Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Project_Buggy_Beach]

"Default Re: Have you ever met an MKULTRA victim or similar?
I wanted to share something very important.
The last couple of days, we saw threads about Blizzard entertainment allowing the NSA to profile users via participation in online gaming (VR environments).
I have theorized for THREE YEARS that NSA/gov't agencies can use player profiles to target young kids and turn them into black ops assets.

You might laugh at me for saying that here, but I don't give a ****. I don't care if it sounds paranoid or ill.
It needs to be asked -- IS the government, or an arm of it that really needs to be regulated into the dirt, using VR profiles to "cherry pick" and "sheep dip" unsuspecting minors and young adults,
turning them into black ops dupes by feeding them carefully-crafted lines of bull****?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087597/




Remember this cornball movie? The first time I saw it even though at that time I thought the special effects were cheese/ball the idea of trolling humanity for heightened reflexes or a gift of piloting a craft or any desired trait that was built into the particular 'entertainment software' was a brilliant idea...

It would be interesting to interview a few of the pro players participating in FPS tournament platforms (those that would talk) would certainly have a few curious things to say, when you put enough hours into a FPS you begin to suspect there is more going on then meets the eye...

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I've seen that movie recently too, well, part of it.

Cornball made me LOL -- but you are right, it was heavy on the cheese,
but the concept is frightening.

You remember the film "Lawnmower Man"? Shows what happens when a morally simple mind (lack of experience) is drowned in the experience of the evil.
He becomes the embodiment (spiritually!) of evil and can't be stopped by the ordinary gatekeepers of the cyber world

I think both these films were saying, the "games" (training/alteration programs) would bear fruit.

"If there is evil in the seed, then what will be in the fruit?"

[donk]

That's kinda sync-y tesla, I was thinking of Max Headroom (who I believe first appeared in lawnmower man, which is a Stephen King, right?)...anyway I don't think the character was developed in that movie but the special effects were, and he's one of the first popularized AI characters ever (I was thinking about Jeffery's threads, at the time)

Added: guess I'm wrong:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character)

HEH!!! Also wrong about Lawnmower Man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawnmower_Man_(film)
Wow...this is strange:

The plot of Stephen King's 1975 short story "The Lawnmower Man" concerns Harold Parkette, who hires "Pastoral Greenery and Outdoor Services Inc." to cut his lawn. The serviceman who arrives to do the job has a lawnmower that mows the lawn by itself while he crawls, naked, behind the mower, eating the grass. The serviceman himself is actually a satyr who worships the Greek god Pan. When Parkette tries to call the police, the mower and its owner ritually kill him as a sacrifice to Pan.

Jeez...sorry...brain fart, I guess

Anyways...sorry, I'll try to stay on topic!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by donk (here)
That's kinda sync-y tesla, I was thinking of Max Headroom (who I believe first appeared in lawnmower man, which is a Stephen King, right?)...anyway I don't think the character was developed in that movie but the special effects were, and he's one of the first popularized AI characters ever (I was thinking about Jeffery's threads, at the time)

Added: guess I'm wrong:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_(character)

HEH!!! Also wrong about Lawnmower Man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawnmower_Man_(film)
Wow...this is strange:

The plot of Stephen King's 1975 short story "The Lawnmower Man" concerns Harold Parkette, who hires "Pastoral Greenery and Outdoor Services Inc." to cut his lawn. The serviceman who arrives to do the job has a lawnmower that mows the lawn by itself while he crawls, naked, behind the mower, eating the grass. The serviceman himself is actually a satyr who worships the Greek god Pan. When Parkette tries to call the police, the mower and its owner ritually kill him as a sacrifice to Pan.

Jeez...sorry...brain fart, I guess

Anyways...sorry, I'll try to stay on topic!

You're not wrong, there was another Lawnmower Man movie, lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawnmower_Man_(film)

Dr. Lawrence Angelo works for Virtual Space Industries, running experiments in increasing the intelligence of chimpanzees using drugs and virtual reality. One of the chimps escapes using the warfare tactics he was being trained for. Dr. Angelo is generally a pacifist, who would rather explore the intelligence-enhancing potential of his research without applying it for military purposes.

Jobe Smith, a local greenskeeper with an unknown learning disability, lives in the garden shed owned by the local priest, Father Francis McKeen. McKeen's brother, Terry, is a local landscape gardener and employs Jobe to help him with odd jobs. Father McKeen punishes the challenged Jobe with a belt whenever he fails to complete his chores.

Dr. Angelo realizes he needs a human subject to work with, and he spots Jobe mowing his lawn. Peter Parkette, Dr. Angelo's young neighbor, is friends with Jobe. Dr. Angelo invites both of them over to play some virtual reality games. Learning more about Jobe, Angelo persuades him to participate in his experiments, letting him know it will make him smarter. Jobe agrees and begins the program. Dr. Angelo makes it a point to redesign all the intelligence-boosting treatments without the "aggression factors" used in the chimpanzee experiments.

Jobe soon becomes smarter, for example, learning Latin in only two hours. Meanwhile Jobe also begins a sexual relationship with a young rich widow, Marnie. However, Jobe begins to display telepathic abilities and have hallucinations. He continues training at the lab, until an accident makes Dr. Angelo shut the program down. The project director, Sebastian Timms, employed by a mysterious agency known as The Shop, keeps tabs on the progress of the experiment, and discreetly swaps Dr. Angelo's new medications with the old Project 5 supply (reintroducing the "aggression factors" into the treatment).

Jobe develops telekinetic and pyrokinetic powers and takes Marnie to the lab to make love to her while in virtual reality. Something goes wrong in the simulation when Jobe's virtual avatar becomes violent, attacking her mind directly; Marnie is driven insane, laughing endlessly at nothing.

Jobe's powers continue to grow, but the treatments are also affecting his mental stability, and he decides to exact revenge on those who abused him when he was "dumb": Father McKeen is engulfed in flames, a bully named Jake is put into a catatonic state by a mental "lawnmower man" continually mowing his brain, and a lawnmower invention of Jobe's runs down Harold, Peter's abusive father. Jobe uses his telepathic abilities to make the investigating police attribute it all to "bizarre accidents" in front of Dr. Angelo.

Jobe believes his final stage of evolution is to become "pure energy" in the VSI computer mainframe, and from there reach into all the systems of the world. He promises his "birth" will be signaled by every telephone on the planet ringing simultaneously. The Shop sends a team to capture Jobe, but they are ineffective against his abilities and he scatters their molecules. Jobe uses the lab equipment to enter the mainframe computer, abandoning his body to become a wholly virtual being, leaving his body behind like a husk.

Dr. Angelo remotely infects the VSI computer, encrypting all of the links to the outside world, trapping Jobe in the mainframe. As Jobe searches for an unencrypted network connection, Dr. Angelo primes bombs to destroy the building. Feeling responsible for what has happened to Jobe, Angelo then joins him in virtual reality to try to reason with him. Jobe overpowers and crucifies him, then continues to search for a network connection. Peter runs into the building; Jobe still cares for him and allows Dr. Angelo to go free in order to rescue Peter. Jobe forces a computer-connected lock to open, allowing Peter and Dr. Angelo to escape. Jobe escapes through a backdoor as the building is destroyed in multiple explosions.

Back at home with Peter, Dr. Angelo and Peter's mother Carla (who has become a romantic interest) are about to leave when their telephone rings, followed by the noise of a second, and then hundreds, all around the globe.

Btw I read that short story you mentioned a few years ago and it was a real WTF moment. lol!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

p.s. No offense to anyone in this thread, but let's not talk about violence against the system or gov't.

That is not my approach to solving the problem of corruption. Violence only helps the wrong side cook their books.

Please, when posting to MKULTRA threads, especially this one, users should refrain from suggesting any "action" or "violence" (of any kind).

You should feel free to describe things you have experienced in the past or present.
But please do NOT suggest that in the present or future, we subjects (and suspected subjects) should "organize" to cause harm to any group or agency.

The press is pretty powerful on its own, and so is the whistleblowing and legal channel.
Please try to exhaust all of these options before trying to encourage strangers to get intro trouble.

The point of this thread is disclosure, not baiting the police.

People who try to instigate havoc in the lives of others are called "handlers".
I really hope that Handlers are not on PA posing as Victims.

Targeted Individuals exist, and gangstalking exists -- this isn't some game we are playing in our heads, there are real people and monsters out there who DO watch and read everything we say and DO get offended --

seriously, don't beg to be neutralized or drag us into that.

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Again, no offense -- just be careful what you say -- guess I am a tad paranoid about panty-twisting the thought police!

"They are guarding all the doors, they are holding all the keys" ~ The Matrix

I can't dodge bullets, can you? lol or cars

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I was watching that creepy Queensryche music video today for a few minutes, "Operation Mindcrime".
It's in a few other threads, but could someone help me scope out the semi-subliminals in the background of the video?
Every once in a while a random word or image will appear behind the performers and the character actor throughout the film.
Also some of the subjects make gestures that seem symbolic (watch the older gentleman at the end).

Very cool movie.

(I am having trouble getting Youtube to work atm, omg)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vAI2QOBMlTA

Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime


also don't miss:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k0BWlvnBmIE

Katy Perry - Wide Awake

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0

Judas Priest - Electric Eye (live!)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_se_CYDm8jI

Scorpions - Media Overkill

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[Project_Buggy_Beach]

I've seen that movie recently too, well, part of it.

Cornball made me LOL -- but you are right, it was heavy on the cheese,
but the concept is frightening.

I was focusing more on the concept of the software being used to troll for desired traits, in The Last Starfighter it was an alien race that had installed warship simulator console platforms all over the universe searching for high performers that could sufficiently pilot a hybrid ship and then to use these high score individuals to help fight their off world war...

The Lawnmower Man movie was more an idea of a mildly retarded individual being taken over by a spirit in cyberspace, what's the difference between cyber space and the spirit world?

Connecting the dots when we see commando style school shooters go AWOL to FSP's I don't believe is a huge stretch but I don't believe all of them are evil, like you said they're being exposed to a powerful force they didn't expect to run into when just trying to play and have fun. Their self identity and self worth becomes confused and infused with their online characters similar to the rash of DND suicides that took place in the 1980's, but the difference there was the DND world was based on fantasy and didn't try to mimic reality. The Holographic Universe is a book that's been referenced many times in Avalon, and I believe is a more correct explanation for the violence, simply, your thoughts do manifest in reality.

I don't condone violence or suggest it, at the same time there are situations when even if you are doomed to failure and may die, you have to try because allowing the conditions to continue as they are is intolerable. Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.

[donk]

Posted by donk (here)

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She was born in Ecuador and was taken by her father to a "specialist" when she was a kid when she exhibited exames of telekenisis and prescience a couple times in a short period. Her father was American scientist working for University of Alabama...she was in the first group ever tested for what was then an experimental growth hormone, which she took daily injections of as she was tiny and I guess that wasn't acceptable to the 'rents...or they maybe they made some medical excuse, I can't get clarity as the father is estranged and mother is clueless...

So I got some more info when my babe called her dad for Father's Day: apparently she was the FIRST of what he called HGH (human growth hormone, apparently that's as scientific of a name as they gave it, they don't have specific types? Well they didn't in the early 80's, anyway), a group of 10-12 children, all but her and one other kid died from it.

She has memory of it "burning her brain" when she was 1 or whenever and taking it. Also, she has recall of an incident where her "nanny" dropped her at 6 months, which softened her skull, damaged her pituitary, and apparently brought on "dwarfism", the reason the 'rents decided to try the experimental therapy. She is about 5 foot nothing, as opposed to the 3 feet the damaged pituitary gland was supposed to make her.

She remembers not pain at 6 months, but a lightness, like her brain was removed. The nanny left her in the crib, where she lay for hours, her mom turned on the light and put her finger on her head, and she says she felt the feeling her mom had of the finger pushing into her soft skull, remembers her yelping for her dad, and was uncharacteristically specific in recalling she went to the "Kennedy Hospital", which I guess I need to research, where they said they immediate operation would kill her, so they had to let the swelling and whatever reaction her brain had play out before they could act. She didn’t remember anything after that, until a year later when she recalls the burning brain to be the worst feeling in her life.

I can’t imagine the feeling of being 6 months left in crib for hours alone (the nanny just bolted, god knows what the consequences were to what was really a slave—Ecuador rich/poor divide was such that the poorest were happy to be slaves…I mean ‘maids’…in the upper middle class families), and I was chilled listening to her recount this (again, she had told me before but less detail and different context).

Anyway I got fascinated with the concept from “Fringe”, I think it was…JJ Abrahms seems to use HGH as a device in some of the plots of some of his works—it was definitely the second or third mention that caught my attention but the star of that series had some kind of experimental therapy and I am not sure there is any connection, though I wanted to put the idea out there and hash it out. Also the hwhole child experiment thing with 90% of the kids dying…in Fringe all the kids were “failed” experiments except the star and one other

Anyway just rambling, any insight is appreciated...

[donk]

Forgot one thing: her dad said the original treatment (that killed all the kids) was actual HGH supposedly harvest from actual human pituitary glands (from deceased humans), and that she was switched to a more artificial/synthesized treatment that I guess was less fatal

[Ahnung-quay]

I met a woman a few years ago that had been a victim of an MKULTRA type program when she was a child. She has quite a few psychic abilities.

She has a somewhat disordered personality and some would call her a psychiatric case. She can become very changeable and anxious. However, she indicated that her present personality is nothing compared to the way she was before she started healing. She told several of us that she didn't remember most events from her childhood until she started her own healing process. She said that the memories, when they started coming were horrible; not a normal childhood at all.

The way she chose to heal was to sun dance with the Lakota people and that is how she began recovering memories.

She now uses her psychic abilities and her ability to travel the inter-dimensional highway in spiritual ways. She gives teachings and leads ceremonies. I believe she also has had contact with ET's which the Lakota (and most other Native Americans) call star people.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by donk (here)
Forgot one thing: her dad said the original treatment (that killed all the kids) was actual HGH supposedly harvest from actual human pituitary glands (from deceased humans), and that she was switched to a more artificial/synthesized treatment that I guess was less fatal

This is what my uncle claims happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger when his brother died.