The Difference between a Chemtrail & a Contrail

[Verdilac]

Hello to all reading this, let me just start by saying that am not an expert and that I am just drawing attention to an observation that I have made over the past few years.

The first picture in my opinion its a Contrail or 2, if you look closely, this picture was taken in quite a remote part of the Durham dales in the Northern UK ,it was around 5 degrees C & mid December.

I would like to draw you attention to the fact that this picture was taken over a almost completely unpopulated area. Notice no lingering trail.


The second 2 pictures were taken over a populated area very near Newcastle in the northern UK, similar weather, temperature at both locations, also the same time of the year

The picture above is the aftermath of 2 of the perpetrators of this abomination of the sky, they weren't solely responsible but played there part as they formed the horizontal trail, interestingly enough they didn't have a transponder signal between them


Now my pictures may not be very impressive but they show the point I'm trying to bring to attention.

As for the weather modification argument, that there spraying pollution/particles to stop atmospheric heating, well yes but why only do it over a populated area and why do it a 5C when were freezing, and unpopulated area stays untouched.

Other possible explanations, its not for weather modification like we have been lead to believe and may have hoped it was.( a lesser of evils)

This leaves us with a possibility that the spraying is being directed at some densely populated areas for other reasons, I don't know what these reasons are as I'm as in the dark as everyone else.

Whilst I have noticed the mention of nanoparticles being deployed by various people, they give no estimation of the size of particle so a 1st line of defence cannot be formulated to help stop respiratory infection or even filtering to cut down the amount of particles that is breathed to a level that the body may be able to deal with.

As someone that notices this spraying by un transpondered planes on a daily basis I am very worried for people in general as its very real and its happening now as we speak.

[Cidersomerset]

As I have said before 2006/7 was a major turning point in my interest in the
alternate community , I had been interested in mysterious and political historical
events from a young boy so when we got our first second hand old desk computer
and got access to the net , the first thing I put in was UFO's and I came across
Kerry interviewing Bill about Mr X and from there have got 'Deeeeep' down the
rabbit hole with millions of other like minded people around this world & others
...LOL

This also coincided with me becoming a post man in 2007 which meant I worked
outside everyday , previous to this I had office jobs. One of the many subjects
discussed was chemtrails a term I had not heard before and I started to look up
and straight away I noticed the difference in a contrail which last several seconds to
a minute or so, to chemtrails that spread out and lasted all day.




There is dispute to what they are from military, UV screen,geo engineering and
weather control over different areas of the globe, To its how the water vapour
reacts at different altitudes and temperature and the fact that air traffic has
increased in certain areas.

I was watching them yesterday sat 20/12/14 as I was on my rounds and the
weather was identical to the day before yet the trails were different Fri normal , sat
dense and spread out to give a milky cloud cover. I have seen the proof of
chemtrailing in this area over the last seven years regularly,with at time the sky
filled with Tankers creating grid patterns especially around 2011/12 , but not so
much lately, though the sky has been so cloudy at times its hard to say what is
natural cloud cover and what has artificially been laid by 'contrails' wether
deliberately or due to the fuel, temp and extra volume as we are told all it
is, whatever else it is causing air and light pollution at the very least.

Now I have put up lots of posts and threads on the subject,because it is happening
above my head and I see them most days. Now if I'm interpreting them wrong so
be it,but I'm not convinced of that and governments records of covert experiment
and black projects does not lead me to believe official denials. But if it can be
proved that they are just Alliminium, barium and other metallic particasl
mixed in with the water vapour from the engines fair enough.

But I'm not of that opinion at the moment....


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rail-Beta-Test


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Some images from the web, to illustrate what I'm observing over the past 7/8
years at various times , frequently enough to form a consistent pattern to this
phenomenon or programme .......















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What we are not seeing enough of is beautiful blue Somerset Sky's for whatever reason...


The Cornhill Bridgwater Town Centre



More often like this .........

[Verdilac]

I was looking at your pictures Cider and you have some great shots BTW, and a thought just occurred to me whilst looking at the trails that formed square patterns, what if part of the chemtrail system is ment for marking out a grid in the sky to test some sort of weapon or technology that is possibly fitted to a satellite.

For instance a mood altering frequency that is transmitted at the grid and because of the conductivity of the elements being used it acts as an antenna to amplify this frequency on a larger number of individuals, I'm not talking about a Haarp base station bouncing waves around , I'm talking about the new alternative that may be tiny in comparison ,like the way the record player made way for the tape and the tape for the ipod, then imagine each grid square could be adjusted and fine tuned to give a different behaviour pattern.

[ghostrider]

The information I've read about the application of weather modification is , they spray out in front of an approaching weather system , the trails spread out and form thin clouds ... they then bounce the harp radio frequency wave off of the thing clouds and tilt it as to steer it in the direction they want the weather to go ... they can enhance what's already there , snowstorm , rain , thunder etc ... Mixing chemicals into the spray they can produce as much rain as they want ... a contrail is not nearly as long as a chemtrail , and your right the contrail evaporates quickly , where the chemtrail remains all day , and three days later it rains where they sprayed ...

[Cidersomerset]

This is a new documentary posted on Davids site this morning which I'l post
but will put here as this is a current thread as well.....

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Chemtrails: The Secret War

new Monday 22nd December 2014 at 04:24 By David Icke



‘Antonio and Rosario Marciano, of the Italian website Tanker Enemy have produced an
outstanding documentary entitled: “ Chemtrails: the secret war ”. This film analyses
and provides scientific evidence pertaining to the chemtrails phenomenon.

Weather manipulation is only one (collateral) aspect of this phenomenon. What is at stake is a covert military agenda.’

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U-5VnMIiKPY

Published on 21 Dec 2014


“ This documentary is dedicated to everyone who wants to fight for truth and life on planet Earth.
Let's stand up and defend our rights ! " Antonio and Rosario Marciano
http://www.tanker-enemy.eu/scie-chimi...
Antonio and Rosario Marciano administrators of the Italian website TANKER ENEMY produced the
film : “ Chemtrails the secret war ”. This HD documentary film is the first Italian professional film
on illegal geo-engineering aka chemtrails. It has been realized thanks to many friends and
collaborators. For years this issue has been denied and mocked but the chemical spraying of our
sky is still going on !

This documentary analyses, in a scientific and rigorous approach the main characteristics of this issue.
The weather manipulation is only a collateral aspect of the phenomenon.

In September 2014, Jacques Daidié, a French activist, went to Italy and met Antonio and Rosario Marciano,
well-known Italian activists against geo-engineering. The French translation is born from this meeting and
has been realized by several members of the French association “Ciel voilé”, (www.cielvoile.fr). We thank
him warmly and all those who have contributed to the translation: Jacques, Dominique from Avignon,
Mary from Monteux, Sebastien from St Firmin in Valgaudemard and Danielle from Gap.
All our gratitude to “Sky Watch Geneva”, on Facebook, for the English translation.
www.cielvoile.fr

[Cidersomerset]

Default Re: Chemtrails: The Secret War.....Excellent Italian Documentry with subtitles , illustration etc.....21 Dec 2014

Sheme posted this on my thread and it surprised me the Beeb are
sterting to use the Geo -Engineering term. I copied the most recent
one below , confirms a lot of what is being said in the alternate
media only they are pretending its still on the concept phase....Yeh ..LOL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30197085

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24033772

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19371833

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19146256

For what ever reason it seems that our climate is warming up fast - among
the Aluminium Barium Strontium sprays soon we can expect sulphur dioxide
in the stratosphere of Earth - it seems every thing must be painted white to
reflect the Sun even our crops have been designed to make us carbon holders
(big and fat) and they too shall be white the cereal crops that is -are to be
chosen for the amount of solar radiation they reflect back. We must stop this
madness now and tell the people and the scientists what the truth is, No more
weapons of mutual destruction just free energy and and a total 'as you need
you receive society- plus Total Truth trust in humanity to do what is best for
the Earth Mother.

Find reference of any scientist from the above- then google that name and
you will find out what they plan and consider without our consent they are
all pushing papers out with dastardly ideas. Not one of them can agree on
anything- why not just tell us the absolute truth?

Thanks Sheme

I don't know how I missed these I look on the News web page nearly every day....

Well the BBC are Using the Geo Engineering term and aerosol spraying ( chemtrails )
although fail to say they have been doing it already for decades...



26 November 2014 Last updated at 01:12

Geo-engineering: Climate fixes 'could harm billions'David Shukman
By David Shukman

Science editor, BBC News




Using aerosols to block solar radiation represents one approach to geo-engineering

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Schemes to tackle climate change could prove disastrous for billions of people,
but might be required for the good of the planet, scientists say.

That is the conclusion of a new set of studies into what's become known
as geo-engineering.

This is the so far unproven science of intervening in the climate to bring
down temperatures.

These projects work by, for example, shading the Earth from the Sun or
soaking up carbon dioxide.

Ideas include aircraft spraying out sulphur particles at high altitude to
mimic the cooling effect of volcanoes or using artificial "trees" to absorb CO2.

Long regarded as the most bizarre of all solutions for global warming,
ideas for geo-engineering have come in for more scrutiny in recent
years as international efforts to limit carbon emissions have failed.

Now three combined research projects, led by teams from the universities
of Leeds, Bristol and Oxford, have explored the implications in more detail.

The central conclusion, according to Dr Matt Watson of Bristol University,
is that the issues surrounding geo-engineering - how it might work, the
effects it might have and the potential downsides - are "really really complicated".




Sun block




Volcano Injecting aerosols into the stratosphere mimics the cooling effects of volcanoes
"We don't like the idea but we're more convinced than ever that we have to research it," he said.

"Personally I find this stuff terrifying but we have to compare it to doing nothing,
to business-as-usual leading us to a world with a 4C rise."

The studies used computer models to simulate the possible implications of different
technologies - with a major focus on ideas for making the deserts, seas and clouds
more reflective so that incoming solar radiation does not reach the surface.

One simulation imagined sea-going vessels spraying dense plumes of particles into
the air to try to alter the clouds. But the model found that this would be far less
effective than once thought.

Another explored the option of injecting sulphate aerosols into the air above the
Arctic in an effort to reverse the decline of sea-ice.

A key finding was that none of the simulations managed to keep the world's
temperature at the level experienced between 1986-2005 - suggesting that
any effort would have to be maintained for years.

More alarming for the researchers were the potential implications for rainfall patterns.

Although all the simulations showed that blocking the Sun's rays - or solar radiation
management, as it is called - did reduce the global temperature, the models revealed
profound changes to precipitation including disrupting the Indian Monsoon.



Indian monsoon But blocking the Sun's rays could have undesirable effects, such
as disrupting the Indian Monsoon
Prof Piers Forster of Leeds University said: "We have found that between 1.2 and
4.1 billion people could be adversely affected by changes in rainfall patterns.

"The most striking example of a downside would be the complete drying-out of the
Sahel region of Africa - that would be very difficult to adapt to for those substantial
populations - and that happens across all the scenarios."

Despite the risk of catastrophic side-effects from geo-engineering, the study authors
believe that research should continue just in case runaway warming leaves no other options.

Prof Forster said: "If we were in a really desperate situation, trying to cool the temps
for a 10-20 year time period, there could be some merit in those circumstances in
introducing solar radiation management to give you a 10-20 year time period."

Lack of knowledge




Plankton bloom Dumping iron into the sea was seen as a way to stimulate plankton
blooms, and trap carbon
According to Prof Steve Rayner of Oxford University, it is easier to devise the technology
than to understand its effects or how its use should be governed.

"If you were just thinking of the capability of putting sulphate aerosols in the atmosphere,
that you could do in less than two decades - whether you would know it was smart to do
it in less than two decades is another question.

"We don't know enough - we have a few islands of knowledge in a sea of ignorance and it's
absolutely worth knowing more. There is the potential that some of these technologies may
be part of a broader tool kit of ways in which we can better manage climate change.

"People decry solar radiation management as a band-aid but band-aids can be useful for healing."

Geo-engineering has long been one of the most controversial aspects of the debate about
solutions to climate change and few experiments have been conducted in the field.

One of the largest, known as Lohafex, was an Indian-German experiment in 2009 which
involved dumping six tonnes of an iron solution into the South Atlantic to encourage
plankton to bloom - trapping carbon which would then be sent to the seabed when the
organisms died. Results showed limited success.

Another proposal for the trial flight of a balloon in Britain, as part of geo-engineering
research for the SPICE project, attracted stiff opposition from environmental groups
and was cancelled.

It would have been the precursor to a test of a technique for pumping sulphate aerosols
into the atmosphere in an effort to bounce solar radiation back into space and cool the planet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30197085