Anticomuna's rant about being moderated

[Anticomuna]

inconsistent with the philosophy and direction of the forum

Off Topic.

You have seen these two comments a lot in the spiritual forum by now.

We decided to block your access to that subforum temporarily and when you are able to read and post there again and you insist and continue this behaviour it will result in a permanent infraction.

Jenny,

Avalon Staff.

Just to let you know. I went against the Obama messiah cult followers and that's what happened.

From now on "be positive"! Yes, accept being thrown down your throat this new messiah, either by the mainstream media or by "avaloners". If you raise questions, then you are being "negative".

Nah, count me out...

Anticomuna, I have had enough of your accusations of "Obama cult followers." You don't like this guy because some anti-Muslim, Christian fundamentalist, neo-fascist online venom spouter wrote some article that most people here are smart enough to see for the thoughtless, pedantic, and poorly written piece of garbage that it is.

Just like the folks who claim Obama is a Mason, which he is not a Mason (prove it - don't post a link to a youtube montage thrown together by a paranoid basement dweller, seething about the outside world that exists just outside his parents' basement windows; show me a picture of him in a fez, wearing a skull and bones t-shirt). Just like those who think that because he is a politician, he must be evil. He went to Harvard, he must be evil. His wife wore a red dress, he must be evil. Give me an ever lovin' break! Buddy, I love my country, and I love my people. I someday would like to contribute to our political system, and yes, my ultimate dream is to someday run for POTUS. I am not one of the folks here on this site who believe that we will vibrate out of our problems, or some of the that other cultish horse-hocky that passes for fact. I'm one of those people who is hoping for the best, yet preparing for the worst, and defining my own spiritual path instead of letting others define it for me.

Obama is so popular because he IS different from what we have had for decades. Maybe, just maybe, this guy is from the outside, and will do good for our country. The fact is no one knows; not me, not you, or the Christo-facist gestapo that inspires you to wage your campaign against Obama.

The fact that the Christian fundamentalist evangelicals are so upset about Obama's rise to power reinforces my belief that there might be something good about him after all. The fact Republicans in general are upset tells me we might really be on the verge of REAL, and POSITIVE change. After all, it is they that have destroyed this country, and led with a vision more fitting of the nineteenth century than the twenty-first.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by historycircus

I am not one of the folks here on this site who believe that we will vibrate out of our problems, or some of the that other cultish horse-hocky that passes for fact.

Good for you. Many others are not.

Originally Posted by historycircus

Obama is so popular because he IS different from what we have had for decades. Maybe, just maybe, this guy is from the outside, and will do good for our country. The fact is no one knows; not me, not you, or the Christo-facist gestapo that inspires you to wage your campaign against Obama.

You are on the defensive now. Go through every single Obama thread on Avalon and see what people is talking about, then see what my responses were. You will see that I am speaking sense, and the others cultists are worshiping him for no good reason (as if there were a good reason to worship anyone).

Yes, no good reason. What reason do you have to believe that he is going to be something good? Some people even claim he is super-human, with "orbs or light" around him, or "an indigo child", or a "star seed who resonates with other equal super-humans". It's BS and more BS.

Silence means agreement. That's why I post on those threads.

Originally Posted by historycircus

... we might really be on the verge of REAL, and POSITIVE change. After all, it is they that have destroyed this country, and led with a vision more fitting of the nineteenth century than the twenty-first.

You are one of those who speak for "positivity", but you hatred for Bush has blinded you. You hate Bush so much that it prevents you from objetively analyzing that guy's record. You will see by his career that he is not a "light worker", he can't face the "illuminati" or PTB or whatever. He has done NOTHING so far to make anybody believe that.

Hate is what fuels the Obamamania. And I am negative? I don't think so.

[Dean Plejaren]

Obamamania.

[mntruthseeker]

Obama is nothing more than a puppet

We can dream we can hope but be fooled for how long? check out my post on servitude and you will see what I am talking about

Historycircus...............I would love to go along with you but my stomach can't stand the turmoil. I wish it would stop. For one day it seemed settled and that was during his speach when he was elected........thats what I want to believe in. Now it seems just like his speach on race.....too bad he didn't really mean it.

[utopiandreamer]

Hi to all and sorry to be blunt ,

If Obama ( whom i find charming by the way ) is not one of the PTB , then there is nothing called PTB . If they do not control who will become the president of the U.S. then they do not control anything and we should not worry and have this forum ( what for ? )

Stop Dreaming

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

You hate Bush so much that it prevents you from objetively analyzing that guy's record. You will see by his career that he is not a "light worker", he can't face the "illuminati" or PTB or whatever. He has done NOTHING so far to make anybody believe that.

Hate is what fuels the Obamamania. And I am negative? I don't think so.

No "hate," as you insinuate, needed. One ONLY has to look at Bush's record to see that McCain, Obama, or a lab monkey would be a better president. Maybe you are right. I "hate" the fact that we invaded Afghanistan over a false-flag "terror" attack. I "hate" the fact we invaded Iraq to satisfy the demands of the American oil industry. I "hate" the fact the Patriot Act was passed, and I "hate" the fact that my government practices torture now. I "hate" the fact our executive branch of government is riddled with incompetence.

So maybe your right, "hatred" is blinding me from being joyful about Bush's stellar, intellectual, and moral policies. My mistake.

I apologize Anticomuna. I'll go read "Mein Kampf" now, and follow the teachings of John Hagee.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by historycircus

So maybe your right, "hatred" is blinding me from being joyful about Bush's stellar, intellectual, and moral policies. My mistake.

There are many hateable things in the world, but we shouldn't go there and you know why.

My point is, even if Bush is the devil incarnated it doesn't translate directly into "Obama is a saint". What if he is another devil? By the level of good things said around, without any facts to support other than "vibrations" or "star seeds", you see that the expectations of people are way too high.

I just don't want other people to think that I am on the same bandwagon. I am not. And I will wait and see what happens and act accordingly.

Originally Posted by historycircus

I apologize Anticomuna. I'll go read "Mein Kampf" now, and follow the teachings of John Hagee.

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

There are many hateable things in the world, but we shouldn't go there and you know why.

My point is, even if Bush is the devil incarnated it doesn't translate directly into "Obama is a saint". What if he is another devil? By the level of good things said around, without any facts to support other than "vibrations" or "star seeds", you see that the expectations of people are way too high.

I just don't want other people to think that I am on the same bandwagon. I am not. And I will wait and see what happens and act accordingly.

"We shouldn't go there"? Let's go. I've packed a lunch for the trip.

And, how do you translate "Obama MIGHT be a positve force for real change" with "Obama is a saint"? I'm not saying he is a saint. Nor am I saying that I know for sure he is a good guy who WILL do positive things. All I know is that if he is on the level, he will be way better than what we have. And we don't know whether he is or isn't on the level.

You are right on one level. "Star seeds" and "vibrations" don't validate his honor and morality in my book, but niether do they invalidate them. Truth is only time will allow us to figure that one out. No one, and I mean no one, has offered any solid proof of Obama's connections to the darker side of our reality. This is one of my biggest points of disagreement with George Green and others - the wildcards can't be removed from the deck. I think Green's experiences from his own past are legit and worth learning something from. But I also believe that George Green conveys a perception of the NWO/Illuminati/"insert theory here" power that is exactly how they would want others to percieve it - as all powerful. Understanding that fact is to understand how the darker side of our reality operates. I would argue that they are not "all powerful," and the key to our success as a species is understanding that fact. Secondly, George Green has been laying what he knows out there for a long time - predating Obama's speech at the DNC in 2004 by several years. Simple fact is, George Green is far enough out of the loop that his comments on today's political dynamic are merely educated guesses based on his past experiences. Such distance makes predicting the wildcards ten times harder (if you're counting cards).

As for the bandwagon you don't want to find yourself riding, I would say, choose your words differently. You may not be riding it, but it is hard for us to tell.

[Truth voice 2012]

Im quite worried about this violent defence of obama and Im very suspicious if their is censorship of opinions on ANY subject manner. After everything we have learned about the nwo to this date suggests that presidents have no real power. I feel I need to point out that EARTH HAS BEEN UNDER THE CONTROL OF EVIL ETs FOR THE LAST 6000 YEARS. What difference does one little president in all this. Sweet f**k all in my opinion. Oh well, If ever we wanted proof of mind control NOW we have it. This "obama can do no wrong" stance makes me feel were losing the battle. I do pray that he is a good man but my gut says no.

Originally Posted by Truth voice 2012

If ever we wanted proof of mind control NOW we have it. This "obama can do no wrong" stance makes me feel were losing the battle.

Has anyone here on Avalon argued "Obama can do no wrong"? I've been paying pretty close attention, and I have not come across a single individual who has said that.

If they did they are wrong. But I don't think anyone here is arguing that, are they? Post a link if they are.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by historycircus

"We shouldn't go there"? Let's go. I've packed a lunch for the trip.

Well, I surely misjudged you. If you want to hate then go on. Do whatever you want to.

It serves to make clear that Avalon is populated by those who enjoy hate and those who doesn't.

Originally Posted by historycircus

You are right on one level. "Star seeds" and "vibrations" don't validate his honor and morality in my book, but niether do they invalidate them.

What you mean is that we should let the indoctrination go on, unchallenged? Dude, if you want to say he has high vibrations or that he is a "star seed" then you must provide the evidence!

It's not those who disagree with it that must show you that's wrong. Please PROVE us he is all of that!

We wouldn't have this conversation if you were rational.

[Truth voice 2012]

Originally Posted by historycircus

Has anyone here on Avalon argued "Obama can do no wrong"? I've been paying pretty close attention, and I have not come across a single individual who has said that.

If they did they are wrong. But I don't think anyone here is arguing that, are they? Post a link if they are.

That wasnt a quote it was a decription of the stance that some individuals have taken regarding Obama. All this "yes we can..." s**t Im seeing around the forum gets me alarm bells ringing.

On the subject of censorship. It shouldnt exist. Truth is everything. the positive AND the negative should both be present other wise there is no balance. Even the knobs leaving nasty messages should be left alone. We are here to experience the duality of this existence or else we wont learn.

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

We wouldn't have this conversation if you were rational.

Incredibly well said, I take my leave here good sir.

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

Good for you. Many others are not.



You are on the defensive now. Go through every single Obama thread on Avalon and see what people is talking about, then see what my responses were. You will see that I am speaking sense, and the others cultists are worshiping him for no good reason (as if there were a good reason to worship anyone).

Yes, no good reason. What reason do you have to believe that he is going to be something good? Some people even claim he is super-human, with "orbs or light" around him, or "an indigo child", or a "star seed who resonates with other equal super-humans". It's BS and more BS.

Silence means agreement. That's why I post on those threads.



You are one of those who speak for "positivity", but you hatred for Bush has blinded you. You hate Bush so much that it prevents you from objetively analyzing that guy's record. You will see by his career that he is not a "light worker", he can't face the "illuminati" or PTB or whatever. He has done NOTHING so far to make anybody believe that.

Hate is what fuels the Obamamania. And I am negative? I don't think so.

I know the thread you speak of because my post was deleted. By the mods reasons I guess they want this forum to be more like the town of Stepford.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

Just to let you know. I went against the Obama messiah cult followers and that's what happened.

From now on "be positive"! Yes, accept being thrown down your throat this new messiah, either by the mainstream media or by "avaloners". If you raise questions, then you are being "negative".

Nah, count me out...

I think you know why your access was suspended and instead of complaining to others and accusing them of a conspiracy, you should try and change your approach to others.

Branding them as sheep is unacceptable and you know it and everyone else knows it.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Obama is nothing more than a puppet

We can dream we can hope but be fooled for how long? check out my post on servitude and you will see what I am talking about

Historycircus...............I would love to go along with you but my stomach can't stand the turmoil. I wish it would stop. For one day it seemed settled and that was during his speach when he was elected........thats what I want to believe in. Now it seems just like his speach on race.....too bad he didn't really mean it.

Again, you spend a lot of time like anitcomuna, spreading anti-Obama stuff on here.

I have never seen you contribute anything other than this. You did reply to me regarding collodial silver but this is the only exception of a thread/post that I have seen where you weren't trashing Obama.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by ralok_j

I know the thread you speak of because my post was deleted. By the mods reasons I guess they want this forum to be more like the town of Stepford.

Or maybe they're just sick of the anti-Obama threads/posts and they want to move this forum into the direction it was originally meant to be moved?

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Truth voice 2012

That wasnt a quote it was a decription of the stance that some individuals have taken regarding Obama. All this "yes we can..." s**t Im seeing around the forum gets me alarm bells ringing.

On the subject of censorship. It shouldnt exist. Truth is everything. the positive AND the negative should both be present other wise there is no balance. Even the knobs leaving nasty messages should be left alone. We are here to experience the duality of this existence or else we wont learn.

I don't agree with his choice of Rahm Emanuel and I accepted a long time ago that there would be no way that he would be a messiah or perfect candidate.

What I (and others) are merely hoping for is for him to work to destroy the system (PTB) from within. If he cannot do this, then it just means that I (and probably others) will not vote ever again. I am ready to criticize as well and I participate in at least one website where others worked hard to elect Obama. I will not deny this. There are literally millions of Americans like myself who are going to be watching Obama and every move he makes. And, you'd better believe that we will hold his feet to the fire like any other politician. To me, Obama is the puppet of those who worked to donate to him (in small amounts) with hopes and dreams of their own.

I don't know how old the folks that dislike Obama are, but I am not yet at an age where I'd be cranky, bitter and constantly railing against a system that I felt failed me. I am still quite young (27) and you can call me all kinds of names. I'm sure someone called you all kinds of names when you were my age and surely, you must have been just as optimistic as I am. Don't lie to me and tell me that you've always been the way you were. I'm sure 40 years of Republican control have put a huge damper on your spirits.

What you must understand is that there is a generation that refuses to accept defeat like you did.

I refuse to be truly broken. I refuse to accept defeat and "go home". We all can work together to defeat any menace that we wish. What we must do first is learn to respect each other and I can see that this isn't possible with some people. The "sheep" analogy is a good example of just how you can turn people off to your message forever and create nothing but dissension.

And while we're at it, how come no one challenges Ron Paul the way they challenge Barack Obama? How about all of the Paul supporters on here who openly praise the man for being a good soul? I dare you to tell me why I should support Ron Paul over Barack Obama and I dare you to justify your support and respect for him in the same way that you justify your dislike of Barack Obama.

Regardless, Obama is not a messiah but I refuse to believe that he's the anti-christ as well.

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Branding them as sheep is unacceptable and you know it and everyone else knows it.

Yes, correct sir.. Sheep are to high in the tree of life..

Mushrooms would be closer, less insulting to sheep, and afteral they are the only thing that one can keep in the dark AND feed BS.

btw, censorship? I notice a(nother) thread has been Winstoned(1984) from Existence like it never happened... Gladly I took some sceen shots of it... But then again, something real individual empowering without following the words of a preacher CANT exist.

BTW Rahm Emanuel - Rove -

"2. The administrators, whom we shall choose from among the public, with strict regard to their capacities for servile obedience, will not be persons trained in the arts of government, and will therefore easily become pawns in our game in the hands of men of learning and genius who will be their advisers, specialists bred and reared from early childhood to rule the affairs of the whole world. As is well known to you, these specialists of ours have been drawing to fit them for rule the information they need from our political plans from the lessons of history, from observations made of the events of every moment as it passes. The GOYIM are not guided by practical use of unprejudiced historical observation, but by theoretical routine without any critical regard for consequent results. We need not, therefore, take any account of them - let them amuse themselves until the hour strikes, or live on hopes of new forms of enterprising pastime, or on the memories of all they have enjoyed. For them let that play the principal part which we have persuaded them to accept as the dictates of science (theory). It is with this object in view that we are constantly, by means of our press, arousing a blind confidence in these theories. The intellectuals of the GOYIM will puff themselves up with their knowledges and without any logical verification of them will put into effect all the information available from science, which our AGENTUR specialists have cunningly pieced together for the purpose of educating their minds in the direction we want."

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by TranceAm

Yes, correct sir.. Sheep are to high in the tree of life..

Mushrooms would be closer, less insulting to sheep, and afteral they are the only thing that one can keep in the dark AND feed BS.

You just proved my point. Thanks.

(figure it out for yourself. I do not mean this in a positive way)

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

And while we're at it, how come no one challenges Ron Paul the way they challenge Barack Obama?.

Because for the Americans Ron Paul had to be discredited as a loony and kept out of the news.. (That is exactly what happened.) If one Challenged Ron Paul, He just put out the message as return.. The Message was the Massage, not the gathering around a skin color or a party.

He didn't play "Santa Claus" with promises of all kinds of good things in the "change", That according to Ron Paul, we can't afford. He didn't say that the change we need is some kind of socialist empowering structure to get inline with the worldwide organization of governments, where the government robs from one, and distributes to another.. The only change Ron Paul offered was a change back to follow the constitution empowering the People back to their original places of individual responseblitity... CRAZY.. And according to Micheal Reagan, Everyone thinking that should be SHOT and he would even pay for the Bullets.

Newsflash :
The TItanic has hit a Iceberg,
The Crew and Passengers at the last moment have elected a new man at the helm that will surely save us and our way of life. And if he doesn't save us, he still is Responsible (And because of the color of his skin, Personally Responsible.) for what happens. And the set up is so bad, that he only can fail, unless he becomes WORSE then any white man before him in power..

Hence the buzzwords..
Believe in change (No matter how bad it gets!)
Yes we can (Make this extra sacrifice, what other choice do we have?)

The Americans Failing to massively support (In spite of all the backstabbing by the Political Parties AND the Media.) Ron Paul Or better to Support his message that the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence are in grave danger Have made sure, that the Experiment has Failed. So now we can become one with the global masses.. Handing over unalienable rights, and getting in return "Permissions".

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

You just proved my point. Thanks.

(figure it out for yourself. I do not mean this in a positive way)

Sticks and Stones can break some bones, but words can never hurt me.

Since your Avatar indicates you like Floyd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGurfyISnN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfVFxRsKQc

[Anchor]

Anticomuna has been suspended for 14 days minimum.

This thread has been closed.

There are other postings in this thread that are not in the best interests of Camelot or Avalon.

I ask, please play nice with each-other