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    Most chemtrails are made up of barium and aluminum, which create bluish(alum) and redish,or pinkish to orangish(barium) colorings in the clouds.
    I am with you Daphne, always filing away in my mind the odd things in the sky, be it clouds, patterns, and the continual covering up of the sunrise and sunset.constant.
    They ARE covering up something. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.
    I also believe what ever it is, cannot be seen with an ordinary telescope,and is only seen within a different light spectrum, like infrared or other, hence, most people.looki.g for it are not seeing it.
    Lets face it, the chemtrail operation must cost trillions of bucks,the entire planet, every day, is not.cheap. it also serves many purposes. But the fact is, they are hiding the sun. That is a fact. (Or something near it).
    Whatever the reason, it cant be good.
    Keep on watching,videoing,photographing. Every now and then someone captures something.

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
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    While observing yet more Chem-trails I wondered why one thick one had sudden gaps init? Did the plane (Craft) suddenly stop spraying or change tanks or was it an atmospheric change!

    [...]
    Imagine the X axis as being a plane flight path and the sine wave the trace in a vertical cross-section of the corrugated interface between hot, moist and cold, dry air sub-horizontal layers:



    There is your "intermittent" trail... and cloud formations; usually in a wavy pattern.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
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    While observing yet more Chem-trails I wondered why one thick one had sudden gaps init? Did the plane (Craft) suddenly stop spraying or change tanks or was it an atmospheric change!

    [...]
    Imagine the X axis as being a plane flight path and the sine wave the trace in a vertical cross-section of the corrugated interface between hot, moist and cold, dry air sub-horizontal layers:



    There is your "intermittent" trail... and cloud formations; usually in a wavy pattern.
    Thanks Amzer Zo but what i'm actually saying is, that upon close inspection of the 2 blanked out areas is that, there actually were areas that vertically matched the sky and that the chem-trail going behind them exposed them, I would not have noticed other wise! filming the sky and then adding contrast or other filtering might also show them up!
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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

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ID:	27258Hi Sunny side up, I thought the made breaks intentionally because it was less obvious when they form into smaller "clouds". The ones in the AM don't come from planes that I can see and the rest of my sky since my CB was built are bluer than blue - some of that dark blue I remember as a kid. But you idea on the short trails is interesting. Here is a picture I took yesterday. Here are several with the object and a cloud is covering it partially. Can a lens flare appear under a cloud?

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    It's not under the cloud it's transparent. The cloud is showing through the transparency of the lens flare in front.


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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    It's not under the cloud it's transparent. The cloud is showing through the transparency of the lens flare in front.

    Would that be true if some pictures of the object are in front of clouds and some behind?

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    I really don't understand what you mean but I can promise you that is simply a lens flare. They're transparent.

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    Quote Posted by Daphne (here)
    Would that be true if some pictures of the object are in front of clouds and some behind?
    Do you mean something like this:



    If this is not a lens flare then it can only be Planet X !

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    Why do people think this object is real and visible?

    If it were real, millions would be able to see it. I just don't get it.

    Nick

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    Although I am with Nick on this one with respect to such a huge, 3D, physical celestial object remaining undetected by any amateur instruments (most reliable in view of what I am about to write in what follows); however, and for the sake of balance, one must also take the followings into account regarding human perceptions:

    1. When the Spaniards invaded the "New World," too many of the natives were totally unable to SEE the ships arriving and mooring. Only a few "aware" individuals were able to see it and, of course, not many "believed" them...
    2. The phenomenon of the "Third Man in the Room":
      Quote There is a little known fact about hypnosis that is illustrated by the following story:

      A subject was told under hypnosis that when he was awakened he would be unable to see a third man in the room who, it was suggested to him, would have become invisible. All the "proper" suggestions to make this "true" were given, such as "you will NOT see so- and-so" etc... When the subject was awakened, lo and behold! the suggestions did NOT work.

      Why? Because they went against his belief system. He did NOT believe that a person could become invisible.

      So, another trial was made. The subject was hypnotized again and was told that the third man was leaving the room... that he had been called away on urgent business, and the scene of him getting on his coat and hat was described... the door was opened and shut to provide "sound effects," and then the subject was brought out of the trance.

      Guess what happened?

      He was UNABLE TO SEE the Third Man.

      Why? Because his perceptions were modified according to his beliefs. Certain "censors" in his brain were activated in a manner that was acceptable to his ego survival instincts.

      The ways and means that we ensure survival of the ego are established pretty early in life by our parental and societal programming. This conditioning determines what IS or is NOT possible; what we are "allowed" to believe in order to be accepted. We learn this first by learning what pleases our parents and then later we modify our belief based on what pleases our society - our peers - to believe.

      Anyway, to return to our story, the Third Man went about the room picking things up and setting them down and doing all sorts of things to test the subject's awareness of his presence, and the subject became utterly hysterical at this "anomalous" activity! He could see objects moving through the air, doors opening and closing, but he could NOT see the SOURCE because he did not believe that there was another man in the room.

      So, what are the implications of this factor of human consciousness? (By the way, this is also the reason why most therapies to stop bad habits do not work - they attempt to operate against a "belief system" that is imprinted in the subconscious that this or that habit is essential to survival.)

      One of the first things we might observe is that everyone has a different set of beliefs based upon their social and familial conditioning, and that these beliefs determine how much of the OBJECTIVE reality anyone is able to access.

      In the above story, the objective reality IS WHAT IT IS, whether it is truly objective, or only a consensus reality. In this story, there is clearly a big part of that reality that is inaccessible to the subject due to a perception censor which was activated by the suggestions of the hypnotist. That is to say, the subject has a strong belief, based upon his CHOICE as to who or what to believe - the hypnotist or his own, unfettered observations of reality. In this case, he has chosen to believe the hypnotist and not what he might be able to observe if he dispensed with the perception censor put in place by the hypnotist who activated his "belief center" - even if that activation was fraudulent.

      And so it is with nearly all human beings: we believe the hypnotist - the "official culture" - and we are able, with preternatural cunning, to deny what is often right in front of our faces. And in the case of the hypnosis subject, he is entirely at the mercy of the "Invisible Man" because he chooses not to see him.

    The reverse of the above is also obtainable via the same processes:

    Seeing things that ain't there!

    At all!

    Is it really impossible to get a whole planet into an hypnotic state?

    Not really, according to Truman Cash (THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET) and many other experiencers and abductees... all it takes is a well honed assembly line processing/recycling souls/beings either during their sleep or in between lives and one gets an ignorant and unable-to-perceive planetary population... not much really.

    That said, please, get acquainted with lens flares and quit confusing them with objects in them thar skies!

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    I can't find the reference now (will try again later) but I read that the old story about the ships being so outside the natives' experience that they couldn't see them turned out to be either a mistranslation or misunderstanding of what was reported. But as often happens, it was an early story and just got repeated until it became 'established fact' - as Avelonians we all understand such concepts...

    Why single out native Americans for this gap in perception? In the 1840s many Englishmen had never heard about the steam train, or in the 1900s the motor car or aeroplane, but these devices were certainly seen when they passed.

    Back on topic: No, I can't go along with something like this being 'invisible' no non-hypnotised people (yes, many believe we're all hypnotized through the TV, electric light, Illuminati-controlled scarlar waves...). But amateur astronomers are LOOKING for new things and any one of them would love to become famous as the first person to identify something.

    So an object that is so big it's would be visible with the naked eye by millions, if not billions of people (but in practice almost exclusively only ever appears in videos or photos - a clue there...?) just wouldn't get overlooked.

    Nick

    PS: The video "is not available in your country".

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    I've seen the coloring too in the clouds and always questioned it. Just seems odd that it would change colors when it shouldnt.

    Most of the time I just assume their chem trails.

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    what is carlos munoz time line i thought it had come and gone.

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
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    Why single out native Americans for this gap in perception? In the 1840s many Englishmen had never heard about the steam train, or in the 1900s the motor car or aeroplane, but these devices were certainly seen when they passed.

    [...]
    ... same way as "mass hysteria" propagates as some sort of "consciousness"/ knowledge of something about to surface out of a collective work/consciousness.

    Not so for a disconnected continent.

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    I just posted this one minute video and it shows an orb like planetary object moving through the dark clouds and emerging from time to time as it goes up and down around the sun. I don't think this is an lens flare, but if anyone can tell me what it is I would be happy. Remember that the objects are between the sun and us and they are not huge in the sky yet, though some are pretty big and can be seen with the right lighting.

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    this sunset was yesterday and there were a couple of chemtrails laid out early, but totally clear skies before the sunset. Notice the first sun goes under the horizon sometime in the 9th minute, but the sky is still blue and the sun behind the red clouds keeps going down until for another 15 minutes at least. I left before the sky was at all dark (barely twilight) but if the top of the sun goes under the horizon, isn't it supposed to get pretty dark within a few minutes? Also, look at my closeups on the clouds- weird crap in them. Could it all be due to chemtrails? Also, the shape of the "upper cloud" is moving very slowly to the left and above that are 2 upside down comma looking lines that stayed in place for most of the show too. I think these are pretty convincing...

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    Please check out the video of 2 sun sunset I would love opinions

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    Default Re: Planet X Confirmed By Carlos Muñoz Ferrada; Orbit, Speed And Size Reveals A Comet-Planet

    This is a photo and a close up I took today. The image shows what looks like a wispy bit of cloud in the air, you would never be able to see it in the glare of the light of the sun or SUNS. But in photos taken with an iPhone 5 one can see all kinds of things.

    In the close up is shown a small gray orb (nibiru) followed by a train of red (iron oxide) dust in which can be seen several distinct reddish round orbs (moons?) and to the left of the end of that if you look very carefully you will see shadows of other trailing objects.

    Don't discount it without taking a few pix with your own iPhone or other camera. It's best when the clouds are around the sun.
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    Quote Posted by Daphne (here)
    This is a photo and a close up I took today. The image shows what looks like a wispy bit of cloud in the air, you would never be able to see it in the glare of the light of the sun or SUNS. But in photos taken with an iPhone 5 one can see all kinds of things.

    In the close up is shown a small gray orb (nibiru) followed by a train of red (iron oxide) dust in which can be seen several distinct reddish round orbs (moons?) and to the left of the end of that if you look very carefully you will see shadows of other trailing objects.

    Don't discount it without taking a few pix with your own iPhone or other camera. It's best when the clouds are around the sun.
    This is the original photo showing all the trouble the chemtrailers took to try to hide what is becoming a more and more obvious show. I have taken thousands of pictures and I am getting a lot better at it. I find things in a large percentage of pix that are not normal.
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