Massive explosions in Tianjin and Shandong, China

[idiit]

^ I sincerely hope so.

pretty extreme coincidence though considering the latest yuan devaluations, brics alliance moving swiftly to physical gold backed global currency.

without the ability to virtually create trillion$ out of thin air the cabal's bite loses its teeth.

what happens to the funding of ssp like projects? no reference to corey. they do exist. his specific story is lacking credibility atm.

that drone footage is pretty revealing.

edited to add: numerous articles out stating the cabal needs wwIII.

[Carmody]

It can be an entirely conventional chemical based explosion, but also be a condition, a situation noted, that was preset as a thing to be taken advantage of, if the need, or requirement to do so, was to come along.

Ie, Assets in place..... issue arises.... message sent.

Things of this nature with basically perfected timing in the world of..world affairs.. well. Lets just say there are no coincidences. None anyway, that fit situations so perfectly, especially in a new world of covert war, where the pubic, it's given conditional state and the entire landscape are part of the theater of war.

Not specifically true but undeniably on the table of things that need be considered, as 'definite potential explanations'.

[Selkie]

We are so used to "connecting the dots" that its easy to forget that sometimes the dots only seem to connect, when in reality, they might not be connected at all in a given situation.

[syrwong]

I don't believe a nuclear war starts in 2015 . However mini nukes did seem to have exploded. This explosion in TianJin reminded me of the front cover of the 2015 Economist magazine.



The nuclear explosion in the magazine cover is right below China (in the globe). And China is angry at the West. All arial videos are filmed by drones, and do we see a drone there.

[Selkie]

Posted by Taurean (here)
I suspect the Mishpucka will be burning the midnight oil tonight.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lx6usTIKfM4

Kali Yuga (Devanāgarī: कलियुग [kəli juɡə], lit. "age of [the demon] Kali", or "age of vice") is the last of the four stages the world goes through as part of the cycle of yugas described in the Sanskrit scriptures, within the present Mahayuga. The other ages are called Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, and Dvapara Yuga.

Kali Yuga is associated with the apocalyptic demon Kali

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

I think it might be Kali and Shiva, both. But then, they are one and the same, after all.

[fifula]

I agree with Selkie, we simply dont know yet. Also I dont consider China as 'developing' country that lacks security procedures for handling dangerous shipments anymore. Let's watch coming days as I'm sure there will be some interesting news that may look like linked. Personally, I would not expect any 'explosive' headlines but rather more economic news that may be connected, perhaps considered as 'retaliations' to what happend last night. China and Russia have enough economic instruments at this stage to pull the plug on whoever plotted that incident.

[idiit]

Follow this through, a stronger dollar will decrease our exports and slow our already slow or negative economy. A too strong dollar can actually undermine itself and even kick off a derivatives chain explosion. Our banks and brokers are very thinly capitalized, can they withstand losses in derivatives caused by a currency crisis? Can they withstand the losses from failed counterparties unable to pay? Do you see? A currency crisis “caused” by China could be a calamity

This is where it gets weird or some might say “coincidental”. Did anyone see the explosion at the Chinese port city of Tianjin yesterday? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_92WaPxeqCs “ Yesterday” being one day after China devalued their currency? I am no rocket scientist and cannot say for sure, but does this not look like a nuclear explosion? Can someone out there explain to me in simple terms how a chemical explosion could look like this? As for the word “coincidence”, the CIA says there is no such thing as a coincidence!

Because the financial sparring between East and West may have taken a very serious turn yesterday and I seriously believe a tactical nuke was set off. If this is the case, China will provide proof and they will retaliate. I believe the smoldering stages of what was a financial/technological/trade war have now become hot and the first shot was fired. I truly do ask for comments regarding what happened in Tianjin. Please do not send me opinions, I would like to hear exactly why or why not the explosion was nuclear. I will believe a tactical nuke until someone proves to me it was not.

Did the FINAL WAR Just Start? (Was a Tactical Nuke Just Detonated in Tianjin?)

Posted on August 13, 2015 by The Doc

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http://www.silverdoctors.com/did-the...in/#more-56835

[ghostrider]

I smell ISIS , terror attacks coordinated on the same day ...

[Citizen No2]

Just heard this on the ITV news (UK).

"Nuclear and biological experts are helping to investigate the scene"


Well, well, well.


Regards.

[MorningSong]

Here is an interesting vid of a translated news release translated from the original chinese, fwiw....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aOIbuUWVkjo

[idiit]

the present financial system is hyper-leveraged; accepted as fact by all financial experts.

the derivatives are pretty much undisclosed, unregulated. they are massive; many times larger than global gdp.

jim willie likens them to pylons:

Pylon, a support structure for suspension bridges or highways

the system is vey delicate due to the hyper-leveraging. the pylons are used to support a financial system that would implode on its own without the artificial support system ( derivatives) to temporarily keep it from collapsing under its own weight. any major movement in any of the many and varied financial system's components will immediately cause the domino effect cascade to initiate. once started, no stopping the dramatic collapse. we are talking about the entire global hyper-leveraged financial system built upon the fake foundation of fake money ( fiat currencies created not from collateral based foundation, but rather out of debt created fiat currencies). for the first time in the history of man there is no sovereign nation using real money (collateral based). all sovereign nations use fiat currency based mediums of exchange (fiat currency).

the very recent Chinese currency devaluations have delivered seismic shock waves to the global financial system; initiated a never ending downward spiral of " race to debase". all exporting nations ( manufactured goods, commodities like copper, iron ore, coal, etc...) will have to lower the purchasing power of their nation's fiat currency to keep them competitive price wise.

the financial systems derivatives cannot withstand even small movement. the yuan currency devaluations are seismic 10 shocks.

this is called the "currency wars" in the latest financial articles.

^ this is why the financial experts are tying what happened to china re what looks to possibly be akin to but not exactly a mini-nuke detonation.

edited: most world governments are not "our government; governments that represent the ppl's interests". they are all cabal controlled atm. the cabal had their ability to virtually create trillion$ of the world's global currency ( all international transactions until very recently had to be settled in frn$) threatened. any nation, any leader, any person that threatens the cabal's virtually unlimited purchasing power is dealt with severely. gaddafi ( for example) was disemboweled by a knife up his lower intestines and the action was taped and distributed on the internet. his crime was trying to release a physical gold backed sovereign currency.

[kerbie]

Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
Just heard this on the ITV news (UK).

"Nuclear and biological experts are helping to investigate the scene"


Well, well, well.


Regards.

The Chinese authority are called the Nuclear and Biological experts roughly when translated. They deal with both. They are there because of the biological impacts of many of the chemcials stored in the vicinity of the Tianjin explosion.

I'm a Beijinger and have been privy to lots of the information and misinformation so hopefully I can dispel a lot of the rumours and nonsense surrounding this.

1) It was not a nuclear explosion. Lots of explosions make mushroom clouds and the like. Even the pyro departments on films make these explosions all the time, completely radiation free. The second explosion was caused by more oxygen. The flames from the inital impact didn't have the surface area to burn off the ammount of oxygen needed for the reaction. But the first explosion destroyed lots of buildings and foundations which allowed the chemicals and flames to spread, increase their surface area, absorb more oxygen then BOOM.

2) There's no need to punish China for devaluing the currency. In the long run, it's better for America. Now their dollars will go further when doing business in Asia. Chinese will also have to spend a lot more labour and money to do business with the west. Why punish the chinese for making themselves a little less competitive?

3) The guy that posted to the daily mail about warnings in Beijing wasn't telling the full picture. We have an application here called wechat (best described as a lovechild of facebook and whatsapp). You can instant message you friends on your phone but you can also create groups with strangers and aslo share your memories, thoughts and pictures on a feature called 'moments' which looks a lot like a facebook wall. The warnings about staying indoors and wearing surgical masks were not issued by the government but instead civillians on their 'moments' and in groups with strangers. The government later corrected the rumours saying that the wind was moving south east and taking the fumes out to see. Anyone that bothered to check could have found it out but the scare mongering is more fun.

4) The supercomputer housed near the explosion IS NOT the fastest in the world. It was 5 years ago. China now has a faster and more powerful one hosted far away. This computer wasn't destroyed, just the windows in the massive facility in which it was held. It was shut down for inspection.

5) The death toll won't be known yet. Some fires are still burning, there toxic and noxious fumes in the air and the area is on lock down to prevent further loss of life. The original reports were CONFIRMED DEAD because those bodies were easily accessible. Many bodies will have been vaporised in the explosion and it will take weeks to work out lost, missing and dead people. It's going to start raining cyanide in tianjin within the next couple of hours which will only further complicate things.

6) Please ladies and gents, I know it's fun to attach conspiracies to every event that hits the mainstream news, but I ask you to be patient with this one. It was a genuine accident and a real tragedy. The families of the dead and injured want time to mourn, not to see rumours and whispers online that the illuminati did this to punish the CCP. You only have to spend a month in China to realise how these things happen. There's no health and safety, no pride in one's work, no foresight and no critical review by outsiders. There's simply no incentive to prevent things like this because taking preventative steps to prevent the small chance of something like this happening just isn't worth the effort to most people here.

I'd be happy to answer any other questions that you may have.

N.B, I had to use a VPN to access the forum. The capture to recover my account password runs through a google script. Google is banned in China so I couldn't see the Captcha.

[Muzz]

On a scale like this some governments would call in help from all branches. Military and otherwise for expertise and decontamination equipment. I don't think it's necessarily a sign of a nuke. As others have pointed out, plenty of damage can be done with conventional cargo in adequate quantities. The SS Grandcamp in Texas City wiped out an entire fire department with fertilizer.

There's a very high probability that all sorts of nasty chemicals and biological hazards have been dispersed over this site posing a particular hazard to emergency workers and the public nearby. Ports and transport sytems worldwide are chock full of toxic crap being shipped around. There are also a lot of low level radiation sources within modern equipment which will still needs to accounted for in the emergency workers risk assessment.

State-run digital publication The Paper made a list (link in Chinese) of the categories of “dangerous goods” stored at Ruihai International Logistics, based on the company’s website:

Argon and compressed natural gas
Flammable liquids such as butanone
Flammable solids and self-combustible goods
Oxidizing agents
Toxic goods, including sodium cyanide
Corrosives, including formic acid

In March 2014, the Tianjin government held an emergency drill (link in Chinese) on highly toxic and hazardous chemicals at Ruihai International Logistics. A government inspection between November and December 2013 reported that five of the more than 4,300 containers on site were improperly encased (link in Chinese).

link

From Rueters -

Chinese official defends fire fighters after Tianjin blasts, experts focus on response

The warehouse, designed to house dangerous and toxic chemicals, was storing mainly ammonium nitrate, potassium nitrate and calcium carbide at the time of the blasts, according to police. The official Xinhua news agency has said several containers in the warehouse caught fire before the explosions

Looking at that witches brew stored at this location I think a nuke would be an inefficient use of ones resources if you wanted to level the place. You would just need to equip your asset with a box of matches.

[Delight]

This video may have been posted. It is terrifying

https://www.facebook.com/ebaumsworld...3155166912424/

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/84695797/

[Rocky_Shorz]

China's Tianjin blast sets off earthquake-recording instruments 100 miles away

"US Geological Survey says equipment in Beijing often picks up mining blasts but not explosions, and estimates the Tianjin blasts as magnitude 2 or 3"

An explosion in China that killed at least seven people and injured hundreds more was registered by the US Geological Survey as two small seismological actions followed by one big one at a seismometer station 160km (100 miles) away in Beijing.

The USGS equipment is meant to detect seismological activity like earthquakes, but also frequently picks up activity from mining blasts.

USGS geophysicist John Bellini said it is rare to detect seismological activity from other events, like the explosion in Tianjin. “Blasts that are not mine-related are rare to record, just because they don’t get transferred into the ground very well,” he said.

Bellini said that it looks like multiple blasts were recorded at the Beijing monitoring facility, but the agency is not completely certain that the activity came from the explosion in Tianjin. The nature of the blast means that the seismological monitor does not give a completely accurate assessment of the explosion’s magnitude, he said.

“I can’t really give you an accurate magnitude picture – because it is one station and I don’t know how much air blast and how much of it is ground vibration, so I can’t give any precise magnitude measure for it,” Bellini said.

He did say that a safe estimate for the explosion is that it registered between a magnitude 2 and 3 on the Richter scale.

“That doesn’t accurately portray the amount of energy in the explosion, just because it isn’t transferred to the ground very well,” said Bellini.

Citing the verified Weibo account of the China Earthquake Networks Centre, AFP reported the magnitude of the first explosion was the equivalent of detonating three tons of TNT, while the second was the equivalent of detonating 21 tons of the explosive." link

could a meteor like the one that hit Iran have hit the warehouse?

They say a pea sized meteor can be picked up by seismographs, the one that hit Chelyabinsk in Russia was picked up 100 miles away...

[t2016]

China explosions: Potent chemical mix behind Tianjin blasts
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33923478

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=F_p0e40fg8E

The problem is as follows (in Chinese):

https://hk.news.yahoo.com/天津-危城-毒霧漂流...215508785.html

https://hk.news.yahoo.com/700噸山埃恐爆毒水災難-210034645.html
Please pay attention to the map. You may find something very "SOMETHING"
Tianjin -> North Korea & South Korea -> Japan (Horizontal)
Tianjin -> Shanghai -> Canton -> Hong Kong (Vertical)

https://hk.news.yahoo.com/天津爆炸核心區東面據...053601548.html
They found Cyanide

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by t2016 (here)
China explosions: Potent chemical mix behind Tianjin blasts

Thanks for the update, t2016. I merged your post in with the earlier thread covering these explosions.

[Citizen No2]

I'd like to throw this into the mix, a report from Jim Stone. Follow the link for pictures.

http://82.221.129.208/ab6index.html

UPDATE: ANOTHER BLOCKBUSTER: Blasts were NOT RELATED, blast 1, the small blast, happened on the West side of the container lot, and was the crater everyone first saw with containers laying in it, thinking that was from the big blast. It was not. Blast 2, the lake making nuke type blast, happened on the East side of the container lot. The fire happened to the South of both blasts, approximately centered between them, and was ONLY A FIRE, there is no conceivable way it could produce blasts on both sides of a container lot, separated by over 200 yards. The materials in question simply could not do it. The warehouse that supposedly holding whatever exploded was erased by the large blast, as was everything else around that blast.


The crater pictures people posted previously were from the small blast, not the big one, a new picture which clearly shows where the big blast went off just got released by China. After looking through the images of the soviet nuclear tests, the new lake in China appears to have been made by a slightly sub surface burst of at least a 5 kiloton nuclear bomb. There is no way the earthquake from this was in the 2's. Take a look at the pond made by a test of a small nuclear weapon ground burst in Russia and compare it to that new lake in China, which is many times as big as the pond made by a nuclear test in Russia!


Now we have limited options for this blast, since nothing stored there could have possibly done this.
This was NOT an accident and the fracture pattern around the crater proves a sub ground burst. If it was a sub ground burst,then a small nuclear weapon is the biggest possibility because once a nuke has to push dirt, the blinding flash will not happen. A slightly subsurface detonation would explain why camera sensors did not get strange artifacts. And if it was not a nuke, it was something else incredibly huge, but not a fuel air bomb because fuel air bombs will not leave craters.

A little bit more of a detailed explanation: If the blast happened at ground level, almost all of the energy would go upwards and the blast would not have made a large deep crater, especially one large enough and deep enough to make that lake. If you look to the right hand side of the lake, you can see fracture patterns in the earth, which were caused by the earth being compressed sideways and not downwards. This would only be done with a sub surface blast. After the blast, the earth bounced back towards the center of the lake, which opened up the cracks.

Look closely at the ground around the lake. Those who claimed it was not a nuke cited the fact that if it was, everything around the crater would be vaporized and wiped clean. Now that we have the real crater pic from the big blast, YEP, it matches that perfectly. Take a look at the containers laying in the lower left corner of this picture - they have no paint or color, which means they had the surfaces incinerated by intense heat only a nuke or other super weapon would reach. If this was a carbide blast, they would be black or have their original colors to some degree, complete color change to only gray proves this explosion was FREAKING HOT.
That type and size of blast crater will only happen if a massive bomb goes off a few feet underground, such as a tactical nuke in a drain pipe which leaves scant few alternative options (see Rod from God), No chemical blast did that, PERIOD. The building that is still standing in the upper right hand side of the frame is a typical example of what is left after a nuclear test, concrete buildings seldom get leveled, but they do get gutted by nuclear blasts. Just look through pictures of the soviet nuclear tests and you will see this. Bottom line? The aftermath is completely consistent with a nuclear blast.

I think a glue fire was started as an excuse for this huge blast, which came considerably later. And who knows what made the first big blast, or smaller blasts that led up to it, but I am confident it was a show and not an accident. They wanted this filmed from all angles and set up the show to make sure people would be recording when the big one went off. If there were lots of little blasts before that, why was there not a single small blast after the big one? That is when I would think the small blasts should have started if this entire scenario was not contrived from the start.

Drone footage from the site. See the lake that has formed starting at 1:17.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0c9_1439603746


And just watch this footage from a car-dash cam of the two explosions. See how it is like day light for extended periods of time, this is something Oppenheimer talked about after the Trinity test.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=160_1439476837


Interesting, no?


Regards.

[Möbius]

That is exactly what I thought including the mini nuke...

[Möbius]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Sorry, but I don't believe for one second that this was an "accident". The MSM initially reported an explosion the equivalent of 4 tons of TNT; try at least 10 x that, felt 7km away. It's more like a mini-nuclear bomb going off. At least 44 people dead and over 300 injured, cars on the docks incinerated.

"Punishment" from the Cabal for lowering the value of the Yuan 3-days in a row?? (and effectively screwing the US$ even further??) Hmmmmm...

That is exactly what I thought including the mini nuke...