Why Are Americans So Apathetic... And what can be done about it ?

[Wind]

Shouldn't the question be why humans are so apathetic? I see society around me as apathetic and somewhat depressing. People have lost connection with the spirit, their immortal divine self.

Humans have become too interested in the external world and vanity, somewhere in the process we forgot the inner world, but now we have started to remember it again. Now "new" science is starting to prove that this whole universe is conscious and alive, nothing is random and we are not just accidents. We have a purpose we and we are here on Earth fullfilling our divine roles. We have been sleeping far too long in this dream, now is time to wake up. Mother is giving us is the wake up call, let us honor it. Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

"And in that day men will be weary of life, and they will cease to think the universe worthy of reverent wonder and worship.

They will no longer love this world around us, this incomparable work of God, this glorious structure which he has built, this sum of good made up of many diverse forms, this instrument whereby the will of God operates in that which he has made, ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare; this combination and accumulation of all the manifold things that call forth the veneration, praise, and love of the beholder.

Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life; no one will raise his eyes to heaven; the pious will be deemed insane, the impious wise; the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good.

As for the soul, and the belief that it is immortal by nature, or may hope to attain to immortality, as I have taught you, – all this they will mock, and even persuade themselves that it is false. No word of reverence or piety, no utterance worthy of heaven, will be heard or believed.

But when all this has befallen, Asclepius, then God the Creator of all things will look on that which has come to pass, and will stop the disorder by the counterforce of his will, which is the good. He will call back to the right path those who have gone astray; he will cleanse the world of evil, washing it away with floods, burning it out with the fiercest fire, and expelling it with war and pestilence.

And thus he will bring back his world to its former aspect, so that the Cosmos will once more be deemed worthy of worship and wondering reverence, and God, the maker and maintainer of the Mighty Fabric, will be adored by the men of that day with continuous songs of praise and blessing.

Such is the new birth of the Cosmos; it is a making again of all things good, a holy and awe-inspiring restoration of all nature; and it is wrought inside the process of Time by the eternal Will of the Creator. - The Lament of Hermes

[giovonni]

It's All Just A Human Condition

Everybody Hurts

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=S2N_uvnvGbI

[RunningDeer]

Posted by giovonni (here)
On the other hand, i like to believe those of us sharing on this global forum...
Are contributing in mitigating this apathetic conditioning ...

From October 2010

Dave Meslin "Redefining Apathy"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LuHNVYW4tW0

Well done.
Thanks, Gio.

[Pam]

I have read both threads regarding the apathy of Americans. First of all I am an American, and no, I am not at all offended by the thought. Why are most Americans apathetic? Because they don't know or understand the level of deception and the advanced state of the corrosion that our current social system is in and they don't want to. It is too overwhelming for most to dive into the ""truth" as we think we know here on Avalon. And what does knowing the truth do for one individual. In my case there was initially overwhelming angst, depression and alienation as I was perceived to be ridiculous. After a long period of time I gained an acceptance of this new reality. With acceptance I have diminished the anger and rage of our current existence.

I am not saying all apathy is a good thing, In the case of overlooking our government and its actions it is merely a survival mechanism. I understand the benefits of keeping your head in the sand.

If you compare my life with my neighbor the difference between us is incredible. She buzzes around all day happily transporting her children from one activity to the next, attends her church functions and buys new toys endlessly. She is content with her life as far as I can see. She probably makes sure her kids get flouride treatments twice a year at the dentist. She doesn't have a clue that her children might be living in a hellish state at any near time in the future, or, if she does she doesn't acknowledge that.Maybe she has a bit of unease in the background of her mind but she leaves it there.Then there is me. I wake up on any given day and will not be the least bit surprised if we have a total economic collapse, or if martial law will be imposed or if...... I don't trust anything I read, I don't have meaningful relationships with people that I used to feel comfortable with and the list goes on and on. At the end of the day I really don't know if what I think the "truth" is in reality any more the truth than hers. To date in the US, it looks like her reality is winning out. The stock market is soaring, unemployment is supposedly down. People are back to buying stuff...I see more McMansions being built all over the place. If we both died tomorrow in a lot of ways she wins. I can never go back to the way she lives. I made a choice to seek truth but there is a price to pay for that. So are Americans apathetic? Yes, but it may not be such a bad thing.

[scarletfire]

“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.”
-Henry Kissinger

..... Do Americans have the luxury to be apathetic because we don't see our lives dependent on the alternative? I know many people who choose ignorance because the alternative is depressing and uncomfortable. Is the apathy of the American populace simply an illustration of Maslow's hierarchy of needs?

[giovonni]

thanks for the insightful comments ...

After apathy comes fear ... and Fear always makes one do Something ...

[giovonni]

to sustain the human condition ...
we need to desire to maintain a connection through consciousness with love ...

Will of the Waves

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t_QooRVABJk

[ulli]

Posted by giovonni (here)
thanks for the insightful comments ...

After apathy comes fear ... and Fear always makes one do Something ...

I have come to the conclusion- maybe because I lived in England for so long-
that whatever statement one makes about a nation the opposite is also true.

So if we notice pathological apathy, then it's clear to me that pathological ideology also exists in equal abundance in the US
One just has to look at the Bible Belt.
Anyway, reconciling those will be quite a job.

An old buddy of mine, music writer Nick Kent, who is considered by some as legendary now, wrote a book with this title:



Found his book. Pretty brilliant title, I thought, given that he was so close to Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones.


1974 was the craziest year of my life, in part because of this guy and his then girlfriend Chrissie Hyndes. The year the punk in me was born, and it was the year that hippiedom had died, due to an overdose of apathy.
Something worth pondering....

[giovonni]

As each waking day passes, i have become more humbled by the awakening process ... i have come to appreciate it as more a singular one. Sadly some of those that i've encountered along the way, who i thought were (even) more enlightened than myself... Have fallen back from my path. This is neither good nor bad, it just is. We all evolve at differing paces... Though it be wonderful to wake up one morning and find everything in its rightful place and order ... Whatever that would entail ... Especially for a non collective (hive) consciousness such as currently exist here on this plane... i have come to sense realistically, it is less likely to occur in that way ... Instead i have chosen as my mindful aim and vocation to focus on creating a personal daily life, that is attentive to the gift and responsibilities of my individual awaking process ... By simply doing this ... Apathy is less likely to prevail in my current life's experience.

[ulli]

Posted by giovonni (here)
As each waking day passes, i have become more humbled by the awakening process ... i have come to appreciate it as more a singular one. Sadly some of those that i've encountered along the way, who i thought were (even) more enlightened than myself... Have fallen back from my path. This is neither good nor bad, it just is. We all evolve at differing paces... Though it be wonderful to wake up one morning and find everything in its rightful place and order ... Whatever that would entail ... Especially for a non collective (hive) consciousness such as currently exist here on this plane... i have come to sense realistically, it is less likely to occur in that way ... Instead i have chosen as my mindful aim and vocation to focus on creating a personal daily life, that is attentive to the gift and responsibilities of my individual awaking process ... By simply doing this ... Apathy is less likely to prevail in my current life's experience.

Way to go, Gio.
Each individual who maintains inner balance causes an infinite ripple effect.

Their lives might then even touch the lives of those who are still without soul.

[TargeT]

Posted by giovonni (here)
Though it be wonderful to wake up one morning and find everything in its rightful place and order ... Whatever that would entail ... Especially for a non collective (hive) consciousness such as currently exist here on this plane... i have come to sense realistically, it is less likely to occur in that way.

it will happen like falling asleep; slowly, then all at once.

This seems to be the way of things; the 100th monkey is a good example of this phenomenon.

or from a different perspective you could say:

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

[giovonni]

another way to perceive it ...

we all have already won ... everyone just dosen't realize it yet ...

regardless i have though ...

[Bill Ryan]

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The briefest answer...

Why Are Americans So Apathetic?

• Mass fluoridation (and probably also vaccines).
• The deliberately planned microwave effects of smart meters (see the work of Barrie Trower).
• Internet consumerism (the illusion that one is well-informed, but any actual action taken is zero apart from talking to one's friends who already know what you know).
• Mass cultural behavioral modification conditioning via covert electronic mind control programs effects.

Re the last, which is far more pervasive than anyone might ever want to believe, here's an extract from this well-known interview with Al Bielek and Preston Nichols:

http://www.whale.to/b/orion.html

Would you refresh my memory about some of the dates involved with the development of electronic mind control in the US?

The mind control experiments were moved to Montauk about 1969. The hardware phase of some of the later experiments began about 1975; equipment to modify the SAGE transmitter was ordered about 1973.

ITT was the main contractor and sub-contracted portions of the contract out. Most of the contracts were awarded to firms on Long Island.

So what did they actually prove that they could do when the experiments were over?

What they essentially proved they could do was that they could control a person that they had the "signature" for. This pattern that was unique to an individual could be put into the computer program for the transmitter. A second order wavelength would be transmitted that has a lower attenuation and affects that persons mind directly. There could be a command to do anything focused at the person. Once a device was constructed that illustrated this principle on a wide scale. A mental message was put out that if anybody heard the message they were to call a certain phone number. Over 600 calls came from all over the East coast all the way down to Florida. It works.

There is not only an individual signature. There's a racial signature and also a universal signal for the human race. The government has used all three to target specific individuals. They have also done group messages targeted on a specific racial or ethnic group. That's common. In Boston and New York they were doing experiments on "mood control" on the cities. Transmitters used no longer exist, but the technology does.

Do targeted individuals perceive what they are receiving as their own thought?

Yes.

Is there any defense against that?

Yes and no. Theoretically no. This is what the government depends on. Practically speaking, they can't get everyone, because some people are naturally resistant, depending on their level of mental and psychic development. Perhaps 5% of the population do not respond to these signals. If they get 95% coverage, they don't care about that 5%. That's what they have the riot squads and the concentration camps for. There is no defense unless you can interfere with that signal. Some people just don't react.

So they transmit a thought signal?

Not exactly. If you were put on an EEG, you would exhibit a certain pattern of electrical responses. These can be recorded and they are unique to you. It can be recorded and stored and replicated on a computer. If they can replicate your RNA/DNA pattern they've got you too - for life.

You mentioned about concentration camps?

Yes. They are all over the United States. There are three in Arizona alone.

So they can control us to the point where we'll just hand over our guns?

That's what they hope. It depends on how effective this equipment becomes, how thoroughly installed it is everywhere, and whether or not people can ferret this stuff out and render it inoperative before that time arrives.

How about the idea of a conflict between moral conscience and what the mental command tells you do to?

You don't have the option not to act as it says the way that equipment is set up - if you are not aware enough to make a connection that it is not your thought. It does not negate choice, it just puts in a strong impluse or command. Those people who responded by calling that number had no idea what went through their heads. Some of this does require preconditioning to a response pattern.

Could they be doing this over the media, like television and radio?

Of course.

You're suggesting a state of absoulte corruption.

Absolutely correct. Planned corruption.

With this kind of technology, why do they need concentration camps?

Because there are always people that are resistant.

[giovonni]

Thanks Bill

Because there are always people that are resistant.

That's because i always drink my cool aid with Stevia ...

[Limor Wolf]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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The briefest answer...

Why Are Americans So Apathetic?

• Mass fluoridation (and probably also vaccines).
• The deliberately planned microwave effects of smart meters (see the work of Barrie Trower).
• Internet consumerism (the illusion that one is well-informed, but any actual action taken is zero apart from talking to one's friends who already know what you know).
• Mass cultural behavioral modification conditioning via covert electronic mind control programs effects.

Re the last, is far more pervasive than anyone might ever want to believe"

This is very important. I posted this a few days ago on the twin thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post843042

Now, to the second half of the title..

Thank you, Bill ~

[giovonni]

... hmm ...

[GuyFox]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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The briefest answer...

Why Are Americans So Apathetic?
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Yes. They are all over the United States. There are three in Arizona alone.

So they can control us to the point where we'll just hand over our guns?

That's what they hope. It depends on how effective this equipment becomes, how thoroughly installed it is everywhere, and whether or not people can ferret this stuff out and render it inoperative before that time arrives.

How about the idea of a conflict between moral conscience and what the mental command tells you do to?

You don't have the option not to act as it says the way that equipment is set up - if you are not aware enough to make a connection that it is not your thought. It does not negate choice, it just puts in a strong impluse or command. Those people who responded by calling that number had no idea what went through their heads. Some of this does require preconditioning to a response pattern.
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Good luck to them in mind controlling Me ... and You too Bill.

Do you think they can do it?
Project A cannot even get me to stick to "polite title threads" all of the time (haha)

[giovonni]

i suggest those that don't live in America (don't give it another thought) ...

From my research and perceptive this phenomena (syndrome) is a worldwide virus ...

And for those who carry that negative energy (and you know who you are) save it cos your going to need it to survive.

[giovonni]

will share this excellent conversation regarding the current (and past) American condition ...

Psychedelics vs. Babylon and New America with Dennis Speed

"Psychedelic awakening in politics in Babylon the problem with Obama, government conspiracy and repudiating the debt structure is all discussed with Larouche contributor Dennis Speed. Banking. Kennedy, and Alexander Hamilton are all discussed as well as the impact of LSD on America are discussed, in the uncensored Buzzsaw interview with Sean Stone" ...

Published June 13, 2014

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=93FfB_ulzss

[gripreaper]

Posted by giovonni (here)
Thanks Bill

Because there are always people that are resistant.

That's because i always drink my Kool aid with Stevia ...

Haha! Now that's funny, I don't care who you are! Levity and irreverent humor can also break any microwave entrainment, and that's why I'm incorrigibly unentrainable!