Shane/The Ruiner's interview with Kerry Cassidy, 8 Sept 2015

[Valley]

I've been sitting back, observing this somewhat heated, but mainly respectable discussion... and thinking to myself, 'What is being accomplished here?' Well, I'm seeing several folks taking a side, sometimes very strongly, as we all weigh the possibilities... and yet there is no definitive evidence as yet to back up the authenticity of 'The Ruiner' and this story, that I'm aware of. To me this whole story is very 'spotty', with no clear overall direction... other than maybe to misdirect, confuse, or divide folks even further. The most effective 'tool' of the 'cabal' for control over the masses has always been to divide and conquer... this is what we need to guard against here and elsewhere as we continue to uncover the wrappings of lies which have been shielding the truth from us for so long.

I see no reason to believe any of this story, or even pay much attention to it right now... but this may change... we shall see. Right now, it doesn't sound believable at all to me... the way it is presented.

Everyone should feel free to share their thoughts/feelings without fear of being attacked... once folks start attacking each other over their views with this 'story', then I know something has gone amiss. Some aspects of this story could be accurate, but to assume it is all 100% accurate and attack others for questioning is a big mistake, in my view. It could all be one big setup/confusion campaign... I don't know right now... but it does seem so at this time. The 'Ruiner' may not even be aware of his role. For the time being, I'm only slightly interested in this story. I will be watching from the sidelines.

Love & Respect... (I do like that part : )

PS... Truth can be verified... it is fiction that cannot be.

[onawah]

I see all the questioning and research we do here as a process.
Because of the very nature of whistleblower information and the kind of restrictions that are placed on those who reveal it, it's never going to be easy for us to straightforwardly get to a specific goal or truth.
I think we have to accept that, or we might as well not engage in it at all.
Personally, I think it can be a growth process, if approached in the right way, with no particular expectations, but a willingness to explore the possibilities and to use it as a growth process.
My mentor once said that there is nothing more dangerous than spiritual naivety, and Trungpa Rinpoche used to say that disillusionment is fertile ground for growth.

I would like to say that though my questions for Shane have often been about information I have heard from other sources, it seems to me that should be OK if it seems likely he might know something that others have left out or didn't know, or if he simply knows that it's all BS.
And as long as I am not asking him to comment on that other source as a person, but simply on the information, that should be OK too.
Those questions may not be the most popular or comfortable, but in my view, with so many people endlessly chasing their own tails due to false information meant to distract, it's helpful to have as much input as possible which may help to open others' eyes to what has been the cause of so much wasted time and energy.

On the subject of Shane's style of self-expression, although there is a relatively new field of study which purports to tell us by analyzing body language, etc. when someone is lying or what they are feeling, etc, and no doubt that is valid up to a point, based on "norms".
But, because we are all unique individuals with unique histories, I don't think it's possible to know what is really going on inside someone else simply by observing them. Appearances may be deceiving.
And, although we actually still know very little about Shane's life so far, we can safely presume that it has not been normal in ANY sense of the word.
So I don't think we can expect that he is going to behave in a way that is typified as "normal".
I believe him when he says that he never sought the public eye, but he has agreed to take the stage because he has been asked to do so, and thinks he can contribute, by the very way that he behaves, which looks like he is someone who really prefers not to be in the spotlight.
And for that reason alone, I am grateful that he has agreed to go against the grain of his own personal preferences.
I hope he won't have to continue justifying that; surely there are better subjects for us to discuss...

I like the theme of choosing Gaia that we've been seeing in messages from Shane, Harald Kautz-Vella, Cara St. Louis, Lily Earthling and others very much.
What they are espousing is something that I have always believed, from my hippie days as a commune-dwelling Zen Buddhist to now, that there is nothing more vital to me than my connection to Mother Nature and through her, to Source.
Any information that we can share that helps us to do that, and that helps us to build more cooperative and sustainable community, is more valuable than anything I can think of.
A big part of the distracting tactics all along has been to make us dwell overmuch on all the things that are being done to us.
I think we need to know more about what we can do, and how what we do will help us overcome what is being done to us.
This seems like a big step forward to me.

[Gemma13]

PS... Truth can be verified... it is fiction that cannot be.

Define Truth??? Surely many of us who have been travelling the rabbit hole labyrinth for some time have come to realize that "truth" is not definitive, it is ever changing. Which raises the idea that our Source is not definitive, has never been definitive, and will never be. So to claim one has the Truth would imply our Source is definitive. And if our Source is not definitive the search stops now.

The exercise of defining belongs [in part] to mathematics and the idea that everything belongs to a set of definable codes. This to me, as cosmically grand as the demonstrable codes are, has always been limiting . . . simply because even though I breathe and exist surrounded by workable, functioning, extraordinary code, there is [something] I am connected to that I know is not coded. And every time I try to code the damn thing, it shifts, doesn't disappear, just shifts. It is because of this that I now veer away from the idea of Truth and Proof. Fiction {ART} is a code breaker offering a kaleidoscope of opportunity and inspiration and so to me is a far better fluid medium of communication . . . for the thought of being locked into Coded Truth [again] speaks to me of an INTELLIGENCE that wants to contain and control . . . and this repulses me.

Person 1: "So what is truth?"
Person 2: "There is no truth!"
Person 1: "Bullcrap, truth can be proven so there has to be truth!"
Person 2: "Truth can be proven only within its own set of code. So, No, for me truth is the Illusion."
Person 1: "All well and good with the philosophizing but it has no practical application."
Person 2: "Only because we are living in a reality heavily dominated by a Code of Truth and this code will use cruel brutality to enforce, sustain, and perpetuate itself."
Person 1: "So how should I live without truth then?"
Person 2: "I don't know. I only know how I live without it by paying attention to all the codes that inform and influence me and then practicing to make my choices from the unknown."

[Daozen]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Bill, if you interview Shane, it could be very useful to ask what suggestions Shane may have, for individuals or groups, to best navigate what lies ahead.

There is so much discussion of doom and gloom from other sources. Potential solutions are what we need to hear about.

Using group intent and the Avalon crystal grid to help us navigate might be an interesting and useful topic.

This is the key part of the testimonial for me, and why I ask Shane questions. How to navigate this Autumn and beyond. A key part of this "navigation" is remembering that we are co-creating this timeline as we go along.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by Daozen (here)

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Bill, if you interview Shane, it could be very useful to ask what suggestions Shane may have, for individuals or groups, to best navigate what lies ahead.

There is so much discussion of doom and gloom from other sources. Potential solutions are what we need to hear about.

Using group intent and the Avalon crystal grid to help us navigate might be an interesting and useful topic.

This is the key part of the testimonial for me, and why I ask Shane questions. How to navigate this Autumn and beyond. A key part of this "navigation" is remembering that we are co-creating this timeline as we go along.

Probably just as important as how to best navigate whatever is ahead, is to understand what we *should not* be doing that may throw us off course.

It would be nice to have a short list of the most important items that we could brainstorm about using our intuitive and rational resources.

[Daozen]

The discussion has become a little circular and repetitive. It might help to open a thread called "Questions for the Ruiner". Mods could keep it clean. This thread can be a freeform discussion. Or questions could go in the other Ruiner thread. Shane could read questions at his leisure, pick which ones interested him and take them to Bill's interview. This would be the easiest solution for all concerned.

I like Avalon a lot, and it has become reinvigorated recently, but many Avalonians, if not most, are far too wordy. My eyes glaze over reading these indulgent wall o'types. It's a shame to let a good message suffocate under all that verbiage.

>>>

We have stumbled through Mordor, now we taking a break on a mountain peak and watching Sauron dissolve away on the other side of Mount Doom, yonder. Shanewise Gamgee has carried us up the mountain when we were too exhausted to continue. Now we are eating sandwiches and wondering what to do with the Ring. Who brought it? I thought you were going to take it? Where is hottest lava in Mordor? Does anyone have a map?

LOTR/Terminator/Alice in Wonderland/They Live/Tomrrowland... they are all talking about the same operation.

[Daozen]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Bill, if you interview Shane, it could be very useful to ask what suggestions Shane may have, for individuals or groups, to best navigate what lies ahead.

There is so much discussion of doom and gloom from other sources. Potential solutions are what we need to hear about.

Using group intent and the Avalon crystal grid to help us navigate might be an interesting and useful topic.

This is the key part of the testimonial for me, and why I ask Shane questions. How to navigate this Autumn and beyond. A key part of this "navigation" is remembering that we are co-creating this timeline as we go along.

Probably just as important as how to best navigate whatever is ahead, is to understand what we *should not* be doing that may throw us off course.

It would be nice to have a short list of the most important items that we could brainstorm about using our intuitive and rational resources.

What to avoid. That is even more of a key. I am like a blind man with a flamethrower. Many of us born into normal families are. We know what to do, but how to prioritize? The negative power structure is highly non-linear, so it's hard to find out who is the most high ranking individual. But now we know that behind all these puppets and muppets lies the AI. This is not exactly new information, as many films and whistleblowers have hinted at this, but Shane could provide some clarification. He is providing a map.

I also remind myself that I should not hang on anyone's word, and get out there and forge my own trail.

It's all about dissolving that AI.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Perhaps it is wise to turn off the wireless modem when not being used.
And have no electronics in the bedroom (recommended by Barbara Marciniak's Pleiadians).

AI would have a difficult time gathering data and programming without a power source.

[Valley]

Ok... my quick, off-the-cuff definition of 'truth'... that which resonates deeply within us, because that is where all truth is found... and this 'Ruiner' material just doesn't do that for me... so far. But I am patient, and am easily capable of changing my mind at any moment... so please allow me that luxury at any time.

Thank you...

Posted by Gemma13 (here)

PS... Truth can be verified... it is fiction that cannot be.

Define Truth???

[Daozen]

I stay the hell away from all unnecessary electro-magnetics. Wi-fry fries your internal organs. 2GHz chips in laptops are microwave frequency. Computers are banned in our house, I use cybercafes for a reason. We even took internet off our smartphones because it was getting silly. Now I just use an old Nokia for texting only. I stay out of all those hipster coffee shops where they are drowning in scalar waves as they sip their lattes.

Electro-smog is one of the major components of the veil. It is literally blocking us from accessing the higher realms;

1) By irradiating our glands, further atrophying them.
2) Creating a field that makes it difficult to resonate with the other planes.

[Lancet]

Something that Shane and Simon Parkes ( who both come from Illuminati families) share in common is their emotional intelligence. Simon once said that he noted that an Alt News celeb wept and spilled his guts in public (in a few of Simon's numerous interviews - I have watched most of them) and that it showed weakness. When one shows weakness, tptb will come after you. So I am not at all surprised by how Shane and Simon conduct themselves, ie self-assured and confident.

I can sense that they have many things weighing on their minds, and that they carry a great deal of burden and responsibility, and perhaps (too many) scars as well. But they project calmness and tranquility, and offer their knowledge and experience in such a personable and consistent way. I have read most of what Shane has written, and it is consistent.

Especially after what Shane has said about controlling emotions and how much energy is expended by him to mould or harness it. If I had witnessed and experienced what he said he had, (and vouched by shadowself), i would not know how I could make it to the other end.

So thanks Shane. Sincerely.

JT

[Daozen]

AI would have a difficult time gathering data and programming without a power source.

I'm not sure what percentage of the AI's power comes from the modern scalar fence (i.e. the mobile phone grid etc) and what percent comes straight from the aether. If you're in the desert or mountains, the AI signal is still there, but more diffuse, as there are few localized staging transmitters. Secondly, the pure local energies in nature zones block it's signal.

There is everything to play for. As we pull ourselves away from the Sauron/Skynet grid human by human, we are strengthening our own collective thoughtform, and giving it less energy to feed off. We are also making our own collective heart/mind more coherent, like an orchestra gradually getting in tune for a crashing symphony.

It may be a good idea to go over George LoBuono's work again. He wrote a LOT about the AI, and his work is largely ignored. It might be worth starting a thread. I don't have time right now:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_lobuono.htm

In general, the AI is becoming 'scrambled' by the more complex and consuming signal that Gaia and her children are putting out. In Tolkien terms, "Dissolving the ring in the fires of Mt Doom." I am also reminded of the Star Trek episode where Captain Kirk confused a computer. No matter how inorganic the AI is, it must have a core of organic consciousness (I guess) and therein lies one of it's weaknesses. Something is pulsing out of Gaia as we speak, and the energy is getting stronger.

[Kristin]

I am thankful that these incredible and beautiful questions are all being placed here in such a respectful way. Thank you all!!! You know, as it has been said, it's not what we ask but how we ask that is significant. We are all beings worthy of respect, regardless of our beliefs. To personally honor one another and still have the ability to be clear yet caring is a true testament to compassion, which this world is sorely lacking. Once again, proud to see it alive and well here.

Yes, this has become more of a conversation as to how we "feel" about the presentation rather then what was "in" the presentation, yet that is somehow in itself significant. Our relationship to hearing new and unusual information stated in such terms has an effect. This effect is of great interest.

Many of the threads here and elsewhere are litmus tests for a very close future. How will we react with disclosure? What will be disclosed? Is humanity ready for this? It is amazing actually is you can look at our threads here and ponder: The way we behave is significant and is it worthy of such trust of disclosure? Is anyone watching?

One thing that Shane has said is that we are indeed being watched... that may be the "White Hats" however we all are fully aware that this includes all others and the alphabets as well. This is something that I hope the community pays attention to. In my opinion, we are well on our way to a greater disclosure and have only scratched the surface of a history long held back. I hope we can earn that trust rationally and naturally. I feel we are well on our way.

When I say "earn" I do not mean as a parent clearly needs to earn the trust of a child, rather, I mean that our ability to observe is what is being tested. The ability to not over indulge in passions yet rather create rationality as a common place stance for debate.

Deepest respect to all posters here.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by WhiteLove (here)
You make wild claims pertaining to this reality and have absolutely no proof to back it up.

Proof depends on both parties. When I was an expert in a few areas of mathematics, I could prove various theorems, in those areas, to others who knew those areas too. I was quite good at it, actually. But I could prove nothing of the sort to my parents or other relatives or friends, who knew not of those areas of mathematics. All I could offer them was gibberish and weird symbols.

Similarly, whether or not a claim is "wild" depends as much on listener as on the speaker.

When one does hear claims that seem outlandish, from one's current view, one has a choice:

• One can shrug one's shoulder's and move on ... perhaps some other day one will be in better position, with the requisite awareness, to evaluate those claims, or
• one can "blame" the other ... label their words, scarcely understood, as "wild" and without "proof", as an excuse for doing what amounts to the same thing ... moving on ... perhaps to some other day.

I recommend the former, not the latter, as that makes less of a claim on what others might be influenced to think, when, as most of us humans do, much of the time, as social animals relying on others for clues, we take clues from others on what to think of something, lacking the energy and genius to think it all through from first principles and deep experience ourselves.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by WhiteLove (here)
You make wild claims pertaining to this reality and have absolutely no proof to back it up.

Hi there... this post may be useful, copied over from here:

At that time I was replying to another member who was being intransigent and obstinate in his view about another matter. My response here is absolutely NOT meant to convey the same intent. (After repeated similar questions, I was becoming a little frustrated with him!)

Rather, it's just to illustrate the very subtle and important nature of 'proof' in the world we're all exploring together here. It may be valuable to consider. Do please read carefully and with interest. It's quite important.

In one sentence: very few insiders/whistleblowers will ever be able to prove anything irrefutably without hugely endangering their lives.

My question to Karpos also applies, here:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

• Put yourself in Shane's shoes. Do a thought experiment (as Einstein put it), and imagine everything he has said about himself is true. What would you do, and how would you do it?

Also, there's a difference... in the other thread where I first posted this (about Corey Goode) we were talking about 'proving' a psy-op, rather than 'proving' a reality. (One can barely prove anything at all, in hard practice.) But the same principles apply.

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Dear qbeac:

Your posts display a certain amount of immaturity (in my opinion) in this arena. You talk of 'proof' in a realm where proof is hard to come by — and it's meant to be that way.

For an important reference about plausible deniability, please read this:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post616855

I was told long ago (Feb 2006) in a day-long meeting with Hal Puthoff, who I now count as a friend, never to try to prove anything. It was one of the most interesting and enlightening conversations I've had, and Hal's care and insight might be one of the reasons I'm alive today.

Not proving anything -- not producing real documents, real photos, or a real alien -- allows plausible deniability. This is what the controllers care about.

There are some issues (the real existence of UFOs and ET visitation) which the controllers want to be released... but on a very slow drip-feed. Undeniable proof causes shocks to individuals and to the "system". Undeniable proof forces the controllers' hands, and this is not what they want.

The best strategy is to offer evidence (not proof) as a paradigm-changing tool. What follows after that is a game of chess. See the current interesting and important discussion on the Dulce Project 2013 thread in which a new Avalon member, Paul (TheDulceProject) is seeking funding and support for a high-profile team to go in to retrieve the box of Dulce documents, photos and videos buried somewhere in Arizona (location known) by ex-security guard Thomas Castello and Cherry Hinkle (Avalon member Mystery).

I and some others are advising great caution. To possess such unequivocal hard information in one's hands is a self-administered death warrant (or imprisonment warrant, at best).... unless one is skilled, smart and very lucky. Ask Julian Assange.

So: it's rare that one gets a chance to 'prove' a psy-op — or just about any other claim: and many such claims are made in the alternative media. But, having said that, many of those claims will be totally true.

The 'jury' may bring a guilty charge, on the preponderance of evidence, beyond reasonable doubt. That's how the legal system works; and sometimes, that system works well.

In short: one deduces a psy-op. One [normally] doesn't prove it.

That deduction requires the capacity for deductive reasoning. You all too often use the word 'proof'. This does NOT apply here in all cases in the sense you are using it.

One gets the sense, reading your posts, that nothing would ever satisfy you. Can I PROVE the Earth isn't flat? Not easily (and maybe not at all, in the strict sense of the word: that enters into a non-trivial philosophical discussion about the concept of 'proof' in science — as opposed to, say, math, where at least, most of the time, rigorous proofs can be presented).

But, re the Flat Earth question, the preponderance of evidence suggests with an EXTREMELY high degree of confidence that it is round. Even so, some apparently intelligent people refuse to accept that preponderance of evidence. That's why we are still debating so many things on the forum, and everywhere else in human culture. It's part of the human condition.

Some dot-connecting and deduction will always be required. This cannot be spoon-fed to you, or anyone else, in any pre-digested form. You need to do at least some of the groundwork (and THINKING) for yourself.

Please do that. At least you could make a start by stopping talking about proof, and referring to EVIDENCE instead. Then, you might start to get somewhere.

[Carmody]

And of course, never mind about the moon...which we all seem to forget (somehow)....

(meaning, if you talk about the moon, the heat comes up very very fast)

[Carmody]

Posted by YoYoYo (here)
I've heard that the 'good side is winning' regularly and that the illuminati are crumbling but still never sure. I think it will make me dull if I go for it as a belief. I always appreciate people who give information about them though so thank you Shane

It's very simple. Keep up the effort and fight until it is 100% obvious to you that there is no need to continue.


HOWEVER.

The reality is, that it goes back to that premise that this is a holographic 2d information field. And that ...intelligence is organized information in that 2d holographic filed, a patterned information nexus....that is self aware.

In such a scenario, to relax is to dissolve. To increases is to always be in a growth or active thinking, learning condition. Holding one's ground also requires constancy in maintenance and motion. Relaxing does not exist in this realm.

To be a commodity in such a space and reality, is to be born coherent to some degree, to be neutral and then relax into dissolution.

So, which are you? Intelligence that is growing .....or a commodity, something that is used, handled, consumed, eaten, etc?

If you are an intelligence, then the only answer is that you are on your guard and moving to be alive and self protect, self guard, and add to self. ALWAYS.

Commodities are dead things, controlled things.

Intelligence(s) are systems of growth, with no neutral rest state.

So, in effect, to grow up just like dad, to have a job, to get a house, to have kids, work at the plant, to have a retirement plan, grow old and buy a plot next to the spouse.......is to be a commodity.

Or, more correctly, to see that it was originally an ATTEMPT to emerge into a growth and life but to see that it was corralled, like a cow, like a pig, like a mink, or a dog. Curtailed, fenced, and satiated ('suckling on a tit' kind of life). So, how far away are those fences, far enough that they are difficult to discern?

This, of course, comes back to (in some minds) that moon thing....

[Pam]

Posted by Nasu (here)
Being authentic is a tricky thing these days, nobody trusts anybody anymore, we see motives wrapped in subterfuge and true intentions hidden in plain sight behind walls of lies..

The more we come to know about life, the more we realize WE are a part, large or small, of the lie. We lie to ourselves, we lie to our friends and our closest family, that we are happy, that we are content. We lie to our children, from innocent white lies like Santa to big whoppers like the religion we have been bred to believe is the one true choice... We read lies everywhere, all the time..

Nobody trusts the media and the press today, even less the so called alternative media. Even the most died-in-the-wool believers in this matrix we call life, even those people, they are cynics first, believers second..

Dissernment. It is much overused these days and yet still remains so woefully undeveloped. I think it would be very hard for anyone to be believed as things stand, imagine a genuine voice amongst that throng, they would be drowned out by the din of all the wanna bees, as they are.

I don't require any proof from Shane, I don't expect him to believe in me, I don't expect him to help me to understand, I don't expect him to care if I don't understand, I don't need his info anymore than he needs mine, I don't expect him to change his approach to life so as to make clear to me, that which I am not yet able to see for myself, I don't expect him to consider me as a parent considers their creation, mindfully teaching at the child's level, rather than hoping in vane that the child can comprehend the parent. I take him at his word, that my involvement is a mere byproduct of his online activity, we found him after all, he did not find us.

Like you, I have my own mission in this life, like yours no doubt, mine needs good intel too. Good and bad intel, as I see it, both in their ways help to clear the fog of misdirection from our path, so that we may glimpse, sometimes very briefly, understanding.. Not truth mind you, truth so called is very subjective, understanding I feel, is a far more important challenge to rise to and or overcome.

All that being said, I thank Shane deeply, from the bottom of my heart, for helping ME to see another facet of this huge sparkly multi faceted diamond we call existence. Only when I can see about me fully, can I hope to judge for myself the condition of the weather for the next few days ahead, I don't expect anyone to scrutinize these things for me, quite often i'm wrong, its only by being wrong so many times, that I can ever hope to be right... Chuck said it better... N:

“I've always found that anything worth achieving will always have obstacles in the way and you've got to have that drive and determination to overcome those obstacles on route to whatever it is that you want to accomplish.”


― Chuck Norris

Nasu, Your wonderful post has wisdom and insight . Thank you for leading me back to balance . I tend to get frustrated when I feel that truth is being misrepresented. You have reminded me that we are enmeshed in dishonesty, it permeates our very being. At the end of the day, things are as they are. I may think I recognize truth, but at the end of the day I don't know doodly squat. You have helped me to remember that I am on this thread by choice. In the end things happen and things are said and I can ignore them or incorporate them if I feel they will be beneficial in some way. This information offers me nothing and will be of no benefit whatsoever so I will move on. Thankyou, Nasu. You, my friend, are a very wise individual and you have made the time I have spent reading this thread worth it.

[Kristin]

Posted by peterpam (here)
This information offers me nothing and will be of no benefit whatsoever so I will move on.

Very considerate of you. Take care.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Kristin]

So I had some thoughts on follow ups that I thought I would post here for all to consider and discuss:

Shane touched on a few really important things that stuck with me. One was that hearing the truth felt more like remembering. I would like to hear more on this as I think it may pertain to our ability to tap into a collective remembrance and that we all carry this ability inside of us. It would be interesting to discuss how this can be cultivated more. Perhaps Shane may also have a few ideas on this or would like to share more?

Also he touched on how our belief systems are co-creating our reality. This is also a heavy duty and has much said in few words. I would like to hear more in-depth perceptions on how this applies to mind control and his ideas on recognizing the pitfalls that we all need to be aware of. Though Kerry neglected to follow up on any of these statements, I would love to hear more with respect to Shane's personal philosophy.

I am curious as to who/what exactly are the "White Hats" (without naming names), and what other communications he has ongoing with other races, what does he perceive their agendas to be, and how do these various agendas interplay with each other. I'm curious as to what Shane perceives as an overall planetary history. More of an overview of the solar system and an idea of where we are headed.

I'm also curious as to how Shane's personal journey lead him past the dark end of his past and into a place of balance. Music seems to be a sort of therapy for him. It may help others on the forum if he would be kind enough to disclose a personal philosophy that has guided him though this journey and into a healthier place.

Food for thought.

From the Heart,
Kristin