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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    Why we all assume that the original virus is the one we will end up with is beyond me- this is bio warfare -make no mistake. Why do you think they are being so sloppy about boarder control? so they can blame it on the third world.

    What do you think all those coffins are for- tptw will up the virus to keep pace with their agenda- our only defence is to pre-empt their sick plans- disarm them with knowledge 50% mortality rate in the native African will translate to a higher percentage in the Caucasian population as we are all immune deficient/ aluminium strontium sprayed/Monsanto fed /sugar filled /meat eating sheep.

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    Texas and CDC says the Dallas (Frisco) deputy is testing NEGATIVE for Ebola - all clear for him..

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT
    Don't worry though, when the OP comes back he will flood the thread with "updates" and push all these comments out of most peoples view and we can get back to the fear fest.
    I personally think this is a manufactured crisis and rather quite real, killing more than just a few. there is more than enough evidence showing ebola is a real virus and more likely than not a bio-weapon created by a sick in the head agency, being used right now to cause chaos and fear. Most of the information Bob has posted basically backs up this "theory".

    With that being said, it is very obvious to me that it (ebola) is being exploited for several other possible agenda's too, most of us here know this basically beyond any doubt....."never let a good crisis go to waste".

    I don't think Bob is fear-mongering, he seems to be more a less posting every bit of information he can find on this subject. I personally think your recent comment is a cheap shot at him.
    Yes, I definitely agree that Ebola is very real and people have died from it for sure, this recent "outbreak" has very little evidence, and quite a bit of the evidence presented seems to not be genuine.

    As for the OP, one can update old posts (aka edit) and add new information to them with out constantly pushing out post after post, a troll tactic refereed to as "flooding" (not saying that is the case here, but the out come is the exact same thing). This continual "flooding" keeps this thread a lecture, not a discussion. A lecture can be done in one post with out "sweeping clear" the thread.

    I went back to the first page and told myself I would stop as soon as I found a page that contained less than half the posts from Bob, here's my results:

    Page# Posts from bob/total posts
    1: 11/20
    2: 15/20
    3: 15/20
    4: 11/20
    5: 13/20
    6: 12/20
    7: 18/20
    8: 14/20
    9: 13/20
    10: 16/20
    11: 15/20
    12: 16/20
    13: 17/20
    14: 15/20
    15: 13/20
    16: 13/20
    17: 15/20
    18: 13/20
    19: 9/20 ---- I stopped here.

    This is the clearest example of the "flooding" tactic I have ever seen, this should not be the way we discuss a potentially VERY SERIOUS topic like this.

    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    I do hear what you are saying though and this whole scenario does have a smell about it like Sandy Hook and what some other like events smelled like.
    It AT LEAST deserves discussion.

    Look the above comments do not come lightly from me, I am not one to (historically) say things like this; but I'm going to "call a spade a spade" at this point as I think it needs to be addressed (we shall see what happens when (yet another) of my posts are reported) I'm quite shocked that anything I have posted is "reported" honestly, but that's very very off topic.


    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Hopefully this will help.....(I wrote this earlier today)

    Quote Every one needs to pay attention to something....I got bored with johnny quest and speed racer many years ago and started to pay attention to more things that seemed more real. Today, these things that once seemed more real have become even more real but quite unreal at the same time.
    I have come to the conclusion that for some reason reality itself is becoming unreal, or appearing to be unreal, and things that are unreal are becoming or appearing to be real......
    In short, there is a massive amount of manipulation and deception going on, more than ever before.....and those that are noticing this are considered insane and confused and those that play along with it and make no sense are considered sane........thus the real is unreal and the unreal is real.....
    Confused yet????????????????????
    I wonder if it is more manipulation than before or we are finally capable of seeing that which has always been there?
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    Default Re: Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon?

    What does one do with large quantities of Ebola Waste in an Urban Situation?

    (Source)

    In the Texas situation, an experienced waste handler with incineration capability is used.

    Disposal of hazardous wastes, such as biologically contaminated which wasn't incinerated at the hospital for instance has to be transported in secure containers, handled properly and then incinerated properly at a sufficiently high temperature.

    "Contaminated household items from the Dallas man who died from Ebola virus exposure in West Africa will be destroyed at the Veolia Environmental Services incinerator in Port Arthur, its general manager said today.

    "Mitch Osborne said Veolia will accept the shipments of bagged and containerized items from the apartment of Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian man who recently had visited his Liberian home, contracted the virus and returned to Dallas before symptoms developed.

    "We are fully permitted for this," he said. "We believe this safely solves the problem for the material that's been stored in Dallas for the past week."

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    Biological Waste Handling

    The first steps are to protect oneself and others from splash contamination.

    The general rule of thumb is chlorine bleach is the recommended liquid spray, followed by alcohol in the case of biologicals that have been spilled or are otherwise on a surface.

    (from an earlier post from the Canadian public health service document describing the Ebola virus, and from a CDC document link here)

    Recognizing the Biosafety Levels

    Although this is a very simple learning exercise, and is written for a laboratory setting, it can easily be applied to a hospital setting, a personal care setting, or a first responder setting..

    This Quick Learn Lesson will take approximately 15 minutes to complete.

    When you have completed this lesson, you will be able to recognize characteristics of the four biological safety levels.

    In a minimal safety lab, these questions are often asked - the steps are IDENTIFY (we have said this frequently, identify, gather information, and understand what is happing -
    • Where in the lab would you complete your work? (where is exposure likely to happen)
    • What protective equipment and practices would you use? (how do you keep yourself safe)
    • How would you contain the microbe to limit contamination or accidental infection? (when a problem happens, being tired, or accident, what can you do, how do you do it?)

    Again very obvious steps that should become routine - let say you are a health care worker and your work area is a hazard zone you were called into as a first responder. Do you know what to look for, do you have the safety plan?

    A survey of hospital nurses recently conducted came back with the nurses' observations that they DID NOT KNOW what exactly to do, that they had general infection control practices ideas, for non-lethal types of biohazards, but didn't have a firm working understanding of how to deal with a Hemorrhagic fever virus. (i.e. Ebola in this particular instance)

    Each level has specific controls for containment of microbes and biological agents. The primary risks that determine levels of containment are infectivity, severity of disease, transmissibility, and the nature of the work conducted. Origin of the microbe, or the agent in question, and the route of exposure are also important.

    Each biosafety level has its own specific containment controls that are required for the following:

    Laboratory practices
    Safety equipment
    Facility construction



    The biosafety levels range from BSL-1 to BSL-4.
    Each biosafety level builds on the controls of the level before it. Every microbiology laboratory, regardless of biosafety level, follows standard microbiological practices.

    If you work in a lab that is designated a BSL-1, the microbes there are not known to consistently cause disease in healthy adults and present minimal potential hazard to laboratorians and the environment. An example of a microbe that is typically worked with at a BSL-1 is a nonpathogenic strain of E. coli.

    Specific considerations for a BSL-1 laboratory include the following:

    Laboratory practices

    Standard microbiological practices are followed.
    Work can be performed on an open lab bench or table
    (lab coats, gloves, eye protection) are worn as needed.

    Facility construction

    A sink must be available for hand washing.
    The lab should have doors to separate the working space with the rest of the facility. Pretty simple, but never-the-less, not to be taken for granted.

    BSL-2 builds upon BSL-1.
    If you work in a lab that is designated a BSL-2, the microbes there pose moderate hazards to laboratorians and the environment. The microbes are typically indigenous and associated with diseases of varying severity. An example of a microbe that is typically worked with at a BSL-2 laboratory is Staphylococcus aureus.

    Getting a Staph infection like from MERSA could be really tragic though, tissue eating staph has resulted in limbs being amputated.. So the caution levels are higher, to avoid exposure.. Let's put this in VERY CLEAR perspective, MERSA potential, loosing limbs and dying from a body infections slowly eating away at the limbs, skin is considered ONLY LEVEL 2 !! Think about that for a minute how the protective levels are setup, if this is only LEVEL 2 what are the others all about?

    The main safety difference in a LEVEL two facility with level 2 grade infectious agents is
    • All procedures that can cause infection from aerosols or splashes are performed within a biological safety cabinet (BSC)B.
    • An autoclave or an alternative method of decontamination is available for proper disposals.

    Notice how this is setup to prevent splashes on the body, eyes, etc.

    BSL-3 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-2
    .

    If you work in a lab that is designated BSL-3,
    the microbes there can be either indigenous or exotic, and they can cause serious or potentially lethal disease through respiratory transmission.
    Respiratory transmission is the inhalation route of exposure.

    One example of a microbe that is typically worked with in a BSL-3 laboratory is Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the bacteria that causes tuberculosis.

    Laboratory practices

    Laboratorians are under medical surveillance and might receive immunizations for microbes they work with.
    Access to the laboratory is restricted and controlled at all times.

    Safety equipment
    • Appropriate PPE must be worn, and respirators might be requiredA.
    • All work with microbes must be performed within an appropriate BSCB.


    BSL-4 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-3 and is the highest level of biological safety.

    There are a small number of BSL-4 labs in the United States and around the world.

    There is a very important reason for this.

    The microbes in a BSL-4 lab are dangerous and exotic, posing a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections.

    Infections caused by these microbes are frequently fatal and without treatment or vaccines.

    Two examples of microbes worked with in a BSL-4 laboratory include Ebola and Marburg viruses.

    In addition to BSL-3 considerations, BSL-4 laboratories have the following containment requirements:

    Laboratory practices
    • Change clothing before entering.
    • Shower upon exiting.
    • Decontaminate all materials before exiting.

    Safety equipment

    All work with the microbe must be performed within an appropriate Class III BSC , or by wearing a full body, air-supplied, positive pressure A suit.



    THIS IS WHAT MUST BE USED TO DEAL SAFELY WITH EBOLA AND MARBURG

    Ignoring, poo-pooing discounting, the nature of pathogens is a dis-service to people who need to know how to prepare safely, perform safely and not risk contamination of themselves and others, or the environment.

    Click this link: http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/ for the above source page to this material in the safety exercise.
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    Here is Flash writing: I am sorry Target, I thanked you with Mini Flash cause i stole her computer lol (my daughter's). I thank the that you said this topic should be discussed seriously and that we are more capable of seeing that which has always been there.

    However, I am also very aware that nurses are reading Avalon, reporters are reading Avalon and these threads on Ebola, and a general public as well. I am very aware that Bob does not read only for Avalon members but for specific targets as well such as the medical personnel and reporters. He is also an expert in the biomedical fields, expert to be trusted. Few of them around.

    So anything he does has my full support and i do not take as flooding in anyways, but rather as wanting to help a specific subset of the population to start with, in the medical field, then a larger subset, that is us, and mostly to have the reporters report the truth for once.

    Also, I am more and more convinced that the target is the USA and the developed world. I was reading the excellent and extremely well explained thread on financial fraud from the 6 major American banks, to big to fail, and some British ones, and the Libor and other pending fraud examinations that are yet larger than libor coming out, where bankers and banks get out from court scotch free. While cities and govenrments are directly put into debts because of these frauds. This is describing the destruction of the rule of law, throughout the whole system, the rule of law that has built the western world.

    Therefore, I think that Ebola and financial frauds are linked. It is appalling how Ebola is taken care of, how little is done to combat it in Africa and how slow the response is. The countries effected should have been closed down with all the western help necessary to feed its people through air in the meantime and the adequate medical response. But i bet that this kind of militaristic approach will be reserved for the Western world, once the virus is widespread. It will also serve to deflect attention from the side parallel civilisation that has developed within the dark projects and dark monies environments and that is ready to take off without us (a last blast of money coming their way is needed, therefore the relentless frauds).

    Am I nut to think that way? I do not think so anymore.

    Do we have to react? of course we should - and the reporter should tooo, their kids life is at stake as well.

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    Would it be wise to assume that agencies will advertise a vaccine to help combat Ebola ? would it be wise to avoid such a vaccine ? ...

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    Personally I thank Bob for all his efforts we are lucky to have his contributions, like he said it is a problem to get rid of Ebola effluent, now what a practical person he is invaluable gentleman with no other agenda than to help clear up s... as it presents it'self. I for one appreciate him hugely.

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    We must also remember that almost every event especially since 911 is like swiss cheese (full of holes). Which makes this chunk of cheese necessary to be examined thoroughly from every angle possible.

    Also we all here know how sick these bastards are and what they are capable of; much in this thread points to bio-weapon and now that this is coming to the US we have : sick bastards + bio-weapon = YIKES!!!!!

    This thread is basically a historical document from March with most of the posts posted by BOB...a lecture? perhaps......
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    Would it be wise to assume that agencies will advertise a vaccine to help combat Ebola ? would it be wise to avoid such a vaccine ? ...

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    I think that's an excellent question - that they will want that viral protein inside the body. Claiming that is the only way an anti-body can be created by the natural killer cells to go after that protein.. BUT think about this..

    What we have seen, posted earlier, is the EBOLA, or more specifically some of the protein sequences of the Filoviri, (string like viruses), are incorporated in the dna of some primates, not expressed just yet, but those signatures exist - think genes as "energetic signatures".

    I asked this question, would having "alien" dna (irregular other genome source), or RNA, or other genes that don't normally DO anything, i.e. some have called "junk" dna to mean anything in the over all scheme of things? If for instance a replication error happens, and some of the "junk dna" is brought into being reproduced, what does that lead to? One becoming weaker/stronger, more prone, or less to a particular sickness, a poorly weakened species? IF it didn't kill the organism and was able to be reproduced into subsequent progeny, (kids), what will they be carrying from there on? Is there a genetic experimentation happening by the virus itself (i.e. the "natural" question in the OP).

    I don't like this virus stuff especially with ebola or marburg proteins being incorporated in human cells.. Already it may be present in different groups of people, as I said, I haven't yet done a study, but just to locate data saying that filoviruses are incorporated in some part in the cells and being reproduced...

    SO will we become more hypersensitized and that our own immune system will start attacking these junk dna sequences, especially with the EBOLA and MARBUG proteins in our own DNA?

    THAT worries me a LOT and I BET none of those vaccine makers have looked at the "JUNK" dna to see if the bug they are trying to make us "immune to", would not only create an attack on ebola or marburg, it could start a massive autoimmune disease in who receives that VACCINE...

    I personally would advocate anti-viral prophylactic molecules which don't damage the kidneys. IN a few threads we have listed substances which are able to function as antivirals that help other issues in the human. Generally a win situation while dealing with Ebola (non-vaccine).
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    I also would like to thank Bob for all of the valuable information that he has been providing with this post, and in no way flooding the thread or fear mongering. Information is a good thing to share, the more people informed the better. Whether a false flag, people using the crisis for other agendas, etc. we still need to be aware that this is a very nasty virus and possibly militarized. The nurse infected here in Spain, after testing positive twice with ebola, was transported from one hospital to another in an ambulence which continued in sevice for 15 hours longer after transporting her before being disinfected...

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    what about Ebola's immunity to oxygen rich enviroments ? would oxygen therapy be beneficial as a deterant or part tandem cure ?

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    Time to use this sort of screening at airports worldwide for early detection of Ebola patients, they could also sweep the aircraft before each flight for flight staff health and safety concerns.

    Medical detection dogs: how they could save our lives in a sniff

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/269099.php

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bdnZ9G9jojc
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    Here is Flash writing: I am sorry Target, I thanked you with Mini Flash cause i stole her computer lol (my daughter's). I thank the that you said this topic should be discussed seriously and that we are more capable of seeing that which has always been there.

    However, I am also very aware that nurses are reading Avalon, reporters are reading Avalon and these threads on Ebola, and a general public as well. I am very aware that Bob does not read only for Avalon members but for specific targets as well such as the medical personnel and reporters.
    Yes, I also write for a larger audience, which sometimes can cause confusion when I reply to a person but direct my thought to the "greater" audience; this is a public forum and every post should be viewed from a public perspective as it is created. So I can see how it's possible that he is simply aggregating information into one spot for others to view, I simply take issue with the method, not necessarily the action.

    Part of the problem is Bob is doing very little discussing, and a lot of cut'n pasting, the title of this thread is posed as a question, which infers discussion... perhaps the title of the thread should be changed to "EBOLA AGGREGATION THREAD" or "LEARN ABOUT WHAT NEWS AGENCIES REPORT ON EBOLA" or some similar lecture inference.

    Quote Posted by Mini Flash (here)
    He is also an expert in the biomedical fields, expert to be trusted. Few of them around.

    So anything he does has my full support and i do not take as flooding in anyways, but rather as wanting to help a specific subset of the population to start with, in the medical field, then a larger subset, that is us, and mostly to have the reporters report the truth for once.
    I personally would be very careful with statements like this, this type of thinking is called "appeal to authority" (one of the top Logical Fallacies). We all have access to google and with a bit of work anyone can sound like an expert in any field, I have had people ask if I'm involved in the nuclear field due to some of my past posts on things I have simply spent time understanding via google.

    Quote Posted by Mini Flash (here)
    Also, I am more and more convinced that the target is the USA and the developed world. I was reading the excellent and extremely well explained thread on financial fraud from the 6 major American banks, to big to fail, and some British ones, and the Libor and other pending fraud examinations that are yet larger than libor coming out, where bankers and banks get out from court scotch free. While cities and govenrments are directly put into debts because of these frauds. This is describing the destruction of the rule of law, throughout the whole system, the rule of law that has built the western world.
    yes, a bit off topic but the above does seem to fit in with the coming (planned) power shift from the West (USA) to the East (CHINA).

    Quote Posted by Mini Flash (here)
    Therefore, I think that Ebola and financial frauds are linked. It is appalling how Ebola is taken care of, how little is done to combat it in Africa and how slow the response is. The countries effected should have been closed down with all the western help necessary to feed its people through air in the meantime and the adequate medical response.
    That would be RATHER hard to do if there is no outbreak "epidemic" of ebola in those countries and the majority of this is a manufactured "fluff" piece.... this is discussion worthy as too many things "dont add up" right now.

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    But i bet that this kind of militaristic approach will be reserved for the Western world, once the virus is widespread. It will also serve to deflect attention from the side parallel civilisation that has developed within the dark projects and dark monies environments and that is ready to take off without us (a last blast of money coming their way is needed, therefore the relentless frauds).

    Am I nut to think that way? I do not think so anymore.

    Do we have to react? of course we should - and the reporter should tooo, their kids life is at stake as well.
    These could be tied into it, definitely. I do believe this "ebola" topic is being used as a screen, but on a much less over arching scale as you surmise (you see you are speaking with the belief that the ebola break out is exactly as we are told it is, when has that EVER been the case? it is either MUCH WORSE or MUCH LESS than we are told; hardly ever is any topic reported with out exaggerating or suppressing... as it's been said before the tactics of the MSM (almost every source that the OP has posted falls neatly into this category) distracting from LIBOR (a 350 TRILLION DOLLAR scandal) is actually a perfect use for this level of MSM theater.

    Quote Posted by Matisse (here)
    The nurse infected here in Spain, after testing positive twice with ebola, was transported from one hospital to another in an ambulence which continued in sevice for 15 hours longer after transporting her before being disinfected...
    An alternate way to view the spain incident is:
    A single case being leveraged for fear, what better way to "sell" a fluff piece, much like the case in Texas here in the US.

    Strange protocol was followed, people read the stories and think "What were they thinking releasing him from the hospital while he is so sick" or with the Nurse there are similar issues with the story.

    When things don't add up and cause a "wtf" moment, you NEED to examine them further and not just from the idea you are committed to, look at ALL angles objectively or you are doing your self and anyone you communicate with a disservice.

    Too many things are adding up to a question mark right now.... to NOT follow the questions to a satisfying conclusion is a mistake.
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    Time to use this sort of screening at airports worldwide for early detection of Ebola patients, they could also sweep the aircraft before each flight for flight staff health and safety concerns.

    Medical detection dogs: how they could save our lives in a sniff

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/269099.php

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bdnZ9G9jojc
    THAT is the best suggestion I have heard yet for the screening - VERY WELL DONE !!

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    Thanks for the positive thoughts Matisse, i think information suppression is one of the big issues. Not knowing the background, one is stuck having to listen to "authority" and have to trust. Who we trust then is part of the "drama" happening, who can "convince us" to watch their show. I happen to trust our forum's Founder Bill Ryan, and I do my own research, and if I find something that is useful I will make it available. That's just me. I care about helping with education.

    I see that the nurse has been taking a bit of a down turn, and the two doctors treating her are now are being watched.

    "The deterioration in the nurse’s condition came as the authorities announced that one more health care worker had been quarantined, in addition to three others who were isolated overnight at the same hospital where the nurse works. 80 others are being watched. Seven people are now quarantined at the Madrid hospital, Carlos III, that Spain has designated to handle Ebola cases.

    Is that similar to the data you are hearing where you are?

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    Thanks for the positive thoughts Matisse, i think information suppression is one of the big issues. Not knowing the background, one is stuck having to listen to "authority" and have to trust. Who we trust then is part of the "drama" happening, who can "convince us" to watch their show. I happen to trust our forum's Founder Bill Ryan, and I do my own research, and if I find something that is useful I will make it available. That's just me. I care about helping with education.

    I see that the nurse has been taking a bit of a down turn, and the two doctors treating her are now are being watched.

    "The deterioration in the nurse’s condition came as the authorities announced that one more health care worker had been quarantined, in addition to three others who were isolated overnight at the same hospital where the nurse works. 80 others are being
    watched. Seven people are now quarantined at the Madrid hospital, Carlos III, that Spain has designated to handle Ebola cases.

    Is that similar to the data you are hearing where you are?


    Yes she now is in a very critical state, they aren,t saying much more because she has specificaly asked that any specific news remain private. Now there are 8 people under quarantine, another nurse has just checked in... and yes some 80 people under observation. They have sacrificed her dog, her house has been disinfected and sealed, the beauty parlor where she had her legs waxed is closed and the 2 girls working there are under observation. The government has admited they have made many mistakes with protocol, there is quite a long list....

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    Quote Posted by Naniu (here)
    what about Ebola's immunity to oxygen rich environments ? would oxygen therapy be beneficial as a deterant or part tandem cure ?

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    I've been looking into this since you posted.. HYPERBARIC chambers quite possibly would be good for dealing with the issues in the hospital secondary infection, such as what I think they were saying was the primary cause of infection remaining in Mr. Duncan (the person with Ebola who died in Dallas this week).. So I think it is a VERY good suggestion to look into that.

    This is why I feel oxygen under the right pressure/saturation or method to get it into the cell would be useful (I will describe with background, and what I consider "dot connecting" :

    A quick understanding of how some of the anti-virals work. If you think of a viral engine like a crystal growing with some AI smarts built in, it can take substances as building blocks from healthy cells, and change those cells protein production mechanisms into virus producing structures.. something that defeats the normal reproductive dna for the cell's instructions, and says, nope YOU ARE HIJACKED and will now follow new instructions.. AND it starts doing that switching off, protection, then switching off any mechanism that is not useful to the virus replication..

    To sabotage the virus engine formation, folks have looked at stopping entry at the cell surface, making that surface impenetrable to the viral nano-particles.. OR if the virus has entered, to have the virus get STUCK on the surface of the cell.

    The cell at that point basically is going to die, and there are mechanisms called apoptosis mechanisms (programmed sequences to turn on cell death, these monitor for aberration in the normal cell respiration (getting food, water in and wastes out of the cell, etc.).. so the virus would be terminated by the apoptosis program which is in the gene codes..

    Another method which is most effective is to use something done in making epoxy plastic of all things. A polymerization process is something the virus uses to sabotage the genes, in the cell, but the virus can be sabotaged also..

    There is a set of chemicals called pyrimidines.. I don't need to use this thread to get into the science of genetic splicing, or molecular modulation, or gene transfection as interesting as that may sound, I am wishing for this thread to be more educational about the nature of these infections, - so just to keep it simple to understand, as an analogy, the "agent" used to make an epoxy get hard, the "hardener" that could be chosen, starts a polymerization specifically ONLY of key parts of the virus molecule (bypassing the human dna), and stops it reproducing (visualise like how the hardener for epoxies works..) There are a set of those substances described very briefly in this thread and others, but if there is interest we could start a new thread specifically dealing with the molecular modification methods..

    Oxygen is one of those substances which can induce that catalytic polymerization by peroxides - typically these have a metal component tied onto them for more activity - TIN is generally used with the peroxide.. (hint hint)

    So yes, a proper type of oxygen would be useful, and if it were hyperbarically allowed to saturate, it could very well do what's needed.. It would have to saturate the tissues I would believe, here is a pix of a hyperbaric chamber.. Would a hospital do that? in my experience it is amazing that they admitted Mr Duncan at all.. They are just not adequately prepared as the nurses have said, and obviously the issues in Spain with the doctors complaining that they couldn't get even a proper sized protection suit to be able to work on her is saying a lot too about lack of preparedness. Why are they unprepared, have they been told there is "nothing to see here?" alluding that the virus is not worrisome? Haven't seen the official CDC and Canadian health agency publications about how to deal with the virus, and treat it ONLY in Class 4 biosafety facilities??

    That to me is what is worrisome, the lack of safety. I would rather see safety and err'ing on the side of caution, in our world than seeing what happened and continues to happen when lack of education when lack of information, when mis-information is spread around as is happening in Africa's western countries hosting the current outbreak. It is NOT burning itself out.

    Cancer.org has a discussion of hyperbaric oxygen therapy: http://www.cancer.org/treatment/trea...oxygen-therapy


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    I think we are about to become exposed, to "something', probably not even Ebola, through chemtrails. These are sprayed daily and most people do not even believe this exists. So, adding a killer virus, like Ebola, would be a very easy and effective way to kill a large portion of the population.

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    Quote Posted by Matisse (here)
    The nurse infected here in Spain, after testing positive twice with ebola, was transported from one hospital to another in an ambulence which continued in sevice for 15 hours longer after transporting her before being disinfected...
    An alternate way to view the spain incident is:
    A single case being leveraged for fear, what better way to "sell" a fluff piece, much like the case in Texas here in the US.

    Strange protocol was followed, people read the stories and think "What were they thinking releasing him from the hospital while he is so sick" or with the Nurse there are similar issues with the story.

    When things don't add up and cause a "wtf" moment, you NEED to examine them further and not just from the idea you are committed to, look at ALL angles objectively or you are doing your self and anyone you communicate with a disservice.

    Too many things are adding up to a question mark right now.... to NOT follow the questions to a satisfying conclusion is a mistake.


    This is my point, the suspicious lack of protocol, and the MSM keep hamerering how this is virus is so dificult to transmit and there is no problem, these things have raised my question mark...
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    Illuminati Ebola Virus:
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    • Have you seen what's on the ((Georgia Guidestones))
    • Planned a Long-Long time ago
    • Modified 'Ebola Strain' with 'Cure' for 'Those in the Know'
    • Big PHARMA set to make $Billions through sheer GREED
    • Set-Off to Coincide with all the other ((Mayhem))
    • Pre-Planned Depopulation of AFRICA
    • Ect, etc...
    The NWO ((WANKERS)) are becoming all so ((OBVIOUS)) these days which will ultimately lead to the ((Undoing))...
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