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    Quote Posted by Slorri (here)
    Oh, they certainly planned the demonstrations. Had there been no demonstrations they would have failed.
    Some neat logic there: no demonstrations = failure, demonstrations = success, huge demonstrations = huge success.

    I am not impressed. You forget things like sorcerer's apprentices, biting off more than you can chew, gremlins in machines.

    Also this: no demonstrations at all is equivalent to huge demonstrations: everyone doing the same thing. The advantage of the latter is in standing up and being counted: no pseudo-unanimity. You see the forces in presence, and the potential for growth.

    But of course, if all bases are covered, and we have no free will, you might as well go back to bed.

    Goodnight


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    Default Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting: eleven dead at Paris offices of satirical magazine


    Here it the interview with Gearóid Ó Colmáin in better quality.


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    Quote Posted by Slorri (here)
    Oh, they certainly planned the demonstrations. Had there been no demonstrations they would have failed.
    Some neat logic there: no demonstrations = failure, demonstrations = success, huge demonstrations = huge success.

    I am not impressed. You forget things like sorcerer's apprentices, biting off more than you can chew, gremlins in machines.

    Also this: no demonstrations at all is equivalent to huge demonstrations: everyone doing the same thing. The advantage of the latter is in standing up and being counted: no pseudo-unanimity. You see the forces in presence, and the potential for growth.

    But of course, if all bases are covered, and we have no free will, you might as well go back to bed.

    Goodnight
    Indeed.
    They call it a PSYOP.

    There is a need to trigger a reaction. This is the dark side of democracy.

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    another of those videos... what caught my attention with this one is the position of the policeman on the ground from one instant to the next: drastic change!

    So, now that you are front-loaded:


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    Quote Posted by Slorri (here)
    Oh, they certainly planned the demonstrations. Had there been no demonstrations they would have failed.
    Marching with the enemy.

    March for Unity: Over 40 world leaders, 'up to 3mn' rally in Paris against extremism

    The opportunity was created

    The legislative package to criminalize free speech on the internet that will arrive in 'response' to terror organized by nato / isis / mossad / cia / etc e tal is in your pocket.

    They will obtain the consent of the majority, including those who are marching for freedom of expression.

    The line between being or not being considered a terrorist every passing day will become narrower.



    But he 'forgot' (omitted) to say that he is also a puppet.

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    German Paper Firebombed After Publishing Charlie Hebdo Cartoons

    "Arsonists targeted a Hamburg, Germany newspaper that republished Charlie Hebdo cartoons early Sunday, damaging the paper’s archive but leaving no one injured.

    Police have arrested two men suspected of torching the building of the Hamburger Morgenpost after apprehending them near the scene of the crime, the Associated Press reports.

    A spokeswoman for the Hamburg police told the AP that a Molotov cocktail and several stones were found in the basement of the Morgenpost. She would not reveal any details about the suspects or what were the motives for the attack.

    Several other German outlets that also republished the cartoons are receiving police protection after the arson strike.

    The cartoons caricaturing Muhammad and other aspects of Islam angered many Muslims and are considered the impetus for the brutal terrorist attacks that struck Paris this week. After the deadly assault on the offices of Charlie Hebdo that killed 12 people, many outlets refused to republish the cartoons either because of security concerns or worries they would offend their audience." link

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    Let us wait and see - we are surely not all so gullible, the social media cannot be acquiesced. Loads of fakery, lots of investment to penalise those who 'go against' globalisitic corporatocracy (ok - the 'banksters'), and loads of staged nonsense that has happened many times before as per patterns to promote fear/pass unpopular laws for profit, and to diminish independent living/thought. Even now the honest investigators are being 'suicided'. Yet the MSM are still so popular, promulgating all this nonsense, the gullible public are so sick of fake 'reality' shows, they now believe this is reality! Double indemnity!
    Back to the BBC take on 'reality' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM
    Psy-ops madness! Just go and weed your garden, literally and metaphorically. I am tempted to bang the wittering 'ostrich-heads' together, but politeness is a forté.....

    Decorators coming tomorrow - again, but this time, no splattering allowed, tape off and tape up, and absolutely no messing with me - ever again. I am totally prepared. Will make loads of cups of tea and coffee however.... ;-)
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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    Let us wait and see - we are surely not all so gullible, the social media cannot be acquiesced. Loads of fakery, lots of investment to penalise those who 'go against' globalisitic corporatocracy (ok - the 'banksters'), and loads of staged nonsense that has happened many times before as per patterns to promote fear/pass unpopular laws for profit, and to diminish independent living/thought. Even now the honest investigators are being 'suicided'. Yet the MSM are still so popular, promulgating all this nonsense, the gullible public are so sick of fake 'reality' shows, they now believe this is reality! Double indemnity!
    Back to the BBC take on 'reality' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM
    Psy-ops madness! Just go and weed your garden, literally and metaphorically. I am tempted to bang the wittering 'ostrich-heads' together, but politeness is a forté.....

    Decorators coming tomorrow - again, but this time, no splattering allowed, tape off and tape up, and absolutely no messing with me - ever again. I am totally prepared. Will make loads of cups of tea and coffee however.... ;-)
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    Cartoons are an important medium for expressing problems with society, including religion...

    a picture says 1000 words, so here's my 6000 word message...








    Here at Avalon we enjoy the Freedom to speak our minds on any topic, no matter how politically incorrect...

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    French President's speech on National TV - "the illuminati are behind the Paris attacks“.

    On the 9th January French President François Hollande gave a live speech on national television about the recent terror attacks in Paris.

    An RT video - so take with a grain of salt - KE

    http://yournewswire.com/french-presi...paris-attacks/

    During his speech he says that “the illuminati are behind the Paris attacks“.

    Watch the speech and hear the President of France declare who are really behind the Paris terror attacks
    - See more at: http://yournewswire.com/french-presi....52p9b1Cy.dpuf

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    Quote Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
    They take us for idiots. This theater has more holes than Swiss cheese.

    From 4:50 the details of the spray can zoom.

    El Spray de CharlieHebdo BANDERA-FALSA NOM/FALSE-FLAG EXPUESTO/EXPOSED NWO


    Unbelievable .....

    As the the author video says: 'a simple spray may cause the mental conflicts that make us sick'.
    changing the color of curves and contrast image - spray can
    Click image for larger version

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    The origin of the smoke.

    Source: http://forum.antinovaordemmundial.co...t.php?aid=2925
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    French President's speech on National TV - "the illuminati are behind the Paris attacks“.

    On the 9th January French President François Hollande gave a live speech on national television about the recent terror attacks in Paris.

    An RT video - so take with a grain of salt - KE

    http://yournewswire.com/french-presi...paris-attacks/

    During his speech he says that “the illuminati are behind the Paris attacks“.

    Watch the speech and hear the President of France declare who are really behind the Paris terror attacks
    - See more at: http://yournewswire.com/french-presi....52p9b1Cy.dpuf
    The French President did not use the word Illuminati in his speech, but rather the word "illuminés", which in this case means individuals whose convictions and behavior are governed by irrational principles (most often of a religious nature) and which could roughly be translated to "crank" or "crackpot".

    His exact words in French: "Ceux qui ont commis ces actes—ces terroristes, ces illuminés, ces fanatiques—n'ont rien à voir avec la religion musulmane."

    Translation: Those who committed these acts—those terrorists, those cranks, those fanatics—do not have anything to do with (are not at all representative of) the Muslim religion.

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    BBC exposing the false flag? This is getting weirder. What is the agenda?

    Doubts raised over authenticity of Charlie Hebdo footage.
    January 11, 2015


    A video clip broadcast by news agencies across the world in relation to the recent events in Paris is now under scrutiny.



    Quote Whilst numerous theories have sprung up concerning this and other details, the general consensus among not just sceptics, but some major news agencies, is that the entire event was a ‘False Flag’ attack perpetrated by the CIA and/or Mossad in a “psy-ops” exercise to rouse hatred against Islam and support for what has been so far, a failing campaign in Iraq, Syria and the Middle East.
    More
    Source: http://bbc-news.co.uk/doubts-raised-...hebdo-footage/


    P.S.: As I edited this post including the question 'what is the agenda?' and saved, the main forum page for this topic showed 'Views: 6,066'.

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    Quote Posted by Slorri (here)
    Indeed.
    They call it a PSYOP.

    There is a need to trigger a reaction. This is the dark side of democracy.
    I don’t seem to be making myself very clear, so let me try again. There is also a ‘dark side’ to psyops, which could be called its light side. On this lighter side you again have a darker (serious) side and a lighter (not so serious) side.

    On the serious side, you have KiwiElf’s RT video in post #130. Why take it with a grain of salt? After all, it quotes François Hollande, who did actually use the word ‘illuminés’: the sound has not been tampered with, that’s for sure. The problem, if you are into conspiracies, is that the leader of a major western country like France should not be talking as if he were not bought and paid for by the Illuminati, along with the rest, but actually fighting them. If you have a problem with this, then I suggest that your scenario is too airtight. Maybe you don’t have a choice of politics in the US and the UK, and just maybe, in France we do? Why would anyone looking for a chink in the armour not want to explore that possibility?

    Part of the psyops campaign is intended to make us think that they control absolutely everything and that we have zero wiggle room: they do not, and we do have some leeway.

    It does not matter that few if anyone caught the subtlety of the word ‘illuminés’: French people all know what the word means in general parlance, just as any English dictionary, such as the New Penguin English Dictionary (the one to hand), defines ‘illuminati’ as ’1 people who claim to be unusually enlightened (…) 2 any of various groups claiming special religious enlightenment’. And, if they didn’t before, they certainly know now what such folk are capable of. Illumination is not something strictly reserved for members of a given secret society: it is an attitude anyone can adopt. And in response to atman, since we are talking about 17 killed, I hardly think the idea of ‘crackpots’ does justice to the solemnity of the pronouncement. The choice of words is important. It was not said that they were mad (fous), any more than that they were ‘bloody stupid’ (cons), a word out of Charlie’s vocabulary.

    Taking to the streets is the people’s blanket statement that they are having no more of this nonsense. They want no more of the sharp end of the bayonet and by the same token no more of anyone wielding bayonets whoever they are. In other words, it doesn’t really matter how up to speed you are on subjects discussed here: your vote counts regardless and for once the message is resoundingly clear.

    There is also a lighter side to this light side of psyops. Illumination is also the art of decorating ancient, mostly sacred, manuscripts: this is the sense of the word for instance in the title of Arthur Rimbaud’s poems Les Illuminations. The fact that our cartoonists practised a rather schoolboyish brand of crudely scatological and sexual humour – especially so in Hara-Kiri, much less so in the mainstream press, with Charlie Hebdo somewhere in the middle – rather conceals their role as modern-day illuminators. So it is highly ironic (and, if one can take a step back, highly amusing) that, draped in the robe of utter respectability to hide their own very dark side, the elite should even be pretending to endorse the message of such rabble. The illuminated shown up by the illuminators: who would have thought


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    Default Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting: eleven dead at Paris offices of satirical magazine

    I confirm vis à vis post 130 & 134 : "illuminés" in French = crackpots (most of the time, and certainly as expressed by Hollande).

    I confirm vis à vis post 133 : the covering by the BBC is quite something.

    Quote January 11, 2015
    Doubts raised over authenticity of Charlie Hebdo footage.

    A video clip broadcast by news agencies across the world in relation to the recent events in Paris is now under scrutiny.
    http://bbc-news.co.uk/doubts-raised-...hebdo-footage/
    As a side note, notice that the end of the quote in the written commentary

    Quote Whilst numerous theories have sprung up concerning this and other details, the general consensus among not just sceptics, but some major news agencies, is that the entire event was a ‘False Flag’ attack perpetrated by the CIA and/or Mossad in a “psy-ops” exercise to rouse hatred against Islam and support for what has been so far, a failing campaign in Iraq, Syria and the Middle East.
    was left out in the spoken commentary

    Quote Whilst numerous theories have sprung up concerning this and other details, the general consensus among not just sceptics, but some major news agencies, is that the entire event was a ‘False Flag’ attack.
    Nonetheless, the phrasing "not just sceptics, but some major news agencies," is of value.
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    Hence my comment, "take with a grain of salt" in reference to the translated quote by RT/yournewswire (as to the actual usage, context & meaning of the word, "illuminés" by French President François Hollande in this particular speech). It may have been a dig at the Illuminati, and maybe not... just to make myself clear

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    Articles related to this incident from Davids headline page with links.......


    Paris Terror Attacks: Who Was Behind This Dastardly Act of Terror? The Suspects Killed by Police, Forecloses a Judicial Procedure.



    http://www.globalresearch.ca/paris-t...cedure/5423892

    =================================================================================

    ‘JE SUIS HYPOCRITE’: Enemies of Press Freedom Hijack ‘Charlie’ in Paris

    new Monday 12th January 2015 at 09:50 By David Icke



    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/1...rlie-in-paris/

    ================================================================================

    Hollande asked Netanyahu not to join Paris rally: Reports

    new Monday 12th January 2015 at 09:45 By David Icke



    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/01...nyahu-in-Paris

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    Blood has been ‘put there’??

    new Monday 12th January 2015 at 09:44 By David Icke



    Published on 8 Jan 2015

    Sky news presenter Freudian Slip, says:
    “You can see the blood on the ground, which has been put there”

    ==============================================================================

    Monday 12th January 2015 at 09:42 By David Icke



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    France deploys 5,000 police officers to protect Jewish schools in Paris

    new Monday 12th January 2015 at 09:41 By David Icke



    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-schools-Paris

    ===========================================================================

    David Cameron to push for more surveillance powers against ‘Islamist death cult’

    new Monday 12th January 2015 at 09:38 By David Icke



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...eath-cult.html

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    I think this is important:

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    Please folks, consider this;

    I honestly believe there is an attempt to turn everyone against the Jews as well. There is an obvious attempt to demonize the Muslims and it's working. Christians are portrayed as fantasy believing fools. The Jews are seen as untouchable because of the Holocaust.

    I think the majority here believes the Zionist cabal are behind the Paris 9/1. I think most also believe it was elements of the major intelligence agencies carrying it out with help at the lower levels of law enforcement.

    France just had the controversial vote to recognize Palestine as a state which goes against their previous backing of Israel, and as an ally to the US/UK and subordinate countries who still back Israel. Netanyahu threatened there would be dire consequences. It's now being portrayed as Muslim terrorists, which ultimately makes no sense, because the Muslims are not known to retaliate on behalf of Israel. This fact will soon come to light in the media. And all of a sudden;

    The bad guys are ISRAEL. Extreme backlash as countries meeting at the UN all agree that Israel must be punished. The Zionists created Israel to one day light the spark for their ultimate jihad, Armageddon. This is one step from being realized. The one step is the demonizing of Israel.

    The Zionists will pull out, but leave agents and methods of destruction behind (ISIS, Al CIA-duh and other created groups) as the entire Middle east goes up like kindling. Jew against Muslim, Muslim against Arab, Christians against the whole works. Not to mention the staged attacks that will continue in other countries, so as to provide the reason for the paramilitary police to shut it all down. The Middle East left in tatters, all that's left is what used to be Europe, North and South America, Australia and Asia. Africa has been experiencing genocide for centuries, South America is a massive dictatorship with some areas outwardly acting democratically, Asia the same. That leaves the stubborn "That's not right!! That's not the way it is here!" people in what's left of the "free world" to be reckoned with but we'll be beaten down by Armageddon and the ongoing "conflicts" that will no doubt erupt as all the immigrants we have in these countries are demonized like their people in the Middle East and agent provocateurs create mini wars all over the place. We'll be begging to give up our rights, begging for peace and safety........


    The above is the Zionist fairy tale, Paris is the start of what is to ignite their Armageddon.

    If you don't believe me that's fine, but I have to put this out there. Why? I often wondered why David Icke appeared to fear monger, and he said he wasn't. What he was trying to do was put the worst possibilities out there because saying it may prevent it from happening. And if anything, you have to consider the worst of Worse Case Scenarios when considering what these psychopaths might/could do.

    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=2337

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    Evidence of fake attack and fake kill. The aim of the rifle does not coincide with the point of impact of the supposed bullet.



    No blood:




    Subsequently lots of blood that has been "put there yesterday".





    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xw5dwe6pCEg
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    Quote Charlie Brooker's Wipe 2014 - Adam Curtis


    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM

    Excellent little vid , the modern era of 'CON Fusion' politics started
    in the UK aprox 1980's 90's with the Saachi bros for Mrs Thatcher,
    modified and improved on by Mandlesons team for 'New' Labour.
    With more SPIN ( lies ) than a merry go round at the fair.

    The US elections have been a farce for decades as with most
    media controlled western countries. This is exposed daily on
    the web and even on TV on the minor channels. This vid
    shows how spin has developed into a maize of truths and
    lies that turn off and baffle most of the 99% and they
    know it. Its the equivalent of the elites and the pheasant
    in the past. They knew they were screwed but got on with
    it because their 'Betters' told them they would look after
    them and it was gods will and the 'Order' of things.

    We still have a 1% elite and they are scheming new ways
    to baffle the public to keep power,The politicalfaces may
    change and some come from poor or working class
    backgrounds. But as soon as they get within power,
    The Bilderburgers , and other elitist groups take over
    to steady the ship in theirfavour......The difference is more
    people are waking up to this fact and although war seems
    to be the result of oppressed middle east and other regimes ,
    which is no good for the ordinary populations, but great
    business for the arms corporations and Banksters , and
    keeps the fear factor going. Hopefully bloodless coups
    will start to be the norm and human rights and peace
    for all maybe top of the UN mandate.

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