle, and almost felt as if it was “part of him naturally” but in fact was not, after he did intense healing, spirit releasement and meditation for a year living in nature alone, basically. But now with Malanga’s liberation techniques and so many others coming out in the alternative healing community, such as Holographic Kinetics, there are shamanic methods and hypnotheapeutic ways of discovering these influences and eliminating them without fear.7

    7) In many of your articles you make reference to the Italian Corrado Malanga . What are the author’s Italian concepts most relevant to your work?

    Malanga’s work is genius, brilliant. I was so happy to come across his work and his honesty in his research. I found so many of the same things and have encountered much disagreement and censorship of the elements of spiritual attachments, parasites, paranormal interference, milab operations, virtual reality operations and of course the most taboo is the love bite itself. Malanga was able to determine how these aliens really operate by doing in depth hypnosis and NLP which could access the deeper soul aspect of the person. The soul aspect he referred to as “anima”. This is the part of a person that can exist in the eternal present, be aware of all that has occurred and access information and memories about the aliens true intentions and nature. The troubling aspect was how the aliens involvement, parasitism actually facilitated a disconnect and lack of internal coherence with the mind, spirit, soul of the person within their body. Once the connection was re-established and the parasites or Active Alien Memories (AAM)s neutralized, then the abductee had much better awareness and connection with their soul/heart and could deflect the abductions through awareness and the power of their integrated consciousness with soul power fully engaged. I found his work with the milabs, alien parasite life cycle and cloning or “copying” to be revelatory. (See http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpre...interferences/ and http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpre...3/the-cloning/)

    So many milabs and abductees seemed to remember experiences or “milab operations” in another body much younger than their normal one, which revealed they were being transferred into cloned or copied bodies. Which is what some abductees like Ted Rice and other milabs have remembered but were never believed. (For example in the Masquerade of Angels book by Dr. Karla Turner and recapitulated in the Love Bite). Or, they were taken out of their human body and inserted into an alien body and then carried out jobs in their alien identity such as the Simon Parkes case in the UK.

    8) One hot topic that you explore is the MILAB phenomenon. According to your research, what is the relationship between Aliens and the Military ?

    Milabs are so fascinating, and seem to be a larger and larger part of the alien agenda in my view. But there also seem to be strictly alien contacts and abductions without military involvement. I think there are military/secret government organization factions which have made pacts with what appear to be certain alien species such as greys, reptilians, dracos, some Nordic types, mantis, etc., so that it seems the milab involvement of an abductee comes after the fact of having been an abductee, or it’s in their family line long before the military got involved in their case. It is postulated that the military have a running list of who most abductees are, and then they monitor them or even sheep dip them into their own secret operations under mind control because of their innate abilities. The more psychic and talented you are, the more the military secret government factions come after you like hound dogs. In the former interview I mentioned with the supersoldier named “Zed”, he realized that the military (US secret govt, although it’s really international) made pacts with reptilians who would train these soldiers for not only their own agenda, but then offer them to the military because of some pact having been made. But the aliens in his case–reptilian/dracos–had the upper hand in terms of the programming and the alien programming superceded the military agenda unbenownst to the military. In Zed’s case he recalled some training scenarios on the dark side of the moon, among other locations and even on the Mars Base working within an organization he called “Earth Defense League” or EDL. In general, what I’ve seen are that alien abductees are used by the military because of abilities such as enhanced psychic abilities, eidetic and photographic memories, bilocation ability, martial arts, telepathic and clairvoyant abilities, etc. These attributes are I believe genetically enhanced or at least conditioned through different kinds of trauma and training in their “secret life”. According to Zed, he believes that there are military factions who are quite concerned about the malevolent and deceitful behaviors and agenda of the aliens and want to counteract some of this “damage” by training supersoldiers with ablities to offset the more nefarious aspects of the alien agenda. It’s not a black and white issue, and yet in order to deal with the aliens, one must be as adept as a yogi, shaman warrior Jedi to deal with how these aliens can interfere and manipulate. Fighting them with guns and physical combat is not as effective as knowing how to deal with them on these mental, spiritual levels. The frontiers of consciousness and integration of consciousness.

    In some of Barbara Bartholic’s work, early on she had noticed that the aliens have a superior way of creating virtual reality scenarios within an abductees experience. For example, they could superimpose a human, or military looking image within an experience to make you think you were dealing with a military person, when in fact it was a reptilian. And I can also say I have interviewed milabs who were in group abductions with others “in a tranced out state” where a cardboard cutout of a reptilian image was being imposed upon them to keep them in line in fear that there was a reptilian being present, when there was not. Or in another milab case, the abductee was lucid enough to see an alien doll figure that was fake within one of her experiences. Both things occur. In the Janice and Alex case in the Love Bite book, the woman described how the aliens could create this virtual reality room almost like a Star Trek Holodeck, to be the internal imagery of the abductees home, but it was actually a white plain, room that was used to be a template for other realities that could be superimposed within the abductees experience. So many of abductees experiences are dreamlike, and I think that the aliens can somehow tap into our memory banks to perceive imagery from our personal lives and use this when doing things while on a ship, underground or in another dimensional reality. One thing that I discovered was that when several abductees shared their dreams, they often found that they had mutually shared dreams with similar if not identical elements, indicating they indeed shared an abduction/virtual reality experience carried out by aliens. The more lucid someone was, the more they could tell what was going on. Derrel Sims had a case of a joint abduction years ago, and found that the most aware abductee could tell how the others were in a trance like state, “acting out what they thought they were seeing or doing”. Amazing really.

    9) We know that the aliens are capable of projecting illusions, virtual reality in the minds of abductees. How do we distinguish between genuine and screen memories?

    This is something that is a hot topic and is discussed alot amongst milabs. In one of my interviews with Maarit the Scandinavian milab woman, she described virtual reality technology and how she would perceive a flash of light before being immersed into VR. She described the difference between VR and a remote viewing perception. With VR you may not have physical evidence, obviously. Another milab supersoldier who has gone public with his VR experiences is Richard Rogers. He describes typical VR training scenarios.(See https://youtube.com/watch?v=d1aVHe39Qac) His book can be found on Amazon at : http://www.amazon.com/Warriors-Light.../dp/1463607857

    I do think there is an advanced technology which enables the hijack of the persons consciousness into a forced “lucid dream” scenario. Some abduction attempts can be sensed before they can hack into our reality, such as a loud humming or earthquake rumbling sensation that precedes or follows coming back from an abduction. Then there are other types of OBE abductions where it is so subtle, it’s like one minute you are in bed, relaxed and ready to go asleep only to instantaneously find oneself in another reality, like an abduction “lucid dream”.

    When I read Carlos Castenda’s, The Art of Dreaming, The Eagles Gift and The Fire Within, I saw descriptions of shamanic dreaming and entering into the “second attention” which was similar to a type of other reality abduction. Or more accurately, a shifting into another reality by changing ones “assemblage point”. In some of these descriptions the Nagual sorcerer could change his apprentice’s assemblage point, after which the “reality/dimension” was changed and they both were in “another reality” instantaneously, body included. In other words, it was not just a mental experience or astral “abduction” but in fact a real shift into other realities. When I consider these practices in sorcery, I am beginning to think that the aliens or even humans in secret projects–are doing something like this, except with the aid of advanced technology. In these cases, it would actually be a true physical abduction but it is not always remembered clearly. The Nagual sorcerer who is adept at changing his own assemblage point repeatedly can recall the entire experience however. It would behoove us to enhance our own awareness and lucidity in order to understand abductions and heightened degrees of perception. Shamanic and lucid dreaming is a good place to start.

    10) What are the purposes of the Aliens ?

    The aliens agenda is much like what Dr. Corrado Malanga hypothesizes. To live through us, souled humans in order to live indefinitely through parasiting our “bodies/containers”. These types of aliens would be the ones Malanga describes as corporeal and incorporeal entities who lack a soul component to their being. They may have a mind component or a mind and spirit or maybe just a spirit component, but need to link into our soul essence energy field in our bodies to live through us as parasites. Understood in this way we could see that these forms of entities who lack a soul component are temporal beings. I also believe the aliens are aiming to manipulate our genetics which would enhance the parasitism vulnerability while maintaining enough human DNA to capture the soul essence, yet keep it imprisoned within a fully alien parasitized consciousness. This is what I believe transhumanism is really all about.

    There may be other races out there who are soulled and living for the purpose of soul-spiritual evolution just like we do. Some good, bad and all the shades inbetween. But in my view, the true character of a being can be assessed if you can read energy and perceive whether they are parasites or energy vampires. In the former interview with Kailasnath the pranic healer, he was able to discern between the divine soulled energy and what he calls “dark depleting energy” of a truly negative being.

    11) Do you see an evolution in the relationship between them and us or it is a stable situation ?
    This is a good question. I see that parasitism is not beneficial for us, and serving them only. Perhaps the alien presence helps us learn about ourselves and can provide the fertilizer for us to evolve spiritually. But to do this we must find ways to defend ourselves against their predation. They are clearly not good for us if they are parasitic predators seeking to consume our soul essence! I do not think it is a stable situation. I see them being able to manipulate others too much to help carry out their agenda. It’s much like what the ancient Gnostics warned us about in the Nag Hammadi Library. They–the archons– infect our minds and cause us to err in our beliefs. Then we carry out activities through these false beliefs. But it’s also true they can parasite and possess our minds and then these people become hosts to carry out their anti human anti life/anti Earth agenda. Transhumanism and a disconnect from our planetary animal mother, Sophia– our source of life and wisdom connection. It seems like a program to keep us looking to outside ET gods rather than staying empathically connected to the Earth and with each other.12) In my book, “Apocalisse Aliena”, I analyze the apocalyptic messages issued by these entities. The phenomenon was also handled by C. Malanga. What can you tell us about those future events?
    I think the future events are partially orchestrated by these EMEs as you call them, so that we believe a narrative which will give it power to actually happen, ie., an apocalypse. So I believe that these entities want us to use our belief and imagination to create a reality they want to happen, which is quite destructive and anti life.

    And then there are other beings who may not be ETs/aliens who are other dimensional beings, who may very well know what future trends lie, and can warn sensitives about these trends that are forecasted. These forecasts are perhaps like what we can expect based on what epoch we are in such as the end of the Kali Yuga. It seems we are at the tail end of an epoch or era, where some beings are ready to move on to another kind of experience, rather than be recycled into the same old system we seem to have been stuck in for a very long time. This is a topic that others are considering, such as the akashic reader “Galactic Historian known as Andrew Bartiz. (See https://youtube.com/watch?v=ioGxyeyuHco)

    I think we as humans need to reclaim our own power and sovereignty back. The conditions on this planet are forcing us to either become our true potential or lose the opportunity. It’s like we are being forced to wake up and be our highest potential or be exterminated as a race through the alien transhumanism agenda.

    *Comments by Corvo regarding Dr. Karla Turners comments on end times prophecies by aliens etc.,“I have a comment about the “End times” story. I’ll cite karla Turner that we deeply respect, in my book I have an extra chapter dedicated to her.From “Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda” by Karla Turner)“And Pat has been shown scenes of the return of Jesus, accompanied by space ships and aliens, preceding the “bad time on earth” which will destroy many of those who are not rescued.”
    “Amy and Polly have been told of a coming “

    “Angie’s abductors said that the “filth and evil” in this world will be cleansed as we are subtly changed.”

    So Karla asked her higher self for an explanation, this is what she got in a series of dreams:

    Esau, the older and hairier brother, they explained, represents the original human species on this planet. Jacob represents the altered product of alien genetic manipulations of that older species. The aliens produced this new variant and then used it to replace the original form. In our current situation, the aliens are once again doing genetic alterations of our species and are once again trying to produce a variant which will be more useful for their purposes and which will supplant us. And again it will be attempted through deception, as Jacob deceived Isaac. This deception, I was told, is being carried out by the aliens through exploitation and manipulation of global events, including weather phenomenon, to make us believe that the planet is in imminent danger of cataclysm and destruction. This is why they impress the idea of coming destruction upon so many abductees, telling then they will have tasks to perform at that time. They want us, as a race, to be so afraid of this upcoming destruction that when they show themselves openly and offer to save us in some way, we will be willing to take their help,even if it means giving up our birthright, so to speak, which is preeminence on this planet. Like Esau in his hunger, we will say, “What good does it do us to keep our birthright if we’re all going to be destroyed along with the planet? What have we got to lose if we accept alien help, even though that means accepting alien control? Better to survive under subjugation than not at all.”

    bold (Corvo)

    I think Karla made a a very good summary of the situation.

    I know lot of people that is so sick of the current situation that will welcome the good ET/Jesus if/when they come to save us….

    I’m not one of those, but many have been involved their whole life in preparation for this Event, with them first and the military later….”

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    Default Reptilian Hosting and Strip Clubs - From Eve Lorgen

    The article below is taken from Eve Lorgen's website off the Articles page.

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    This is an article, based on a recent report I received regarding a reptilian hosting situation. The woman observed this situation to be ongoing with her soon to be “ex-husband” for many years, and in her estimation, was due primarily to a psychic cording, linking and reptilian attachment that originated when her husband repeatedly visited sex strip-clubs.

    The formatting is direct from the woman’s (named “M”) own statements from personal correspondence. She has provided several sketches of what she observed in her “husband” usually during sexual activity, when the entity “took control” of his body temporarily. The sketches show the iguana-like reptilian entity attached to his shoulder, and also a dark greenish-grey energy field surrounding his aura, which is really the overshadowed energy body of a larger reptilian entity (4th dimensional) that entered “from the back” of her husband. “M” also noticed other things that she discovered when doing her own healing work,(EMDR) as well as tracing back the origin of the iguana-reptilian entity, via a type of ET technology, holographic boxes, cords faciltating interdimensional access. One of the key issues of relevance is the technological and interdimensional access of humanity via places like sex strip clubs that are targetted with a type of ET technology linked in via some UFO and connected into the building with interdimensional fiber optic-like connections that allow linking and direct energetic access to the persons in the strip club.

    I would also like to add a link from a previous article regarding a French Clairvoyant’s perception of how certain ET-looking entities attach to the human energy field and shift the energetics of their system by directly linking into certain chakras and energy centers.

    http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/french-...ilian-hosting/



    Excerpt from M:

    I actually saw this electrical iguana shaped dynamic over my soon to be X husband’s right shoulder when we were having sex in 2012. There was also an energetic white cubic form that sat behind this iguana form. I could clearly sense the white cubic form but did not physically see with my human eyes. I did see the rest of this with my physical eyes.

    During this intimacy with my husband, he suddenly became very robotic and mechanical which was actually not that unusual. However, this time as this started to happen, this electric blue outline of an iguana formed and appeared over his right shoulder. I was reclined on the edge of our bed and my husband was standing over me having intercourse with me as this was happening. I then immediately saw a gray, overshadowing reptilian being take over his body from behind him. I could actually see the being and then I could see its outline around my husband’s body as this ‘takeover” took place. It was like this thing had been waiting for the right moment to come in to take my husband over and he just came in and overtook my husband’s consciousness and physical body for the orgasm event. It was very creepy. As this happened my husband became very robotic as he methodically attempted to finish having sex with me. However, I immediately sat up and said, “What is that?” as I pointed directly to the iguana shape. I could tell the entity was surprised that I could see it. It moved backwards and started fading in a stunned and annoyed sort of way. It did seem annoyed and surprised that I was pointing at it and basically calling it out. I also made my husband get off of me immediately. This whole experience from when I first saw the iguana shape over his shoulder to the end took about 45 seconds to a minute to happen.

    This event was one of several events that included events and evidence that helped me discover and shed light on the traumatizing reality and truth that my husband was not only a sex addict that had been acting out sexually for the past 20 years of our 23 year marriage–but I also realized he was reptilian possessed or demonically possessed and was driven by what I would call a demonic-reptilian interface or a “reptilian holographic insert” and other sexually deviant drivers.

    Needless to say, I never had sex with him again after this event. I have also discovered many disturbing details regarding his sexually deviant behaviors and they were consistently quite sadistic in nature. He has been driven by a need to violate others with out their knowing it in ways that he knows they would find very invasive and disturbing if they knew what he was doing. The way he stores memories is also void of sentiment or nostalgia. It is fact based memories and very few details that include emotional memories of meaningful events. A robotic memory is dominant with him.

    Later in meditation, after this iguana event had happened, I was trying to understand what I had seen and so I asked about it in meditation and was able to see the events and the dynamics of how this had happened. I saw several situations where my husband was doing things that had allowed this entity and other entities and some “alien technologies of sorts” to come into his field.

    The main entity and the technology that was connected to or linked to the iguana/reptile that I saw over his shoulder he had actually “contracted” in a strip club. I was shown or just saw the whole scene of how my husband got this entity attachment and the related technology that went with it. He got this entity during a lap dance in a strip club, where he was also paying to be sexually serviced by a stripper/prostitute. As he was in the mist of this particular event, the stripper was over him and on his lap sexually servicing him and he leaned his head back and his sexual field opened up very widely directly over and above his body and even over the event itself. It opened in the form of what looked like a large hourglass cone shape that was swirling a bit as it opened. These very nasty entities and cording devices and other things that were inside of the the stripper”s energy field or that were connected to her field were literally dumped into my husband’s energy field during this opening of his sexual field with her field and the field of the event itself.

    I saw that the stripper had gotten some of these things from her childhood experiences and many more of them were entities and other creepy things that she had picked up or contracted from the many sexually deviant men that she had serviced and the atmosphere she worked in. I also knew some of these were actively being directed by and were connected to something outside of her also. I could clearly see that there was something that worked through her and that was driving her from outside of her field. It was an alien type technology that was actually linked into her and into her field and even into to the strip club itself and what was going on in this place. I could see this larger technology was there for the purpose of cording the men or people (there were a few women too) that she was servicing sexually in these acts of prostitution. It was some sort of unconscious contract she had with an outside force that hovered above this time event.

    I could actually see a rounded disked shaped space craft hovering in a dimension that seemed to be directly above and slightly to the right of the physical space above the strip club and this event field itself. I saw my husband and others physically in the strip club committing these acts. I also saw the technology that was being used to cord these people that were susceptible to these sorts of addictive and/or deviant processes. This ship and its technology hovered above it all and it was there for the specific purpose of cording people.

    The things that have happened in my marriage have been traumatizing and at the same time are quite interesting. As I look at it all now in hind sight with a little distance, it is clear that something much larger then my husband’s and my situation is going on. It makes so much more sense than it ever has before, as the bigger picture is emerging. Something much larger is going on and it is effecting many people.

    I have had two “love bite” relationships that have both been very traumatizing and difficult experiences to go through. I have done much work now to resolve my unresolved trauma. The first relationship was a short, less then two years, a marriage in my early twenties to a psychopath. I am in the process of divorcing my current husband or 23 years now. He is not a psychopath but does have a splintered self and has he been a very convincing fraud and fake, nice guy. Realizing who he really was really choosing to be and what he has really had going on all these years has also been extremely educational, eye opening, and enlightening to witness. I have seen a whole new level of some of the darker things that are going on in our world now.

    Also I just ordered your book-The Dark Side Of Cupid and received it in the mail today and I am looking forward to reading it tonight–very excited to have your work in hand.

    I am an artist and the attached images are very quick sketches that I did to capture this dynamic of what I saw while it was still fresh in my mind. I am planning on creating better images of several of the things that I have witnessed going on during this marriage relationship because there are several other things that I think directly relate to what’s going on and also to the work you are doing, I will send these illustrations of these events to you when complete. Thank You for the work you are doing.

    With The Kindest Regards,

    “M”

    ”M” continues in next correspondence for more detail:
    Hopefully by sharing this information and experience, others will be more able to see and perceive these things also. I have learned that these entities do not like being seen for what they really are. It is a dis-empowering experience for them. Therefore seeing this all for what is, seems to be one of the easiest ways to transform and transcend its ability to influence our lives. One of the things that has surprised me the most about all of this is the dimensionality aspect of it. We have been conditioned to see and perceive the “alien” and “UFO phenomena” in a way that is actually quite misleading and limiting.


    Therapeutic Help and Recovery:I am doing much better and working daily to heal and to be my most whole and authentic self and to move on with my life. That does not mean that there has not been significant amount of unnecessary damage. I do have to say that this “Alien love bite” thing and all of the manipulative, deceptive agendas that go along with this on a very practical level–seems to be rather wasteful. In many ways the experience of having our lives deviated by this force that is cruel, limiting in annoying ways, seems ultimately unnecessary and wasteful. While I do understand the concept that so many spiritual teachers suggest that we signed up for this suffering to make us stronger–I just do not agree. Something about that is off. ( EL–I agree!)
    I don’t see this as a grand spiritual lesson that we signed up for before we came here, that is intended to somehow make us better or stronger through being traumatized or through suffering of some kind. I see this as a nuisance, like mosquitos that swarm on a beautiful tropical island. We may sign up for the vacation and we then educate ourselves about the local parasites and predator that are present in this environment, we keep our eyes open and take action to prevent ourselves from being bitten, harmed or distracted by them. We don’t allow them to deviate us form enjoying a good life or a good vacation.

    One of the most helpful things for me therapy wise has been EMDR. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_mov...d_reprocessing

    It has helped me in healing this current trauma and it has addressed the underlying issues, and limiting reactive patterns that were set up for me through early childhood experiences. I think these experiences set up survival mechanisms in me that made me more vulnerable and susceptible to being targeted by this type of abuse in my relationships. My natural nature is highly empathetic, compassionate and open, and the blind-spots these early traumas created made me an easy target, it seems. Through EMDR I was able to reprocess a lot of the automatic response patterns that I was not aware that I even had. The results have been amazing and confirmable through real-life situations.

    During EMDR I had two very factual based memories come up of myself being ritually abused around the age of three months. This happened while I was in the care of a babysitter who was “prostituting” me out to a clergy type person in Raliegh, NC and my memory suggests that it was actually surprisingly an unsuccessful event for the people doing it. I think this experience is part of the reason that I am able to perceive the things I am able to perceive now. It seems I may have been targeted at a very early age by this alien or demonic force. The abuse only happened twice because my highly intuitive mother, who was 19 years old at the time, quickly sensed that something was horribly wrong and quit her job and took me out of the care of this person. She did not know what had actually happened however, when I asked both my parents about this time in my life. After the memory came up in EMDR, they both confirmed that they had intuited that something was off with this the babysitter and they both noticed that I had become oddly sick and had changed after being in her care for only a couple of months and they both knew they had to take me out of her care. Thank goodness for parental intuition. I do not understand why I was targeted at such a young age or continued to be targeted and I don’t think it’s because I am some special person or anything like that. However, something in me knows that none of this is just random occurrence. There are reasons or circumstances behind why people are targeted.

    I asked M,

    “I also find it interesting that the auric field color around the ex is forest, darkish-green. Was his color this way most of the time or only when the iguana, which looks like it hangs on at the neck area on one side?”

    M: The electric blue outlined iguana was on my husband’s right shoulder and this is what I saw first. It appeared there and then I knew there was this white, cubic box behind it. The iguana form on his right shoulder stayed there on his shoulder but it started fading as this dark, green-gray reptilian entity showed up. It came in also slightly from the right and then it seemed to come into my husbands body from behind him. The dark, gray-green form behind my STBX husband’s body in the illustration is actually the entity overshadowing my husband in what looked like an energetic body. I could see this entity in it’s entirety and the part that merged with my husbands body was less easy to see, yet I could still see it and the part that was larger then my husband is what looks like an auric field over my husbands body. It was a reptilian looking entity and it was actually coming into my husbands body, taking it over and was even very awkwardly animating my husband’s body. I knew my husband was not there anymore as soon as this entity started taking him over. Not sure where my husbands consciousness was, but it seems maybe he was beside himself and was not conscious of this as it was happening. I have ask him if he has any memories of what was happening to him this day and he said he remembers it happening because of my response to it, and the fact that I made him get off me. But he said he has no memory of what was happening to him. To me it was obvious that he was being taken over and evicted by this reptilian entity for what was going to be a brief, three to five minute grand finalle. I also knew somehow that this entity could not be here, in our world or atmosphere much longer then 3 to maybe 17 minutes at the most in one event. I knew that it was continually corded into my husband in his daily life but it remained outside of the human sphere. I knew that this reptile entity was connected to my husband somehow and that it monitored my husband continually and even influenced him and drove his behaviors and choices. However, this entity could not be here in its physical energetic form for too long. Not sure how I knew this, I just did.

    The entity, in its energetic form, was a little bit larger then my husband’s body energetically at least and the green-gray outline around my husbands body that looks like an aura was the part of the reptilian entity that extended beyond my husband’s body as it took him over. I could see the whole entity in its 3d energetic form yet it is difficult to draw it as it was transparent and simultaneously multidimensional.

    I also know that this entity despised me and directed its rage towards me through my husband sometimes.

    This is another interesting thing that happened around this. It was not too long after this event that I figured out what was going on with my husband and I insisted he leave our home. I did agree to allow him to do a year of SA therapy before deciding whether or not to divorce him. However I have not allowed him to move back in our home since the day he was out.

    A day or two after I asked him to leave I had a dream where these entities were very aggressively and brutally anally raping me. In the dream I knew they could not really touch me but they wanted me to believe they could. They were even trying to make me have a physical orgasm and I blocked them and I disregarded them. I gave them no energy of any kind, not even anger. I simple saw them for what they were. It seemed like this was a last ditch effort on their part to get me or to punish me or to show me who’s boss. I knew they despised that I could block them. I could also sense that they knew if my husband was not physically living with me they would have less opportunity to access me through him in the future. I know I do still have to be aware and on guard so they do not find a way to get to me. I also know there is no comparison when it comes to who is more alive, real, luminous and Divinely endowed.

    I asked M:

    “Did you ever do any internal energy body scanning on yourself to see if any cords links or weird looking parasites were present? Oftentimes when I do sessions with people and use hypnotherapeutic methods, and view the energy body, they may see any number of things, from odd shaped implants to serpent, snake, octopus, medusa, alien or insect type of parasites that act like living beings that feed off of energy internally. Most of them seem to hook in the sacral, genital or solar plexus areas. Or they can link in on the back of shoulders, neck and even the heart.”

    M replies:

    I found the watercolor sketches of how the alien technology that I saw over the strip club was set up and seemed to work. It may be more confusing then helpful as I did these during my meditation to help me remember the details of what I was seeing. The actual physical club is represented at the bottom of the drawing. It looks like a constellation because this technology was connected to many similar establishments that carried out, supported, and linked into the same constellation of human behavior patterns. The things above this are each in different areas of dimensions or dimensional levels and they had specific functions. Sidereal time was involved in understanding how this worked. This was all actually very interesting and I am not sure I can adequately explain it all and I wont try to here because this is long enough already.

    The same type of reptilian being that was corded to and overshadowing my STBX husband was the kind of reptilian entity that was sitting inside the ship seen at the top of the drawing and it was very mechanically and robotically running whatever was going on technology-wise inside the ship. I do know that just because I saw this technology this way does not mean this actually exists there, and it could be an energetic dynamic of some kind or holographically devised in some way. I also know that it could actually be there in some way. I do think it may represent how the propensity for human deviation is created and continued in human behaviors, somehow through an outside influence or interference that we have been not been consciously aware of in significant ways yet.

    More details on the constellation of influence to other physical locations:

    M said: The strip club scene inside the cone/ inverted funnel shape was not the 3d physical strip club that my H was in when he was hooked or possessed.

    The physical strip club that my husband was in, when he was hooked/possessed, is at the bottom of the drawing. It looks like a constellation. This constellation image at base of drawing represents the strip club my husband was in and is actually an outline that fits perfectly over an image of the actual strip club he was in. It is just drawn like a constellation – I drew it this way because of something that had happened earlier and because I needed it as a reference and didn’t need to draw a specific club because there were a lot more then just one physical establishment being linked and driven by this technology. The technology was linking into many strip clubs and other addiction-based establishments and even vulnerable individuals wherever they were, too. The main theme that this technology drove was sexual deviance and perversion though. I do have good note on all of this and will get them out and look at them.

    The Funnel shape is not the 3d strip club yet the scene I saw in it does exist somewhere and my intuition was that it was inside of a bank on the top floor of a banking building like a sky scraper. It some how served as a template or a school that was somehow a part of how this technology functioned.

    I actually went into the funnel shape in the meditation and have notes about what was going on in this contained space, ( time and space were different and I noticed this and thought it was odd in a predatory sort of way) There was a lot going on inside the funnel shape and part of what was going on included a gross misuse of nature.

    The funnel shape was there. I could see it as an important part of the technology so I don’t think it was just an analogy or symbolic representation, even though it could easily function that way. It could of had a holographic dynamic to it, especially regarding what was playing out inside of it. It was in the sky and in between the dimensional “splits?” _ not sure how to describe it perfectly -will check notes – I probably documented more details about it. –

    What was going on, in the bottom red carpeted level of the funnel was definitely happening in a large corporation setting like banking somewhere. It was playing out or had played out physically some where and the architecture of where it was playing out mattered. The men and the female “sex workers” (that were more like super(ficially) happy zombie slaves) were people living out some lifestyle of sorts. It was a template of some kind or it set the template for the technology that was linking into and driving human behaviors in our physical world. Training was going on that was paying out, setting up and normalizing exaggerated deviated patriarchal sexuality that is really not human or can be deviated beyond what is natural normal human behavior easily.
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    Seeker Reader, I was just reading a book in St Vincent de Paul about a man who got into Satanism.
    He claimed in this book that a person in his group of worshipers (Charmer was his name) hypnotized a whole bunch of women (former strippers) into working in a brothel.
    The author said every one of the women in the brothel knew this Charmer fellow.

    The other Satanists said that Charmer had a character flaw and was making money off the hypnotism exploiting women.

    Sexual/spiritual slavery. Unimaginable.
    Pretty profoundly messed up ****. IMO.

    edit: apparently some of them thought they were Light Workers etc but were buying into this Ars Goetia sort of thing. but worse.

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    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    Seeker Reader, I was just reading a book in St Vincent de Paul about a man who got into Satanism.
    He claimed in this book that a person in his group of worshipers (Charmer was his name) hypnotized a whole bunch of women (former strippers) into working in a brothel.
    The author said every one of the women in the brothel knew this Charmer fellow.

    The other Satanists said that Charmer had a character flaw and was making money off the hypnotism exploiting women.

    Sexual/spiritual slavery. Unimaginable.
    Pretty profoundly messed up ****. IMO.

    edit: apparently some of them thought they were Light Workers etc but were buying into this Ars Goetia sort of thing. but worse.
    It is really messed up ****


    I was listening to an interview with James Bartley this morning where he was discussing meth/crank users being parasitized off of by reptilians. They started hearing voices in their heads compelling them to do all sorts of deviant things. The reptilians seem to use all the vices as a means to attach themselves to their hosts.



    In an earlier thread I started about Robert Stanley talking to a Psychiatrist, that psychiatrist discussed how some of his schizophrenic patients began their path toward hearing voices via hard cocaine use. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post809812
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    That's scary because of my experience with MJ.

    chasing the dragon indeed

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    A sad story.

    And I particularly focused on this bit:
    "Needless to say, I never had sex with him again after this event. I have also discovered many disturbing details regarding his sexually deviant behaviors and they were consistently quite sadistic in nature. He has been driven by a need to violate others with out their knowing it in ways that he knows they would find very invasive and disturbing if they knew what he was doing. The way he stores memories is also void of sentiment or nostalgia..."

    He needs help in freeing himself from this entity. I wonder if he has asked for it?

    I think the whole subject of Possession-during-sex is a big one, and may be far more common than is generally realized. Pornography, and strip clubs are common routes to creating this possession. The risk needs to be better understood IMO - as do the methods of freeing the victims of this possession

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    About 15 years ago my exwife and I were having sex and I swore I seen her face shapeshift.It took on a demon type appearance.I didn't say anything to her but it freaked me out.About 8 months ago this women and I were in a relationship and I seen her face shapeshift more then once even her teeth took on a pointed look to them.I mentioned it to her and she told me that "I had figured it out ".Her and I broke up and I'm close to a thousand miles away from both women now.These are true stories ....
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    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    About 15 years ago my exwife and I were having sex and I swore I seen her face shapeshift.It took on a demon type appearance.I didn't say anything to her but it freaked me out.About 8 months ago this women and I were in a relationship and I seen her face shapeshift more then once even her teeth took on a pointed look to them.I mentioned it to her and she told me that "I had figured it out ".Her and I broke up and I'm close to a thousand miles away from both women now.These are true stories ....
    super scary, could have been affecting either one of you

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    seeker/reader- thanks for starting this thread. I've lately been praying for help from positive beings (some call them spirits, angels,manitous, or even benevolent ET's) to help us rid the people and the planet of these negative entities. It's part of my daily prayers now.

    It's good to know that they seem to enter people during times when they are practicing addictive behaviors such as sex and drugs. I'm sure they also enter when people are engaged in negative rituals. It's also good to know that some psychiatric conditions in some people could be resulting from possession by these entities.

    Please join me in this prayer daily and envisioning it happening. If enough of us can direct our consciousness this way, I believe it can happen. I believe some of them have already been forced to leave.

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    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    About 15 years ago my exwife and I were having sex and I swore I seen her face shapeshift.It took on a demon type appearance.I didn't say anything to her but it freaked me out.About 8 months ago this women and I were in a relationship and I seen her face shapeshift more then once even her teeth took on a pointed look to them.I mentioned it to her and she told me that "I had figured it out ".Her and I broke up and I'm close to a thousand miles away from both women now.These are true stories ....
    super scary, could have been affecting either one of you
    Your right and I thank God I had my awakening and changed my lifestyle and got away from the "dope show " for your right its real SCARY.

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    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    About 15 years ago my exwife and I were having sex and I swore I seen her face shapeshift.It took on a demon type appearance.I didn't say anything to her but it freaked me out.About 8 months ago this women and I were in a relationship and I seen her face shapeshift more then once even her teeth took on a pointed look to them.I mentioned it to her and she told me that "I had figured it out ".Her and I broke up and I'm close to a thousand miles away from both women now.These are true stories ....
    It does not mean that she is a demon - perhaps she was just one easily possessed, and came to enjoy the feeling.

    Has it ever happened to you?
    I have spoken with people who did become possessed during sex. These conversations happened long ago, and I wondered then how common it was. It was years before I discovered this website, and the subject matter here. So I had no context for understanding that conversation back then.

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    Default Re: Reptilian Hosting and Strip Clubs - From Eve Lorgen

    I find the subject fascinating, I started this thread awhile ago:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...or-virgin-ears

    And have been working hard...knowledge is power, and like letting a 16 year old behind the wheel of thousands of pound really fast moving machines--us humans take for granted the power we have and the responsibility that comes with it. Personally, I believe the information is all out there somewheres--it's just mostly tainted by the time it gets to us. I tried starting a thread to work out some of that here:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ld-practice-it

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    Default Re: Reptilian Hosting and Strip Clubs - From Eve Lorgen

    Do find the work of Eva Lorgen and James Bartley insightful,
    Have they ever highlighted how the application of Mula Bandha as a means of detaching the the serpent from ones Kundalini?

    They focus a lot on the reptilian capturing of sexual energy but have they given any thought or enquiry into the capturing of other sensations for example pain?
    Recent experiences with broken root canal nerves have highlighted the importance of upeksha within pain," the enemy could be warded off or neutralised by a policy of Upeksha"(1) extreme pain brings to mind altered states one of which has recently been the face of shock and retraction on the reptiles face when i calmed looked at it with a smile-the large tube connected to my chest was hastley removed.

    1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upeksha_(Indian_thought)

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    Default Re: Reptilian Hosting and Strip Clubs - From Eve Lorgen

    Great article by Eve Lorgen, seeker/reader.

    It's a good reason to get rid of your chakras. And then put fake cones in their places so that the reps and others don't freak out...
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    Default Eve Lorgen: Hyperdimensional ET intervention in Love, Spiritual warfare, "Satanic" cults



    Published on 4 Sep 2014
    Alfred Lambreont Webre with Eve Lorgen: Hyperdimensional ET intervention in Love relationships, Spiritual warfare, “Satanic” cults

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    Default Re: Eve Lorgen: Hyperdimensional ET intervention in Love, Spiritual warfare, "Satanic" cults

    Thank you for linking this youtube. I found her work about six months ago and it is quite fascinating. I think things work the way she speaks of. Reminds me of a book by Christopher Moore, cant remember, the title, but this fellow sees some entities messing with his situation and wasn't supposed to. Written as fiction, but maybe it wasn't fiction.

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    Default Re: Eve Lorgen: Hyperdimensional ET intervention in Love, Spiritual warfare, "Satanic" cults

    Eve is a wonderful researcher who made a serious study on these subjects and worked with abductees and milabs for more than 20 years. The depth of this research touches the core of what is going on around us in the visible/invisible realms, all tied together when it comes to our world, and the manipulation from certain dimensional/extraterrestrial forces who appear to intervene in humans life in a most unbelievable way. Their hands is deep in the cookie jar of our earth life and of our reality. Waking up to these facts is most important at this time and at this stage. When connecting all the wire ends and seeing what is ,and understanding that this does not end with some single individuals but with the whole of our society, one can say it is rather crucial to learn more

    Here is Eve's new interview with Geoff Bradey on the "Dark Matter" radio which consists of two parts -

    Part 1-
    http://newyorkskywatch.com/podcast/i...20140828DM.mp3

    Part 2-
    http://newyorkskywatch.com/podcast/i...20140904DM.mp3

    Thanks for posting, ktlight ~
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    Default New interview of Eve Lorgen - Mind Control, ET Manipulation and the Paranormal Reality

    IMHO Eve is one of the best researchers out there. I did a search and didn't find this latest interview posted, so here you go. Eve comes on at the 10 minute mark.



    Published on Sep 25, 2014
    On the September 24, 2014 edition of "Nature Of Reality Radio" I welcomed Eve Lorgen who is an author, hypnotherapist, and 20 year researcher in alien abductions, near death experiences, shamanic initiations, military abductions (milabs), mind control, spiritual warfare, psychic attacks, cult involvement and narcissistic abuse. Early on in her career counseling alien abductees, she discovered a plethora of unusual experiences that often accompanied those who reported alien encounters and milabs. The issue of mind control is central, and it is her belief that aliens (and incorporeal entities) are the master mind controllers behind secret government human agencies and black projects. The most prominent aspect of Eve’s consulting and support is with those who are experiencing some form of paranormal orchestrated love relationship issues, or what she calls “the love bite”.
    "The sleeper must awaken," quote by Duke Leto Atreides from the movie, Dune.


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