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    Default Re: Good News! Salt Water Powered Car Gets European Approval

    Quote Posted by DarMar (here)
    To make such car you ned lot of oil to produce plastic parts for it,
    tires needs also oil,
    carpaint is made of oil,
    machine cannot be lubricated with salt water, same as brakes.
    For transporting those you waste lot of oil also.
    You cannot make even carseat in serial car production without wasting tons of oil.

    Well it is no perfect, definetly consumes less than before, but i think it is far from pushing out any oil company out of game.
    It will just make oil more expensive and controlable, and bring new thing into game, a priced salty water :D
    with special lubricated nano bla bla something crystals for special care of your car!

    it is same but to wnt it more than before .. they are good at it, really good...
    Good points, DarMar.

    Of course, we also already have the (mostly suppressed) technology of using hemp oil to create the plastics and paints and lubricants (though I'm not sure about high-temperature lubricants.) Hemp fiber could be in the hemp-oil plastics to add strength and resiliancy (Henry Ford already did it, as has Motive Industries in their Kestral car), and could be woven into fabric or carpeting too. I had not heard about anyone coming up with a "green", petroleum-oil-free tire (or "tyre" for my British friends), but a quick search finds 80% petroleum-free tires made from orange oil (which I suspect hemp oil could substitute), and the rest of the car's non-metallic parts could be made from cannabis/hemp.

    And yeah, Nick, it would have been a lot better if they said they were "inspired by the ocean" rather than saying "salt water", which is definitely misleading.

    I don't know what manufacturing steps are necessary to make the ionic/electrolytic liquids, how "green" it is, how long it lasts before needing to be exchanged (or more metallic salts added)...but this electric vehicle does make its own electricity, which is certainly a step-up from electric cars with batteries which are recharged by plugging-in and ultimately getting their electricity from burning coal or nuclear fuel. Similarly with the Tata Motors (India) car that runs on compressed air - the compressors are using fossil fuels as the ultimate source of power.

    I don't need a 900 horse-power car. I don't need a car that can go over 200mph. I hope this is actually breakthrough technology that will be scaled down in price to that of typical vehicle costs, and that the manufacturing methods employed are truly environmentally sound. (Until we get Free Energy, we will be mining metals on Earth, not on asteroids, so the environmental factors there need to be taken into account as well - but every car on the road uses metals, so the mining of metals should not be a factor for ruling out cars with this new technology.)

    Finally, I see this as a social consciousness expanding opportunity for humanity, to see that yes, there really could be a world without fossil fuels. This isn't the whole solution, but may break some people out of their boxed-in/status quo mindset. And a post script to my "finally" is that I personally need to find some real news that is uplifting - there is so much news that isn't.

    Dennis

    DeDukshyn posted while I was writing, and I agree completely. :~)
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    Default Re: Good News! Salt Water Powered Car Gets European Approval

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    http://www.intelligentliving.co/salt...pean-approval/

    A car which uses an electrolyte flow cell power system is now certified for use on European roads. The car is called the Quant e-Sportlimousine, which made its debut at the 2014 Geneva Motor Show.

    Not only can this car run on salt water, but it is claimed that the car has peak power of 920 horsepower (680 kW), 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 2.8 seconds and a top speed of 217.5 mph (350 km/h).
    lets hope the mega corps don't buy em out and Sh!t can it like so many other energy free technologies.

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    Default Re: Good News! Salt Water Powered Car Gets European Approval

    Quote lets hope the mega corps don't buy em out and Sh!t can it like so many other energy free technologies.
    We've already ascertained in this thread that this is not an example of "free energy technology". It is a clever example of creative advertising. No mega corp is going to buy this out. If it was really using sea water it would not have got this far without the plans and project disappearing!

    As DL says above, we don't know what the energy or environmental costs are of manufacturing and transporting the two types of metallic salts that are combined in the "electrolyte flow cell power system" to make the electricity to move the car! I'm guessing they are significant or we'd be hearing a lot more about this car and its technology...

    Nick

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