What the Mayans ACTUALLY predict

[Mixteca]

Hi All. The subject of Mayan predictions and the calendar has come up in a couple of different posts, so I thought I would start a thread devoted to this topic, in honor of my Mayan friends and the elders.

The Mayan Calendar did not end.

NO MAYAN EVER SAID THE WORLD WAS ENDING ON 12/21/12. EVER. It was NOT the end of their calendar. They have 20 calendars. And this particular calendar, like ALL calendars, (including ours every Dec. 31wt), doesn't end, it begins again.

It was also not as simple as the herald of a new era of higher consciousness. The previous 4 cycles of this 5,200 year long calendar were each associated with a single element and either masculine or feminine energy. This new cycle, for the first time, will embody the new element of ether and be equally balanced between masculine and feminine.

And it will not be an easy transition, as major change is rarely, if ever, easy or simple.

Here is what the Mayans are actually concerned about:
1) climate change: they have been trying to get people to pay attention to this since the 1920s.
2) a major Solar Flare: they believe that a major solar flare will take down our entire grid, which will mean the end of all the global systems as we know them.
3) These two things in combination will result in large scale destruction and famine
4) We should all be prepared to have enough food on hand to survive for a period of 7 years, beginning in approximately 2024 (please note that the Mayan concept of time is extraordinarily far sighted, so this can mean a plus/minus factor of a couple of years.

Anyone interested in what the Mayans actually believe should read "The Book of Destiny" by Carlos Barrios. It is the ONLY book that has the full support and authorization of the Mayan Council of Elders. It is available in numerous languages and you can get it on Amazon.

Disregard anything written by Jose Arguilles. His work is based on the writings of a Spanish priest responsible for the death and enslavement of thousands of Mayans and he was fully dedicated to the destruction of Mayan knowledge and writings. Arguilles combined the writings of this psychotic priest with Chinese astrology and claimed it was Mayan. The Council of Elders has asked him to stop calling what he does Mayan and he has refused.

I know this because I am a Mayan Caminante. I was with the Mayan elders in Guatemala for the celebrations on 12/21/12. There are three Mayan elders I can call friends.

[GuyFox]

Interesting.
But how does one prepare themselves or a country for a SEVEN YEAR famine?

That's a great deal of Food to store.

[Mixteca]

I'm pretty sure we can forget about countries looking that far forward for an entire population. I've been trying to find the right recipes for Tibetan honey cakes - last for 7 years and one gives a person enough food for one day. Been having a hard time tracking that down. But, I am slowly starting to store basics like salt, grains, etc. It's an enormous undertaking. Just finding seeds that can replicate and aren't Monsanto gmos is difficult.

However, when you look at what is happening to the food supply, between climate change and Monsanto, it seems increasingly clear that this is going to be necessary.

[Matt P]

Posted by GuyFox (here)
Interesting.
But how does one prepare themselves or a country for a SEVEN YEAR famine?

That's a great deal of Food to store.

This will probably not be a realistic undertaking for most people and probably a worthless endeavor anyway. Those few that store 5-7 years of food would be targets for the majority who don't.
Unless you live in a desert or a far north climate, learn to recognize the food that is all around you, growing abundantly. A few years ago an acquaintance/friend spent a year only eating what he found growing on his way to and from work and around the city (suburban Lexington) and he gained weight. That inspired me to begin learning about edible plants and weeds instead of trying to hoard food. If you hoard food then you are locked into a location and must protect it. If you have knowledge to find food wherever you must go, you have greater flexibility and freedom and will not be a target for others.

Matt

[Tyy1907]

Edible plants-thats an area I would like to get into. I look in my frickin front yard and there are dandelions, not only edible but highly nutritious! Granted they would be riddled with roundup, etc.

[Kryztian]

Also, the Mayans never said the end date (or new beginning date) of their long count calendar was 12/21/12. Over 20 different individuals (or in some cases teams) tried to align the Mayan Long Count calendar with the Gregorian Calendar. Three of them came up with that date. The other 17 all came up with different dates - perhaps a few days away, or a few centuries away.

[Lifebringer]

I've always understood it like an astrological calendar that when planets align a certain way over centuries, earth changes or planetary swing by's come and the elements of earth react, no matter who's on the planet. If I made a planet, I would also have a cleansing mechanism that kicks in when toxic environmental threats occur to the oceans or skies. Volcanic eruptions to burn and put carbon in the air to cause a warming or ice age to cleanse. I just don't know which one we are headed for, because I can't read Mayan, but the symbols and other evidence of cave paintings or carvings, I also take into consideration, as the Mayans weren't the only people and all that saw, put it down. Comparisons have led me to believe that like a self cleansing oven, when a certain amount of years go by, one thing or another occurs and the preparation for it, is the map laid down by the elders who saw it, yet knew not how we would communicate in language today, and translation was almost wiped out. These cave paintings, and other archaeological relics/maps are done by the remnant that survived for the next generations that would surely face it.

[Cardillac]

my Central/South American friends were taught the so-called Mayan calender was based on previous Olmec/Toltec info but has been presented in the present-day as some sort of a bogus Mayan invention...

Larry

[truth4me]

You know IF I live to 2024 then I'm 64.I respect the Mayan teachings but I'm through worrying about possible future events .The one day at a time thing works for me.....

[Mixteca]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
Also, the Mayans never said the end date (or new beginning date) of their long count calendar was 12/21/12. Over 20 different individuals (or in some cases teams) tried to align the Mayan Long Count calendar with the Gregorian Calendar. Three of them came up with that date. The other 17 all came up with different dates - perhaps a few days away, or a few centuries away.

The entire Mayan Council of Elders was in agreement about the end and beginning of the Long Count Calendar and that date fell on 12/21/12. Outside individuals or teams may have been confused, they astronomy of the Mayans was and is fantastically advanced, but there was no confusion among the elders.

[Mixteca]

Posted by Cardillac (here)
my Central/South American friends were taught the so-called Mayan calender was based on previous Olmec/Toltec info but has been presented in the present-day as some sort of a bogus Mayan invention...

Larry

Different people are going to believe different things. This is what the Mayans believe - their calendar has no changed, it goes back further than the Gregorian or Julian calendars. No one has to believe the same thing as they do, they don't ask people to. They are simply tired of what they believe being mis-represented.

[Wind]

2024 is about when the mini ice age truly starts to hit the fan and it will actually probably last for many decades, so I think that the mayans were onto something. Seven years only actually sounds promising. Of course the "people in the know" already know this and the've been preparing. The ancient texts say that after the cataclysmic weather/earth changes the Earth's population has been greatly harvested and we certainly won't have any overpopulation. During or probably after the weather changes a new enlightened age will begin and man will once again understand his connection with the cosmos. It has happened many times in the past, it is part of the evolutionary cycle.

All that sounds sad and also comforting, but once one knows that death is not the end, there is nothing to be afraid. It is only the beginning.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=g7cylfQtkDg

[Strat]

Posted by Mixteca (here)
Anyone interested in what the Mayans actually believe should read "The Book of Destiny" by Carlos Barrios. It is the ONLY book that has the full support and authorization of the Mayan Council of Elders. It is available in numerous languages and you can get it on Amazon.

Are there any books detailing daily Mayan life (what they ate, how they dressed, how they worked, etc) and their relations with their neighbors?

And something I would love your opinion on: Is there a relation between Mayans and Japanese?

Also, I don't mean this to be trivial but what is the general modern Mayan consensus of Mel Gibson's movie (who's name escapes me)? Good or bad?

[Mixteca]

Hi Strat,

There are still Mayan communities in the highlands of Guatemala living a traditional life. I'm not sure about books on the subject, but I will ask one of my elder friends if they know of any. And I'll ask about the Mayans and Japanese as well.

It's interesting you ask about "Apocalypto." I remember watching an interview with Mel Gibson about that movie before it come out. Although I haven't discussed it specifically with any of my Mayan friends I can pretty much guarantee they would hate it. The movie was based on the premise that is antithetical to everything the Mayans believe. It is based on the premise that the reason the Mayans disappeared (which they didn't) was because they became completely out of balance with nature and over-used the natural resources around their bigger cities (Palenque, Tikal, etc.) and so those cities collapsed. What's incredible to me about this film is that no one bothered to talk to any actual Mayans. It was base on an academic's book about why civilizations collapse. And once again, this academic didn't bother to actually talk to any of the Mayans about their history.

The records of the elders are very clear that the elders of that time saw the coming invasion of the conquistadors. They understood that if they stayed they would be completely annihilated, so the majority of the Mayans retreated away from the largest cities. Some chose to stay. Most that chose to stay were enslaved or killed. But as a group they survived because of this strategic retreat. There is an interesting (and short) chapter in the Barrios book about Maximon which covers some of the thought on why it was important to stay hidden.

I hope that answers at least one of your questions. I'll try to get an answer for the others.

[Mixteca]

Posted by Strat (here)

Are there any books detailing daily Mayan life (what they ate, how they dressed, how they worked, etc) and their relations with their neighbors?

And something I would love your opinion on: Is there a relation between Mayans and Japanese?

Hello Again Strat,

I received the following from Shuni Giron, a Mayan Priest who is also (I believe) an elder. I know her husband is an elder. In any case, this is what she said:

"Hello Julie ,I don't know of any books, but a great series is called 500 Nations I really love it, that shows all the tribes in north America in connection with the Central America . I sure there some connections but I feel the connection was more with the people in French Polynesian.

There is some code of ethics that Maya have and I fee the Jappanese also have what do think?"

My opinion (worth very little here I will say right out) is that I don't see a particular connection between what little I know about Japanese historic culture and the Maya. I do see many similarities however in appearance between Asian people and native Americans who live in Southern Mexico and Central America in particular. I grew up in a Mixtec village in Oaxaca and when I see pictures of the elders there and pictures of older Chinese people, I see virtually the same faces. There are theories that the American native populations migrated from Asia during the last Ice Age, which would explain the physical similarities, although I seem to remember Carlos Barrios telling me that there was a different explanation for that. I could be remembering that conversation wrong however. I will ask the next time I speak with him.

Julie