Blue Avians

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by MorningFox (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I referred to the spheres' mass, because even if they were not in the visible spectrum (or any other EM spectrum), their invisible enormous mass would cause apocalyptic gravitational effects on the orbits of everything else.

(And many asteroids and comets would be crashing into them, as well. If they had deflectors, then we'd simply see the asteroids and comets being deflected.)

Those perturbations, including orbital changes of the other planets, would be very evident. If the spheres aren't detectable on any electromagnetic frequency, and also have no operative mass (generating gravitational effects), then for all intents and purposes they don't exist at all in our dimension.

You can't have it both ways.

Ok, let me change the word frequency for 'dimension' then. Even though frequency, as I understand it, is the more correct term (I did say 'visible' though so that was my mistake). Just because we cannot detect something does not mean it isn't there and I'm still surprised you would discount something in such a manner!

Posted by buares (here)
MorningFox, I'm surprised you would buy that easily this science-fiction:

At no point did I say I believed it. I even prefaced my post with 'I don't necessarily believe it'. I just think that discounting something because it has not been detected... 'so it must not be there' mentality is a bit surprising, especially from Bill.

Hi there — I intended no disrespect in my post. I was really wanting to offer some thinking tools to help members (and guests!) evaluate these assertions.

If something is invisible in the light spectrum, undetectable on any other frequency, and has no mass, then a good metaphysical (or physical!) question may be to ask what "it's there" really means.

Ghosts exist too, I'm 100% sure, but they too are invisible and [seemingly] have no mass. So if these spheres are 'ghostly' objects in that sense, then maybe the claims that have been made need to be re-examined in that context.

The inferences made by Wilcock and others certainly seem to be that these are solid objects, not immaterial non-physical somethings.

[MorningFox]

Hey. I get where you're coming from, and took absolutely no offence at all

[DNA]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by David Wilcock on March 3, 2015

[...] this is what the Blue Avians said [...] This would make a great episodic TV show or film if written properly!

Err... already done... 47 years ago !!

Andorians first appeared in the 1968 Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Journey to Babel"



Andorians are a fictional race of humanoid extraterrestrials in the American science fiction franchise Star Trek. They were created by writer D. C. Fontana.

Within the Star Trek narrative, they are native to the icy Class M moon Andoria (also called Andor), which orbits a blue, ringed gas giant.

Distinctive traits of Andorians include their blue skin, a pair of cranial antennae, and white hair.

The 2004 episode "Zero Hour" established that Andorians were one of the four founding members of the United Federation of Planets.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andorian

Just so you know, Gene Rodenberry was known to be in contact through channeling with a self proclaimed off world group known as "The 9". This group said they were the Gods worshiped by the Egyptians.
Gene Rodenberry was said to have gotten quite a few of his story germs through this group known as "The 9".

We have come full circle haven't we?

The below article can be found in it's entirety if you follow the link. I had nothing to do with writing it. I did bold and underline what I considered to be two pertinent statements.




The Council of Nine and the Star Trek Pantheon


I've looked into the story of the Nine before, when doing research for my sci-fi symbolism book. It's well known that Gene Roddenberry had extensive contacts with the Nine as did Jon Povill, who worked on the show Sliders as well as Synchromystic cult fave Total Recall. But it's less well-known that there were nine major characters in the original cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation, all of whom had direct counterparts in the Egyptian pantheon. So for your edutainment, here's a excerpt from my upcoming book dealing with Star Trek's connection to this very mysterious and powerful group...


In between the Star Trek TV series and the first Star Trek motion picture, Gene Roddenberry would find himself confronted with a real-world galactic Brotherhood. The ensuing drama would serve to be one of the strangest episodes recorded in the life of major Hollywood figure.

In early 1975, a broke and depressed Roddenberry was approached by a British former race car driver named Sir John Whitmore, who was associated with a strange organization called ‘Lab-9.’ Though unknown to the public, Lab-9 were ostensibly a sort of an independent version of the X-Files, dedicated to the research of paranormal phenomena. However, Lab-9 had another, more complex agenda- they later claimed to be in contact with a group of extraterrestrials called the ‘Council of Nine’ or simply ‘The Nine’, who had been communicating through ‘channelers’ or psychic mediums.

The Nine claimed to be the creators of mankind, and had informed the channelers that they would be returning to Earth soon. Lab-9 had wanted to hire Roddenberry to write a screenplay based on the Council of Nine’s imminent return. To help Roddenberry in his research, Lab-9 flew him out to their headquarters, located on a large estate in Ossining, NY. There, Roddenberry met and interviewed several psychics, and prepared the groundwork for his script.

Roddenberry wrote a script called the Nine, in which he fictionalized his experiences at Lab-9 and the message for humanity that the Council of Nine wished to convey. But Roddenberry’s story focused more on his fictionalized alter -ego and his marital and financial worries than on the Nine themselves, and Lab-9 requested a rewrite. He handed the task of revising the script to an assistant, Jon Povill. In his revision, Povill posited that the hit sci-fi TV show that Roddenberry’s alter ego had produced in the 60’s was not actually his work, but had been channeled through him by the Council of Nine. UFO cultists in the 70’s and 80’s would make similar claims about Star Trek itself.

And this was no ragtag bunch of hippie freaks that Roddenberry was dealing with. The man who set the whole thing up was Andrija Puharich, who was involved in the early career of famed Israeli psychic Uri Geller. Roddenberry biographer Joel Engel noted that Whitmore introduced Roddenberry to several key figures in the British Broadcasting Corp. as well. It’s interesting to note that at the same time Roddenberry was meeting with all these British TV executives about the Council of Nine, a Star Trek knockoff called Space:1999 premiered on British television.

[Jake]

Posted by Aspen (here)
Well I must say, I don't know if this is science fiction or not. But I am holding out the possibility that these spheres are not third dimensional the way we are. If they are fourth dimensional maybe they would not alter the gravitational forces within our solar system? Perhaps, in some way we don't understand, they are exerting some kind of effect on the planet to slow down the physical changes of earth so that they are not so traumatic for humans. If it is true that we are valuable genetic material, or that others are interested in our spiritual evolution as a species then maybe there could be benevolent motivations.

What good are biological samples and physical resources to a non physical being?

Technology??? Beyond physicality, there is no need for technology..

Giant cloaked spheres? Coming in from different directions, yet phased into another dimension?



I have to say something. The entire notion of a higher being coming to save us is a false, victim based mentality. The only way to help, is to incarnate as humans... (but then we are helping ourselves, no?) We are not alone, but we deserve to be. The likes of Greer, Wilcox,, etc,,,, seem to be mixing different bags of 'physics' to suit what they are saying at the time, and requires (almost) a physics degree before you start seeing the deep flaws. Especially regarding space travel!! I know damn well that we, AS PHYSICAL BEINGS do NOT need to understand physicality WHATSOEVER to traverse spacetime, and/or become non-physical..

Yes, astral projecting aliens!!! And they dont need some sort of 'spacecraft'..

On one hand, we have folks Telling us that all higher beings are bound to OUR understandings of physics.
On the other hand, these same folks use abtracts like 'telepathy' or 'astral' or 'densities' or 'dimensions' or 'download' to explain away what they dont understand!!

Physicality is quite a pickle, especially if you come from higher states of being. It is harder to move, slower, much slower,, thicker and dense like being under water. Vision is cut back, everything is dark, it is hard to focus.. Everything is thick and muddy. We have to rely on memory rather than true knowledge. We are completely cut off and dont know it... Thoughts are vague, and hard to manifest.

A higher state, nonphysical being (coming in from outside the earth life belief system territories) does not need a ship... What for? They are not bound by the same rules... That is like putting a genie in a bottle. Or building one of those sail boats inside of a bottle,, very clever but NOT NOT NOT the way to travel inside a physical belief system..

I challenge each one of you to go deep, and determine for yourself what it could mean if physicality were an illusion,, because even the most die hard PHYSICISTS have come to that conclusion.

Once, I got up after a fully conciouse OBE,,, many of the sensations remained after awakening fully so I thought that I was still out of my body... I put my right index finger right into the formica countertop, and it gave way like pudding. My wife freaked the hell out.. Snapped me out of it... We have since moved, but the finger mark is still there... Do you see? The proof is in the pudding... lol...

Like the spoon bending kid in the Matrix said,, "The trick is not to bend the spoon with your mind, but to realize that the spoon does not exist."


If you must look to the stars for salvation,, I will not stand in your way...

The secret that is being covered up are the latent abilities and potentials that we carry.... TPTB do not care about physical ETs... not as long as we remain ignorant to the implications of higher physics and what our minds are capable of.. The debate seems to be controlled, and physical ETs are not a threat to their controls over us... It is the nonphysical beings (which we are, but have long forgotten) that are a threat to them. Not directly, but if we were to all embrace the amazing beings that we are, and uncover latent potentials then it is GAME OVER for them..

Keep people entrenched in cave man physics and cave man spirituality, , and they will never see beyond the sides of the box they are in.

Ie,, control the information being discussed so as to keep the cave man physics in full focus,, then they can keep us in a box for another thousand or so years, while the breakaway crowd prepares to pretend to be Gods.

We are prisoners to our own minds... The reality of ET fades,, compared to our own damn potential...

PERIOD!!!

Jake

[DNA]

Posted by Jake (here)

Posted by Aspen (here)
Well I must say, I don't know if this is science fiction or not. But I am holding out the possibility that these spheres are not third dimensional the way we are. If they are fourth dimensional maybe they would not alter the gravitational forces within our solar system? Perhaps, in some way we don't understand, they are exerting some kind of effect on the planet to slow down the physical changes of earth so that they are not so traumatic for humans. If it is true that we are valuable genetic material, or that others are interested in our spiritual evolution as a species then maybe there could be benevolent motivations.

What good are biological samples and physical resources to a non physical being?

Technology??? Beyond physicality, there is no need for technology..

Giant cloaked spheres? Coming in from different directions, yet phased into another dimension?



I have to say something. The entire notion of a higher being coming to save us is a false, victim based mentality. The only way to help, is to incarnate as humans... (but then we are helping ourselves, no?) We are not alone, but we deserve to be. The likes of Greer, Wilcox,, etc,,,, seem to be mixing different bags of 'physics' to suit what they are saying at the time, and requires (almost) a physics degree before you start seeing the deep flaws. Especially regarding space travel!! I know damn well that we, AS PHYSICAL BEINGS do NOT need to understand physicality WHATSOEVER to traverse spacetime, and/or become non-physical..

Yes, astral projecting aliens!!! And they dont need some sort of 'spacecraft'..

On one hand, we have folks Telling us that all higher beings are bound to OUR understandings of physics.
On the other hand, these same folks use abtracts like 'telepathy' or 'astral' or 'densities' or 'dimensions' or 'download' to explain away what they dont understand!!

Physicality is quite a pickle, especially if you come from higher states of being. It is harder to move, slower, much slower,, thicker and dense like being under water. Vision is cut back, everything is dark, it is hard to focus.. Everything is thick and muddy. We have to rely on memory rather than true knowledge. We are completely cut off and dont know it... Thoughts are vague, and hard to manifest.

A higher state, nonphysical being (coming in from outside the earth life belief system territories) does not need a ship... What for? They are not bound by the same rules... That is like putting a genie in a bottle. Or building one of those sail boats inside of a bottle,, very clever but NOT NOT NOT the way to travel inside a physical belief system..

I challenge each one of you to go deep, and determine for yourself what it could mean if physicality were an illusion,, because even the most die hard PHYSICISTS have come to that conclusion.

Once, I got up after a fully conciouse OBE,,, many of the sensations remained after awakening fully so I thought that I was still out of my body... I put my right index finger right into the formica countertop, and it gave way like pudding. My wife freaked the hell out.. Snapped me out of it... We have since moved, but the finger mark is still there... Do you see? The proof is in the pudding... lol...

Like the spoon bending kid in the Matrix said,, "The trick is not to bend the spoon with your mind, but to realize that the spoon does not exist."


If you must look to the stars for salvation,, I will not stand in your way...

The secret that is being covered up are the latent abilities and potentials that we carry.... TPTB do not care about physical ETs... not as long as we remain ignorant to the implications of higher physics and what our minds are capable of.. The debate seems to be controlled, and physical ETs are not a threat to their controls over us... It is the nonphysical beings (which we are, but have long forgotten) that are a threat to them. Not directly, but if we were to all embrace the amazing beings that we are, and uncover latent potentials then it is GAME OVER for them..

Keep people entrenched in cave man physics and cave man spirituality, , and they will never see beyond the sides of the box they are in.

Ie,, control the information being discussed so as to keep the cave man physics in full focus,, then they can keep us in a box for another thousand or so years, while the breakaway crowd prepares to pretend to be Gods.

We are prisoners to our own minds... The reality of ET fades,, compared to our own damn potential...

PERIOD!!!

Jake

Jake I always appreciate your point of view.

As I do the rest of the administrators, but at times, it feels like you guys agree with Bill to an almost embarrassing extent.
There is a certain appearance that when Bill gives the party line, you guys follow.

I appreciate the opinion of all of the administrators, but it would feel more genuine from you guys if you did not put up such an obvious united front.

The result is, your message feels disingenuous.

I don't think there is any danger in hearing Wilcock out. And I do not believe you think there is either.
No one is drinking any KOOL-AID.
This is wonderful fodder for thought and dialogue.

Just FYI, I'm enjoying this thread immensely.

[Jake]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by Jake (here)

Posted by Aspen (here)
Well I must say, I don't know if this is science fiction or not. But I am holding out the possibility that these spheres are not third dimensional the way we are. If they are fourth dimensional maybe they would not alter the gravitational forces within our solar system? Perhaps, in some way we don't understand, they are exerting some kind of effect on the planet to slow down the physical changes of earth so that they are not so traumatic for humans. If it is true that we are valuable genetic material, or that others are interested in our spiritual evolution as a species then maybe there could be benevolent motivations.

What good are biological samples and physical resources to a non physical being?

Technology??? Beyond physicality, there is no need for technology..

Giant cloaked spheres? Coming in from different directions, yet phased into another dimension?



I have to say something. The entire notion of a higher being coming to save us is a false, victim based mentality. The only way to help, is to incarnate as humans... (but then we are helping ourselves, no?) We are not alone, but we deserve to be. The likes of Greer, Wilcox,, etc,,,, seem to be mixing different bags of 'physics' to suit what they are saying at the time, and requires (almost) a physics degree before you start seeing the deep flaws. Especially regarding space travel!! I know damn well that we, AS PHYSICAL BEINGS do NOT need to understand physicality WHATSOEVER to traverse spacetime, and/or become non-physical..

Yes, astral projecting aliens!!! And they dont need some sort of 'spacecraft'..

On one hand, we have folks Telling us that all higher beings are bound to OUR understandings of physics.
On the other hand, these same folks use abtracts like 'telepathy' or 'astral' or 'densities' or 'dimensions' or 'download' to explain away what they dont understand!!

Physicality is quite a pickle, especially if you come from higher states of being. It is harder to move, slower, much slower,, thicker and dense like being under water. Vision is cut back, everything is dark, it is hard to focus.. Everything is thick and muddy. We have to rely on memory rather than true knowledge. We are completely cut off and dont know it... Thoughts are vague, and hard to manifest.

A higher state, nonphysical being (coming in from outside the earth life belief system territories) does not need a ship... What for? They are not bound by the same rules... That is like putting a genie in a bottle. Or building one of those sail boats inside of a bottle,, very clever but NOT NOT NOT the way to travel inside a physical belief system..

I challenge each one of you to go deep, and determine for yourself what it could mean if physicality were an illusion,, because even the most die hard PHYSICISTS have come to that conclusion.

Once, I got up after a fully conciouse OBE,,, many of the sensations remained after awakening fully so I thought that I was still out of my body... I put my right index finger right into the formica countertop, and it gave way like pudding. My wife freaked the hell out.. Snapped me out of it... We have since moved, but the finger mark is still there... Do you see? The proof is in the pudding... lol...

Like the spoon bending kid in the Matrix said,, "The trick is not to bend the spoon with your mind, but to realize that the spoon does not exist."


If you must look to the stars for salvation,, I will not stand in your way...

The secret that is being covered up are the latent abilities and potentials that we carry.... TPTB do not care about physical ETs... not as long as we remain ignorant to the implications of higher physics and what our minds are capable of.. The debate seems to be controlled, and physical ETs are not a threat to their controls over us... It is the nonphysical beings (which we are, but have long forgotten) that are a threat to them. Not directly, but if we were to all embrace the amazing beings that we are, and uncover latent potentials then it is GAME OVER for them..

Keep people entrenched in cave man physics and cave man spirituality, , and they will never see beyond the sides of the box they are in.

Ie,, control the information being discussed so as to keep the cave man physics in full focus,, then they can keep us in a box for another thousand or so years, while the breakaway crowd prepares to pretend to be Gods.

We are prisoners to our own minds... The reality of ET fades,, compared to our own damn potential...

PERIOD!!!

Jake

Jake I always appreciate your point of view.

As I do the rest of the administrators, but at times, it feels like you guys agree with Bill to an almost embarrassing extent.
There is a certain appearance that when Bill gives the party line, you guys follow.

I appreciate the opinion of all of the administrators, but it would feel more genuine from you guys if you did not put up such an obvious united front.

The result is, your message feels disingenuous.

I don't think there is any danger in hearing Wilcock out. And I do not believe you think there is either.
No one is drinking any KOOL-AID.
This is wonderful fodder for thought and dialogue.

Just FYI, I'm enjoying this thread immensely.

I can appreciate that. I promise you that when I post, it is from the heart. What can I say, great minds think alike.. To be honest, I could write a book about my views on ETs and physicality... oh yeah,, I already did. Lol... There are no marching orders behind the scenes, my friend.. With depest respect to Bill, I do NOT ask permission to speak from the heart,, nor do I worry about disagreeing with or contradicting Bill. Avalon is a place where we can find common ground in disagreements. You can't find that just anywhere...

Bill has never once told me what to say or do, outside normal mod duties. My experiences and opinions are my own..

Jake

[Sunny-side-up]

This is another one of those posts that push our perceived rabbit-hole sciences!

IE: do we believe that ET/ED's have the means/technology to do things like:

Cancel Mass/Inertia,
Move through dimensions/space-time,
Calculate their actions and consequences of their actions by which I mean moving Giant-Sphere-Craft around with out causing havoc and destruction,

The Rabbit-hole technology list is vast, technology that over the few years I have been a member of Avalon I have come to believe in, as have many here in other posts!

So the rabbit-hole has become a place where nearly anything is possible and so why not 'hundreds-of-giant-Sphere-Craft' moving into our solar-system?

Things need to be synchronized from one post to another, I would like to see a Poll of some kind in-relation to ET/ED tech and if it is considered real in Avalon-Rabbit-Hole or not!

I still always come back to believing the Universe is just an illusion and so anything is possible and or doesn't actually exist anyways

[Maia Gabrial]

David said that the Avians were the only ones so far who were "visible". It sounds like the others will follow after whatever it is they do to stepdown their frequencies....

Without the help of the “Sphere Beings,” as they are called, the Alliance wouldn’t be able to accomplish this. There are apparently four races of Sphere Beings but the Blue Avians are the only ones that are visible at this time.

[Sunny-side-up]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
David said that the Avians were the only ones so far who were "visible". It sounds like the others will follow after whatever it is they do to stepdown their frequencies....

Without the help of the “Sphere Beings,” as they are called, the Alliance wouldn’t be able to accomplish this. There are apparently four races of Sphere Beings but the Blue Avians are the only ones that are visible at this time.

Maybe in prelude to our 'we/earth' raising our frequencies to meet them

[magnum]

yeah..those using conventional science and physics..such as Bill Ryan tends to do..have a very limited view on what may be possible.Try to imagine where our technological abilities may be in a thousand years..now try to imagine the technological abilities of those millions of years ahead of us...use your imaginations.

Bill wrote "I referred to the spheres' mass, because even if they were not in the visible spectrum (or any other EM spectrum), their invisible enormous mass would cause apocalyptic gravitational effects on the orbits of everything else.

(And many asteroids and comets would be crashing into them, as well. If they had deflectors, then we'd simply see the asteroids and comets being deflected.)

Those perturbations, including orbital changes of the other planets, would be very evident. If the spheres aren't detectable on any electromagnetic frequency, and also have no operative mass (generating gravitational effects), then for all intents and purposes they don't exist at all in our dimension.

You can't have it both ways"

what makes you so sure you can't have it both ways Bill?..conventional physics..the possibilities are endless

[Tangri]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by MorningFox (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I referred to the spheres' mass, because even if they were not in the visible spectrum (or any other EM spectrum), their invisible enormous mass would cause apocalyptic gravitational effects on the orbits of everything else.

(And many asteroids and comets would be crashing into them, as well. If they had deflectors, then we'd simply see the asteroids and comets being deflected.)

Those perturbations, including orbital changes of the other planets, would be very evident. If the spheres aren't detectable on any electromagnetic frequency, and also have no operative mass (generating gravitational effects), then for all intents and purposes they don't exist at all in our dimension.

You can't have it both ways.

Ok, let me change the word frequency for 'dimension' then. Even though frequency, as I understand it, is the more correct term (I did say 'visible' though so that was my mistake). Just because we cannot detect something does not mean it isn't there and I'm still surprised you would discount something in such a manner!

Posted by buares (here)
MorningFox, I'm surprised you would buy that easily this science-fiction:

At no point did I say I believed it. I even prefaced my post with 'I don't necessarily believe it'. I just think that discounting something because it has not been detected... 'so it must not be there' mentality is a bit surprising, especially from Bill.

Hi there — I intended no disrespect in my post. I was really wanting to offer some thinking tools to help members (and guests!) evaluate these assertions.

If something is invisible in the light spectrum, undetectable on any other frequency, and has no mass, then a good metaphysical (or physical!) question may be to ask what "it's there" really means.

Ghosts exist too, I'm 100% sure, but they too are invisible and [seemingly] have no mass. So if these spheres are 'ghostly' objects in that sense, then maybe the claims that have been made need to be re-examined in that context.

The inferences made by Wilcock and others certainly seem to be that these are solid objects, not immaterial non-physical somethings.

I am not an ET discussion's fan. I believe what we have here(in Terra) more malicious and important than ET's, because of their acts' affects.

It is nice to see you changed the tune. Your first reply was a very arguable one.

"I referred to the spheres' mass, because even if they were not in the visible spectrum (or any other EM spectrum), their invisible enormous mass would cause apocalyptic gravitational effects on the orbits of everything else.

(And many asteroids and comets would be crashing into them, as well. If they had deflectors, then we'd simply see the asteroids and comets being deflected.)"

I know that you know, we have some entities in earth which have mass and they do not hit us every day, meantime they are with us and sharing same spot and they can be visible and materialised at any-time with will.
In my humble opinion(IMHO), it related with time manipulation 2(5 or 6 or 1000) objects can share same space at different times [Past, present, future and last but not least, alternate (unwritten-unwitnessed)]
I believe our Earth is a unique planet while allowing all possibilities at the same place and still have experimentation on mixture of DNA interactions behalf of all over universes.
First, I was upset the people who cares more ET aliens than terrestrial ones but nowadays I accept their works which could help them to understand what is going on here(Terra). They will gain a vantage point to see.

I believe, Terra is a playground in daycare centre which held hostage by supply teachers.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by MorningFox (here)
... I'm surprised you of all people would discount something like that in such a blasé and narrow minded manner, I must say.

Astounding. Calling someone "narrow-minded" for not believing the latest fantasy to tickle the alt-gullible-believer-sphere. hahahahahahahaha

MorningFox, there are eleven neon-pink giraffe-people inhabiting a 1 kilometer square cube - in your left nostril. I KNOW it's true (an insider told me so!) They are "cloaked", plus they are able to alter our/your reality so you cannot feel them all jammed-up in your nostril. "Tactile-cloaking" is the name of the technology. Don't be dismissive! They are real and they are there. Please don't sneeze - it messes with their ability to remain tactile-cloaked.

You HAVE to admit it might be true, or else (by your standard) you declare yourself to be narrow-minded (even though your left nostril is stretched out REALLY BIG!)

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Jake (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
...

Jake I always appreciate your point of view.

As I do the rest of the administrators, but at times, it feels like you guys agree with Bill to an almost embarrassing extent.
There is a certain appearance that when Bill gives the party line, you guys follow.

I appreciate the opinion of all of the administrators, but it would feel more genuine from you guys if you did not put up such an obvious united front.

The result is, your message feels disingenuous.

... There are no marching orders behind the scenes, my friend.. With depest respect to Bill, I do NOT ask permission to speak from the heart,, nor do I worry about disagreeing with or contradicting Bill. ...
Bill has never once told me what to say or do, outside normal mod duties. My experiences and opinions are my own..

Jake

If you read Jake's words (or mine) you will potentially be reading them at the same time as Bill, admins, and mods. Unrehearsed. Not pre-approved.

C'mon, do you really think we have a powwow behind the curtain to figure out what we're going to say - about what color a goddamned dress is, or whether or not our solar system is now chock-full of bluebird-people in planet-sized invisible spheres?????? Do you hear yourself?

Maybe, just maybe, Bill has attracted some people to work as mods/admins with a modicum of discernment and common sense. Could that possibly be what you're experiencing, en-masse, from the mods/admins and Bill?

Oh, why did I visit this thread!

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine headin' my way
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

Mister Bluebird-man's on my shoulder
It's the truth, it's actual
Everything is satisfactual

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day, yes sir!

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine headin' my way
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

Mister Bluebird-man's on my shoulder
It's the truth, it's actual
Everything is satisfactual
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, feeling this way

Mister Bluebird-man's on my shoulder
It is the truth, it's actual... huh?
Where is that bluebird-man? Mm-hm!
Everything is satisfactual

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!

-with apologies to Allie Wrubel & Ray Gilbert

[Harley]

Feels like it's the Off-season to me.

[Tangri]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by MorningFox (here)
... I'm surprised you of all people would discount something like that in such a blasé and narrow minded manner, I must say.

Astounding. Calling someone "narrow-minded" for not believing the latest fantasy to tickle the alt-gullible-believer-sphere. hahahahahahahaha

MorningFox, there are eleven neon-pink giraffe-people inhabiting a 1 kilometer square cube - in your left nostril. I KNOW it's true (an insider told me so!) They are "cloaked", plus they are able to alter our/your reality so you cannot feel them all jammed-up in your nostril. "Tactile-cloaking" is the name of the technology. Don't be dismissive! They are real and they are there. Please don't sneeze - it messes with their ability to remain tactile-cloaked.

You HAVE to admit it might be true, or else (by your standard) you declare yourself to be narrow-minded (even though your left nostril is stretched out REALLY BIG!)

Hahahahaaha ! You made me laugh,
But you might be right even they may be with an 10 elephant people

Think pocket universes or pocket dimensions, maybe you can see what the things in your living room are.

As you see I am still not saying a dime thing about OP.

[DNA]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Jake (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
...

Jake I always appreciate your point of view.

As I do the rest of the administrators, but at times, it feels like you guys agree with Bill to an almost embarrassing extent.
There is a certain appearance that when Bill gives the party line, you guys follow.

I appreciate the opinion of all of the administrators, but it would feel more genuine from you guys if you did not put up such an obvious united front.

The result is, your message feels disingenuous.

... There are no marching orders behind the scenes, my friend.. With depest respect to Bill, I do NOT ask permission to speak from the heart,, nor do I worry about disagreeing with or contradicting Bill. ...
Bill has never once told me what to say or do, outside normal mod duties. My experiences and opinions are my own..

Jake

If you read Jake's words (or mine) you will potentially be reading them at the same time as Bill, admins, and mods. Unrehearsed. Not pre-approved.

C'mon, do you really think we have a powwow behind the curtain to figure out what we're going to say - about what color a goddamned dress is, or whether or not our solar system is now chock-full of bluebird-people in planet-sized invisible spheres?????? Do you hear yourself?

Maybe, just maybe, Bill has attracted some people to work as mods/admins with a modicum of discernment and common sense. Could that possibly be what you're experiencing, en-masse, from the mods/admins and Bill?

Oh, why did I visit this thread!

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine headin' my way
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

Mister Bluebird-man's on my shoulder
It's the truth, it's actual
Everything is satisfactual

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day, yes sir!

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day
Plenty of sunshine headin' my way
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

Mister Bluebird-man's on my shoulder
It's the truth, it's actual
Everything is satisfactual
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, feeling this way

Mister Bluebird-man's on my shoulder
It is the truth, it's actual... huh?
Where is that bluebird-man? Mm-hm!
Everything is satisfactual

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!

-with apologies to Allie Wrubel & Ray Gilbert

I think your dismissive and sarcastic tone would indicate I hit a nerve. Funny how that happens when the truth is spoken.

[Aspen]

Well I am glad people are able to laugh about it. I was trying to describe this thread to my husband and explained that these people are like 8 foot tall birds, like Big Bird on Sesame Street, but blue. I am imagining a royal blue, and the people a bit more dignified and humanoid shaped.
I agree with others that the Blue Avians may be fantasy, but then again what if they are not? If David Wilcock hadn't said it I wouldn't have paid attention. Avalon is my escape from my own very real world of dealing with heavy topics like my job of seeing clients who have been abused or are offenders. But of course, I am hoping that there are some answers (or the possibility of pointing us in the right direction of answers ) or I wouldn't spend any time on this site. I don't really know if it is wise to trust the agenda's of any aliens. Hopefully whatever their agenda's are, some of them are in agreement with the Highest good of what the collective humanity would want.
Maybe if there are spheres, it is simply a continuation of the experiment that GoodETxsg mentioned - the one million year long experiment in which we are lab rats and a genetic experiment, a genetic combination of many different ETs. Or maybe humans are unique in some way that we are not aware of and that is why there is so much interest. Perhaps beings from other dimensions are curious about what could happen at this time with earth moving into this part of the galaxy etc etc. and are participating by softening or slowing down potentially cataclysmic forces because we as humans have not figured out how to do that yet. It remains to be seen why they would do that. . . . hopefully some day we get to find out and its not a part of some horrible plan. Overall I am not too concerned because I believe we probably reincarnate and will end up somewhere else if not here. Enjoying the unique times as much as I can!

[Feritciva]

I find the posts and reactions of Avalonians way more interesting and informative than whole Blue Avian race story!

[Agape]

It's more like 'creating a story' , imagination is extremely powerful tool. Someone has a vision ( imaginative ) and feels this is true . Then others add a piece and evolve the idea ( and supply some so called 'references' ) .
It seems to be originating with 'GoodeETxSG' who also enters the Sphere , breaches the protocols, after initially 'remote viewing' the Sphere , the other parties involved ( imaginary people from DARPA, the Pentagon, and often named 'Secret Projects' are all in his back .. ) , then 'leaks' it to David W , quoting unnamed source , and then comments on his own story from the other side of the 'imagination mirror' .
Welcome to Wonderland .
He is no way alone . Many people do live with such beautiful ( some also terrifying ) imaginations , some become world known writers , many ( even if secretly ) believe in reality of their imaginations and there's always the proverbial 'seed of truth' in them all , at least so they insist . But very few also claim their imaginations being 'entirely real' or 'leaking them' in form of 'witness testimony' .

I remember a chapter from Robert Fulghum whose books and quotes I came to love long ago ,
where he talked of talking to the 'voice in his head' ( we all do it even if not admitting ) but in his case , he spoke of talking to the 'committee of elders' instead, each with different character , assignment and opinion.
So you can well imagine talking to several ET species, emissary from DARPA, Vatican , China and anyone else whom you can fit in to your 'committee' . And there's no one in the whole world to tell you if/that you actually didn't talk to them , and well , of course, the committee comes to some really powerful conclusions at the end too.

...

So to expand on the 'Blue Avians' in a Sphere story , they're quite harmless in my opinion ( but that's ''IMHO'' , you'll soon understand why .. and pardon me if using these 'internet abbreviations ' unless you're in extreme rush is something I do not condone ) .
I can well imagine how they float here in the same manner we send a bus trip full of school children to the Safari or to the ZOO , maybe Safari is better allegory because you're not supposed to get off the bus but merely to observe .

After all , we are 'caged here' . So it's a beautiful allegory in many ways because we often keep birds in cages then watch them and then these 'big blue birds' come and watch us being caged here .

They can't ( or shouldn't ) intervene being 'in the other dimension' , well, I admit that Bill is most correct where the physics of the story is concerned things do not fit easily ( even 'higher dimensional object' , especially one of such proportions would influence events in 'our dimensions' ) but maybe - probably - that's another part of the story to be 'leaked' later and how events on Earth will be affected .

In either case, I don't imagine they're in for 'breeding experiment' but rather to watch and we're being as curious to them as they are to us .

No 'Blue Bird Child' is supposed to exit the bus ( Sphere ) but I can imagine one or two will always do that and vice versa .. well , they may like to have one or two ( oh sorry, one, it was 'only the Goode' ) humans in , cuddle him for a while , sing him a song ..and hopefully .. let him home .
I don't think their school authorities would allow carrying 'living specimen' back home as it would breach many rules and treaties .

If 'evacuating' some humans is on mission plan though the story turns far more exciting because 'Big Blue Birds' may have really nice, clean , spacy dimensional homes for each human group with plenty of fresh food appearing 'out of nowhere' each morning .

The odds are , being Blue Birds they can sing and communicate with musical language that may be pretty complicated so don't think we would ever be intelligent enough to learn it except for basics but , it maybe beautiful one .

Well, now the opinions .. of course , what can the group of parrots in cage we go to see in the ZOO make of human visitors really ? Suppose they have imagination and can talk ?
Are we good ? Are we bad ? Are we friends ? Do we come to breed with them ? ( I know that would be fun but it's hardly the case ) . Do we kill birds occasionally ? Feed them antibiotics ? ( Oh please , don't mention the story about chickens and McDonalds, it's a tale , not true )

So we can talk . I think they send these 'school trips' around here regularly, that's how the myth of 'Great Blue Bird' evolved .

These were the few who ran away on that occasion thinking they can live here, in the wild .

Knock knock on the Mirror wall, Blue Bird can you hear me .. saying Hi . You're beautiful. You too. Are you happy in there ? Not really . But I can't get you out right now, they don't allow . Hope next time . Ok, get ready . Sing me a song please ...
Which song ?
One about Love and another about your Planet ..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eP91nH8Hjvc

I'd like to conclude this 'chapter' with quote from Robert Fulghum in either case ..my favourite ..

“I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge. That myth is more potent than history. That dreams are more powerful than facts. That hope always triumphs over experience. That laughter is the only cure for grief. And I believe that love is stronger than death.”
― Robert Fulghum, All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten



....it's a long long night ....

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by Olaf (here)
David also stated indirectly that the Avians are a 4th density race (at least this would make sense when it is easier for them to get someone via OBE). In that case their ships must be also 4th density, which means that they'd have almost no physical interaction with 3D reality (no interaction with 3d gravity, not visible).

Latest from DW suggests the Blue Avians are actually ... Ra ... from the Law of One Ra (which would suggest 6th density STO).

Wait....where are you getting this from?? I haven't heard him say this.

UPDATE Ohhh, I see....there are more comments he left on Fulford's blog.

About the possibility of them being the Ra group....I seriously doubt it, but it's an interesting possibility. I'm pretty sure that the Ra group said they are nonphysical at this point. They don't even reside on their home planet of Venus anymore. They did say they have in the past taken what they called "thoughtform bodies" that they described as being very tall, very slender, and with golden skin. Based on their description, I imagined them looking sort of like a golden version of the evolved Mecha from the movie AI: Artificial Intelligence. Here's a picture that approximates what I'm thinking of.





But that was when they were visiting Egypt, back when they said they were 5th density. But I would suppose they could take any thoughtform bodies they want.