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    Default Re: Russia & VT point the Finger: Were Israelis 911 Villains?

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    Russia and VT point the Finger: Were Israelis the Villains in 9/11 ?

    "Russia's very angry at the US and Europe for the hypocrisy that they have shown in the Ukraine,"
    says Gordon Duff of Veterans Today. So they have revealed a secret, about the Israelis:
    "They are accused of being guilty of nuclear proliferation" (passing on US weapons)...
    and: "Storing nuclear weapons in Israeli Embassies."
    I merged your thread in with the existing thread discussing this important revela
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    Default Re: Nuke Cancer from 9/11 Revealed.... Veterans Today article.

    I Am NOT HAPPY that my thread got merged in this way !!

    I will delete my post - since the intent of my communication has been destroyed by this merger, and the content was dissimilar - I mentioned 911, but focused on what the Russians are leaking, not the connection with cancer.

    I don't believe that Paul read my post carefully. Perhaps the reference to Gordon Duff and VT, was all that he noticed.

    (If it happens again... /rest of sentence deleted/
    My post was long and thoughtful, and took much time to put together.)

    Anyway, good luck with the thread, Spirit.
    Sorry for the distraction
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    Default Re: Nuke Cancer from 9/11 Revealed.... Veterans Today article.

    Uhoh

    This merger was a bit off putting altho it's typical to merge duplicate threads.

    last week or couple days ago there were a TON of duplicates, the photon threads, and I think Paul had his work cut out for him..

    *hugs fox* lol

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    Default Re: Nuke Cancer from 9/11 Revealed.... Veterans Today article.

    Quote Posted by GuyFox (here)
    I Am NOT HAPPY that my thread got merged in this way !!

    I will delete my post - since the intent of my communication has been destroyed by this merger, and the content was dissimilar - I mentioned 911, but focused on what the Russians are leaking, not the connection with cancer.

    I don't believe that Paul read my post carefully. Perhaps the reference to Gordon Duff and VT, was all that he noticed.

    (If it happens again, I shall consider leaving this place. My post was long and thoughtful, and took much time to put together.)

    Anyway, good luck with the thread, Spirit.
    Sorry for the distraction
    Hmmm ... Uhoh as Tesla_WTC_Solution wrote.

    The two articles
    1. cancer in those near the WTC just after 9/11 and
    2. important new evidence that nukes planted by Israel took down the WTC towers
    are indeed, separate, though related, topics.

    The follow-on discussion from the earlier thread involving (1) was however entirely suitable for a thread such as (2), and indeed the two reports have several interconnections. For example, the cancer report is additional and powerful evidence supporting the planted nukes report.

    I restored your well written and very important post. One way or another we've got to find a proper place for that post on this forum (and make sure you don't leave in a huff.)

    I can reverse the merge, if we decide that's best. First, I am going to try something different.

    I will
    • move your (GuyFox's now restored) post presenting article (2), the nukes, to the beginning of this thread, just ahead of spiritguide's post presenting article (1),
    • add a Mod-edit to explain this, and
    • update the thread title to reflect the combined topic.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    I appreciate Paul's concern and willingness to un-merge the thread, and retitle it.
    My apologies to Spirit for unintentionally hijacking his thread.

    I am open to people's thoughts here on the appropriateness of :

    + The Topic
    + The Title
    + The way I have handled it

    As well as any comments on the content in the early posts.

    Thanks, again to Paul for letting this thread go ahead
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Here's another, secondary but vital, Veterans Today article regarding 9/11. From 9/11 Museum: Shrine of the monstrous lie:

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    Sometime during the 1990s, Philip Zelikow sat down to work out what would happen if a massive human sacrifice were conducted in New York via the immolation of the World Trade Center. He concluded that such a human sacrifice would – like Pearl Harbor – create a new sacred myth for Americans. This myth would convince Americans to accept restrictions on their civil liberties. It would propel a new era of American interventionism and empire-building around the world…especially in the Middle East, where Zelikow’s beloved Israel is the real reason for US intervention, the reason “that dare not speak its name.”
    Zelikow published an article in 1998 entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism.” In it, he speculated about the likely social, psychological and cultural effects of a Pearl Harbor style event such as “the destruction of the World Trade Center.” What he didn’t say was that he and certain colleagues were already in the process of writing the Hollywood-style script for that very event.
    Zelikow knows that the sacred quality of 9/11 is based on the fact that it was a human sacrifice that everyone is required to lie about. He has read René Girard, the foremost scholar of the role of human sacrifice in myth and religion. Zelikow knows that Girard wrote that pagan culture is “founded on a murder and a lie.”
    =========

    Though this article by Kevin Barrett seems initially to be about the 9/11 Museum, it is really about the documented history of the planning for a satanic false religion: The Official Conspiracy Theory of 9/11.

    ===

    All the pieces are falling into place now, including the planning ahead of time, the details of the technology used and their acquisition, and the death by the cancer of radiation poisoning in 10's of thousands of victims in the years following.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    I do remember that Israel closed every single one of it's consulates and embassies at the same time, just a while back. I wonder if this has any connection.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    I love that the Truth refuses to stay hidden under all the lies! As this happens the roaches are trying to hide.... Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide.

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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by GuyFox (here)
    I appreciate Paul's concern and willingness to un-merge the thread, and retitle it.
    My apologies to Spirit for unintentionally hijacking his thread.

    I am open to people's thoughts here on the appropriateness of :

    + The Topic
    + The Title
    + The way I have handled it

    As well as any comments on the content in the early posts.

    Thanks, again to Paul for letting this thread go ahead
    @Fox,
    You did not hijack the thread, it is VT's info that was posted here by me so as to be seen far and wide. Paul does his work to keep this platform in a readable and organized condition. Just don't make it seem that one's opinion is superior than another's. Communicating truth is the subject at hand and discernment is the major tool. No apologies needed. The info is out now, now let us correct the 9/11 misinformation and treason wherever found.

    Peace!
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Zelikow published an article in 1998 entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism.” In it, he speculated about the likely social, psychological and cultural effects of a Pearl Harbor style event such as “the destruction of the World Trade Center.”
    Quoting directly from that 1998 article in Foreign Affairs (the Council on Foreign Relations' flagship magazine), authored by Ashton B. Carter, John Deutch, and Philip Zelikow (bold added by myself):
    Quote A successful attack with weapons of mass destruction could certainly take thousands, or tens of thousands, of lives. If the device that exploded in 1993 under the World Trade Center had been nuclear, or had effectively dispersed a deadly pathogen, the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America's fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, this event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures, scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either further terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently.
    James Corbett provided a detailed report on Zelikow in October 2013: Learn History with Philip Zelikow! (video).

    Other articles on Zelikow's role in 9/11, before and after, can be found at:Zelikow is particularly well tuned to threats against Israel, as evidenced by this comment he made, reported in various places including the Asia Times (bold added by myself):

    =========
    Iraq was invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official
    By Emad Mekay

    WASHINGTON - Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States, but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level White House intelligence group.

    Inter Press Service uncovered the remarks by Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to investigate the terrorist attacks on the US in September 2001 - the 9/11 commission - in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch US ally in the Middle East.
    ...

    Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports directly to the president. He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

    "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat [is] and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of September 11 and the future of the war on al-Qaeda.

    "And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.
    =========

    Zelikow wrote the script for 9/11, before it happened, with the full and explicit intention that it become a major myth shaping American history, "a new Pearl Harbor" in the infamous phrase from his September 2000 article "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century" (pdf)

    Zelikow wrote the 9/11 Commission report afterward, before the Commission began its work fleshing out Zelikow's detailed outline, ignoring or suppressing all evidence to the contrary.

    Zelikow's first allegiance may well be more to Israel than to the US: he supported the US war against Iraq not to protect the US, but to protect Israel.

    ===

    All the pieces, before, during and after 9/11, are coming together.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    All the pieces, before, during and after 9/11, are coming together.
    There is an extensive compendium of the evidence that Israel did it at: 9/11:Israel did it (WikiSpooks.com).
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Don't forget to listen to the Interview that Mike Harris did with Gordon Duff.



    They jump into the story pretty fast, so you only need to listen to the first few minutes.

    A big story, but I reckon the MSM will not tough it, and VT's headlines were not as careful written as they might have been.

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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by GuyFox (here)
    I am open to people's thoughts here on the appropriateness of :
    + The way I have handled it
    When there's an accusatory tone towards another, I have trouble letting it go to listen to the poster's message. I realize that I may lose an opportunity for an insightful message. I'd rather that than be part of disharmony. Though, it's not uncommon for the insight to surface in another way.

    I'm a work in progress in going beyond that communication style to hear what is a distant second...information.

    Thank you, GuyFox, for the opportunity to state the above.

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    For clarification: I'm referring to the post from the early morning hours today.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by GuyFox (here)
    Don't forget to listen to the Interview that Mike Harris did with Gordon Duff.
    The audio is a difficult listen for us with bad hearing .

    But, yes, if you can understand Gordon Duff in this interview, it's an excellent description of the importance of the information leaked by Russian intelligence to Veterans Today, and posted by yourself, GuyFox, in the first post of this thread.

    I managed to transcribe a tidbit of Duff's interview, from about the 2 minute mark:
    Quote This was a direct leak from Russian intelligence, purposefully leaked.
    ...
    This is the final word on 9/11. This is an authoritative end-to-end solution, where the weapons came from, how they work, the science physics behind them, and who did it.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by GuyFox (here)
    Don't forget to listen to the Interview that Mike Harris did with Gordon Duff.
    Listening further to that interview, Duff goes into further detail behind these words from his Veterans Today article:
    Quote Due to over use as a fast breeder reactor by the Israelis, Dimona suffered a “steam explosion” IE a flash over indecent due to neutron criticality back in the late 1980′s under Bush 1. This shut down its operation for many years until repairs could be made.

    It know only operates at very low power levels due to neutron absorption damage to the containment vessel. Now mainly use for isotope production. This forced the Israelis to turn to stolen nuclear stock piles from the US for the continuation of their nuclear program.
    The Bush family took the US nuclear weapons that were supposedly being disassembled to fuel nuclear power plants at a facility in Texas and instead sold them to Israel, who in turn dispersed some to their embassies (the embassies that Carmody reminds us, above, were recently closed), and some to other nations including India, Japan, North and South Korea, Brazil, China, and Taiwan.
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    War games again, I wonder if this has anything to do with Ukraine?

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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Here is the video of CIA agent Roland Carnaby being killed by Houston police. Carnaby was handling the transfer of these nuclear materials to Israel for the Bush family. He is named in the Russian report that Duff posted as Too Classified to Publish: Bush Nuclear Piracy Exposed, and that GuyFox posted at the beginning of this thread as "Carnaberry".
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    To those who don't like Gordon Duff's finger pointing at Israel,

    you should check out reports on that day about "Dancing Israelis"



    : there was a truck found with explosives, and a van with men seen dancing:

    911 - Dancing Israelis


    "our purpose was to document the event"
    WHAT?
    How did they know there was going to be an event, so they could establish "a purpose",
    and be prepared to film it
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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    I was just looking into the stand down order yesterday.

    in June 2001, rules changed so the only person who can give the nod on attacking inbound planes, is the Secretary of State...

    Rumsfeld was busy at the pentagon and didn't know about the attack until the Pentagon was hit.

    Cheney and Rice could have responded, but Cheney wouldn't give the nod to bring them down...


    I'm starting to wonder if #Benghazi was created just to expose those involved in 9/11

    these 2 videos are important to this discussion...


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    Default Re: Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by GuyFox (here)
    Don't forget to listen to the Interview that Mike Harris did with Gordon Duff.
    The audio is a difficult listen for us with bad hearing .

    But, yes, if you can understand Gordon Duff in this interview, it's an excellent description of the importance of the information leaked by Russian intelligence to Veterans Today, and posted by yourself, GuyFox, in the first post of this thread.

    I managed to transcribe a tidbit of Duff's interview, from about the 2 minute mark:
    Quote This was a direct leak from Russian intelligence, purposefully leaked.
    ...
    This is the final word on 9/11. This is an authoritative end-to-end solution, where the weapons came from, how they work, the science physics behind them, and who did it.
    The sound improves, especially after 25 minutes.

    This has got to be taken all the way. If the American people cannot do it on their own, then Putin will just have to go very public with the full story.


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