The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[Omni]

Posted by URIKORN (here)

Posted by Omniverse (here)
UNIKORN, what do you have to say about this post?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post950870

Corey states he has no memories of being a MILAB. Then on his blog he states they were not recovered memories. At first I thought Corey was a mind controlled asset of the military industrial complex, now I see it as quite possible he is a complicit disinformation agent.

Corey attacked me, maybe you do not know that unikorn. I was told telepathically that there would be a reaction to publishing so much sensitive info on my blog. Not long after Corey comes out saying I'm an AI prophet, and turned a lot of avalonians against me.

You are supporting a psy op. In the coming years when these blue avians have done nothing, it will become more evident. But you will have probably moved onto the next unverifiable psy op by then, and ignored the history lesson of the Blue Avian psy op.

If I am supporting a psy op, than i am doing it without being aware of the fact.
I only have my specific starting point.
You may be absolutely right, partly right or totally wrong.
I do not have the time nor the inclination to start and investigate every assertion and rationale.
I follow my heart (as Don Juan adviced Castaneda) and learn as I go along.
I have courage, an opened mind, and a long life experience of my weaknesses.
Let go.

In other words you will ignore the evidence Corey is lying.

Following the heart is fine, but not when it defies sound logic. You refuse to read the post I linked?

Basically you are saying you read something and deny investigating if it is true before you start promoting it.

In the post I linked there is proof Corey is deceptive... Take it or leave it. Maybe you just want to see what you would like to...

[URIKORN]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by bsbray (here)
[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]

Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!

Are you aware that good manipulators know fair well how to split people's friendships.
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?
Just a possibility to consider.

[Omni]

Posted by URIKORN (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by bsbray (here)
[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]

Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!

Are you aware that good manipulators know fair well how to split people's friendships.
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?
Just a possibility to consider.

Corey lied about me directly. So I know he lies, exaggerates, embellishes, etc. You are obviously programmed by the psy op, perhaps even mind controlled yourself, since they do mind control some people to support their psy ops... You are obviously seeing what you would like to see with everything related. And ignoring anything that shows your beliefs as wrong. You refuse to look at new information about Corey... Not sure what else to say other than enjoy the psy op. Hopefully the false hope it brings, will bring you solace...

[URIKORN]

O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

And because I am simple, and becoming simpler every day, it is not
easy to manipulate me, to intimidate me, to confuse me.
I use the conscious art of knowing when I don't know.
I use the conscious art of stopping all thoughts.
I worked hard, with intent, to stop falling prey to the
various forces that belittle man.
I reached the land of simplicity, and in this land I grow now.
I belong to no group, I have no master to obey.
Just the call of the heart.
Is it not what you all are talking about all the time ?

[Hervé]

Posted by URIKORN (here)

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by bsbray (here)
[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]

Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!

Are you aware that good manipulators know fair well how to split people's friendships.
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?
Just a possibility to consider.

What does the word "confirmation" mean to you?

[Flash]

Posted by URIKORN (here)
O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

If simple, then why does it seem to be arrogant?

we are not all anxious
we are not all tight (on the contrary)
we are not all with unbriddle imagination

You know, when someone write something about others, or say something at others about who they supposedly are, I have taken the habit of listening with wide ears and asking first to myself: is the writer/talker talking about himself, is he projecting?

Then I analyse to see which one has the caracteristics described. Usually they are owned by the writer/talker - with sometimes one exception or two.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by URIKORN (here)
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?

In my case he also began spreading rumors about me, and in the process he was saying things that were obviously not true and it seemed to me that he was making them up off the top of his head. He was banned from this forum for starting drama, and I was still posting things here that he didn't like so he started trying to get drama started with me the exact same way I believe he did with the previous person.

As far as this other person, I was one of two people (that I know of) sent all of the conversation logs where the whole thing unfolded from the beginning to the end. I only read enough to get the basic point as it was a lot of stuff, but it was obvious enough what was going on. Corey knew that making the accusations himself would expose him to legal problems, and admitted as much, so he then got someone else to take the accusations to a third party known to be very unstable, and everything blew up from there. But he never said anything on the open forums about it. So without talking to the people who were tricked into all of this, it would seem Corey had nothing to do with any of it. It was only after all of it boiled over that it became apparent what had happened, especially after Corey was so proud of being acknowledged by the same person he had been saying the terrible things about in the first place. It just makes no sense in any other context but to have been meant as a fictitious and malicious attack on another person's character.

I don't like talking about this kind of "he said she said" stuff, but the reason I don't like talking about it is because rumors and gossip and all of this reflects a person's character. In this case it also reflects upon the character of someone claiming to be a whistleblower and ET contactee, who has nothing to back up his story but his own word. If all of this is an indicator of the character of the person who is asking us to trust him at his word, then obviously there is a problem to consider.

As Omni points out above, there are also inconsistencies in his story as far as how he remembers these things. There is just too many red flags here and it would be more worth our time to approach the secret space program (which I do believe exists) from other angles, of which there are many.

[URIKORN]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by URIKORN (here)
O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

If simple, then why does it seem to be arrogant?

we are not all anxious
we are not all tight (on the contrary)
we are not all with unbriddle imagination

You know, when someone write something about others, or say something at others about who they supposedly are, I have taken the habit of listening with wide ears and asking first to myself: is the writer/talker talking about himself, is he projecting?

Then I analyse to see which one has the caracteristics described. Usually they are owned by the writer/talker - with sometimes one exception or two.

Yes I am arrogant. But with a good heart, glad with other people's success, easily acknowledging better man than me.
But in the face of X I stress my arrogant side. Why not.
Are you aware that the lot of you judge me and analyse me from the start ?
So maybe your analysis befits that lot.

There was something I added to the 4 lines:

And because I am simple, and becoming simpler every day, it is not
easy to manipulate me, to intimidate me, to confuse me.
I use the conscious art of knowing when I don't know.
I use the conscious art of stopping all thoughts.
I worked hard, with intent, to stop falling prey to the
various forces that belittle man.
I reached the land of simplicity, and in this land I grow now.
I belong to no group, I have no master to obey.
Just the call of the heart.
Is it not what you all are talking about all the time ?

[Sierra]

Posted by Flash (here)
Sierra

why not allow Unikorn to do his postings, alone, with no members comments almost, since there is not flexibilities in commenting or argumenting about Corey's input. So he will be contempt about giving the information and those who want it can get it and get deluded if others think it is what is happening.

This will be very similar to Chris Thomas thread. As Turiya reject vehemently and sometimes nastily any comment that could be negative or only argumentative about Chris Thomas, his thread ended up being an information thread about Chris when he does new interviews etc. He gave some comparisons that were worthwhile as well. And anytime a new poster comes in to debate about Chris thomas, his head is bitten off and he withdraw.

The same thing will happen with this thread, I think, if we let it go.

But hey, I am not a moderator and do not have the back office stories, so up to you the good team.

Well, no. Chris Thomas is a channeler, in the channeling section, and members are informed.

Corey is a liar. He is programmed to say bad things.

The Buddhists say the source of harm in the world is ignorance. Alternate words could be delusion, illusion, Maya. And now we can add mind control to that list.

Another aspect of the situation is the damaging lies Corey spoke directly about Avalon members. In front of our eyes. Not just Bill. And not just Avalon. I see a pattern here.

Tell you what Flash, I'll preface my future posts on Corey, with "mod hat off", that this is my opinion alone, with only my own thoughts, with only my research, with attributions and source.

...

[URIKORN]

Look at the whole Corey Goode's story from another angle.
Suppose for a minute that his story is real and true in the basics.
Suppose that this is indeed a breakthrough in the level and depth of the unmasking of the HIDDEN HANDS.
How much effort do you think will the CABAL invest in order to smear him and block to the maximum
a clean entrance of such material into the minds of thinking men and women ?
This may include, for example, psychic attacks against him and others, focused infiltration, etc.
The whole shtick.
It is not impossible that Avalon, in general, fell prey to such an aggressive manipulative act.
If that is true then' too, it is likely that some of the members in Avalon are agents of the enemy.
(I guess this last suggestion is clear to you without my offering it.)

[A Voice from the Mountains]

It wouldn't be a "breakthrough in the level and depth of the unmasking of the hidden hands" just because Corey isn't the first person to say the type of things that he is. There are plenty of other researchers and whistleblowers that have been around for years already, they just aren't hiring agents and signing up for a TV series like Corey is. In other words they just aren't as prominent because they're not seeking public recognition and fame.

I take Randy Cramer more seriously. Still not sure what to make of everything he says but at least he seems to be a much more level-headed individual and not trying to always stay in the public eye, and not spreading rumors about people and getting extremely irate when people question his material.

If you go back to earlier generations you had people working with Howard Hughes and others talking about the secret space program of the 60's and 70's. So there is a lot, I mean a LOT of material already out there.

[Flash]

First, i never really paid attention to you before today.

So my views were not for a lot of others.

Second, if you just behave on the call of the heart, why don't you show it everywhere you go.

Arrogance and heart filled behavior seem to be contrary to each other in my views.

But arrongance can be spiritual arrogance as well, spiritual ego. Which is still ego based behavior.

I do not find you simple at all.

And i see full of denial of whom you truly are.

To many I in your last post. Wisdom seems absent.

i am retiring from this thread. Corey does not really interest me anyhow.

Posted by URIKORN (here)

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by URIKORN (here)
O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

If simple, then why does it seem to be arrogant?

we are not all anxious
we are not all tight (on the contrary)
we are not all with unbriddle imagination

You know, when someone write something about others, or say something at others about who they supposedly are, I have taken the habit of listening with wide ears and asking first to myself: is the writer/talker talking about himself, is he projecting?

Then I analyse to see which one has the caracteristics described. Usually they are owned by the writer/talker - with sometimes one exception or two.

Yes I am arrogant. But with a good heart, glad with other people's success, easily acknowledging better man than me.
But in the face of X I stress my arrogant side. Why not.
Are you aware that the lot of you judge me and analyse me from the start ?
So maybe your analysis befits that lot.

There was something I added to the 4 lines:

And because I am simple, and becoming simpler every day, it is not
easy to manipulate me, to intimidate me, to confuse me.
I use the conscious art of knowing when I don't know.
I use the conscious art of stopping all thoughts.
I worked hard, with intent, to stop falling prey to the
various forces that belittle man.
I reached the land of simplicity, and in this land I grow now.
I belong to no group, I have no master to obey.
Just the call of the heart.
Is it not what you all are talking about all the time ?

[Sierra]

Posted by URIKORN (here)
Look at the whole Corey Goode's story from another angle.
Suppose for a minute that his story is real and true in the basics.
Suppose that this is indeed a breakthrough in the level and depth of the unmasking of the HIDDEN HANDS.
How much effort do you think will the CABAL invest in order to smear him and block to the maximum
a clean entrance of such material into the minds of thinking men and women ?
This may include, for example, psychic attacks against him and others, focused infiltration, etc.
The whole shtick.
It is not impossible that Avalon, in general, fell prey to such an aggressive manipulative act.
If that is true then' too, it is likely that some of the members in Avalon are agents of the enemy.
(I guess this last suggestion is clear to you without my offering it.)

Whups... Update time:
Mod hat off. My .02. My apologies Flash.


Oh my. And you've been here how long to have read, thought, analyzed, and reached these conclusions about Avalon?

Why are you here then?

You really do sound like a troll, you know.

[URIKORN]

Since I know I am no troll (at least one fact I am sure about)
It leaves me with an option that you are one.
Or maybe you are that modern being called: thinking man

It stands to reason that Avalon should have its own quanta of trolls
to try and minimize its damages to the ruling class. Is it not ?

[ThePythonicCow]

How to prove that a forum is censored:

1. Join the forum.
2. Be a divisive jerk.
3. Get banned.
4. Use that as proof that the forum is censored.

[Omni]

Posted by URIKORN (here)
Since I know I am no troll (at least one fact I am sure about)
It leaves me with an option that you are one.
Or maybe you are that modern being called: thinking man

It stands to reason that Avalon should have its own quanta of trolls
to try and minimize its damages to the ruling class. Is it not ?

Mostly they get banned pretty quick. The agenda is spotted pretty quick. Avalon isn't like other forums in this regard where the staff have to wait for trolls to break the rules. They just get shown the exit here.

If anyone is an agent of the agenda in this thread I think it is you. You are the one posting psy ops to Avalon, then ignoring all evidence people present to you pointing to an alternate conclusion.

I suggest you are in contact with corey, and he is happy you are promoting his material on Avalon. I would say it is above 50% chance you are in contact with corey. Above 10% chance you have an account on tot, and have an agenda on avalon. And so on.

Calling admin here a potential troll wont get you far.... The staff here have a good sniffer for trolls

[Flash]

yes, then go on TOT crying that you have been banned too

Have TOT members (some of whom I hold in great esteem by the way) hush hush you

With no discernenment about what happened in the other forum

And then feel like a savior rambo

Gosh, what a sick mind, i have no other words. I am sorry for some of the TOT good and balanced members.

Posted by Paul (here)
How to prove that a forum is censored:

1. Join the forum.
2. Be a divisive jerk.
3. Get banned.
4. Use that as proof that the forum is censored.

[Sierra]

Posted by bsbray (here)
As Omni points out above, there are also inconsistencies in his story as far as how he remembers these things. There is just too many red flags here and it would be more worth our time to approach the secret space program (which I do believe exists) from other angles, of which there are many.

Hear, hear.

Likewise.

I think that is a logical assumption.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by bsbray (here)
I don't think Sierra is trying to be the thought police, Urikorn. Maybe you are new to following individuals like David Wilcock and Corey Goode, but after so many years of these kinds of characters, anyone would become very jaded with them.

I was recently reviewing an old thread here about past predictions Wilcock had made that didn't come to pass. He was saying that Saddam Hussein was going to be the anti-christ discussed in Christian apocalyptic literature, that the year 2000 was going to be "the ascension," whatever that was, and that we should prepare for how awesome it would be. He predicted that Obama was going to publicly disclose ET presence in 2010, with a 2-hour television appearance during prime time. These are just a few things off the top of my head. There was also the Neil Keenan affair which I am not very familiar with myself, but I understand that through that, Wilcock helped to bankrupt at least one person who bought into it.

As far as Corey goes, the face he presents to the public and the one he demonstrates in private are often two completely different faces, though his "private face" has emerged on the open forums before, which is why he was banned here. If he really was in any kind of covert military program it was probably related to Project Bluebird, which is to say he was probably programmed with multiple personalities and even to "go public" just to infiltrate alternative communities and cause chaos. That would be my best guess. I have the same feeling about people such as Gordon Duff and Alex Jones, even if they are not programmed, because all they are doing is setting up the alternative community for embarrassment.

I have come to be extra careful about listening to rumors when they are going around about people as well, from dealing indirectly with Corey. There were some pretty nasty rumors going around about another person claiming contact with ET beings, a certain councilor, and I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless. He had nothing good to say about this person until said person mentioned Blue Avians at some point, and then Corey was very proud of himself and was bragging about the confirmation on his blog. Proud of the endorsement of someone who he had just been spreading terrible rumors about. He also spread rumors about me personally on another forum that you are familiar with, Urikorn, which I know for a fact were baseless, and frankly were ridiculous. He spreads rumors about people and starts drama in private channels because he sows discord, and he targets people who criticize him first. Sowing discord within the alternative community is something that would interest certain parties, I should mention.

It's just a matter of time before this whole thing blows up once again in DW's face. And he will just stop mentioning Corey, remove related material from his site and you'll never hear it again from him. That's been David's modus operandi for over 15 years now.

Thanks for this. I've only just read this important post of yours, and would like to bump the entire thing.

[Harley]

HeadachesRMe

(I'm serious)