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    Question Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    will share this timely discussion here ...

    Why Are Americans So Apathetic? And what can be done about it?


    "The BFP Roundtable takes on the public apathy surrounding the illegal wars of aggression, the extrajudicial drone assassinations, the illegal warrantless wiretapping, and other outrages of our era. Why is the public so passive in the face of such abuses? And what can be done about it? Find out more in this must-see BFP Roundtable discussion."

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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    Well perhaps the start of a political shift rolling, as in the recent European elections...

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...610-story.html

    In a shocking political defeat guaranteed to upend Republican Party politics, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia lost his primary election Tuesday to a tea party newcomer who hammered the No. 2 leader on immigration reform. It was the first downfall of a congressional leader in a generation.......

    "This is the political version of the San Francisco earthquake," said Stuart Rothenberg, who publishes the Rothenberg Political Report, a nonpartisan analysis of elections. "It came out of nowhere."
    Oh my ears and whiskers, how late it's getting!

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    Aha ...

    i believe these two forum members post articulate and sum up the current situation within the United States ... And quite so perhaps for all of humans living within the current dying paradigm ... whether awoke or asleep ...

    Lifted from another current forum Thread ...

    First from Curt

    Quote Posted by Curt (here)
    Most Americans know something is wrong but don't have the knowledge, the resources or the time to figure out that we've been hijacked by a faceless cabal of global oligarchs who literally want most of us dead...

    In fairness, this is a hard reality to face when you've grown up on a steady diet of Mickey Mouse... and stories about the glory days of Washington, Lincoln, and FDR.

    The truth is we face an assault on all sides. Our dollar is being devalued. Our minds are being harassed and controlled; our bodies are being poisoned, fattened and sterilized.

    Our media is the most wretched outside of state TV in China. Our education system is abhorrent. 90% of us don't know the difference between socialism and democracy, much less democracy and a republic.

    We're being fluoridated and dosed with heavy metals and toxins and fed genetically altered frankenfood.

    We pay $2000 to go to the dentist for a root canal (after insurance).

    It costs 75K to get an undergraduate degree. A huge proportion of Americans have to borrow money each month just to pay the interest on credit debt (which was itself accrued to pay for living expenses)...and our real wages haven't gone up since the 70's.

    We have vast unemployment, and underemployment, just like Europe, except with virtually no safety net. Those who have good paying jobs are taxed at asinine levels, which is odd because we don't really receive anything in return for this money as our infrastructure is caving in all around us.

    And we don't get vacations, or reasonable amounts of sick time, or reasonable family leave when we have children. And any health concern greater than tonsillitis will very often result in personal bankruptcy.

    Our government is abysmally corrupt... like third world banana republic corrupt. We have the biggest inequity in wealth of any country in the world.

    We've been targeted. We've been taken out. We're mob-hit victims bleeding in the street.

    We don't have much time to consider how it got this way because we're trying to stay alive.

    So cut us, and yourself, some slack.


    And finally from Kevin (the gripreaper)

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    I want to answer the question in the OP, within the overall context of the United States and it’s people.

    Our forefathers braved the oceans and came to this continent to escape tyranny and oppression, the divisiveness and control which has existed on this planet for eons, not specific to the United States. Remember, this country is only a little over 200 years old, and from the very beginning, the founding fathers were a mixed bag of elitists with ties to the crown, died in the wool freemasons, hell bent on making this country an agent of the Vatican and the banksters, while the rest of the delegates did want freedom and liberty.

    This battle raged on for the first century, when the banksters finally gained their foothold, through wars and debt. Once the 1913 Federal Reserve Act was passed, the banksters had control. The United States has been under a military state of emergency since the mid 1800’s, all citizens were made wards of the state, chattel for the bankruptcy, and the globalist banksters have controlled all aspects of industry, education, government, media, and religion ever since.

    To say that US citizens are rampantly consumerist misses the point, considering that the debt based fiat monetary system is designed to cannibalize resources through imperialistic expansion and slavery. After the great depression of the 1930’s, where money per capita in circulation was reduced to about 3 dollars per person, it became almost impossible to survive and function until Roosevelt gave us the New Deal under social security, and other entitlements. We were sold a bill of goods in exchange for our labor “in perpetuity” to the banksters.

    The main reason the United States was ALLOWED to prosper so extensively in the last 70 years since then, is because the elite needed an educated work force to back engineer the stellar technology and to implement their covert black op’s agendas within a rapid timeline, based on a perceived threat and the need to bring the planet up to speed with other off world technology.

    Consider taking about 100 million people with a gross GDP of about 3.5 trillion a year at the turn of the last century, to 300 million people and a GDP of 17 trillion a year today. This happened because it was engineered to happen, a collateral side effect being consumerism. Although it appears that US citizens are spoiled and have wealth, none of us own anything or hold allodial fee simple title to any tangible assets, and none of the fiat currency we hold in savings has any intrinsic value.

    We have been duped, lied to, covertly and overtly manipulated, and used to create the most massive underground economy and technology known to this planet, providing the globalists with the largest mercenary military force for their colonialistic imperialism to rape and pillage the entire planet. The corporatocracy is NOT United States specific, but it is global is scope, and couching the debate as nationalistic misses the point and focuses on the citizens of the United States rather than the true culprits of the demise.

    The demise of modern western societies is NOT United States specific, and neither is the imminent transformation taking place. It is engineered globally, is a global phenomenon, and affects all of us globally, and is slated to come to a town near you, if it hasn’t already.

    The expansion of the United States was engineered, and so is the collapse of the United States an engineered phenomenon. Nothing happens by accident and the populace has nothing to say about it and how their futures are to be guided until we lose the nationalistic blame game and stand as one human species all around the world and realize the problem is global, and not national. The elite have NO nationalistic tendencies or proclivities, and we should not either.

    Most people in the United States are good people, just like the people in Iraq and Syria, or Israel or Russia. They are just like you and me, and are awakening to the globalist agenda more and more each day. If you want to know what you can do about it, go outside and talk to your next door neighbor about the globalist agenda. Keep studying and learning and sharing, and doing what you can to NO LONGER support the globalist corporatocracy. ALL OF US are in the same boat. We each need to do our part to starve the beast and awaken our neighbors.

    Creating divisiveness and pointing the finger at US citizens is part of the divisive agenda, the same agenda the elite use. The United States does not deserve the trouble flowing their way any more than any other nation. Let us rise above and take the higher ground, and work on what unites us all and not focus on any one segment of humanity and how they are different, or what they deserve or don't deserve.

    The very word "deserve" implies an agenda, meting out rewards or punishment based on behavior, or a set of relativistic values and morals, decided by whom? Who deserves to be at the top of the power pyramid, and who deserves to be at the bottom? We need to move away from the pyramidal power structures of the last several millennium, with the elite at the top an all of us at the bottom, and the corporations and banks in the middle.

    I think all of us are sick of war and debt, aren't we?

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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    Media saturation, confusion creation, too many 'crying of wolves'...the alertness/terrorism barrage (which no-one can maintain- no one can remain sensitive under constant fire)..all topped off with multiple forms of castration: DNA castration, alertness castration, ability castration, focus castration, data castration, chemical castration.

    America will explode soon enough. All in the wrong directions, I'm afraid. In the directions of not going after the source of the problem, just the upper layer for the most part. The real reasons for it are at least 3 layers down... and the top layer..which is merely a concocted effect in itself... will be in direct physical conflict with the general public, and neither will know what they are really doing.

    They will attack each other, maim each other .. and the beast beneath those layers will remain.

    Only within the motion of that conflict itself, will the grease and motion required to go after the beast beneath....actually exist.

    This is the way it always plays out, over the centuries, across many countries and regions. The true cause of these woes is never truly addressed and never truly excised from human existence.
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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    This is how I see the average American, and I would not call them apathetic.
    They are swimming, near drowning, without life vests, in a shark infested sea,
    barely keeping their noses above water,
    and darting between these hapless swimmers are luxury yachts, (representing the corporations),
    and on board of which are the corporative board members.
    And they spend their entire time scheming as groups,
    how to further make the life of the drowning swimmers miserable...
    also occasionally fishing someone out of the waters,
    to give them a job as a cleaner on board their yacht.

    Somehow they remind me of the Roman emperors and their aristocracy of Ancient Rome,
    amusing themselves at the Coliseum.

    P.S. I forgot to mention one more thing, that the yachts also try to ram each other. And that some captains get thrown overboard. So it's not all roses.
    Oh, and the ocean is orange....

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    "The BFP Roundtable takes on the public apathy surrounding the illegal wars of aggression, the extrajudicial drone assassinations, the illegal warrantless wiretapping, and other outrages of our era. Why is the public so passive in the face of such abuses?"

    Kinda gives the impression that no other nation has an apathetic populace. That any other country who's leaders have been abusive, have had their people put a stop to it right away.

    Or maybe the implication is that only Americans are expected to not be apathetic? Every one else can be, but not us?

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    Quote Posted by seeker1972 (here)
    "The BFP Roundtable takes on the public apathy surrounding the illegal wars of aggression, the extrajudicial drone assassinations, the illegal warrantless wiretapping, and other outrages of our era. Why is the public so passive in the face of such abuses?"

    Kinda gives the impression that no other nation has an apathetic populace. That any other country who's leaders have been abusive, have had their people put a stop to it right away.

    Or maybe the implication is that only Americans are expected to not be apathetic? Every one else can be, but not us?

    BINGO !

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    Does that bingo mean you are agreeing that the topic of apathy towards abuses of power should be global in its scope, and not just focused on the US? Not sure what you meant there.

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    Quote Posted by seeker1972 (here)
    Does that bingo mean you are agreeing that the topic of apathy towards abuses of power should be global in its scope, and not just focused on the US? Not sure what you meant there.
    Bingo ~ defined is used to express satisfaction or surprise at a sudden positive event or outcome ...

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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    Apathy is an inevitable result of satisfaction.

    Take a close look at Grip's post Gio copied in post #3 of this thread.

    A magnificent post depicting what has really been going on condensed into a few powerful yet concise ideas.


    When the standard of living has been artificially raised beyond that of most of the world for such a length of time that it becomes "reality" for those who live it ... well there are consequences.


    I need not elaborate as it is so very obvious on so many levels.


    What can we do about it???


    Ah ... there is the rub ...


    I would venture to guess that most you have good ideas but hold that thought ... the ballgame is on ... honey ... can you please bring me another beer??? Oh ... Dancing with the Stars is on??? Okay ... I'll get it myself ... next commercial.


    I expect the sharp plunge into what is and has really been going on will soon become painfully obvious to most in amerika ...


    Won't be pretty ...


    imho

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    Thanks Cal ...

    And since your last up here ... Could you grab US another beer ...

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    OK, I am going out on a limb here. BUT Two days in a row there have been threads that are pointing offensive fingers at ALL AMERICANS. Not all of us are riding on the same boat. The people that need to hear the information here, never will, because sleeping people don't visit alternative sites like this. Keep in mind, there are sleeping (stupid) people EVERYWHERE. Not just the US. I was born, raised, and am still forced to live here, because of domestic laws. To leave the country I would have to give up my parental rights. That said, I am still an American. And I feel I am speaking for others here that are Americans.
    I truly am disgusted by the lack of class, and feelings by the members of Avalon this week. Seriously folks, there is such a thing called TACT. Find it, and use it. This video, should have been pasted on the other ANTI-AMERICAN thread.
    In my opinion, Avalon just lowered itself to a level that I am not proud of, because as part of the Avalon family, if you disrespect one of us, you disrespect all of us.

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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    Quote Posted by Sidney (here)
    OK, I am going out on a limb here. BUT Two days in a row there have been threads that are pointing offensive fingers at ALL AMERICANS. Not all of us are riding on the same boat. The people that need to hear the information here, never will, because sleeping people don't visit alternative sites like this. Keep in mind, there are sleeping (stupid) people EVERYWHERE. Not just the US. I was born, raised, and am still forced to live here, because of domestic laws. To leave the country I would have to give up my parental rights. That said, I am still an American. And I feel I am speaking for others here that are Americans.
    I truly am disgusted by the lack of class, and feelings by the members of Avalon this week. Seriously folks, there is such a thing called TACT. Find it, and use it. This video, should have been pasted on the other ANTI-AMERICAN thread.
    In my opinion, Avalon just lowered itself to a level that I am not proud of, because as part of the Avalon family, if you disrespect one of us, you disrespect all of us.
    Bingo !

    Your a winner also Sidney ...

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    lots of this going around ... ... perhaps the last 3 x flares ...

    'When you blame others ... You give up your power to Change.'



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    at 1:08:00 Sibel speaks about Snowden being one of the best psyops of our time....

    I personally couldn't agree more... Snowden and Wiki-leaks both got so much air time on the news I KNEW by that ALONE they were fake... you would never see something like that on the MSM unless it was intended to be.
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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    Why single out Americans as apathetic?

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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Why single out Americans as apathetic?
    That's the big question ~ HappyUK

    No one really has on this thread ...
    Though they have on this recent Avalon thread one > https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...wing-their-way

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    Same here, TargeT. If Snowden was real, he wouldn't have gotten so much play on MSM. Too many people are hanging hopes on a rescuer on a white horse riding in to save the day, and latch onto people like Snowden. TPTB know this and create them for just that. One has to constantly discern to separate the wheat from the chafe. I have had to admit some I followed were phony, cast them aside and move on. It's better to be disillusioned than delusional. Get informed, not dis-informed.

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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    I think perhaps we might look closer at the definition of Apathy. Personally, I think it means lack of emotions/feelings on topics that others might get/show high emotion over.
    Well, Flouride, is a BIG reason. (not just used in the US)
    Chronic Illness (worldwide epidemic of, via poison in food air and water and lack of sunlight due to chemtrailig)
    Being politically powerless, not just an American problem
    Poverty- Worldwide problem
    PTSD- due to repeated trauma due to repeated loss of financial security through loos of jobs, raping of the stock market etc. and all the soldiers that come home traumatized from battle, and forced drug useage

    There are MANY reasons people become apathetic. But it is not an American problem. The WORLD is sick. Financially,emotionally,politically,morally, and physically.
    How can there not be so much Apathy ??

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    Question Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    Yes Sidney

    It is a world wide virus perpetrated upon us ... Between the chemtrails, water, food and pharmaceutical poisonings ... Is there really any wonder ... For now only the desperate seem to be acting out currently... Just this week alone these included the likes of a young boy stressed out killed another in school, then supposedly shot himself in Troutsdale, Oregon ... While in Las Vegas two crazed extremest assassinated two policemen (while they ate their lunch) ... then killing another person who attempted to stop them before turning their guns on themselves ...

    And if we could really looked closely at the real carnage (toll) going on around the world daily ... We all would probably go crazy as well ... One can only take in and absorb so much stress in a life ... It is even being demonstrated here on this forum with members hashing out frustration and blame towards fellow members.

    Note that word apathy (a lack of concern) is probably the only thing that's really keeping many humans from going over the edge tentatively ... And unfortunately i have no doubts ... It will only get worse before it gets any better ... We are all truly within mist of a psychopathic driven cycle ... It will eventually play out ... But i truly believe only by each of us holding our individual space in love and keeping our heads ... will allow any of us get through it .. Sadly though in a sense some apathy will be required to survive.
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    Default Re: Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

    I'm surprised no one has commented on the physical reasons for the apathy. The Germans put fluoride in drinking water in concentration camps to keep the prisoners apathetic. It worked then and it works now.

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