The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[Jake]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by MalteseKnight (here)
Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Some of David Wilcock's past works on a scientific bent do have validity.

Hopefully no one said otherwise .

Indeed! I said this about him just the other day

Posted by Jake (here)
Thanks, Matt. Good points! Awesome that you present an opportunity for some balance.. DW will be quite 'matter of fact' when he refers to reincarnation. He himself believes that he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.. I wish he would get back to the business of matters related to the unfolding science of consciousness... THAT is where he shines brightest, IMHO. His strength and quality when talking about those things are 100 times more natural and from the heart, quite geniune.. I haven't felt that from him since he made the transition from 'inspiration' to -information... Inspiration is an experiential, 'human' endeavor which requires nurturing a relationship.. INFORMATION does not have that sort of traction when there exists an 'I tell you, you listen' approach.. The unfolding science of consciousness is where we are going to impact our futures..

In my view, EVERYONE can experience, learn, and become part of an amazing future through the understanding of self and consciousness... (ive heard DW say it himself... ) The David that we see today is caught up in something quite different,, something that has reeaally taken away from the path of personal sovereignty for all.

This is just mee opinion.. I grabbed mee copy of The Source Field Investigation and read it again this last couple of days.. I reeally miss that DW...

Jake

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[Shadowself]

That "dead link post" contained this with some editing of personal information which I have edited out. Some I will leave to show the severity of what I have been through to understand this is no joking matter and the Blue Avians better come up with something better than Corey can imagine! Damn it!

Here it is as Sierra wished to be posted:

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"Recovered memories, intellectual honesty, and how we present our stories"

Wow...what a title!

...how we present our stories....

I have something to say about this. As I believe I've said before here I've lost three loved ones due to all of this recovered memory..and along the way I discovered somethings.

Things are not always what they seem. I've been lied to. I've been toyed with. In this process of discovery I remained resolute to find out the damned truth! No matter what was presented to me. I've gone out on a limb to investigate what EXACTLY the truth is no matter how hard it was to accept. That would include my own personal mistakes in judgement. Believe me when I say there were plenty of those! But I simply had to find more out. Who knew what and why...no matter how strange it may seem. That would include contacting people who have been in the limelight as those of "experience". Man was I disappointed to discover the truth about several of them! Many times it was just a dead end....nothing to see here...move along!

let's call it a journey for a moment....On the street of "What if".



What if I'd not perused this? Would my son still be alive? My husband? What if I was never born. My husband would still be alive?

My birth?

...Oh how I wish on the street of what if!

Here on the street of What If, I figured it’s time to check the balance of my hard earned savings. Around the corner is the Bank of Hopes and Dreams!

My biggest hope and dream is for this to be over. My biggest fear by far is to end up on a lab table and lose my two remaining sons!

What if I'd just kept my mouth shut! Would they still be alive?

Given this there are things I cannot take back. There are things I cannot and will not talk about. People around me have witnessed things. I've pursued things and discovered some of those memories were far from true!

Some of the things I've remembered in memory recall I know for a FACT were not me remembering!

However many things have actually panned out and made sense. In all of this I worked hard to keep my sanity. I've learned to be very cautious.

One thing I would under NO CIRCUMSTANCE do is a public interview. No matter what anybody says....if you have certain information that can be verified they watch you very carefully. You will in fact be in danger. At the very least threatened and your family in danger if you have any real value to them.

"They" are not going to let you speak of things that can be verified. Because if you do they will and can deny it, destroy the information or destroy you or your family if you still have some value.

Do you honestly believe they are not aware of Memory Recall? What do you suppose they have in place for that? A valid question no?

I have a concern here. Some of us here have severe PTSD. Milabs are nothing to fool around with. Suffering severe trauma and survived it! Most people could not! Being a survivor is to be commended.

But let me ask you a question. After some of the things I've shared here so far would you come to me for counseling? Do you think I'm qualified to do that? Given the fact that I'm still going through the mill so to speak?

Being a milab victim is tricky stuff. Just to survive you need to cope with day to day living. If I were to tell you I needed to take a 2 meg Xanax just to talk about my personal experience would you seek me for counseling?

My concern is a member that was here is doing just that. I was shocked to see this and think if there are any REAL Milab victims getting council from him this is a GREAT concern.

Because he has express here that he had to take a 2 meg Xanax to speak of the now infamous "entity attachments" which also would explain his reaction to that very subject.

(more dead link)

Mind you I greatly sympathize and am not demeaning his story by any means, but would he be suitable for counseling after reading this? What would Freud say?

Most good counselors would learn to resolve a situation instead of inflate it. they would be able to confront and not wig out with some kind of skill. A counselor most often has a good foundation to be able to deal with adversity.

I've not seen any of that from him. He's up one minute and down the next. Common for a milab. But not a counselor.

He has expressed here on the forum and again on his new blog that that is what he is doing and I think he is the least qualified to do this. In fact this shocks me. Particularly after reading that post I just linked.

Now I try to be as level headed and grounded as possible given my personal circumstance. I've been very successful raising three good sons. They have made me very proud. Growing up they have never had to want for anything and I raised them with great care and protection. They tell me I'm a great mom so I guess the proof is in the pudding and they are all doing well in their personal lives and are successful with their goals. Except one of them is dead!

Would I make a good counselor for Milabs? Absolutely NOT!

Would I EVER do an interview with Bill or Cory? Again Absolutely NOT!

Do you think I want another dead son?

But apparently Cory thinks I will. He's even asked an individual if there were some way to disguise my voice. That I told him personally I would consider it.

I did no such thing. I wasn't even sure I wanted to join this forum until he got Bill to contact me and invite me with reassurance that what goes here STAYS HERE.

The fact is I will not tell everything here or anywhere else. Some things I will discuss...but I would never in a million years give an interview.

Now Cory seems like a nice enough guy. He has a story to tell and you've all listened. I'm not so certain about those memories however and after reading some of his stuff, he might think I myself am AI controlled and an enemy of the state. If I showed you why it might just blow your mind. There's a big difference between nano tech and AI.


.....(removed personal information)

Anybody ready for that counseling session yet? I'm available...NOT!

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Now of course I removed some rather personal information I would prefer not to publicly post...not yet anyway.

[Elainie]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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This comment was written on Bradley Love's blog a month ago, by our very own Avalon member Omniverse.

Could he or The Ruiner maybe say more here, to explain what "on the payroll" means? This is not cheap gossip... it's important for the community to know, if true and if this is not a misunderstanding or an accidental distortion.

Theruiner is a friend of mine. He sent me a screenshot of a conversation between him and Mr. Goode where Corey said he was on the payroll and “it is what it is.” I’m sure theruiner would send you it if you emailed him.

I saw that as well (Shane sent it to me via skype) so I can verify that Corey did indeed write that via skype.

[Shadowself]

Posted by ERK (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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This comment was written on Bradley Love's blog a month ago, by our very own Avalon member Omniverse.

Could he or The Ruiner maybe say more here, to explain what "on the payroll" means? This is not cheap gossip... it's important for the community to know, if true and if this is not a misunderstanding or an accidental distortion.

Theruiner is a friend of mine. He sent me a screenshot of a conversation between him and Mr. Goode where Corey said he was on the payroll and “it is what it is.” I’m sure theruiner would send you it if you emailed him.

I saw that as well (Shane sent it to me via skype) so I can verify that Corey did indeed write that via skype.

Yes...I've seen something along these lines myself. However the source I saw if from was Corey and possibly edited then promptly removed from public scrutiny. But yes payroll was definitely mentioned.

However at these prices (whew!) I don't think he'll have to worry about the payroll (to pay the rent) much longer if this nonsense takes hold!

http://www.zazzle.com/spherebeingalliance

Geez! A 22.95 deck of cards! Are you kidding me?

[Shane]

It was Corey who started saying I told him I was on "the payroll". Clearly misunderstanding what I said (which is discussed exactly as it happened on my blog for the record) and he also showed edited skype logs in text form, which is why I am willing to show the screenshot. It's much easier to verify the authenticity of a screenshot than text files from skype.

If he had not done as he did, I never would have showed anyone. For those paying attention it was him who started "calling me out" and contacting others to insult me and attempt to discredit me (not bothered by this). I have not reached out to others to do so to him, but if I am asked, I am not going to lie about it.

With love and respect,

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Shane (here)

which is why I am willing to show the screenshot. It's much easier to verify the authenticity of a screenshot than text files from skype.

I have a copy. May I post it here?

[Shane]

For the record I do not like this. This is exactly why I asked him to stop so long ago. Also I would like to state, I am not (which I know for sure) and I do not believe he is "on the payroll".

It is yours Bill. You are welcome to do as you want with it.

With love and respect,

[Shadowself]

Posted by Shane (here)
For the record I do not like this. This is exactly why I asked him to stop so long ago. Also I would like to state, I am not (which I know for sure) and I do not believe he is "on the payroll".

It is yours Bill. You are welcome to do as you want with it.

With love and respect,

Yes, I saw that and he clearly makes an assumption on your behalf.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Shane (here)
For the record I do not like this. This is exactly why I asked him to stop so long ago. Also I would like to state, I am not (which I know for sure) and I do not believe he is "on the payroll".

It is yours Bill. You are welcome to do as you want with it.

With love and respect,

Many thanks, and fully understood. So I share this, for what it may be, all caveats noted, as a real artifact in the real world.

I totally believe you're not on any payroll, and I've never seen or heard anything to the contrary. Corey may have been embellishing things (unwisely!), as he does do quite frequently.

But in his words, "it is what it is". It seems that this has been doing the rounds behind the scenes for quite a while. I wasn't in the loop about this until yesterday! And I was just sent this this morning.

As far as I can gather, quite a few people already have copies. As others have expressed on this thread, and I think you agree, I too would far rather have everything out in the open. At least then all this can be laid to rest, and we can move on to more positive, important and constructive subjects. (Notably: things that affect us all in practical terms and make a difference to the planet. (This one!))

[Shadowself]

Shane,


Don't feel like the lone ranger here. Corey has said some interesting LIES about me as well. Here are some:

She was Born on an Off Planet Naval Base...
k, one of the people Shadowself was in a very thought out and secure group like this that was infiltrated by "Metamorphs" and then they set off "Triggers" and caused infighting and destroyed the group. She said it was a real mess. It had the potential to help hundreds of people and ended up getting completely infiltrated and destroyed, and the metamorphs reported the names up the chain and some of the MILABs she never heard from again.

The guy she did the group with had a big ego and was convinced he coudl sniff out any fake or infiltrator... and it didn't work out that way for them anyway.

She still has most of the group info and setup on a external HD.

Since she has had a very serious group like this prior and tried to help MILABs that did end up getting infiltrated and of course all the "Damaged" personalities are going to be hard to manage/moderate as well. Her perspective would probably be very valuable.

What! I NEVER SAID ANY OF THAT! EVER!!!

[Shane]

Cheers Shadowself,

I am well aware I am not the only one. There are many of us lol

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Shadowself (here)
Shane,

Don't feel like the lone ranger here. Corey has said some interesting LIES about me as well. Here are some:

She was Born on an Off Planet Naval Base...
k, one of the people Shadowself was in a very thought out and secure group like this that was infiltrated by "Metamorphs" and then they set off "Triggers" and caused infighting and destroyed the group. She said it was a real mess. It had the potential to help hundreds of people and ended up getting completely infiltrated and destroyed, and the metamorphs reported the names up the chain and some of the MILABs she never heard from again.

The guy she did the group with had a big ego and was convinced he coudl sniff out any fake or infiltrator... and it didn't work out that way for them anyway.

She still has most of the group info and setup on a external HD.

Since she has had a very serious group like this prior and tried to help MILABs that did end up getting infiltrated and of course all the "Damaged" personalities are going to be hard to manage/moderate as well. Her perspective would probably be very valuable.

What! I NEVER SAID ANY OF THAT! EVER!!!

The exact above was sent to me by Corey (about Shadowself, who at that point I had never communicated with), on Skype on 22 October, 28 October, and 28 November 2014 (three different conversations). I have screenshots of those, too.

On 21 December,, I made contact with Shadowself myself and (gently) ran this by her. She was outraged. She told me in no uncertain terms that she had not said ANY of that, had never Skyped him, not once, and that Corey had wildly embellished and/or invented everything.

[Shadowself]

I'm glad you added that Bill...now I can add this part:

I have also talked one other person that (Dont hold me to it) MAY come forward and let you or I interview them if they are anonymous and voice can be changed. I told them you have sophisticated Audio SW and probably could do that. It is that lady who I sent you the partial email/info on. She is kicking around the idea, but has some serious info and insider info with Names/Dates that have some goode punch to the story and are accurate. just an FYI.

As you know by my post above I was never interested in doing ANY interview for the reasons I've stated. He NEVER discussed any of this with me about doing any interview let alone voice changing audio nonsense!

[qbeac]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Shane (here)
For the record I do not like this. This is exactly why I asked him to stop so long ago. Also I would like to state, I am not (which I know for sure) and I do not believe he is "on the payroll".

It is yours Bill. You are welcome to do as you want with it.

With love and respect,

Many thanks, and fully understood. So I share this, for what it may be, all caveats noted, as a real artifact in the real world…………..etc.

Hi Bill and everyone else,

That screenshot is interesting (“on the payroll”… etc.), but I’d also like to hear Corey’s point of view about it:

What does Corey has to say about that screenshot (the “payroll”)?

For instance:

Is that screenshot real or fake? Is he really the one saying he is “on the payroll”, or perhaps somebody else impersonating Corey to discredit him? What is the context of that conversation (when, where, how, who, etc.)? Who was Corey talking to? Was Corey joking about the “payroll”? What payroll are they talking about: his employer payroll, the government payroll, the black-ops payroll, the good ETs payroll…???

In summary:

If anybody accuses another person, the accuser should present the best evidence available to back up the accusation, and put it on the table so that we all can see it.

And “also”, let the other person defend himself/herself, just in case it was a false accusation to begin with, or a mistake, or a misunderstanding, etc.

That’s my suggestion to you all (Bill and other Avalon forum users who are accusing Corey of not being honest):

Please, gather the best evidence you have, put it on the table (make it visible to everyone), let Corey defend himself, and let the rest of us hear “both” parties, not just one.

And if you could do that in an open debate face to face (Ex: by Skype or in person) and publish the video in YouTube (or whatever), that would be better than having a debate just in plain text (like now in this forum) because videos have several advantages:

Videos usually offer many more details in order for people to be able to discern who is telling the truth or lying (Ex: body language, tone of voice, behaviour, etc.), and videos are usually viewed by a much wider audience than an Internet forum.

Finally, in my opinion, the alternative community has the responsibility of searching for the truth, whatever it may be. So let’s do it.

[araucaria]

qbeac, in case you hadn’t noticed, Corey has left the forum. Does that mean we shouldn’t be talking about him at all because he cannot respond? Not necessarily (are we allowed to say anything dismissive of anyone?); again, in case you hadn’t noticed, most of the forum would rather be talking about other things, but unfortunately some members keep turning this back on the forum and Bill. Bill, as he said, has been sitting on his hands for long enough until he finally had to say something.

Here’s a suggestion: why don’t you do your own research yourself; go and ask Corey yourself and believe him if you will despite the many lies members have been reporting here. If you prefer to take a disgraced former member’s word against the forum founder’s and that of other respected members, then you do not belong here and you are trolling. Please desist, we have all had enough of this.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by araucaria (here)
qbeac, in case you hadn’t noticed, Corey has left the forum. Does that mean we shouldn’t be talking about him at all because he cannot respond? Not necessarily (are we allowed to say anything dismissive of anyone?); again, in case you hadn’t noticed, most of the forum would rather be talking about other things, but unfortunately some members keep turning this back on the forum and Bill. Bill, as he said, has been sitting on his hands for long enough until he finally had to say something.

Here’s a suggestion: why don’t you do your own research yourself; go and ask Corey yourself and believe him if you will despite the many lies members have been reporting here. If you prefer to take a disgraced former member’s word against the forum founder’s and that of other respected members, then you do not belong here and you are trolling. Please desist, we have all had enough of this.

You read my mind, araucaria. qbeac is a new name to me. I ran a search and learned why. It’s been three years since his last post on July 12, 2012. qbeac signed up April 1st, 2010. To my way of thinking, he’s been gone longer than he was around.

[araucaria]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
You read my mind, araucaria. qbeac is a new name to me. I ran a search and learned why. It’s been three years since his last post on July 12, 2012. qbeac signed up April 1st, 2010. To my way of thinking, he’s been gone longer than he was around.

Apart, that is, from two posts on this thread – no larking about on feelgood threads, that’s for sure.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post984195
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post984271

[RunningDeer]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
You read my mind, araucaria. qbeac is a new name to me. I ran a search and learned why. It’s been three years since his last post on July 12, 2012. qbeac signed up April 1st, 2010. To my way of thinking, he’s been gone longer than he was around.

Apart, that is, from two posts on this thread – no larking about on feelgood threads, that’s for sure.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post984195
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post984271

Yes, 'transparent' came to mind when I ran a search a couple of days back. qbeac's second post confirmed it.

[Shadowself]

You know, I have company coming over here soon and won't give this another single thought.

But as I stated in the post above:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post984499

I mentioned my kids never had to want for anything because I provided for them quite well.

This really has to do with the kind of dangers and effect he has on REAL Milab victims. That kind of influence can be dangerous. Period! He has used people (such as myself) to gain favor with Bill. Then when the heat got turned on he bolted/had a melt down from here he landed somewhere else. Until he could gain foothold and is where he is today. Selling luggage tags!

He doesn't care about other Milab victims and he uses them to his own advantage.

Does he lie? Absolutely.

This guy has NEVER earned a six figure income. I know this because I earned a six figure income for 20 years.

The first thing you do when you've earned a six figure income is learn NOT TO THROW YOUR MONEY AWAY on landlords and/or rent.

Now yes I could have made this up...but I didn't and this was posted by him on another forum.



Now mind you I would never have given this guy a thought if he had not USED me to get to Bill.

So I've been watching him and several times have caught him outright lying.

He has never had a six figure income because when you make that kind of money the first thing you do is buy a home for several reasons. Most importantly TAXES!

In my 20 years I bought two properties. The first was a condo I lived in for a while until I decided to purchase a house so my son could play his drums without disturbing the neighbors.

I worked for a company that had several offices in Texas and several times thought about transferring there because you could buy a house twice as nice as in California (where I lived) and pay less taxes. EVERY year I paid out $6700.00 a year for just one property tax...paid off in part by the tax return for interest you write off on the mortgage! I also paid $1700.00 a month on the condo /rental property tax AND I claimed that rental property as income.

Bottom line you don't throw away money on RENT when you make a six figure income. That is ABSURD!!! Ask anybody that earns a six figure income!

Anybody that believes this guy made a six figure income has never experienced making that kind of money. I have and for 20 years I did and he is lying about that period.


I'll say it again. Shame on you David and Corey for perpetrating this lie.

[Sierra]

Shadowself,

Thank you

To back up what you've said about Corey's supposedly six figure salary: I've read the descriptions of what Corey did in his job. It was a description (at least in all the Insurance IT departments I worked at in California) first and lowest IT support tier. We're talking walking from computer to computer or server to server, shoving a disk (either created in house or an off the shelf purchase) in, and typing at the prompt, the executable file name. Wait. Done. Remove disk and proceed to the next machine to be updated. Insert disk and repeat. IF a cheat sheet was passed out with the disk, it would say something similar to:
1. Insert disk
2. At prompt, type: drive letter and fileName.exe
3. Check directory for newly installed files
A. Does their install date match the day the files were installed?
B. Do the file sizes match the file sizes in the install disk or image?

In California, the salary range would be 20,000 to 35,000 a year, in most companies (as of ten years ago). To get up to 100,000 plus salary, you have to be either an IT manager ( mostly grossly political, and industry ignorant) or fourth tier programmers, usually 3 or 4 people in an IT population of 400.