Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Robin]

I was contemplating starting a thread concerning the use of the Oxford comma, but then I thought that members would ridicule it because it is irrelevant to conspiracies. Then I thought about somehow turning it into a conspiracy by researching different personality types and seeing how they fit into utilizing the Oxford comma, coupled with comparing that to the idea that this is an example of clear division with humanity (if we cannot agree on this silly subject, how can we ever agree to more important ones?). Then I found myself thinking about starting a thread in the members-only section, but.....ehhh.

So I'll just post an interesting/compelling/silly link here, and for those who are interested, do check out!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/th...should#3ewphdg

[Nat_Lee]

I need.URGENT healling... My back hurtss.. I Almost.cant walk... very painfull in my low back. Who can send me healing energy please..?.

[eaglespirit]

Healing Love to You, Nat_Lee
We are ALL in this for You!

[eaglespirit]

A bit of a short story revealed to me tonite by a friend of the brother(in law) of the husband and wife I am living with.
Did I tell You that They are beautiful and endless giving people?! : )

Seems this Friend knows quite a bit about the rather devious and unthinkable things that have gone on for years...and still going on to one degree or another as I type.

The company he is now retired from at one time in it's early history was rather incredulously involved in human testing unbeknownst to those employees until the statute of limitations expired and the truth came out.

There is only one very old and severely deformed Woman surviving from this travesty. Class action never took place but this Woman had uncovered this mess and has an active suit of her own which presumably is still valid and filed before expiration and billions of dollars involved...whose going to collect?, ummm, the lawyers if the story is as told.
I am going to look more into it.
The Woman is on Her deathbed with no surviving Family Heirs.

Seems the company was doing some rather interesting testing with the 'oatmeal' they fed the employees in the cafeteria. A newer poison at the time was lacing all the oatmeal served all the time back then. The state??? and??? were involved. Hundreds of slow and atrocious deaths were the result through the following years.

And You all know from this site and elsewhere that this has been and is going on somehow somewhere...but to hear it from someone that is connected to the story rather directly was a bit of a shock even for me because this occurred so close by.

Why? Why? Why?

[RunningDeer]

Sending now, NatLee...
Paula <3

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Nat_Lee (here)
I need.URGENT healling... My back hurtss.. I Almost.cant walk... very painfull in my low back. Who can send me healing energy please..?.

Sent. Sending. :~)

Also, Natalie, my twisted back that took 1 year to finally heal was finally healed by acupuncture. Powerful stuff.

Dennis

[Violet]

For Sam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...nd_Flanders.29

The extent to which your society judges your intellect by your ability to use the Oxford comma will make for your worries to accordingly in- or decrease.

What's that trick again to find a lost thing? I lost my cam.

Nat, I hear Juniper Berry's good for muscle ache. Also, I (mis)used herbal artritis pommade for this purpose and it did wonders.

Sync: mosquito nest in the gutter in the garden. As soon as the lid comes off, hundreds of mosquitos swarm out (we don't do that of course, but the lost cat occasionally does after which we have to spend at least three days clearing the house. I don't see why he would want to go hide in there by his own volition. You'd think the mosquitos would sting him to death). The trick is to keep doors and windows closed on that side of the house. Then again, rooms need ventilating. We put a fine mesh beneath the ground roster so the mosquitos don't get out but they are still very visibly in there and eventually they do find their way into the house because they are in the ventilation system, so they come out through the ventilation rosters in the house walls. I can't all tape them off. Plus whatever I pour into the rosters (e.g. chlorine) will run through the ventilation system into our own system. I'm guessing there's a sewer problem somewhere that causes permanent still water to attract the mosquitos.
And hoping things will calm down as temperatures start dropping.

[araucaria]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
I was contemplating starting a thread concerning the use of the Oxford comma, but then I thought that members would ridicule it because it is irrelevant to conspiracies. Then I thought about somehow turning it into a conspiracy by researching different personality types and seeing how they fit into utilizing the Oxford comma, coupled with comparing that to the idea that this is an example of clear division with humanity (if we cannot agree on this silly subject, how can we ever agree to more important ones?). Then I found myself thinking about starting a thread in the members-only section, but.....ehhh.

So I'll just post an interesting/compelling/silly link here, and for those who are interested, do check out!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/th...should#3ewphdg

I am not going to get drawn into this debate, beyond recommending some reading(,) and quoting one way of subverting the issue.

The book is Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation by Lynne Truss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eats,_Shoots_%26_Leaves

The quote is from Proust: an interesting passage on what he called the ‘three adjective rule’:

It was the time when well-bred people observed the rule of affability and what was called the rule of the three adjectives. Mme. de Cambremer combined the two rules in one. A laudatory adjective was not enough for her, she followed it (after a little stroke of the pen) with a second, then (after another stroke), with a third. But, what was peculiar to herself was that, in defiance of the literary and social object at which she aimed, the sequence of the three epithets assumed in Mme. de Cambremer’s notes the aspect not of a progression but of a diminuendo. Mme. de Cambremer told me in this first letter that she had seen Saint-Loup and had appreciated more than ever his ‘unique — rare — real’ qualities, that he was coming to them again with one of his friends (the one who was in love with her daughter-in-law), and that if I cared to come, with or without them, to dine at Féterne she would be ‘delighted — happy — pleased.’ Perhaps it was because her desire to be friendly outran the fertility of her imagination and the riches of her vocabulary that the lady, while determined to utter three exclamations, was incapable of making the second and third anything more than feeble echoes of the first. Add but a fourth adjective, and, of her initial friendliness, there would be nothing left. Cities of the plain, II,II

http://proustpourtous.over-blog.com/...100656819.html

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)
Had to share this Sunday afternoon read:

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...from-venus.jpg

You have to click on the image to be able to read it.

Wonderful Ulli, and i read it only after quoting from the world's most famous tea drinker. Maximum potential difference is what makes for a great metaphor, and these kids were doing great guns until they themselves exploded in midair.

The problem was of course that Gary was not obeying instructions - he was working with the student on his LEFT B minus for the teacher's wording of the assignment.

http://www.fisheaters.com/proust.html

[eaglespirit]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Had to share this Sunday afternoon read:

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...from-venus.jpg

You have to click on the image to be able to read it.

Wonderful Ulli, and i read it only after quoting from the world's most famous tea drinker. Maximum potential difference is what makes for a great metaphor, and these kids were doing great guns until they themselves exploded in midair.

The problem was of course that Gary was not obeying instructions - he was working with the student on his LEFT B minus for the teacher's wording of the assignment.

http://www.fisheaters.com/proust.html

...and so it is

Thank You Samwise and Ulli and Araucaria

"Remembrance of Things Past"

Ten times over I must essay the task, must lean down over the abyss. And each time the natural laziness which deters us from every difficult enterprise, every work of importance, has urged me to leave the thing alone, to drink my tea and to think merely of the worries of to-day and of my hopes for to-morrow, which let themselves be pondered over without effort or distress of mind.

...what is depended upon by manipulators,
and, if and but and now
as enough of us intently and earnestly and relentlessly re-craft the mold,
a new way becomes the way

[araucaria]

You’re dead right Dan, and for the right reasons. The title is offputting because it really means ‘In Search of Lost Time’ in the sense of ‘outside time’: “As if our true nature were outside time, created to taste the eternal” (Proust in Jean Santeuil). You (we) don’t need this book, but maybe this book needs me? You don’t need this book because you know exactly what it is talking about without reading it. In fact, you are way beyond that. We all have our own way of getting there. It’s actually about shortcuts, so in a sense it caters for its non-readers : )

An exquisite pleasure had invaded my senses, but individual, detached, with no suggestion of its origin. And at once the vicissitudes of life had become indifferent to me, its disasters innocuous, its brevity illusory--this new sensation having had on me the effect which love has of filling me with a precious essence; or rather this essence was not in me, it was myself. I had ceased now to feel mediocre, accidental, mortal. Whence could it have come to me, this all-powerful joy? I was conscious that it was connected with the taste of tea and cake, but that it infinitely transcended those savours, could not, indeed, be of the same nature as theirs. Whence did it come? What did it signify? How could I seize upon and define it?

[Flash]

Posted by Nat_Lee (here)
I need.URGENT healling... My back hurtss.. I Almost.cant walk... very painfull in my low back. Who can send me healing energy please..?.

Appelles-moi

Je t'envoie de la paix et de l'amour ainsi que des intentions de guérisons

C'est très important que tu ailles te faire vérifier le dos, peut-être que ce n'est qu'une entorse lombaire, mais pour te remettre tu auras besoin de relaxants pour les muscles, et cela pourrait être une hernie auquel cas tu aurais besoin de traitements. On ne niaise pas avec le dos Nath.

Je t'aime ma chère amie, prends soin de toi, ton fils en a besoin


I ended up in the hospital last year for a lombar muscle brake, it took two weeks to come back, and i was Under morphine because of travelling in UK and Ireland 2 days after it happened.

I have studied the back injuries last week for my new job, it is very important to take care of it, it could have long term conséquences.

[eaglespirit]

...just one more, going to work, Love You All : )

..........
STOP THEM!!!

This place called facebook has some loving corners and that is a good thing...but ultimately 'facebook' is a BIG part of the ugly control/monetary/war machine...trying to get info from us daily and incessantly, keeping people pre-occupied with little games and high fives of nonsense...it is simply a very strong way of trickery to keep track of us.

Well...keep track of this, your day is done..there are enough little peasants that have woken up and DOING things daily now that we are going to 'trump' you. You better back off now because we are going to throw so much Truth and LOVE in your faces that you are going to breakdown like a caught thief trapped in a corner with nowhere to go. ENOUGH!!!

You and me, my friends, are relentlessly looked DOWN at as little peasants and puppets...and THEY enjoy that....but without us in their ugly game they have no where to go but literally off of this beautiful place, Mother Earth. Make them go away!

And for all you spiritual and religious gurus making tons of money off of YOUR People, on the internet and in daily life...your time is up too...either change and help right now or something is coming your way that will literally hurt so badly you will cower in your deceit.

Those of you playing games here, wake up, now! Those of you here being paid to be sneaky little spies and troublemakers and perverts...go away..you will be hurt deeply soon..in every way imaginable if YOU do not stop and change TODAY and start doing nothing but good things in front of you instead..

And for you actors and actresses and sicker manipulated musicians and medical gurus and politicians and bankers and mega-business people(ripping the hearts out of local people all over the world) that are deep in this the above goes for you too. Better change your ways, like today...or the hurt you are creating and doing is coming back upon you like a tsunami.

Us little peasants are now ACTIVELY changing this beautiful place everywhere with Our Hearts...even 'facebook'!

Here We Are!!!

[Carmody]

Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)
I was contemplating starting a thread concerning the use of the Oxford comma, but then I thought that members would ridicule it because it is irrelevant to conspiracies. Then I thought about somehow turning it into a conspiracy by researching different personality types and seeing how they fit into utilizing the Oxford comma, coupled with comparing that to the idea that this is an example of clear division with humanity (if we cannot agree on this silly subject, how can we ever agree to more important ones?). Then I found myself thinking about starting a thread in the members-only section, but.....ehhh.

So I'll just post an interesting/compelling/silly link here, and for those who are interested, do check out!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/th...should#3ewphdg

use it only where necessary to avoid ambiguity.

Ie, read your sentence and then try to make it read incorrectly. Is it possible to have the reader misinterpret? If so, use the comma, or don't use the comma - accordingly.

Falls under the "eats, shoots, and leaves" category of potential misunderstandings.


(Panda is apparently akimbo)


Note that I tend to use the spaced hyphen symbol, for any given point of separation that maybe required. In some cases, that is.

[Carmody]

Posted by eaglespirit (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Had to share this Sunday afternoon read:

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...from-venus.jpg

You have to click on the image to be able to read it.

Wonderful Ulli, and i read it only after quoting from the world's most famous tea drinker. Maximum potential difference is what makes for a great metaphor, and these kids were doing great guns until they themselves exploded in midair.

The problem was of course that Gary was not obeying instructions - he was working with the student on his LEFT B minus for the teacher's wording of the assignment.

http://www.fisheaters.com/proust.html

...and so it is

Thank You Samwise and Ulli and Araucaria

"Remembrance of Things Past"

Ten times over I must essay the task, must lean down over the abyss. And each time the natural laziness which deters us from every difficult enterprise, every work of importance, has urged me to leave the thing alone, to drink my tea and to think merely of the worries of to-day and of my hopes for to-morrow, which let themselves be pondered over without effort or distress of mind.

...what is depended upon by manipulators,
and, if and but and now
as enough of us intently and earnestly and relentlessly re-craft the mold,
a new way becomes the way

The body is designed to think solely of the 'now' but in the mundane sense of small-circle immediacy. Like that of the child. When you look at people with that in mind, you can easily see the 5 year old child in them, the child with no understanding beyond the given now. Look a bit deeper and you can see the very young child of pure emotion.

Then, at such a point, with those two idealizations in mind...look again, it is easy to see the sheen of intellect in the brain that rides in an almost separated state, being almost wholly affected, shifted, and colored by those two underlying layers.

Then, the most difficult part. Look inside, look in the mirror.... and see it in the self.

This sort of mental construction issue is why I'm not very fond of the people who want to treat their children, like children. Ones who want their children to be protected (bubbled in society, etc) and as children --for as long as possible. To give them time to grow up. What an incredibly ludicrous statement and act. It is difficult to be more detrimental to a child than that. Since the mind is in the act of being wired, these sort of behaviors (between children and adults) are just as effective as any given trauma when it comes to wiring the pathways of a given growing mind.

If they do not encourage intelligence and recognition of the constructional aspects of self in the small person, while the neural pathways are forming, they make the issue more extreme and permanent for the 'adult'.

IMO, the greater potential lies in treating the child (in some ways) as an adult, one with low levels of data and time under their belt. To not damage with traumatizing events, but to not create neural pathways that are nearly impossible to escape, pathways that create mentally internally separated children that never mature at the potential they had as children.

In essence...there is no such thing as a child (we use the word incorrectly, in meaning and interpretation), there is only a being, a consciousness... trying to integrate with a growing avatar. Some may feel this is very incorrect, and that I don't know children. If so, please go back to the start of the post..and read again, applying the data to the self......

When the dominoes fall (cascading through the logic of it), you can see that for all of human history, about +99% of children were/are raising children. We're not raising adults, as we have little to no real concept of what that means.

For example, most importantly, consider: If humans had, originally, +900 year lifespans..how would a 500 year old human..raise... a newborn?

[sheme]

Just reading about different blood types, it was claimed that all RH negatives are on some list and their location is known?

[ulli]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by eaglespirit (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Had to share this Sunday afternoon read:

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...from-venus.jpg

You have to click on the image to be able to read it.

Wonderful Ulli, and i read it only after quoting from the world's most famous tea drinker. Maximum potential difference is what makes for a great metaphor, and these kids were doing great guns until they themselves exploded in midair.

The problem was of course that Gary was not obeying instructions - he was working with the student on his LEFT B minus for the teacher's wording of the assignment.

http://www.fisheaters.com/proust.html

...and so it is

Thank You Samwise and Ulli and Araucaria

"Remembrance of Things Past"

Ten times over I must essay the task, must lean down over the abyss. And each time the natural laziness which deters us from every difficult enterprise, every work of importance, has urged me to leave the thing alone, to drink my tea and to think merely of the worries of to-day and of my hopes for to-morrow, which let themselves be pondered over without effort or distress of mind.

...what is depended upon by manipulators,
and, if and but and now
as enough of us intently and earnestly and relentlessly re-craft the mold,
a new way becomes the way

The body is designed to think solely of the 'now' but in the mundane sense of small-circle immediacy. Like that of the child. When you look at people with that in mind, you can easily see the 5 year old child in them, the child with no understanding beyond the given now. Look a bit deeper and you can see the very young child of pure emotion.

Then, at such a point, with those two idealizations in mind...look again, it is easy to see the sheen of intellect in the brain that rides in an almost separated state, being almost wholly affected, shifted, and colored by those two underlying layers.

Then, the most difficult part. Look inside, look in the mirror.... and see it in the self.

This sort of mental construction issue is why I'm not very fond of the people who want to treat their children, like children. Ones who want their children to be protected (bubbled in society, etc) and as children --for as long as possible. To give them time to grow up. What an incredibly ludicrous statement and act. It is difficult to be more detrimental to a child than that. Since the mind is in the act of being wired, these sort of behaviors (between children and adults) are just as effective as any given trauma when it comes to wiring the pathways of a given growing mind.

If they do not encourage intelligence and recognition of the constructional aspects of self in the small person, while the neural pathways are forming, they make the issue more extreme and permanent for the 'adult'.

IMO, the greater potential lies in treating the child (in some ways) as an adult, one with low levels of data and time under their belt. To not damage with traumatizing events, but to not create neural pathways that are nearly impossible to escape, pathways that create mentally internally separated children that never mature at the potential they had as children.

In essence...there is no such thing as a child (we use the word incorrectly, in meaning and interpretation), there is only a being, a consciousness... trying to integrate with a growing avatar. Some may feel this is very incorrect, and that I don't know children. If so, please go back to the start of the post..and read again, applying the data to the self......

When the dominoes fall (cascading through the logic of it), you can see that for all of human history, about +99% of children were/are raising children. We're not raising adults, as we have little to no real concept of what that means.

For example, most importantly, consider: If humans had, originally, +900 year lifespans..how would a 500 yea old human..raise... a newborn?

The most important thing a society can do for it's future is educate the women.
Women are the first educators of the next generation. Kids spend the first couple of years of their lives in frustration due to their limited communication ability, so by the time they can finally form sentences they mostly begin with why, where, when, etc.
And their uneducated mothers often have no clue how to respond to this bombardment of questions as they themselves don't know the answers.
So they become abusive and want to keep their children at a permanent baby level, when such irritations did not exist.
Or they threaten them with lashes and beatings...and thus knock their natural curiosity and love for learning out of them, never allowing it to bloom.

Once when I was driving my son to school...he was five at the time, he asked me out of the blue:
"Mum, why is there nothing faster than the speed of light?"
And I had to say, son, let me think about that one...and I did, and came to the conclusion that thoughts might be faster, although it took a few more years. But I didn't ridicule him for asking that question...in fact, I might have old one it wi the "question everything!" motto, because he has taken that one to heart, and now he drives me nuts.
I can't even say what a nice day we are having without him responding with "are we really?"

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)
The most important thing a society can do for it's future is educate the women.
Women are the first educators of the next generation. Kids spend the first couple of years of their lives in frustration due to their limited communication ability, so by the time they can finally form sentences they mostly begin with why, where, when, etc.
And their uneducated mothers often have no clue how to respond to this bombardment of questions as they themselves don't know the answers.
So they become abusive and want to keep their children at a permanent baby level, when such irritations did not exist.
Or they threaten them with lashes and beatings...and thus knock their natural curiosity and love for learning out of them, never allowing it to bloom.

Once when I was driving my son to school...he was five at the time, he asked me out of the blue:
"Mum, why is there nothing faster than the speed of light?"
And I had to say, son, let me think about that one...and I did, and came to the conclusion that thoughts might be faster, although it took a few more years. But I didn't ridicule him for asking that question...in fact, I might have old one it wi the "question everything!" motto, because he has taken that one to heart, and now he drives me nuts.
I can't even say what a nice day we are having without him responding with "are we really?"

The usual answer to this sort of question would be, 'Ask your Dad'. The trouble being Dad's not here, or that man you're living with is not my Dad... In other words, there is a sore lack of male presence in too many households, and this has been going on for a couple of generations now. I'm sure parents are generally doing a wonderful job bringing up other people's kids, but I can't help feeling something is being lost, possibly in terms almost of physical compatibility. I am thinking of the heart brain, the stomach brain, things like that, or maybe it has something to do with DNA. When you get an organ transplant, often some of the donor’s tastes or character traits (I don’t know about knowledge per se) will override yours, presumably because you have a whole sector that is basically alien. Contrast this with the idea of a mother language, the one you learn with your mother’s milk.

[ulli]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
The most important thing a society can do for it's future is educate the women.
Women are the first educators of the next generation. Kids spend the first couple of years of their lives in frustration due to their limited communication ability, so by the time they can finally form sentences they mostly begin with why, where, when, etc.
And their uneducated mothers often have no clue how to respond to this bombardment of questions as they themselves don't know the answers.
So they become abusive and want to keep their children at a permanent baby level, when such irritations did not exist.
Or they threaten them with lashes and beatings...and thus knock their natural curiosity and love for learning out of them, never allowing it to bloom.

Once when I was driving my son to school...he was five at the time, he asked me out of the blue:
"Mum, why is there nothing faster than the speed of light?"
And I had to say, son, let me think about that one...and I did, and came to the conclusion that thoughts might be faster, although it took a few more years. But I didn't ridicule him for asking that question...in fact, I might have old one it wi the "question everything!" motto, because he has taken that one to heart, and now he drives me nuts.
I can't even say what a nice day we are having without him responding with "are we really?"

The usual answer to this sort of question would be, 'Ask your Dad'. The trouble being Dad's not here, or that man you're living with is not my Dad... In other words, there is a sore lack of male presence in too many households, and this has been going on for a couple of generations now. I'm sure parents are generally doing a wonderful job bringing up other people's kids, but I can't help feeling something is being lost, possibly in terms almost of physical compatibility. I am thinking of the heart brain, the stomach brain, things like that, or maybe it has something to do with DNA. When you get an organ transplant, often some of the donor’s tastes or character traits (I don’t know about knowledge per se) will override yours, presumably because you have a whole sector that is basically alien. Contrast this with the idea of a mother language, the one you learn with your mother’s milk.

Ask your Dad? The trouble is not so much Dad's absence as mum's ignorance.
Maybe if she was less ignorant Dad might have stayed around a bit longer.
Men need someone who understands them, and who they can talk to just as much as kids do.

Of course, if she is too intelligent it might make her guy feel inferior, and that's not a good thing either.

[Wind]

Posted by Carmody (here)
For example, most importantly, consider: If humans had, originally, +900 year lifespans..how would a 500 year old human..raise... a newborn?

This is a really interesting thing to ponder. I remember reading that a long, long time ago when humans had long life spans like that, people under 200 years were still considered to be "youngsters" and they still had a lot to learn. I find that to be somewhat ironic when human lifespans are totally different now and not many people will make it past 100 years. During the span of one incarnation we can learn a lot, but only if we are willing to educate ourselves.

Of course now thanks to the internet we can learn a lot in short time, if our brains are able to handle that kind of mind-blowing information. Not all are, it seems. I love new information, but I too take some time to digest it. My brain seems to be working hard all the time analyzing all the minor details. However, what I have learned so far is the fact that it is essential to combine our heart-based wisdom with the intelligence of our minds. Logic itself will not take us very far, as we have seen already.