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    As for suffering not being necessary for spiritual growth, it appears as though the universe disagrees. Again, to paraphrase Ram Dass- once we discover where we want to go (back to union with universal consciousness/God), all we want is to get rid of the things which keep us separate (greed, lust, hate, sloth, etc.). Well, what better motivation for ridding ourselves of such things than to incarnate into a world full of them and their consequences? ...
    I agree, suffering is of course a necessary part of spiritual growth - the survival of the fittest, the conquering of personal challenges and fears, in rising above them all for forward progression to take place, and thus personal evolution - but it only has a certain degree of effectiveness. The lower astral realms are full of damaged and inert souls where negative, regressive activities, blown out of all proportion, has not progressed them one iota.

    What I was getting at was, these 'suffering experiences', and the environment in which humanity works through these suffering experiences, needn't be so ignorant, dark, and brutal. War, abuse, torture, murder, rape, persecution and just general wanton violence is not, and never has been, a prerequisite for evolution - for any species. Ever. If it were, they would be vaunted and widely cherished tools across the Universe, through which everyone can benefit and eventually enjoy, knowing the rewards. The path of spiritual development is indeed about ridding ourselves of the things that keep us separate, as you say, but the way hence need not be so vicious, and so long.

    I don't fault Universal Law, just Mankind - it's free will run amok. It inflicts all this crap on itself, and all it does, I repeat, is instil a hopeless, endless incarnation cycle of repeating karmic effects. History shows this. Mankind has been at war with itself since first he picked up a club or a rock to beat his neighbour on the head, thousands of years ago. What evolution has he made in all these millennia? He has learned to make bigger clubs, and find harder rocks, and still he beats his neighbour on the head. This is not progression, this is the wheel of karma that just keeps on spinning, and it leads nowhere except more and more needless suffering.

    The action of violence in of itself is not progression or growth. It proves nothing, serves nothing, and solves nothing. The only jump in evolution it will and can ever serve to humanity is the realisation, one day, that it isn't necessary. When Man throws down his weapons, that will enact an evolutionary transition, ending the loop at long last. Then really big changes (and progression) can happen, and bigger and bigger evolutionary jumps! But as long as the human psyche remains wholly ignorant of spiritual reality, or even basic fundamental truths such as karma, he probably will never break out of the abused/abuser pattern.

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    At least from my current level of understanding, the physical universe is a manifestation of a single consciousness. From the perspective of that consciousness, time and space (at least as they apply to the physical universe) are abstractions. They exist only from the perspective(s) of consciousness incarnate within that universe; more or less characters in a dream examining the nature of the dream they find themselves in. From the perspective of the dreamer, the world isn't making any progress and is, in fact, entirely illusory in nature. From the perspective of this particular character in this particular dream at this particular time and place, however, it seems as though the world is approaching some sort of cataclysmic end, (a dis-illusion as it were). From the perspective of the dreamer, this is merely an awakening. From the perspective of the characters in the dream, their world is literally coming apart. To the extent that we continue to identify with our individuated, egoic consciousness we suffer. To the extent that we identify with the unified consciousness underlying individuated consciousnesses as our true nature, we are free from suffering.
    I understand what you're saying and partly agree. But if God is dreaming up the Universe, and everything in it is a dream, then it's not just our 'physical reality' that is an illusion, is it. If there is another 'greater' layer of reality above us, then it must also be an illusion, because there must also be another 'even greater' layer of reality above it. And all the other dimensions must in fact also be illusions. The Spirit realm is therefore another type of illusion. Even the highest angelic spheres of reality are different facets of dream and illusion. Etc. Perhaps God himself/herself/itself is a dream, a dream of something greater, further, higher, than anything we can imagine: an over-God, a Super-God - which is itself just another dream/illusion of something beyond even that... and so it goes on. You really can go on forever, but you can never get very far with that idea. The truth as I personally see It? All that reality really is is dimensions (possibly an infinite number) each vibrating at a different rate. That's it. And we are each an individuated 'consciousness', sliding through these dimensions, from one grade to the next. But no one of these dimensions (even this slow, dark one) is any less 'real' than another.

    'Reality as an illusion' as an idea, is only useful when one comes to the realisation that there is something else beyond it, and above it.

    This reality is a thick, dense, slowly vibrating physical incarnation matrix, and it is perhaps the lowest and deepest form of separation there is. But it's a dimension, therefore a slice of a great reality, a part of the greater whole. But it's still reality, one just as valid as any other - especially to us who are stuck here! Bottom line, metaphysics is great as a thought experiment. But we only have third dimensional tools (the ability to only think with a three dimensional brain, which itself only has three dimensional 'reality' as a frame of reference), so we can never really grasp the big picture. This is reality, because it's the only reality we know while we're here.

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    Read the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion. It lays out exactly how corrupt politicians are put into positions of power and how non-corrupt ones are removed. Basically, control the media and use it to control public opinion. Support politicians who are willing to tow the line, using blackmail and bribery as needed. Undermine politicians who aren't willing to kowtow.
    Exactly. This is why we're in the state we're in. The powers that be, the ultimate high-end of the power elite who pull all the strings, don't want things to change. They love the status quo.

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    Greed is a defining characteristic of people. Sociopaths exhibit this characteristic to a greater degree, but we all have it to one degree or another. People who are struggling to survive tend to only be concerned with basic survival needs. Once those needs are met, however, most people want more. Free energy would indeed alleviate the struggle to survive, but I'd have to agree with xeon, it would also carry with it risks. Free energy also implies unlimited energy, which in turn implies unlimited power. Tesla said he could split the Earth in two, and that was over 100 years ago. Personally, I'd rather that kind of power be kept out of irresponsible hands. Also, if free energy ever does get released to the general public, there would in very short order be no Power Elite. Something they aren't real keen on seeing happen.
    I understand where you're coming from. But they could have kept us all on steam, gas lamps, and coal-burning stoves from 100+ years ago. But we were given electricity, a world-changing new technology. What's more, not long after that, we were given a potentially world-breaking super-technology: atomic power. Of course nuclear energy can be dangerous, a real threat to the Earth, and all of us, when mishandled. But even this terrible danger was not a concern to the elite. Their only concern was how do energy companies benefit? How much profit can be made? Tons of it, as it turns out. I do not believe they fear Free Energy due to any potential harm it might do to us or this planet. Not for a minute. They do not give a jacks**t about us, the Earth, nor anything...but profit. 'Unlimited Power' they would have a handle on if need be, by regulating it carefully (like nuclear) so it could not be abused, either commercially or privately. The only reason it hasn't been rolled out is simply, purely, down to the fact that Free Energy, by definition of it being free, cannot be monetarized. There is no profit in it, certainly none that would come anywhere close to toppling the huge revenues they currently enjoy from exploiting fossil fuels.
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    This song I think reflect the same ideas as in the wonderful video posted by justintime2learn......


    The Wanderers by Lacy J Dalton

    Across the trackless wastes of space and time
    Down through the ages we have come
    The living river that our spirits ride
    A shinging bridge from sun to sun

    Beyond the broad expanses of the galaxies
    The ancient heavens brightly burn
    Ans spanning lightyears we have crossed the cosmoc seas
    Through countless lifetimes we've returned

    We are the Wanderers
    Travelling from stqr to distant star
    Purposely forgetting what ew were and who we are
    Becoming one of you
    As we were destined to
    To bring the light ro you
    We are the wanderers

    Down through unnumbered ages
    Through currents vast and deep
    First a whisper then a roaring
    We come to wake you from your sleep

    From far beyond the reaches of the brightest stars
    The sacred circle was begun
    The living words we sing are part of what we are
    In everything and everyone

    We are the wanderers etc

    Traveling the endless universe
    Awakening your magic with our music and our verse
    We are the Wanderes

    I would love to share the music but can only find half of the song on youtube and have forgotten how to post it.
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    Hi again Star Mariner. For starts I want to be clear that I’m in no way claiming that my beliefs are better or more enlightened or closer to the truth than yours. I’m just trying to relate my experience of the truth, particularly the aspects of my experience which don’t seem to correlate with yours. My intention is not to get caught in any kind debate as to which of our views is more valid or closer to THE TRUTH. I only want to share my experience and my truth in hopes that by comparing notes we can together each reach a better approximation of THE TRUTH.

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    ... What I was getting at was, these 'suffering experiences', and the environment in which humanity works through these suffering experiences, needn't be so ignorant, dark, and brutal. ...
    No, they don’t. There are an infinite number of paths up the mountain. Some are a good deal less arduous than others. For whatever reason some of us appear to have taken on the North Face of the Matterhorn rather than Horni Ridge.

    For some, I imagine, incarnation here is an opportunity to burn off past karma. Vlad the Impaler and Ivan the Terrible are likely to be paying off karmic debts over thousands of incarnations. Some people, Stephan Fry for example, hold the suffering of innocents up as proof that God either doesn’t exist or is sadistic. Looked at from the perspective of that single incarnation it might seem so, but if we could see every incarnation of that soul, I wonder if we would arrive at the same judgement.

    Some others, I imagine, have incarnated here more as a means to help alleviate the suffering of others, rather than to reduce their own karmic debt. For such souls seeing the absolute horror that human beings inflict on each other and the planet is at times nearly unbearable. At such times, reaching out to others along similar paths for moral support, (as you have done) is about the best we can do.

    Bottom line for me though is always that the universe is both intelligent and responsive. It no doubt has a better idea of where it wants to go and how to best get there than I possibly can from my far more limited perspective. So, do what good you can, as best you can from your current level of understanding, and trust that (whether or not it is clear to us) the universe is unfolding as it should.

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    ... This reality is a thick, dense, slowly vibrating physical incarnation matrix, and it is perhaps the lowest and deepest form of separation there is. But it's a dimension, therefore a slice of a great reality, a part of the greater whole. But it's still reality, one just as valid as any other - especially to us who are stuck here! Bottom line, metaphysics is great as a thought experiment. But we only have third dimensional tools (the ability to only think with a three dimensional brain, which itself only has three dimensional 'reality' as a frame of reference), so we can never really grasp the big picture. This is reality, because it's the only reality we know while we're here. ...
    From the perspective of a consciousness incarnate on this plane of existence, yes- the 3D state we experience on a day to day basis is reality. There are, however, tools we can develop while in this state which can help us get unstuck from here. According to most of the spiritual traditions I’ve studied, yes, getting unstuck from this plane only gets us to the astral planes. Getting unstuck from there gets us to the causal plane, and getting unstuck from there finally gets us back to union with Source. I can’t say that any stage along that path is any more valid or real than any other. I can, however, say that the few times I’ve touched those places instilled in me a profound sense of at long last being home and initiated my ongoing efforts to clear away whatever is preventing me from being able to stay there.

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    Star mariner I can absolutely relate to what you are saying and feeling. I feel the same thing every waking minute and it gets harder every day and it seems never ending. Sometimes I think if I didn't have a family to keep me on this earth I'd of been long gone but then again the fact that you,i and the majority of people on this forum are reading your words means we really are all on this big blue ball for a darn good reason. You are MEANT to be where you are right now however **** it feels . Yes the world is mental(i could expand on that but you get my drift ) but we HAVE to go through all this crap,we have to be pushed to our limits or else we can never break through to the other side where freedom is in our midst 😊

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    I do not really have much to give. The answer to your first question depends on what mood im feeling at the present time. Many times, and much to my dismay, I feel the urge to wipe it away because of all the things you mention. The people who say they believe in freedom and peace but not actually at all. They want violence and control for anything they dont identify with.

    In a book called the Crystal Shard by R A Salvatore( a fantasy author) in the Drizzt Do Urden series, there is a group called the wailing friars. And they believe the more suffering they experience for themselves the less suffering there is for the rest of the world. Maybe that is what earth is. A galatic(universal?) wailing facility to suck of the zero sum that is suffering.

    But what I can give you is this

    If you feel like you do, we need you here to help even if it is painful to suffer through. The problem is the people who dont suffer from this place and think everything is dandy.

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    Hi again Star Mariner. For starts I want to be clear that I'm in no way claiming that my beliefs are better or more enlightened or closer to the truth than yours. I'm just trying to relate my experience of the truth, particularly the aspects of my experience which don't seem to correlate with yours. My intention is not to get caught in any kind debate as to which of our views is more valid or closer to THE TRUTH. I only want to share my experience and my truth in hopes that by comparing notes we can together each reach a better approximation of THE TRUTH.
    Well said my friend, that's exactly my position too. I don't even much like the term 'debate', as it tends always to be loaded with the notion of 'sides', one side contesting an argument with another side. I firmly believe we can learn a great deal from each other - each of us on this thread. There certainly are no sides, nor really one truth. I much prefer the word 'chat' to debate, and in our case here merely sharing our grasp, our knowledge, and collected experience. This is definitely the best path to gaining wisdom. Because all I want to do is gain wisdom, and a better understanding of things - whilst also fully taking into account that my present understanding (insight, and belief-system) is not, and cannot, be fixed. It is variable and ever moving. Always moving forward and changing. Because if God is infinite, and God is Wisdom and Knowledge and Love etc, then Wisdom, Knowledge and Love is infinite also. And thus the pursuit of them is infinite.

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    No, they don't. There are an infinite number of paths up the mountain. Some are a good deal less arduous than others. For whatever reason some of us appear to have taken on the North Face of the Matterhorn rather than Horni Ridge.
    Indeed. To wax metaphorical, some have made a choice to tackle that north face, perhaps others, due to karma, have no choice but to tackle it. Others I feel have completely lost their way in the storm, and cannot see that there is a better, smoother, clearer way to the top.

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    For some, I imagine, incarnation here is an opportunity to burn off past karma. Vlad the Impaler and Ivan the Terrible are likely to be paying off karmic debts over thousands of incarnations.
    It is interesting, and I often wonder about these sorts of souls. Where do they end up? Is it possible that a soul can become so dysfunctional and damaged that any hope of salvation is impossible? I don't think impossible - but I do believe the choice to redeem lies with the individual soul. They will only reincarnate to pay off karma if they choose to do so. If they choose not to, then of course, they will stay wherever they are on the lower astral plane and never obtain a higher level. But the innate push to progress in order to reach a higher, better level, is within every soul no matter how dark. But the first step lies with confronting that karma. Even if it takes an eon to make that step, to find the light, it is always available to every soul.

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    Stephan Fry for example, hold the suffering of innocents up as proof that God either doesn't exist or is sadistic.
    Is that what he believes? Stephen Fry is a national treasure. But what a shame to believe so simplistically as that, from such a smart guy as well. The transgressions of Man against Man is not God's fault, but Man's! Like you say, it would be very easy to come to that interpretation (and many many other distortions) when life is viewed through the singular lens of 'you only live one life'. What a completely stupid Universe, and what a complete failure creation would be, if you only got to live one life, one experience in only one point in time (and space) in order to carve out your (seemingly infinite) path to wisdom, humility, compassion, and everything else required for the soul's expansion and fortification as it climbs back to source. It perplexes and frustrates me that such backward thinking still exists in this day and age!

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    According to most of the spiritual traditions I've studied, yes, getting unstuck from this plane only gets us to the astral planes. Getting unstuck from there gets us to the causal plane, and getting unstuck from there finally gets us back to union with Source. I can't say that any stage along that path is any more valid or real than any other. I can, however, say that the few times I've touched those places instilled in me a profound sense of at long last being home and initiated my ongoing efforts to clear away whatever is preventing me from being able to stay there.
    I'd definitely go along with that. I think karma plays possibly the foremost role in our continuing to incarnate here, and to some extent getting stuck. And I don't believe it's some Universal 'force' pushing us constantly back to earth. I just do not buy the whole 'prison planet' hypothesis. I think it's more ourselves compelling ourselves to come back here, because on the other side we know (when we're in that higher state of multi-dimensional consciousness) that being here we are presented with an opportunity to learn all our lessons in the quickest and most effective way. Because of the 'mixing pot' nature of earthly incarnation, there is the widest available blend of experience, particularly negative, to work out our karmic issues. We come back because we need to. Like you said, my goal is to simply do the best I can, with the hope that one day there will be no need to come back again. However, not everyone here is here to work out karma. Some are here (from across the Universe) by choice to help. If I am one, I plan one day, once safely back in the higher realms, to have some harsh words with myself...

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    Star mariner I can absolutely relate to what you are saying and feeling. I feel the same thing every waking minute and it gets harder every day and it seems never ending. Sometimes I think if I didn't have a family to keep me on this earth I'd of been long gone but then again the fact that you,i and the majority of people on this forum are reading your words means we really are all on this big blue ball for a darn good reason.
    Absolutely, there's always a reason for everything. There really is no such thing as chance, accident, or coincidence. Our being here is not a cosmic fluke (or joke, though it seems to feel like that sometimes!) We are all definitely here for a reason, and we knew and understood that reason (and the plan) before we came into these lives. I try to keep in mind all the time that the best and simplest philosophy to have is to just 'do one's best'. No one can ask any more of us. And also to remember that this life, no matter how tiring, mundane, or harrowing, is just a wink of an eye, one tiny, infinitely brief snapshot, of our huge, multi-dimensional, and immortal existence. And what's more, in the here and now, there's countless millions out there far, far worse off than us, who would swap places with us in a heartbeat. Always look on the bright side of life!
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    Just some observations.

    People draw lines starting at one point and extending in one direction like this:



    In nature, however, lines tend to extend in both directions (dark gives rise to light and high gives rise to low), like this:



    Also, the canvas upon which the universe paints appears to be non-euclidean, ie- it turns in on itself, like this:



    A convenient short hand for that concept might look something like this:


    Add to that the concept of change, which can be represented as motion or spin and you get something like this:



    Simplify that back to a 2D symbol and you get this:



    What I take from this is something like this: In order for the manifest universe to exist the formless became the formed. God without attributes, became God with attributes. The zero became the one and the one became the many. Since this transformation gave rise to time, space and everything in it, the unmanifest itself must exist beyond time and space. That is, it is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, everywhere and nowhere, everywhen and nowhen. From the perspective of that consciousness everything that has happened and everything that will happen exists in the now.

    In order for the manifest universe to exist, that consciousness must have created individuated sparks of itself and set them in motion, some away from itself and an equal number returning to itself. Those on an outward trajectory, greater separation, pursue the path of power, service toward self. Those on an inward trajectory, greater union, pursue the path of love, service toward others (actually, I prefer the term service toward all). It’s still all ultimately one consciousness observing itself from an infinite number of perspectives.

    So, do some souls spiral into darkness so far as to become irredeemable? Doubtful, I think. In that such a trajectory would be unidirectional, which doesn’t correlate with my observations as to the nature of the universe and how it functions.

    Can you or I halt the world at large’s continued descent into darkness? Not likely, but it’s certainly worth a try. For starts, the universe does have a sense of humor and enjoys a good laugh. The idea that you or I is going to alter the course of universal laws or the cosmic cycle of rising and falling one iota is ludicrous. Still, those cycles go through their motion as the result of the collective actions of individuals. My job, as I see it, in this incarnation is to open my heart and help others open theirs. If by some chance our collective contributions prove enough to tip the scales from their downward spiral, then I’ll be grateful for the opportunity to have been part of that. If not, then I’ll be grateful for the opportunity to have tried (and probably put in a requisition for a somewhat easier assignment next time around).
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    As in Michael Newtons books on reincarnation I think we choose ourselves the severity of the challenges we meet in different lifetimes; sometimes we "rest" and other times we take on heavy burdens or a mix of both and it all comes down to spiritual evolution and maturity.
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    I have been feeling down recently. Nothing seems to change, nothing ever seems to get better. The world is stuck in a rut of just endless misery and sameness and war. When will it ever end?

    The present regime and the Powers That Be cling on. I do not believe they will ever change, nor relinquish their hold on this planet. I look upon the leaders of the so called 'Free World' and I see little to no hope of progress from them. In fact I see the opposite. There's probably not been a single day in 5,000 years when a war, battle, or conflict was not happening somewhere in the world. I cannot see any downtrend to the violence. War will continue, and perhaps increase, as will restrictions on our freedom, and the suppression of the truth. As the transhumanist nightmare unravels and begins to flourish, I do not see more people waking up, I see those that are sleeping falling into an even deeper sleep.

    I was listening to Cameron the other day, with regards the immigration crisis in Europe. I also heard what Merkel and Obama were saying. Later, on a different note, I listened to the diatribes of Trump and Clinton on their rallies - all because these are the so-called 'leaders', and those seeking to be leaders, of the so-called 'Free World'. Are these the wisest, most qualified, most righteous people that Earth has to offer in her time of such crisis?

    I used to be amused when political elections came on TV, listening to all the rhetoric and false promises, and watching all the bright eyed, smiling supporters whooping, dancing and holding banners. Now it just makes me very tired, and very miserable. The flag-waving masses are sadly, utterly deluded still, after all the regimes and administrations, after all these years. Will they not ever learn? We they not ever figure it out? They are without awareness, and seemingly without a single iota of intelligence. Same for all the experts, commentators and pundits. Can't the people see that what we need in our leaders is honesty, peace, love, and wisdom, and a smidgeon of spiritual awareness at least? None of them have any of these things. All the sleeping masses are cheering is just another puppet of the system, a puppet replacing the previous puppet of the same system. It doesn't matter what party you support, or what colour flag you wave. There is no multi-party system. There is no democracy. Republican, democrat, socialist, liberal - whatever label you like. There is only one party, (with only superficial facets), with one philosophy, and one drive: to control, dominate, and control some more, and at all costs to sustain the status quo. What the flag-wavers are cheering, and will ultimately vote for, is for nothing to change, and for nothing to improve. For just more of the same…

    The more I think (brood) about it, the more I think that there is no way, there can be no other way the world will have an opportunity to change - for humanity to at last unite and move forward in both peace and freedom - unless there's some sort of big, watershed event to remove this current system of ours. The pressing of a global reset button. For Gaia Herself perhaps to rebel against the infestation that is damaging her so gravely. Potentially something, dare I say, cataclysmic.

    In order for a new world to begin, the old world must end. I ask an almost unthinkable question here. Is it insane, is it so very very wrong, to actually want this to take place? The thought horrifies me. Because I have reached the dreadful point now where I do not think there is any other way. Of course I don't want anyone to suffer, anyone to die. But without a reset, is there any other way - is there any other way at all except yet another century, or several centuries, of the so-called State subjugating, enslaving, poisoning and terrorising its own people? How much more can we take?

    Minor progress here and there with articles and essays and youtube videos to educate and inform is all well and good. It's very good, but how much difference does it make? How much improvement has decades of light work and free thinking really done? Is it working? Is it helping the wider world, the WHOLE world, or just the tiny awake portion of it? We need a massive paradigm shift. The wealth of the world needs to be divided. We need disclosure, and a whole new regime of peace, fairness, and transparency. For years we have been working, hoping, visualising and meditating for this change. Perhaps we slowly shuffle forward inch by inch in global consciousness towards that eventual change. But by the time we get there, will it be too late? At this rate Earth will be so over-populated by 2100, even by 2050, its air, water, and climate so ravaged that maybe it will be uninhabitable. The progress we are making might not be quick enough.

    We need sweeping changes. Now! I don't see anyone inside the current political method rising through the ranks to initiate and enforce the sweeping changes we want to see in the world. TPTB won't allow it. Can it come from someone outside then? Perhaps. But would an outside, independent force have the capacity to impose or inspire such a sweeping change? I doubt it. So what is the answer? Is there really any hope anymore? Without change, we ARE doomed. Where and how can the changes come? From Gaia? From the Universe. From ETs? Our destiny I suppose is in our own hands. But is there any way we can effectively, fundamentally, free ourselves and save ourselves, and our civilization?

    So the terrible question. I ask you all this terrible question: For the benefit of our species, and the very survival of Earth itself, the world MUST change, and it must change profoundly, and soon. But if the only way this change could come about was through some sort of natural catastrophe, the reset button to wipe the slate clean by way of massive Earth-Changes, would you want it to happen?? Think about it, because it may mean your life, and everything you know and hold dear.

    Sorry to be on such a downer, but I'm feeling very sad about the world at the moment. More than I ever have. I would gladly give up my life (and go home) for things to change. Because I really don't want to be here anymore.
    Hey mate, my name is Elias. I am from Australia, I joined here at 16. My world started getting crushed and happened at the end of 2012.. Getting kicked out in year 9..
    I was kicked out of home, suffered everyday. Hit rock bottom, saw death, suffering, junkies losing hope... My thoughts are, if NO ADVERSITY HAPPENED TO ME. NO SUFFERING, NO CHANCE TO RISE ABOVE THE DARKNESS. I wouldn't be as strong as i AM TODAY. With no grandparents, a mother suffering for years and is now gone.. Endless physical fights with people.. I have grown to appreciate life, and live in the moment.. I graduated in 2015.. And have now just finished my first trimester Of naturopathic medicine.. (Naturopathy). People have stated that the biggest enemy is our selves, humans.. It's true, i know people my age and younger that have given up and just want to be rich. I CANT HELP MY SELF BUT WANT TO HELP OTHERS. I HEAR PEOPLE SAY LIVE FOR YOURSELF AND **** OTHERS! No man no, It's our duty to save as many people as possible. So we don't sink, so there's hope for us.. I wanna carry this darkness and burden. I WANT TO RIDE THE AGES OF THE WINDS, AND THE STORM.. I want to go out with a big damn bang, to know i HAVE helped and created a change, a domino effect persay. I'm going to get recognised over here in Australia for my efforts in Naturopathy. I want to heal till I cant heal no more.. I saved my self, I got out of the destructive hole of violence... Juvenile prison was wake up for me, to go back. Make up for my sin, and rise above the darkness I was shrouded around for some time.. I'M SICK OF PEOPLE THINKING THEY'RE ENTITLED. THEY ARENT, THE WORLD DOESN'T OWE YOU ****! WE OWE IT, AND IF IT DEARLY IS MY DAMN LIFE THEN SO BE IT. I'VE CAUSED ENOUGH bad back then to go, but no.. I was given a god damn 2nd chance.. And that's why I damn changed. I no longer care for materialist things.. I just want to damn help people and get people out of that rut... All i want to think about is to get qualified and bug the **** out to America, to help people over there too. I want to get MY **** ROLLING, I DONT WANT TO WAIT RIGHT NOW.. SITTING AROUND STUDYING/WATCHING PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK TALK ****.. I want to get out to this big bad world, and actually try to put a damn dint in it.. I want to change it up, and if it's the health system, (alternative/biomedicine/mainstream/conventional... Thats my aim, but in due time.. I just dont want things to heat up too soon, I want to be there.. I dont want my efforts to be futile, although socialising and giving people advice about their lives and what to change. Comforting them too in their darkest nights, its damn enouugh for me. Just interacting with eachother and lifting them UP IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME, social exchanges are beautiful and vibrant. BUT I WANT MY abilities to heal create change/effect so others can feel it and show that what they are applying to themselves work.. And is passed down traditionally... I comfort you Star Mariner, I truly love you.. But man YOU ARE HERE... you need to reflect... The moment I realised i wanted to help people for eternity on this plane, was the moment i seriously got into Naturopathy. Although Alternative medicine is slandered by bio/conventional medicine. IT'S HUGE HERE IN AUSTRALIA, AND AMERICA... I see SURGES OF PEOPLE CHANGING, BECOMING MORE AWARE... IT MAKES ME CONTINUE, GO ON THRIVE AND BECOME THE PERSON I WANT TO BE.. To help the best I can.. TO KNOW I DIDN'T GIVE UP LIKE OTHERS, THE EXAMPLE OF CHANGE. I WANT TO STAY IN HIGH DENSE CITIES, it's where the people MOST NEED IT! Im seeing people my age, realising more and are just becoming more sharper... Like there growing and developing its such a great sight too see. Although I would love a partner/girlfriend... Its been since 2013 since ive had one.... I can see what your coming from... Thanks for your post man. THE WINDS ARE JUST PICKING UP, AND WE'RE NOT DONE YET MAN... YOU KEEP GOING, YOU KEEP THAT FIRE THAT BURNS WITHIN YOU STRONG, FOR YOU GOT A FIERCE FLAME MY MAN... AND EVERYONE ELSE ON HERE TOO, INCLUDING MYSELF!
    Only those who get back on their feet and look forward will have the last laugh, the only winner. To the loved ones that we've lost along the way... and to the hope that we see them again... someday.

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    I remember your enthusiasm your hope your kindness, no matter how low the vibrations get rise above it all- know you will be tested and you will triumph- so did your life parents give up everything so that you could learn and thrive through adversity? -how wonderful -how much they love you. I cannot imagine having that much strength. It is good to acknowledge the help we have all received from soul mates.

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    I remember your enthusiasm your hope your kindness, no matter how low the vibrations get rise above it all- know you will be tested and you will triumph- so did your life parents give up everything so that you could learn and thrive through adversity? -how wonderful -how much they love you. I cannot imagine having that much strength. It is good to acknowledge the help we have all received from soul mates.
    Adversity is natural.. It just hit me younger thats all. Mum was already sick and was pushing above her years, she should have been dead in 2010. But kept pushing for some insurmountable reason, the sheer will power continued for her to live on. She lived years later than predicted getting poisioned by bio, right till her her death bed on special K. (Ketamine). And pumped with sodium chloride till her last breaths, in twitching fits me holding her arm. She wanted out and knew everything was okay. And it was She cant believe how much we all changed, especially my self..
    Only those who get back on their feet and look forward will have the last laugh, the only winner. To the loved ones that we've lost along the way... and to the hope that we see them again... someday.

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    Thank you Megrubbieswet for your tale. That's a startling, disturbing, and obviously traumatic life you've led. I can only add to what kirolak said: kudos for your recovery and the subsequent revelations you've had, about yourself, the world, and what life's all about. I extend my deepest respect to you for the work you're doing!
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
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