Another false flag (the Germanwings plane crash; did the co-pilot intentionally crash it?)

[ghostrider]

In the words of one of the great rock bands of Canada , Rush , all the world's a stage and we are merely players ... so much of our world is staged for fear , confusion and control ...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by Tangri (here)

Posted by MorningFox (here)
I never said anything about only some members being allowed to start new threads

...but if we have a thread about a topic let's keep it all in there. What on earth is the point of splitting it up into two or more threads? It just makes reading the information more difficult.

Subject can be same name but different approach and deserves another thread. I do not look any more Sandy Hook threads, even a new post added on it, If they use same picture or videos it can be merged.(with respect to MODs)

*grr* *bash* *snarl*

*edit*


>.<

[Operator]

One purpose of a false flag could be to advocate now the remote overriding of the cockpit controls

[syrwong]

The official investigation is blaming the incident on the copilot insanely committing suicide, taking hundreds of innocent lives with him. I find this very annoying for it has become a routinely acceptable explanation.
There are many ways to commit suicide. It is nonsensical to think that
1.Suicidal people are insane and have no regard for others.
Most people committing suicide are of their free choice and many are kind and empathic. Also most suicides are done when alone. Extremely rarely do they want to take the innocent with them.
2. Those who care for many by profession do not commit suicide this way. Before the artificial world of terrorism, can anyone give me an example of mass killing the innocent before killing self? In a suicide,
Does a bus driver like to veer off a cliff with a load of passengers?
Does a train driver like to crash his train at full speed to a dead end?
Does a security guard carrying a machine gun like to mow down everybody?
Does a chef poison all the restaurant people?
Does a school teacher slash the kids with a big knife?
I would rather believe the opposite is more routine, the suicidal person would make sure the people in his care are all safe before he feels ready to go, as in the case of a ship captain.

[Sophocles]

The fact that suicide was concluded with as early as it was, tells me there`s something fishy with this scenario (although one cannot quite rule out the possibility, the way I see it).

[kemo]

150 people are dead. Smashed on a mountain slope Including about 20 kids. And the armchair conspiracy theorists have nothing better to do than immediately start weaving into their own little tapestry of pet theories based on no hard information. Practically every damn incident these days gets labelled as a false flag of some sort. Makes me sick.

[Sunny-side-up]

Posted by kemo (here)
150 people are dead. Smashed on a mountain slope Including about 20 kids. And the armchair conspiracy theorists have nothing better to do than immediately start weaving into their own little tapestry of pet theories based on no hard information. Practically every damn incident these days gets labelled as a false flag of some sort. Makes me sick.

unfortunately 'These are the days my friend'
And it has not been done in disrespect for lost lives but in attempts to put proper reason to them and make sure no one gets away with it behind the vale/scenes!

[araucaria]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

Posted by kemo (here)
150 people are dead. Smashed on a mountain slope Including about 20 kids. And the armchair conspiracy theorists have nothing better to do than immediately start weaving into their own little tapestry of pet theories based on no hard information. Practically every damn incident these days gets labelled as a false flag of some sort. Makes me sick.

unfortunately 'These are the days my friend'
And it has not been done in disrespect for lost lives but in attempts to put proper reason to them and make sure no one gets away with it behind the vale/scenes!

Who knows where this is all leading:

Posted by araucaria (here)
You also have mixed, neither true nor false flag scenarios such as those involving agent provocateurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur ), who may for instance infiltrate a peaceful demonstration in order to turn it violent. This I suppose would be the method used with drills that turn into the real thing. They might also include things like inciting young vandals to deface Jewish cemeteries. If such perpetrators were simply paid vandals just as others are paid killers, then no anti-Semitism need be the cause and only pro-Semitism would be the result.

When the unmasking of this process reaches a certain scale, that has a wider effect on our very perception of what we took for reality; when we see that nothing is as it seems, we begin to focus on the big picture instead of being attached to and obsessed with collecting tiny details. Once the big picture is recognized as being a sham, we no longer have time for true flag operations either, and can move on to something altogether different.

[awakeningmom]

Posted by kemo (here)
150 people are dead. Smashed on a mountain slope Including about 20 kids. And the armchair conspiracy theorists have nothing better to do than immediately start weaving into their own little tapestry of pet theories based on no hard information. Practically every damn incident these days gets labelled as a false flag of some sort. Makes me sick.

Unfortunately, once you realize that 911 was a false flag, with 3000 plus people dead, it is hard to trust the mainstream media's and/or any politician's rendition of any tragic/traumatic event -- especially when the official story is delivered to the public so fast, without time for a proper investigation. There is no trust in the official narrative anymore, nor should there be. And questioning the official narrative is not disrespectful to the victims in my opinion. What is disrespectful is to allow a false narrative to continue, where those who are perpetuating these atrocities get to position themselves as heroes (e.g., Cheney, Rumsfeld, Giuliani) and laugh behind the scenes as the majority simply lap up their unsubstantiated and illogical versions of what really happened. I would think that the victims' families would rather know the truth. I know I would.

[Slorri]

If we take a look at the two photos they have released of "the" voice recorder we realize that it is not possibly from this crash.
The steel part have old rust on it. Okey, so it might have rusted during the years it was mounted in the plane.
The aluminium parts have no new damages to it.

Whatever it was that beat up this recorder, it was done many years ago.

Maybe they didn't feel like showing us the real recorder? At any rate, they have no credibility.

Investigators Release Photos of Battered 'Black Box'

[Carmody]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
In the words of one of the great rock bands of Canada , Rush , all the world's a stage and we are merely players ... so much of our world is staged for fear , confusion and control ...

Shakespeare: "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages."

As for conspiracies, the first one began somewhere around the time when two male apes lusted after the same female.

And it's evolved into a well honed manipulation tactic over the past thousands of years. Ie, it rose around the time intelligence in the humanoid evolved into being. Some say before, as humanity is not a "natural' race, per se.

[Julian]

Two good articles on the Germanwings crash.

https://willyloman.wordpress.com/201...ogus/#comments

https://willyloman.wordpress.com/201...ng/#more-33816

Combining these observations and the rush by the MSM to demonize the copilot and obscure the missing data card I'd say we have a deliberate false flag. The motive would appear to be sending a chilling message to Germany and France about possible defections from the US position regarding Ukraine specifically and relations with Russia generally.

Rubbing out the Boze Hamilton agent who we an assume was deemed unreliable was the immediate "green light" circumstance they needed.

The CERN connection is interesting but on reflection there are too many disparate pieces that would have to come together.

http://dutchsinse.com/3242015-cern-m...now-postponed/

[cuitlahuac]

Copilot was taking psychiatric medication. Was Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Celesta involved?



Quote:
# Police said they have found evidence of mental illness, but no suicide note at flat he is said to share with girlfriend
# Chemist close to his home confirms he regularly picked up medication but cannot confirm what it was to treat

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sequences.html

[Julian]

Veterans Today has two interesting articles about this event.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/27/350535/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03...-on-the-plane/

[cuitlahuac]

This is worth verifying.

Both the Psychiatric drugs and the "crew able to open the plane door" with a digital key, are very important points in here. The veracity of psychiatric drugs creating suicidal ideation is a fact.

The statement that the door could be opened by the crew from outside the cockpit with a digital key, need verification as well as the satellite phones to ask NORAD to take control of the plane and land it.

If these latter are true, then the fact of a false flag is demonstrated unquestionablly.

By Gordon Duff and Jeff Smith, Editors

In all likelihood, the cabin crew of the ill fated GermanWings flight could simply have entered the cockpit at any time. If the plane were programmed specially to disallow this normal capability of the Airbus320 series, the airline has failed to inform the public of this.

This information is “confidential” as it would be a theoretical aid to hijackers. Problem is, there are no hijackers, only security agencies that seem to enjoy stealing planes, shooting them down or taking control of their guidance systems. The hijack scenario makes for good TV and convenient cover stories where “dead men tell no tales” and crash scenes are always quickly secured and “seeded” as needed.

Our suicide story is just a new twist on an old tale.

In order to add to the explosion of information about the recent air event over France, we have done some simple research on the operation of the cockpit door of an A320. We have published, below, the operations manual. We also have the following language, taken from the flight crew manual used by Royal Jordanian Airlines, an organization kind enough to have passed this on:

Ident.: DSC-25-11-10-00001006.0001001 / 09 OCT 12
Applicable to: MSN 2649-3685, 4670-5367

A forward-opening hinge door separates the cockpit from the passenger compartment. It has three electric locking strikes, controlled by the flight crew. In normal conditions, when the door is closed, they remain locked. When there is a request to enter the cockpit, the flight crew can authorize entry by unlocking the door, that remains closed until it is pushed open.
When the flight crew does not respond to requests for entry, the door can also be unlocked by the cabin crew, by entering a two to seven-digit code (programmed by the airline) on the keypad, installed on the lateral side of the Forward Attendant Panel (FAP).

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/27/350535/

[Morbid]

i personally think that this false flag has been some sort of payback to european countries (most of which share alps by the way) for joining asian infrastructure investment bank.

[Snookie]

Strangely something very similar to this happened last November sans the "suicidal" pilot.

Incident: Lufthansa A321 near Bilbao on Nov 5th 2014, loss of 4000 feet of altitude

http://avherald.com/h?article=47d74074

We need to seriously consider that this was caused due to an autopilot programming defect.

Really easy to blame the co pilot after the fact isn't it? I don't buy that the only thing that could be heard was the co pilot "breathing". What about the warnings that MUST have been going off to beat the band as the plane was heading straight into the mountain?

[Rozzy]

This crash and the scenario being put forth does not seem likely, like so many of the other air incidents of late they all raise questions due to the hokey explanations for these horrific events.

[cuitlahuac]

Discarding False Flags in these times of full intel world war III would be silly.

UPDATE: Cockpit lock out story is a LIE. The manual override that keeps the cockpit door locked only lasts 5 minutes, per TV reports. That would leave 3 to 5 minutes to storm the cockpit and take at least some evasive or corrective action.

A COMPLETELY ALONE Italian fighter jet issued a mayday call one minute before this Airbus went into it's descent while in view of it, and then returned to base. This is documented, but the reason for the mayday call has never been published, and I know why:

Because "SEVERAL" French fighter jets were in the area, on the edge of where this Italian fighter jet was allowed to go, taking over this airbus the second it entered French airspace, AND FOLLOWED IT ALL THE WAY TO THE CRASH SCENE. The Italian turned around after witnessing the remote takeover because he was not authorized to go into French airspace. How do we know this in irrefutable terms? Because witnesses on the ground saw these French fighter jets following this airbus all the way up until it crashed, and after the crash was a confirmed reality THEY BUGGED OUT RATHER THAN STAY AROUND AND ASSESS THE SITUATION.

The fact that these fighter jets got expunged from the ziopress SAYS IT ALL, but the Ziopress did the cleanup too late, people got screenshots of the news reports both before and after this, and these screenshots are below, on this page.

I think the plane was hacked. Brought down. A poison gas canister attached to the air system and triggered by the "seat belts" signal when the plane reached altitude. And exactly 30 minutes later, the engines were shut down. Either by programming or by remote control. And the computer flies the plane perfectly, like a glider in an 8 minute descent, right into an Alp.

I think looking at the passenger list could be very informative. This looks like a hit. A major hit, at the level of nation-states or the largest criminal cartels. Or a worldwide group of fanatics. So, who was on this flight?

Don't expect an honest answer. There are no honest governments."

http://82.221.129.208/a320crash.html

[Cardillac]

finally!- I knew it wouldn't take long until Farrell addressed this issue-

according to the newest reports in German MSM they 'found' (source of finding was not stated) a 'shaky' video filming the the last seconds of people banging on the cockpit door (give us a break) to allow the pilot/flight attendants access to the barred cockpit; according to German MSM an indestructible black box was 'damaged' but a fragile video remained completely intact?!-

anyway, here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXc7W2mQTUg

please be well all-

Larry in Germany