A Flat Earth not Round ...?

[Wide-Eyed]

FE ? Hmmm ... Why aren't there any pictures of "globe" earth with stars etc. is one point "FE's" make- Why? Why has there been no country claiming continent of Antarctica? FE? Why did Byrd - US and ALL other nations that were exploring Antarctica stop exploration altogether from 56'?FE ? Why? Why did Rudolph Hess go there (Antarctica) for uncle Adolf?FE? Why don't we explore there further?FE? IDK,please something is not adding up. Bill? Why the flight patterns between N&S seem to support FE hypothesis? Linda Mouton Howe talks of dark pyramid in Alaska and the Lake Vostok area is like the whole rest of continent Antarctica off limits? Why all the areal nuclear US /Soviet explosions over area in 50's? Then all space race BS? I think Weidner explained Kubrick's mea culpa in film well. I have started and own several businesses from scratch, can speak conversationally in 5 languages lived all over the world graduated from "world class university" in three years but something about this thread and the reactions, reasoning,& dialog of this FE theory smell and feel a bit off. Like this forum is a big limited hangout for elite alphabet agency agenda. Why the questioning of one's intelligence and not answering or going over the points mentioned regarding the reasons for questioning FE? Maybe, me tried time to take break from Avalon and drink some more fluoridated water. Real or Fake? Over and out...

[Wide-Eyed]

Eric Dollard a genius inventor and free energy pioneer would agree and says the sun is not far away. Don't have post but there is a lot of you tube stuff on him. Go to second page of searches and there is a documentary where he discusses this. Sorry can't find.

[Wide-Eyed]

Garbage vassili, simple questions get bs answers and belittled and censored. Show me some satellite photos of this sphere or we have a problem Houston...

[loveoflife]

Posted by Wide-Eyed (here)
FE ? Hmmm ... Why aren't there any pictures of "globe" earth with stars etc. is one point "FE's" make- Why? Why has there been no country claiming continent of Antarctica? FE? Why did Byrd - US and ALL other nations that were exploring Antarctica stop exploration altogether from 56'?FE ? Why? Why did Rudolph Hess go there (Antarctica) for uncle Adolf?FE? Why don't we explore there further?FE? IDK,please something is not adding up. Bill? Why the flight patterns between N&S seem to support FE hypothesis? Linda Mouton Howe talks of dark pyramid in Alaska and the Lake Vostok area is like the whole rest of continent Antarctica off limits? Why all the areal nuclear US /Soviet explosions over area in 50's? Then all space race BS? I think Weidner explained Kubrick's mea culpa in film well. I have started and own several businesses from scratch, can speak conversationally in 5 languages lived all over the world graduated from "world class university" in three years but something about this thread and the reactions, reasoning,& dialog of this FE theory smell and feel a bit off. Like this forum is a big limited hangout for elite alphabet agency agenda. Why the questioning of one's intelligence and not answering or going over the points mentioned regarding the reasons for questioning FE? Maybe, me tried time to take break from Avalon and drink some more fluoridated water. Real or Fake? Over and out...

Thanks for those excellent questions.

I have noticed in many debates on this topic that those who do not accept a FE even as a possibility generally do no investigation of their own and just ask flat earth believers for proof. I will not debate the issue simply because arguing with those who have uniformed opinions is a waste of time, they ask questions like where is the edge, showing that they have not done their own enquiry and more than likely have no intention to. There are to many willing to argue about the title of a thread rather than examine the evidence presented.

As for NASA not showing the earth with stars well they have never shown one until now this is one of their latest breathtaking cgi videos with stars. I suppose they are keeping an eye on the recent FE explosion. Maybe they will make a video from the ISS showing satellites. There is also no 360 degree panoramic videos from ISS.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wgdbZhnFD5g

All that was needed in the past was a globe in a classroom. I can see the progression to videos like this.

[Daozen]

What! No Moon!

Yes Harvey they left the moon out lol.

[Daozen]

There are ancient eastern texts that talk of Mount Meru and earth being part of Jambudvipa, they also describe highly advanced civilisations. Maybe its just two ways of looking at the same thing.

Mt Meru is interesting. I suspect there are many lies told about the Earth, but I don't believe Flat Earth theory. On the other hand, holographic sky theory is interesting. The Truman Show is supposed to be about Holographic Sky theory.

[Jake]

The moon is made of cheese! Prove me wrong... No citing NASA, and no thinking for yourself! Lmao...

jake

[Omni]

Posted by Jake (here)
The moon is made of cheese! Prove me wrong... No citing NASA, and no thinking for yourself! Lmao...

jake

mmmmmm lunar mac n cheese

[Chip]

I never thought I would even entertain in this discussion (it's embarrassing to any IQ over 100). My apologies to FE's but the entire debate having been brought up now everywhere is disruptive to many of the more important issues we should be concerned with. I don't think I need to point them out, as most of us just know.
Perhaps this is the reason that the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat is being raised. To make us look like fools.
Just entertaining in this discussion makes me feel already like I got "suckered".
Leave it be!
Can't fix stupid
My apologies

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Chipsam (here)
I never thought I would even entertain in this discussion (it's embarrassing to any IQ over 100). My apologies to FE's but the entire debate having been brought up now everywhere is disruptive to many of the more important issues we should be concerned with. I don't think I need to point them out, as most of us just know.
Perhaps this is the reason that the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat is being raised. To make us look like fools.
Just entertaining in this discussion makes me feel already like I got "suckered".
Leave it be!
Can't fix stupid
My apologies

Yep. For anyone who may not know, Chip is a professional pilot (and a very experienced and highly qualified one, too). That doesn't mean that skeptics should bombard him with questions about the horizon, or optimum flight paths to travel directly between two points on a globe! He would probably not thank me for that.

Seriously, it's an important point that this is a 'noisy' distraction. If, for anyone reading this, this topic is the problem in your worldview that's most bothering you, then there really may be something not quite right.

If anyone is in so much confusion that they're not certain about ANYTHING out there, then (and please excuse me if I say it rather bluntly) you may not be in very good intellectual shape.

We have to have certainties in our world in order to function. If we have none.... then we flounder and founder, and blow with the wind. That's not healthy. Questioning whether the Earth is a globe — and with it, every other heavenly body (anyone see any disk-shaped stars or planets up there?) — is NOT NOT NOT the same quality of investigation as asking highly intelligent, well-informed questions about ancient history, extraterrestrial contact, the benefit of vaccinations, man's true origins, whether we already have bases on Mars, or what happened on 9/11.

Not all questions are the same; some are far more intelligent (and well-informed) than others. To apply intelligence, and to help us all become more well-informed (and with that, to enable us all to figure out the really difficult problems we're all faced with), is one of the prime purposes of this forum.

It's an online Master's course we're conducting here together... and to be a contributing part of that, one has to be at least able to understand all the basic premises on which sound intellectual inquiry is based. One could ask Socrates, Pythagoras, Plato, or Aristotle. They had it nailed over 2,000 years ago.

(And they knew the Earth was round, too.)

[ThePythonicCow]

Unfortunately, the only resolution that any of us can reliably obtain to a question such as "what shape is earth" involves competent use of whatever science, physics, astronomy, geometry, geology, astrophysics, mathematics, logic and other such tools and disciplines as might actually provide reliable answers to that question.

An inability to use such tools, or a preference to not use them, perhaps justified on the grounds that sometimes such science gets things horribly wrong, so we should not let such close our minds, and then further encouraged by various paradoxes, confusions and befuddlements as might be alluring to the mind weak in the use of those tools, fails ultimately to use the means necessary to reliably answer such a question, and typically reduces the failure to a metaphysical debate, along the lines of "Science is good and reliable vs Science closes one's mind to real truths."

Such a metaphysical debate, as with my very own post here, cannot reliably answer such a question. Either learn to use the necessary tools yourself, so that you might obtain sufficient mastery to trust your own conclusions, perhaps as guided by the work of others to facilitate your learning, or else realize that you can do little better than argue over which "expert" to place your trust in, or which metaphysical rules of thumb to use in selecting an answer.

If you have obtained such a mastery of the necessary tools, then you have an expertise worth offering to others, to facilitate their own learning.

If you have not, you're wasting our time ... which may well be the intention of some in this matter.

[terragunn]

Posted by loveoflife (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)
Those crazy flat Earthers give us Hollow Earthers a bad name.

Azt, The flat Earth resurgence on the fake intel circuit is about distracting people from Inner Earth mysteries. They are desperate to keep a lid on this and are pulling every trick out of the bag to stop us making etheric links. Whether strict H.E. theory is true is beyond the scope of this thread, but there are many intermediate theories such as Honeycomb Earth. And then you have cities in topside mountains which have nothing to do with H.E. theory, as they are only a mile or so down. This is the true meaning of the Mcarthyist phrase "The enemy within."

It is good to question everything we've been told, and have a platform and atmosphere where things like this can be discussed without fear of ridicule.

Why cant the hollow earth and the flat earth co exist as it does with a globe earth. Antarctica is a mystery and off limits to all but those who are granted a permit and under supervision, science only speculates as to what is below the crust as the deepest hole ever drilled is only eight miles deep.

Flat earthers also have no idea what the earth rests on or what is beneath.

There are ancient eastern texts that talk of Mount Meru and earth being part of Jambudvipa, they also describe highly advanced civilisations. Maybe its just two ways of looking at the same thing.

I'm with you on this and appreciate your posts and understanding in this thread. I wrote a reply to what is mentioned above but removed it because I didn't think the wording through well enough to articulate what I wanted to articulate. When I have refined what I wrote I will post it.

[Daozen]

Posted by Chipsam (here)
I never thought I would even entertain in this discussion (it's embarrassing to any IQ over 100).

I weigh in at 87 so I am well within thread limits.

Flat Earth is being pushed to distract us from the rising consciousness about the Agartha Network. It's a "dragnet meme", so to speak.

[risveglio]

Posted by Jake (here)
The moon is made of cheese! Prove me wrong... No citing NASA, and no thinking for yourself! Lmao...

jake

I really like cheese

[Harley]

Posted by risveglio (here)

Posted by Jake (here)
The moon is made of cheese! Prove me wrong... No citing NASA, and no thinking for yourself! Lmao...

jake

I really like cheese

You Bet! But now·a·days most cheese is processed.

Think about it!

[ulli]

I only check in here because sometimes I get a weird craving for the absurd.

Maybe we should start a contest between the hollow earthers and the flat earthers.

However, seriously now, in dimensions other than 3 D all things are possible.
The worlds I visit in my dreams are even weirder.

[Daozen]

hollow earthers and the flat earthers.

Lol I would love to see George Noory host that debate live. That would be a hoot.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Daozen (here)

hollow earthers and the flat earthers.

Lol I would love to see George Noory host that debate live. That would be a hoot.

The best idea I heard came from Art Bell a few weeks ago. He suggested that a wealthy benefactor could sponsor and host an in-air Flat Earth conference on a 747 that would fly in a straight flightpath right round the globe. When everyone realized, after all the discussions: "Hey! We're back where we started!", then maybe it would be all over at at last.

[avid]

I'm surprised this thread has gone on this long, it's almost like the interminable weed in my garden, I think it's been annihilated, then some spooky critter sets it off again! My Mum's favourite surmisings included biblical statements which ring true: "my Father's house has many mansions". In other words, we are in a multi-verse, an inter-dimensional society, and sometimes their timelines cross to enable us to learn more.
Apologies to any 'spooky critters'!

[Daozen]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

hollow earthers and the flat earthers.

Lol I would love to see George Noory host that debate live. That would be a hoot.

The best idea I heard came from Art Bell a few weeks ago. He suggested that a wealthy benefactor could sponsor and host an in-air Flat Earth conference on a 747 that would fly in a straight flightpath right round the globe. When everyone realized, after all the discussions: "Hey! We're back where we started!", then maybe it would be all over at at last.

I think you have underestimated the ingenuity of those people. They would have accounted for that trivial anomaly before the plane had even landed.

Onward.