Here and Now...What's Happening?

[PurpleLama]

The connectivity, latent or otherwise, indicates that the headache also in some part may be derived from my having one more Hipster Breakfast than I should've, late last night.

[Carmody]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UWfIOgsNDRY

[ulli]

How come there is still confusion about what an Internet forum is, and who the true owners are, especially if the forum is moderated.
Just because some people who in the process of contributing to the discussions become friends or brothers in arms, does not entitle them to attack the rightful owner, nor orchestrate movements to get the forum rules changed.
One needs to learn to distinguish where democratic processes are to be applied, and where they are inappropriate.
Provbial 'too many cooks'.

To me the authority is clearly Bill Ryan, who actually started the forum, and can therefore end it, by simply clicking a delete button or vanishing altogether. Starting battles for forum leadership to me is a serious symptom of a mental glitch.

It becomes particularly idiotic when a group who all share a tendency to rebelliousness turn that tendency against the very person who gave them a free microphone to voice their dissent against current governmental systems.

I've been here over four years and have seen Bill himself becoming the target of this compulsive need to dissect anyone with authority. I just don't get it. I remember each case clearly and all I can say is that I wish I had Bill Ryan's patience.

And if he lets one of these members back in a whole flea bag will open and we will see endless demands to bring back everyone else who has ever been unsubscribed.
I remember one particularly twisted mind attacking Bill of racism, and even losing sleep in the ferociousness of their two wek long assault. Bring someone like that back here for healing, Donk ? You have to be kidding.

Avalon is Bill Ryan, and all that is needed is a little respect for the man. Anyone who has issues with that should go and start their own forum.
Please use your considerable intellect to figure this one out, once and for all.

[Flash]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UWfIOgsNDRY

OK Carmody, I do believe and understand that you are not feeling good today! And needed a good old stupid laugh!

This is the stupidest AND quite funny video I have seen you posting - all the Scottish traits are enhanced, that is funny. We should create something like that on French Canadians.

[Carmody]

Like the 'dream', the dragon flits though the system via the lack of consensus... and is enabled by misdirected consensus... consensus enabled via the confusion... created by the sheer noise that is allowed in the system. Allowed in the system, in order to have the democratic core of a free and open system function. the noise is required for the system to work, for the grease of change but the dragon of control..... interferes in the same vein.

Which returns to my point, about 4 posts back. Inflection upon others, via unconsciousness or via directed force, is a goodly part of the problem.

Therefore, the drive in the world system, right now, is to enable, or to continue, in any way possible, a specific form and shape of unconsciousness in the the doorway, in the origins of emergent consciousness, via and within the given impelled and directed 'human avatar'.

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Think of a pure energy environment, were intelligence has to be self organized AND immune to attack, immune to parasitical aspects of 'other'.... in order to rob of energy.

Order out of chaos, but disorder must remain, otherwise.. perfected order..... is as dead as pure chaos.

So, order is required, shape is required, in the effect of coming to being..individually... but let it not descend into a controlled order, otherwise it becomes a dead and mindless fuel or food pump, for other.

ie, no organized religion, just the self actuated kind. No government but that of the self. No order but that of the self. Do not inflict upon other, but remain together steadfast, until enough learning of self has taken place and parasites can be recognized, and negotiated, without loss..without being embodied into being a cow in a parasitical machine. (the manipulation of the monkey fears of the avatar, into a system of order, and coupled belonging..which is really just a slide into being in a feeding cage)

Too much order and the order simply becomes a field of cows that are vampirized.

And every time the machine of freedom emerges, when it moves away from being a senseless cow in a vamprized field, when that motion is started, that is when the hammer blows from the parasite move to being at a fevered pitch. In a fever pitch...to either move into being in the organized system, or to smash the attempt at organized open freedom.... into noise and nothingness.

That is what freedom seekers receive from the fascism and the oligarchy.

You could say that galactic inclusion of the human race, at this time, is destined to fracture the human race or human avatar, as it stands, into a powder of nothingness. The differential is too great, for coherence to remain, for the vast group of incarnated individuals.

At the same time this is happening, as a pressure point, we have an oligarchy (of a sorts) which is refusing growth in the human race by blocking growth and knowing, as if that growth and change occurs...the pack and food animal disappears form under their butts and off their plates, and they have to move on to other things, other ways of being, other points of being.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.

[donk]

Bring someone like that back here for healing, Donk ? You have to be kidding.

Avalon is Bill Ryan, and all that is needed is a little respect for the man. Anyone who has issues with that should go and start their own forum.
Please use your considerable intellect to figure this one out, once and for all.

I don't understand where you got that impression, and hope you are not projecting attacks on BR or questioning his ownership of this place on to me.

I merely shared my view, which carmody claimed was valid as any other...though perhaps some are MORE valid, depending on perspective. Please don't twist mine. I feel like I was pretty clear, that those that have healed would be who I felt belonged here...I know it's not MY forum, and I'm sorry you don't share my opinion. But I NEVER said I wanted rebellious disruptive unhealed folks here.

I also never challenged Bill or this forum in my post. I choose my words carefully, and my only annoyance is when someone projects the opposite of what i intended. I was hoping for unity. I see what it means to you, thanks for your perspective.

A forum to me is different things to different people. It's very different things to me every time I look at it. My favorite use of the forum that Bill so graciously provides is self reflection. A lot of the times, I see in every place, not just--but especially in forums--a revulsion toward honest self reflection.

I am fine with people being repulsed with my sharing of myself. I also learn a lot when those who have a strong emotional reaction to it project on to me.

I thought my views, my perspective was valued. I try to express it as clearly as I can. I hope that others would take the words I give, and not impose theirs on to me. But it is your will...this is your thread...this is Bill's forum, and if ANYONE made clear I was not welcome, i would leave without protest.

[Carmody]

Posted by donk (here)
My favorite use of the forum that Bill so graciously provides is self reflection. A lot of the times, I see in every place, not just--but especially in forums--a revulsion toward honest self reflection.

And even these things, are merely stages. The realization of such, the understanding of stages....is the beginning of an accelerated growth.

Seek detachment.

Which is why one of my favorite (obviously one of my repeated listings of) examples is:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk

My take on Ulli's post is one were she implicitly understands this point and cannot understand why reams of crap would be directed at Bill for living in knowing of this simple (but hard to come by!) point.

The now, in this place, is the balance point, the fulcrum between permanence and impermanence. The fulcrum between history and choice. Stability, beyond the moment... is a death of a sort, but life does not function without the moment of reflection of the past. All these things are interconnected. Life ...is the reflection of past, into growth ...but the fool lets the past own them. And so on.

Interdimensional Plinko, unbounded on either end.



http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/tetka.html

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Oh, it's mercury retro...no wonder things are a bit backward.

Jan 21 to Feb 11, then re-tracking for....uh...

Full moon, lotsa headaches.

I get the feeling that some were upset with my past two-three posts in this thread, I spent my time dreaming as if I was being convinced I had committed a murder...and then forced to allow a few angry people to kill me (while others cheered on), ie a form of capitulated suicide.

Of course, some of my other recent posts aren't helping make that a positive identification of anything.....(more of a 'take a number, get in line' scenario)

You might look at what's going on in Japan these days, it immediately came to mind.

[1inMany]

It is an interesting point in which to sit, the now. Watching buttons be pushed. Deciding each for ourselves what is right, what is true. Each from our own level of understanding, separateness yet oneness, when to object or join the choir. Though "when" reinforces other moments and not this now. Each from our level of awareness, emotional detachment or maturity, and each from our individualized experience, we make choices. Interesting study in ego.

Things always change. Yet...the changes seem to follow a pattern. So really, nothing does. This contradicts the differing comfort levels in different times and places...we can create a space of safety and this is based on our own drive to make it so. Yet..individuality also produces some obstacles.

It certainly behooves us, each one, to examine where we direct our energy. Our time and our effort. And to examine our intentions and motives. For none are without those.

Light ramblings.

Much Love,

[Natalia]

I agree mostly with Ulli on this but as something that has gone on about attacks on Bill Ryan and PA and not specifically about you, or certain things that you have said, donk.

Thinking of it, members and mods have seen attacks on Bill, the mods and the forum here, for years...I suppose sometimes one has seen it one time too many and just kind of "snaps"...or expresses how they see/feel about it when previously they had been biting their tongue about it. I know that it's not just one way...

I do see this as Bill's forum as he is the creator of it, just like my food and nutrition blog is my blog! lol. We are guests here on this forum, and yes it is a community and would not be the same without members.

When I first heard about the other forum a few weeks ago, I checked it out (not the members section as I have not become a member), I was glad that the banned members or other members who have left PA, had a place where they could all be together and still share and discuss things there, with a bunch of people that they knew...but also I had heard of how they (a few) attacked Bill and Omni (and the forum) there and that I did not like or thought it was not fair and not "nice"...(and I suppose that some could feel the same with other people...)...

Peace (I hope! *giggle* )

[1inMany]

As far as forums go...They seem to me like different rooms in the same house. One can maneuver between them if one so chooses. One can *learn* to maneuver them.

Each room may have a different color palette, a different style, thus a different feel. I think of my girls here, one who had so much pink in her room it was like being inside a pepto bismol bottle. Another had such an aversion to pink she wouldn't own pink socks. So if I bought a pink throw pillow as my energetic contribution, where do you suppose I would have chosen to put it?

I do recall having momentary lapses, whereby I would deliver some science related pink item into the pink room, thinking it would be a good way to broaden the pink horizon. Only to be met with stubbornness and opposition. Or delivering something too girly into the science themed room, to the same reaction.

Everything has its place. Until none of it does any more.

[Carmody]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
It is an interesting point in which to sit, the now. Watching buttons be pushed. Deciding each for ourselves what is right, what is true. Each from our own level of understanding, separateness yet oneness, when to object or join the choir. Though "when" reinforces other moments and not this now. Each from our level of awareness, emotional detachment or maturity, and each from our individualized experience, we make choices. Interesting study in ego.

Things always change. Yet...the changes seem to follow a pattern. So really, nothing does. This contradicts the differing comfort levels in different times and places...we can create a space of safety and this is based on our own drive to make it so. Yet..individuality also produces some obstacles.

It certainly behooves us, each one, to examine where we direct our energy. Our time and our effort. And to examine our intentions and motives. For none are without those.

Light ramblings.

Much Love,

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rr0J2mQRWqs

[Dennis Leahy]

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[1inMany]

I don't know about that ulli, that Avalon is Bill Ryan. That's an interesting assertion. Certainly, Avalon is his room, to extend the metaphor. It is certainly a reflection of him-good, bad, and indifferent. Your loyalty does not go unnoticed by me. I am sure he appreciates it, and also takes note.

He has done a lot of hard work, in my opinion, for offering a platform for those who previously had no voice. He has earned my respect for that. And whatever his rules, I will follow them as long as I choose to visit his room, and as long as I am welcome.

But wow, one sure does have to be careful to keep the discernment filters working. I could have really been influenced by all that pink or all of that anti-pink. I'm glad I was able to maintain my own space apart from both. It kept me balanced in my own growth.

Speaking from my own experience of course. Much Love,

[RunningDeer]

I’ve read comments over the other forum. There have been character assassinations about Avalon members from a couple of members and administrators. If ‘enlightened and aware’ people do this then what hope is there for those that have not awakened? To that I say, my money is on those beginning to awaken over those the ‘clever and awake ones’.

It also speaks volumes for the administration (over there) that choose not to act on said behaviors or to the members that run the threads who choose not to call them out and tell them to go spew their poison elsewhere. If a forum isn’t a good fit then leave. Period. Cut throat and back-stabbing does not move us to where we want to end up as a whole.

I shake my head thinking all this is much ado about nothing or wonder what’s the real reason for some of the complaints? It reminds me of one’s need for junior high approval. Some breeze in unaware of the larger flow on the forum and in their self-absorbed fashion wine and go poke-poke. There’s so much to clean up in the world why take up time and energy to question the motives of Administration and Mods?

They have no clue of the behind the scene workings. I’ve said this before. In my short twenty-four hour mod status, I read every complaint launched by members about members going back six months. I learned that I didn’t have the patience nor the tolerance for the crap they have to wade through. You’d be surprised how many had gotten pass after pass after pass. Why? Because the Administration and the Mods have a much bigger compassion meter than me.

RunningDeer <3

[1inMany]

I share your concern, Paula. (Not sure concern is the rght word.) Among those individuals gathered in the name of Truth, one would expect to find some acceptance of differences. I used to teach tolerance as a concept to my students. But tolerance is only a step toward acceptance. I value acceptance more, these days. Because it implies that the differences between viewpoints, personalities, and levels of development have value. I like that.

You know how I have managed to stay around here so long? Because I put a lot of effort into staying away from things that do not personally involve me. It isn't because I don't care. It is because these situations are a distraction from my own path. For me.

People are gonna sling mud. Here, there, and everywhere. Until the weakest link evolves, it will happen.

So for today, I will have a knowledge of the light and dark but continue to seek the Middle. (Hopefully Middle is understood.)

Much Love,

[Flash]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Like the 'dream', the dragon flits though the system via the lack of consensus... and is enabled by misdirected consensus... consensus enabled via the confusion... created by the sheer noise that is allowed in the system. Allowed in the system, in order to have the democratic core of a free and open system function. the noise is required for the system to work, for the grease of change but the dragon of control..... interferes in the same vein.

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Think of a pure energy environment, were intelligence has to be self organized AND immune to attack, immune to parasitical aspects of 'other'.... in order to rob of energy.

Order out of chaos, but disorder must remain, otherwise.. perfected order..... is as dead as pure chaos.

So, order is required, shape is required, in the effect of coming to being..individually... but let it not descend into a controlled order, otherwise it becomes a dead and mindless fuel or food pump, for other.

ie, no organized religion, just the self actuated kind. No government but that of the self. No order but that of the self. Do not inflict upon other, but remain together steadfast, until enough learning of self has taken place and parasites can be recognized, and negotiated, without loss..without being embodied into being a cow in a parasitical machine. (the manipulation of the monkey fears of the avatar, into a system of order, and coupled belonging..which is really just a slide into being in a feeding cage)

Too much order and the order simply becomes a field of cows that are vampirized.

And every time the machine of freedom emerges, when it moves away from being a senseless cow in a vamprized field, when that motion is started, that is when the hammer blows from the parasite move to being at a fevered pitch. In a fever pitch...to either move into being in the organized system, or to smash the attempt at organized open freedom.... into noise and nothingness.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.

This is an incredibly appropriate post for my situation at this precise point in time. Once again....

I am just out of a job where I was clearly unhappy, but would have kept it out of fear and insecurities (financial ones), filled with the LAW, legal laws.

I discovered (or already knew but was reminded) that those laws and those applying them are here to control, they are edicted, implemented and used for sheer control, more and more of it. Those doing the control are not even aware of what they are doing.

And then corporate thinking adds up productivity to it where a human becomes a machine, applying laws.

Thinking and changing some of its applications or giving its due to some people takes more time than not doing it, and productivity suffers. All in a vampiristic fashion. Yes, vampirised cows, it is how I felt. And freedom suffers or become basically non existent.

Dead an mindless pump for others. Yes, exactly.

You would not believe the feeling of relief since I quit that job. No security, but true relief.

And the ones holding the control fortress are so threatened by little act of freedom that they will smash it not knowing what they have done. Out of fear from the more disorganised form of thinking/acting.

The gap is so great between the average us and our galactic brothers, and the control gate keepers - the low levels unknowing shepperd dogs - on earth so set in their belief system, that yes, they would be destroyed to nothingness, and they do feel it.

My question then is: are we going to hold in virtual jail (by just keeping the system as is) those who can reach freedom for those who cannot let go of control, and by stopping integration in the greater brotherhood? Where is the solution? Or are we going to accept a major crisis where most lose their mind?

Morning relfections. Now got to run to do the $$ search in order to put food on the table and kiddie at College.

[Sunny-side-up]

'A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum'

is a musical with music and lyrics by Stephen Sondheim and book by Burt Shevelove and Larry Gelbart.

Inspired by the farces of the ancient Roman playwright Plautus (251–183 BC), specifically Pseudolus, Miles Gloriosus and Mostellaria, the musical tells the bawdy story of a slave named Pseudolus and his attempts to win his freedom by helping his young master woo the girl next door. The plot displays many classic elements of farce, including puns, the slamming of doors, cases of mistaken identity (frequently involving characters disguising themselves as one another), and satirical comments on social class.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Funny...y_to_the_Forum



Anyways,

Here and Now...What's Happening?

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
'A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum'

is a musical with music and lyrics by Stephen Sondheim and book by Burt Shevelove and Larry Gelbart.

Inspired by the farces of the ancient Roman playwright Plautus (251–183 BC), specifically Pseudolus, Miles Gloriosus and Mostellaria, the musical tells the bawdy story of a slave named Pseudolus and his attempts to win his freedom by helping his young master woo the girl next door. The plot displays many classic elements of farce, including puns, the slamming of doors, cases of mistaken identity (frequently involving characters disguising themselves as one another), and satirical comments on social class.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Funny...y_to_the_Forum



Anyways,

Here and Now...What's Happening?

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum Montage

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8SRy5ngHShA

<3

[RunningDeer]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
I share your concern, Paula. (Not sure concern is the right word.) Among those individuals gathered in the name of Truth, one would expect to find some acceptance of differences. I used to teach tolerance as a concept to my students. But tolerance is only a step toward acceptance. I value acceptance more, these days. Because it implies that the differences between viewpoints, personalities, and levels of development have value. I like that.

You know how I have managed to stay around here so long? Because I put a lot of effort into staying away from things that do not personally involve me. It isn't because I don't care. It is because these situations are a distraction from my own path. For me.

People are gonna sling mud. Here, there, and everywhere. Until the weakest link evolves, it will happen.

So for today, I will have a knowledge of the light and dark but continue to seek the Middle. (Hopefully Middle is understood.)

Much Love,

Concerns is a perfect word, One. Sometimes the lines are blurred between the notion of pick your battles vs. jump in to defend another vs. silence is agreement of one trashing another.

I’m the first to say there’s room for me to grow in acceptance of how others interact. It brings up the judge in me. Though, I’m beginning to see that it's in part my Truth and BS meters coming on line. Or more to the point permission to own them. Welcome them.

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