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    Soul is Source... the very life force within. Source is the glue that holds an Atom together. Take out the Source and the Atom will fall apart. Take the Source or the Soul out... and the body will fall apart. Dead as a door nail. cc.

    We also have an Astral Body... that we can use to travel outside of the Physical Body. Soul stays with the body. You cannot remove the Soul from the body without death.
    So are you saying that the Soul is strictly tied to the physical/material world and that it is what makes all matter solid? So essentially, the "god particle" that science is looking for is actually a Soul component that is in all physical matter? Is this correct Sirdipswitch?

    Quote Consciousness goes with the Astral, sub-conscious stays to maintain the physical body. When we go out of body Astrally, there will be a cord attatched between the two. Nope, ya can't break it, or get it tangled with stuff. And will always reel you right back to body like an extension cord. cc.

    We also have a Spirit. An Immortal Spirit, that resides within each of us. It travels with the Astral, when we go out of body, in order to protech us from harm. If something should "bother" our physical body, it will jerk us back to it. We may also separate our Spirit... without our Astral form. Your Astral form will then be able to "animate' your physical body, to do whatever you wish to do, with your Spirit off playing somewhere else. Fun to do in grocery store. You can step out in spirit to go find something, while your body is still headed over to the Ice Cream cooler. chuckle chuckle.

    This ain't rocket science folks. It has just been so complicated, over so many thousands of years by so many religions that it just boggles the mind. The whole purpose of religeon is to keep us confused and easier to control, so that we never learn who... or "what" we really are.

    This body... is NOT... who we are. This body, is just a suit that we wear, to have "this" physical experience. We are Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order... and NOTHING can harm us. And THIS, is what "religions" are trying desparately to keep from us. TPTB, (YES BE. not were.) do NOT want us to know "what" we really are! And those who try to tell you differently... do NOT have your best interests at heart. nope. don't.

    We are FAR more than "Lucy"... could even imagine. yep. uh-huh. are. ccc.
    Great explanation Sirdipswitch. Thanks for sharing your KNOWLEDGE.

    Seeker/Reader


    With Source being the glue holding an Atom together, yes... Source makes everything solid. Because Source is in every single Atiom, of everything that exists, everything that exists... is Source. Plus, not knowing this, we don't tend to think... that everything we touch... everything... Source knows it. yep. Kiss someone... Source gets all warm and fuzzy, just as you do when you do it. Slug someone and Source feels their pain just as they do. Blow something up and Source feels the pain of that also. hmm. Source IS the Universe. Without Source nothing would exist.

    Source? I borrowed the name from the Tibetan Buddas, that call it The Ever Unknowable Source Of All Creation. I just shortened it a bit. I don't like the term God, because it's just a man made name, that explains nothing about it. And yes, since Source is all that is, the Universe is also "solid", and not a hologram, as some try to make us believe. Ain't nothin inside me as just an illusion, it's all out there and just as solid as this rock we live on. The folks who claim that, just don't understand Source. Fact is, they don't understand much. cc.
    Source is also just a man made name that tells you absolutely nothing about the true nature of it.
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    Source is also just a man made name that tells you absolutely nothing about the true nature of it. What's the difference if its called god or source?
    To me source is just the source of us. For all we know the source of souls could be a spiritual plane tied to all life that automatically generates a new soul in small lifeforms. God implies a conscious being, which I personally think is a false concept. I can use the word source to explain my beliefs. However I cannot use the word God for such.

    To me the creator is nature. Nature is source.
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    Default Re: What is the Difference Between the Soul and Spirit?

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    Source is also just a man made name that tells you absolutely nothing about the true nature of it. What's the difference if its called god or source?
    To me source is just the source of us. For all we know the source of souls could be a spiritual plane tied to all life that automatically generates a new soul in small lifeforms. God implies a conscious being, which I personally think is a false concept. I can use the word source to explain my beliefs. However I cannot use the word God for such.

    To me the creator is nature. Nature is source.
    Source could then just as well imply consciousness.

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    Default Re: What is the Difference Between the Soul and Spirit?

    From my current spot it looks as if it is all man-made... that's why sometimes people don't talk about that which they only destroy when talking about it.
    'if you name me you negate me'

    Otherwise, yes, there are those well versed in manipulating the invisible to create confusion in one's life. Speaking from personal experience. But, as it is sometimes said, the truth comes out. Eventually.



    PS. NOTHING comes out of nothing just like that, automatically generated, but rather SOMETHING spends time in and out of different states.
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    PS. NOTHING comes out of nothing just like that, automatically generated, but rather SOMETHING spends time in and out of different states.
    It wouldn't be nothing. It would be a spiritual field of energy that composes the soul in that theory. A self sustained and self generating universe, that does not require any creator...

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    Default Re: What is the Difference Between the Soul and Spirit?

    The tao that can be told
    is not the eternal Tao
    The name that can be named
    is not the eternal Name.

    The unnamable is the eternally real.
    Naming is the origin
    of all particular things.

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    The GLUE that holds everything together has a consciousness component, and also a physical component, attraction, also known in the current spiritual stage as the 'ever lasting all encompassing LOVE', and known also as a magnetic force, residing as one of the components of the wave of light=god=consciousness, etc. nice modern spiritual man-made words.
    The wholly trinity,
    electrical and also male,
    magnetic and also female
    and consciousness, also the god particle.

    Now, father, can I go home because it's getting too cold in the winter here.

    LOVE
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    Omniverse, I only wanted to point that perhaps it is a wise decision to think of our world as one of constructive rather than of a destructive play.
    A soul at any stage of development can only go upward/forward, following the wave of the spiral, and not backwards, or being transformed to smaller 'souls'.
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    It is quite interesting the feeling I am getting right now.

    ...

    ... imagining soul growth.
    rather interesting. and somehow a bit sad.
    like the saying 'darkness, enter me'.

    ((by their fruits you shall know them))
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    Omniverse, I only wanted to point that perhaps it is a wise decision to think of our world as one of constructive rather than of a destructive play.
    A soul at any stage of development can only go upward/forward, following the wave of the spiral, and not backwards, or being transformed to smaller 'souls'.
    I think you misinterpret what I was saying. I mean a plane of spiritual energy connected to all life, that automatically generates a new soul upon life being conceived if a soul is not already involved in such. I guess it could happen even for humans. But I tend to think the process for souls is starting out incarnating as things like insects and such, and moving up through the animal kingdom and learning existence enough to incarnate as one of the apex's, humanoids. Once humanoid is reached it's about mastering existence in my philosophy.

    I didn't say anything that implies devolution of the soul, or souls getting smaller. Nor anything that implies i see the world as a destructive play. Maybe I misinterpret you as well though...


    Quote ... imagining soul growth.
    rather interesting. and somehow a bit sad.
    like the saying 'darkness, enter me'.
    I'm not sure how you could figure "darkness, enter me" from soulular growth. O.o Care to elaborate?

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    Oh, no, I totally got you.

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    The diamond is the soul and the circle is the heart ,
    the circle within the diamond is the heart and soul in divine union

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