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    Can't they find better actors when they know the world is watching them?? Check out this clown, he should get his money back from the drama school he went to.



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    Quote Posted by workingactor (here)
    Some of you may think me callous for saying this..but why didn't anyone in the crowd try to take the shooter(s) out? Florida is VERY gun-friendly. Lots of CCW-holders. Lots of MA-trained people. Why not rush the perps if you're going down anyway? A lot of things here not making sense..
    . . .

    ???

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    A bird's eyes view of the "election-yard" from the Saker:
    [...]
    One more thing about guns: not only are homosexuals usually known to be easy victims (this is the reason why cowards love to attack them – they usually don’t fight back), but under Florida law it is illegal to bring a firearm into bar. So bar, just as schools, are legal “gun free zones” which makes them ideal for mass shootings and makes it possible for one single shooter to shoot 50 or more people. In Florida, these “gun free zones” are pretty much the only places where you can hope to shoot a lot of people safely, everywhere else the chances of somebody shooting right back at you are rather high as there are no less than 1,477,675 people legally licensed to carry a weapon in Florida (the highest figure in the USA). Concealed weapon carriers include all races, all age groups, males and females from any and all social groups. This is why it has become rather dangerous to start shooting people in Florida, because chances are somebody nearby will shoot right back at you. That is a paradox – “gun free zones” have turned into honeypots for all sorts of mass shooters. That is also something the imperial media will never tell you.
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    Bumpity bump...

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    registration for business name PULSE has expired several years ago , and more dodgey details

    (thanks John)

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    Just a brief comment on Florida legal concealed carry (license holder) into an establishment where alcohol is served.

    The question is if the CLUB called PULSE incidentally served alcohol, but it's purpose was a meeting place, for dance, song.. then the ambiguous portions of Florida law say it IS OK for a legally registered person to carry their legal concealed gun into the establishment provided they stay out of the BAR area.

    There are plenty of restaurants and clubs which have liquor licenses and can sell legally alcohol. And they may even have a bar section. And they can have a dance floor section (with tables)..

    Quote The BAR: Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose.

    (Unfortunately, this law is ambiguous and appears to be subject to interpretation with regard to restaurants with bars or other places licensed to serve alcohol which serve other purposes such as casinos and other places of entertainment. (i.e. "clubs")

    We (uslawshield.com) have researched this issue including contacting the concealed weapons division of the Florida Department of Agriculture and have received this response:

    Quote There is little doubt that the language in section 790.06(12)(a)12 restricts the carrying of firearms in bars, taverns, and so on. Clearly, these are establishments that are generally licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises. However, it is the phrase that occurs at the end of subparagraph 12—“ which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose”—that appear to qualify the restriction in such a way as to allow the carrying of firearms in restaurants or similar businesses that primarily serve food but that also happen to serve alcohol as well. In other words, a restaurant may in fact have a bar where alcohol is dispensed for consumption on the premises.

    However, the serving area in the restaurant where patrons are dining would not constitute the part of the establishment primarily devoted to the sale and consumption of alcohol.

    Patrons in that restaurant who may happen to have concealed weapon licenses would, of course, be restricted from carrying their firearms in the bar of the establishment.
    While this letter and its opinion are not authoritative, the general sense is that concealed weapons may be legally carried by a CWFL holder into a business that serves alcohol but not as a primary business, however a concealed weapons carrier should stay out of portions of that business where the service of alcohol is the primary function, i.e., the bar area of a restaurant.)
    The PULSE "CLUB" could potentially qualify as an establishment where the patrons COULD have brought concealed weapons to protect themselves.

    BUT the point is I suppose, the folks there would NOT want to in the eyes of love, have fear or worry that a concealed weapon would be necessary.. Contrary to a belief that "protection is necessary". As I pointed out in an earlier post, the PULSE CLUB itself may have a no weapons policy restricting patrons from carrying any weapon into the establishment.

    If as pointed out by Hervé that BARS are becoming a place for an easy target for a shooter to use for their assault, there are numerous other areas as well, such as shopping centers where concealed carry doesn't seem to be being used for the patrons/shoppers to defend themselves against armed assailants. (i.e. shooting in Kenya shopping center, hostage situation:

    Quote On Saturday 21 September 2013, unidentified gunmen attacked Westgate shopping mall, the most upscale mall in Nairobi, Kenya.

    The attack resulted in at least 67 deaths, and more than 175 people were reportedly wounded in the mass shooting.

    The extremist Islamic group al-Shabaab claimed responsibility for the incident
    Who will defend us? Wherever we go? Who?

    Do we want the armed military, or armed police force as in Israel, or Germany, walking around with their own Military assault weapons?

    I recall quite clearly, walking around in the airport in Frankfurt Germany in 1987, seeing in full military gear military protection.. I AM not MSM. What I personally saw was there. What I observe is what I note, and what I get from associates who are there, first hand, such is relayed.

    Armed security everywhere with a disarmed society? Is that the scenario that is coming? Can't we protect ourselves? or are we going to rely on a non-existent "cop on every corner".

    I agree with Hervé that "al-mateen" should have been stripped of his security license, his gun registration. That the assailant managed to be "ignored" officially says he could very well have been one chosen to "have his buttons pushed", for the "AGENDA".

    Who instituted the "AGENDA" can be debated no question. But it should be determined clearly, not just hypothesized as a generalization which does dis-service to rational thought.

    ==update==

    While pointing out the potential for a shooter situation to exist at a shopping center, in Amarillo Texas as we write this, there is a possible shooter/hostage situation happening. (apparently an employee has taken someone hostage)

    If the patrons WERE armed they most likely could have protected themselves, and stopped the hostage taker/potential-shooter at the outset.


    The hostage taker now is reported as dead, "threat terminated" - a Somalian man ex-Walmart employee (killed by S.W.A.T. apparently).

    There was a live feed at LINK

    I had asked in an earlier post, when the name "al-mateen" was brought up, was that action by the "al-mateen" a key trigger to activate others, maybe sleepers?

    The question of "who's agenda" is being played out is a valid question, objectivity please.
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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    The Huffington Post Bloggers Club is offering up to $25,000 for hard evidence that the June 12 Orlando massacre was staged (consider here, here).
    Please tell the HuffPo Club to issue the $25 K check post haste. I will send them my name, address and other details they need. One does not need evidence that Omar Mateen received weapons from the FBI, or that he was hypnotized by the CIA. One doesn't need to see crisis actors involved on the scene. One just needs to listen to the media.

    I didn't hear about the incident until I was driving my car at 2 pm in the afternoon, listening to National Public Radio. After some basics on the story in Orlando, they interviewed Prof. Brian Levin, a criminologist attorney in the Dept. of Criminal Justice at California State University in San Bernardino. Speaking at the time when people are still traumatized and comprehending what had just happened, Levin did everything in his power to connect the event to ISIS, to mention there name over and over and over again, as the inspiration and cause of the crime, even thought there was no evidence that Mateen ever met anyone connected to this group or had any training with them or any form of communication. It was obviously important for Levin to direct our energy, our sense of who is responsible, to a group that is almost entirely contained in an area 6,000 miles away from Orlando.

    And what happens? The next day Trump blames then incident on the "fact" the U.S.A. has abandoned Israel. In a TV interview:
    Quote
    “We have generals, that feel we can win this thing so fast and so strong, but we have to be furious for a short period of time, and we’re not doing it!” Trump complained on Fox & Friends Monday morning.

    “Are you saying hit Raqqa right now?” asked host Brian Kilmeade. “We’re going to have to start thinking about something,” Trump replied.
    Meanwhile, Hilary Clinton states:

    Quote “We should keep the pressure on ramping up the air campaign.”
    A false flag does not have to be a completely controlled and fake event, it can be a real event, but the reporting of it is utterly twisted and misrepresented.

    If there were a shooting at a gay night club and the shooter was not Moslem, we would probably suspect that the came from a conservative, homophobic religious background and had issues with their own sexuality which led to mental illness and ended in violence. But the press war mongering Western press would not speculate on that option, just focusing on ISIS. The only people to turn up the goods on this was Russian Today:

    Quote Orlando shooter had ‘gay tendencies’, claims his ex-wife

    Several witnesses have come forward saying they frequently spotted Mateen in gay bars and on a gay messaging app, while his former wife Sitora Yusufiy had told Brazilian television that he had “gay tendencies”.

    click here for rest of article
    So there you have it Ladies and Gentlemen, this is absolutely a false flag, all you have to do to examine the evidence is open an American newspaper, listen to an American radio station or watch an American news broad cast. The CIA, through their Project Mockingbird information distribution system has conveniently made the mind control programming you deeply crave available where ever you look. The U.S.A. has more that half of the military might and armaments in the world and the only think to keep them from using it is a wimpish desire on the part of American people for something as trite and quaint as "world peace." They are there to help you mourn the lost of 50 people and translate this into action that will cause the death of 50,000 people on the other side of the Earth, and to convince you that they are related, and that the fact that war generates untold wealth for a few campaign supporters is mere coincidence, as is that fact that we are achieving the geopolitical objects of our dear friends in Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    Exactly when will I receive that check???

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    Viking, I have to ask what you mean when you say these shooting are meant to "push the Gay agenda" ??? We have same sex marriage here in the U.S.A., we have gay and lesbian people serving in the military. These are done and closed deal, and I don't think there are any more burning gay issues left. What are you referring to?
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    It's always interesting to read the MSM headlines after one of these false flags, to see the agendas being pushed and what campaigns are coming up, as they are integral parts of the pysop. Here's a couple:

    "Jihad in Orlando: How Can We Prevent Another Pulse Massacre?"

    "Orlando nightclub shooter: Phones, computer examined for clues"

    The first one is a doozy. A "jihad" in the Magic Kingdom. It's concluded in the headline that a "Muslim" did this horrible act in the Land of Mickey. How can we prevent another one? Why, by invading more Muslim countries of course!

    The second one offers another solution to the created problem: Examine phones and computers. Everyone's! Submit to loss of all your private information to prevent another "Jihad!"

    Here's another one, combining all the ingredients:

    "Muslim terrorist kills French cop, wife while livestreaming on Facebook"

    EEK! Another Mooozlum slaughtering innocent people! I sure hope Facebook can provide LAW ENFORCEMENT and SECURITY with valuable information to battle evil Moozlums!!

    And people lap it up as truth.

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    Quote Posted by Althena (here)
    Can't they find better actors when they know the world is watching them?? Check out this clown, he should get his money back from the drama school he went to.


    LOL. That really is bad. That's Gene Rosen-bad. Same fake voice, lack of tears and phony emoting.

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    Viking, I have to ask what you mean when you say these shooting are meant to "push the Gay agenda" ??? We have same sex marriage here in the U.S.A., we have gay and lesbian people serving in the military. These are done and closed deal, and I don't think there are any more burning gay issues left. What are you referring to?
    You need to write to Carl Herman as per post on this one ... 'No gay issues' ... Another topic my friend.

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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    This absolutely demands every adult male in the USA now carry side arms. I personally absolutely support those advocating gun ownership.

    This event in my opinion is just another managed slaughter.

    THREE HOURS before the SWAT team went to work! Are you kidding! The gunman could have died of old age and starvation by the time those good 'ol boys came to the rescue. Pathetic.

    Apparently, the security services were warned three days prior to this event that something was going to happen.

    The power of the USA no longer resides in Washington, which of itself is a foreign territory but in Europe and Israel.

    I will never accept this man worked alone. I am already convinced that once this investigation starts digging, we will see the fingers pointing once again at one salacious group masquerading as friends and benevolent partners.

    I also believe there is a coups d'état taking place before the eyes of Americans and they are blind to it. You are not alone as the same is true here in Europe.
    Had it been a little old man selling raw milk on his tiny farm the SWAT team would have been there before the teat left his hand.
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    Question Re: Mass shooting at Orlando Gay Nightclub and the James Wesley Howell's case

    very disturbing if true ...

    Orlando Gunman's Wife Tried To Talk Him Out Of Attack | NBC News

    "Omar Mateen's wife Noor tried to talk her husband out of carrying out the attack, according to federal agents."

    Published on Jun 14, 2016


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    Starting by giving love and sympathy to the victims and relateds of this act of violence.

    The murderers father is right when he say: "Judgement is onto God/Allah, not the servants".

    His son was a "closet" homosexual, and faced problems in dealing with that,
    his background taken into account. Shame, and being persuaded that only
    going extreme to pay for those sinful urges.
    One see the same pattern in the "terrorists" in EUrope. Outsiders and
    smalltime criminals regretting their lifestyle, and are given an extreeme way
    to repent them selves and maybe be worthy of forgiveness from their own father
    - or The Father.

    Very curious he was given entrance with the weapons, after a (short) arguement.
    And he was cleared to work for G4S "security"-company .
    ( all of the above can be documented )

    well, well
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    be well, all
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    Homophobic mass murderer not political terrorist attack ?


    'Gay tendencies' Orlando shooter visited LGBT club & used special dating apps - reports



    Published on 14 Jun 2016

    The rapidly-shifting theories behind what motivated Orlando nightclub shooter Omar Mateen
    suggests he may have been struggling with his sexuality and frequented the nightclub he
    eventually attacked. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/7fg5

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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    Orlando gunman 'tried to pick up men' in gay bar he attacked

    8 hours ago



    Gunman Omar Mateen was reportedly a regular customer at the gay bar in Orlando
    where he shot and killed 49 people early on Sunday.Pulse club patron Jim Van Horn
    said he recognised Mateen from a photograph, and recalled talking to him.

    "Everybody knew his name. Omar," he said. "He was a homosexual and he was
    trying to pick up men."


    Read more


    Orlando killer Omar Mateen 'visited Pulse gay club'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36527946

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    Was Orlando nightclub shooter a closeted homosexual? Did ex-wife known of attack plans?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsuBq1VEfZc

    Published on 14 Jun 2016

    The rapidly shifting theories about what motivated Orlando nightclub shooter Omar
    Mateen suggests he may have been struggling with his sexuality: He frequented
    the nightclub he eventually attacked, used gay dating apps and had may have
    asked male coworkers out romantically. Meanwhile, Mateen’s wife is under FBI
    scrutiny as revelations that she may have known of the attack prior are coming out.
    RT America’s Marina Portnaya has the latest from Florida.

    Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/

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    Orlando shooting latest in long history of violence against LGBTQ in US

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedXnmS9D4M

    Published on 14 Jun 2016

    The mass shooting at Orlando’s Pulse Nightclub appears to be targeted towards
    members of the LGBTQ community and the latest chapter of a long history of
    violence in America based on sexual orientation and gender identity, with 20
    percent of hate crimes recorded by the FBI in 2014 targeted at them. For more on
    this, Jay Brown, director of communications for the Human Rights Campaign, the
    largest civil rights organization and advocacy group for LGBTQ Americans, joins RT
    America’s Simone Del Rosario.

    Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/

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    Identity or ideology?: The psychology behind the Orlando shooting

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A19bCiioiMc

    Published on 14 Jun 2016

    The shooter of the Orlando gay club appears to have been a regular there, raising
    questions as to whether he was a homosexual ashamed of identifying himself as
    such. Meanwhile, the conversation around his proclamations of allegiance to Islamic
    State rages on in the media. So what motivated the attack? Wendy Patrick, a noted
    expert in hate crimes and Psychology Today contributor, discusses with RT
    America’s Simone Del Rosario.

    Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/
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    The $25,000 is safe. Might as well make it a million dollars, or ten million. This so-called reward is meaningless. None of us have sufficient, if any, evidence to prove that this tragic event was staged by Mateen's handlers. Sure, there are some good and often compelling factors to point to and to seriously draw into question the official story, but none of that is proof. As is typical--like 9/11 and other such events--the official explanation, drummed into our psyches by the MSM and incessant repetition, will become the "proof." But that's OK, we can all go back to sleep now.

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    From this post http://humansarefree.com/2016/06/8-c...ando-mass.html


    8 Clues Indicating Orlando Mass Shooting Is A False Flag Operation
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    Are we looking at an Orlando false flag with the recent mass shooting at Pulse (a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida) where over 50 people were reportedly killed?

    by Makia Freeman | bonus by Alexander Light

    False flag attacks happen in the US with a certain and predictable regularity. It has been awhile since the last major false flag attack on US soil (San Bernardino), interspersed with one in Europe (Brussels).

    In recent years, the NWO manipulators throw a false flag operation into the mix every so often for numerous reasons.



    A first is to ensure the public doesn’t forget about being scared of being attacked anywhere at any time in their home towns.

    A second is to ensure the public doesn’t forget to continue being afraid of the bogeyman du jour (in this case ISIS or Islamic terrorism, better named Zio-Islamic terrorism in deference to the real force [Zionism] behind it).

    A third is to target different places (schools, movie theaters, nightclubs, etc.) and different segments (gays, teachers, etc.) in and of society, so that everyone starts to feel personally threatened by the specter of a mass shooting or bombing, because they identify more with that type of place or segment.

    A fourth is gun control: the continuing agenda which has been greatly accelerated under Obama for the US to override the 2nd Amendment, forbid gun ownership and bring US laws into “harmonization” with those of the Rockefeller-influenced UN.

    A fifth is distraction: the NWO social engineers time these events to keep other important topics out of the news (such as the ongoing and nefarious efforts to pass the TPP, TTIP, TISA, CETA and other giant “free-trade” agreements to further enslave the average citizen).

    There are other reasons, but that’s a brief summary.

    With all that in mind, let’s take a look at some of the specifics of the Orlando mass shooting case. Here are some salient points indicating that the Orlando mass shooting may be a false flag operation:

    Orlando False Flag Clue #1: Alleged Killer Worked for G4S

    The notorious G4s is a British multinational private security company, the world’s largest by revenue. It has already been exposed as having ties with Israel, and the security-intellignece apparatus of the US-UK-Zionist axis (CIA, MI6, Mossad).

    For instance, G4S was helping Israel with its prisons before recently pulling out due to unfavorable publicity (thanks to the BDS movement). It is therefore rather intriguing that the suspected mass killer/shooter (or patsy) Omar Mateen, a 29 year old Muslim man, has been a G4S employee since 2007.

    Here is the official statement from G4S:
    “Omar Mateen was employed by G4S at a residential community in South Florida and was off-duty at the time of the incident. Mateen was subject to detailed company screening when he was recruited in 2007 …”
    G4S is connected to 9/11 and Guantanamo too, as this article on Washington’s Blog states:
    “Previously called Securicor, G4S provided security at all three airports affected by the 9/11 attacks. Securicor/G4S had bought Argenbright Security — the 9/11 airport security firm — just nine months before the 9/11 attacks. The company later ran operations at Guantanamo Bay.”
    Orlando False Flag Clue #2: Alleged Killer Already Known to the FBI

    With so many of these false flag events, the killers or patsies are already known to the FBI or other intelligence agencies. The FBI knew about Mateen; they evaluated his potential for terrorism by interviewing him at least two different times.

    You may recall that the FBI has become famous of late for its “sting operations”, where it has knowingly and willingly orchestrated fake terrorist acts to supposedly make us safer, while at the same time entrapping gullible people to play along and justifying its own existence.

    You can read more on the subject here: 94% Of All Terrorist Attacks Are Invented By The FBI

    Orlando False Flag Clue #3: Alleged Killer Shot Before He Could Speak or Be Tried

    Dead men tell no tales. Omar Mateen has been shot, so we’re never going to hear his side of the story. This is certainly not the first time this has happened.

    Orlando False Flag Clue #4: Supposed Pledged Allegiance to ISIS

    ISIS is the pet Frankenstein of the New World Order, so you can thoroughly expect the ISIS card to be played at false flag events to further (and falsely) cement in people’s minds the idea that ISIS is a real and imminent threat to America.

    It is patently obvious to many by now that ISIS-IS-ISIL-Daesh is a US-Israeli creation. Just like Islamic terrorists supposedly chanting “Allah Akbar” every time before they kill, the pledge of allegiance to ISIS has become a standard ingredient in the recent Western false flag recipe.

    Orlando False Flag Clue #5: Drill Occurred 3 Months Prior in Orlando

    You know the drill. Same time, same place, same event. With this Orlando mass shooting, there was a MCI (Mass Casualty Incident) drill that occurred 3 months ago, although there is not much information about the nature of it.

    Orlando False Flag Clue #6: 666 Numerology

    As with almost all false flag attacks, there is a numerological marker to the Orlando false flag event. The attack took place yesterday on June 12th, 2016, written in American English as 6/12/2016.

    There is a 6, then five central digits (1 + 2 + 2 + 0 + 1) which equal 6 when added together, then an ending 6, making a 666.



    The occult symbolism of this number is painted all over Illuminati and other Secret Society events. Coincidence? You decide.

    Orlando False Flag Clue #7: More Than 50 Dead

    Another reason to suspect the official narrative of the Orlando mass shooting is simply the alleged numbers of dead victims.

    More than 50 dead? The greatest number of dead people in the US since 9/11?

    So how does a security guard manage to possess the training and prowess to kill that many people in that short a time?

    We come across the same loophole in the official story of Sandy Hook, where skinny kid Adam Lanza is supposed to have shot and killed 26 people in record time.

    As Kevin Barrett writes:
    “More than 50 dead? Only one shooter? And the guy was not even a special forces professional, but a flaky security guard?! (Who just happened to be on all the National Security radar screens, like so many others now-proven patsies.) Sorry, MSM, that doesn’t pass the smell test.

    “It’s funny how almost all “Muslim terrorists” are either ridiculously ultra-competent supermen able to take down skyscrapers and blow up the Pentagon using a couple of package-openers as their only weapons; kill ludicrously large numbers of people in mass shootings without any military training; or otherwise perform amazing feats of mass carnage… or else they are the world’s LEAST competent destruction-wreakers, dufuses who can’t get a match lit to try to blow up their own shoe, or who pack their underwear with sterno camping fuel and no detonator and somehow expect their crotch to explode.”
    Bonus! Clue #8: One of the First Eyewitnesses to the Orlando Attack is An Actor

    As this article details, one of the first Orlando shooting eyewitnesses interviewed by the MSM is an actor.



    His name is Luis Burbano and you can see his IMDb profile here. This is not the first time that an actor is involved in a false flag event.

    During the Sandy Hook operation, David and Francine Wheeler (both actors) have allegedly lost a son during the "shooting." Unfortunately for them, David Wheeler was also spotted playing the role of an FBI agent in the same event.

    Ever since the false flag, they have traveled the country as paid anti-gun lobbyists. You can read more here.

    Steven Spielberg was photographed during the Boston Marathon false flag, trying to blend in the crowd and allegedly carrying to safety a "wounded" person.

    Barbara Starr (OK, not exactly an actor, I admit), the Pentagon correspondent for CNN, played three roles in two false flags (Sandy Hook and Boston Marathon). You can read more here.

    The inconsistencies with these false flag events are so many, that I invite you to browse the 'False Flags' category on my website and revisit some of the older articles.

    Conclusion: Question Everything about the Orlando Mass Shooting

    As always, you have to question everything about these attacks. If you want the truth, you’ll get more of it by flipping or inverting everything the MSM (Mainstream Media) says, and using that as your starting point for investigations, rather than the other way around.

    Stay tuned for more evidence as the situation unfolds.

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    Seems some "radicalized" terrorists have believed that "I.S.I.S." exists and acted to the "calling" despite social media clamoring that it doesn't..

    Quote http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...in-u-s-europe/

    Ramadan Violence: Islamic State Urges Lone Wolf Attacks in U.S., Europe

    The Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL), in a new propaganda message, is urging supporters to carry out violent attacks against civilian and military targets within the United States and Europe during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which begins in early June.

    “Ramadan, the month of conquest and jihad. Get prepared, be ready … to make it a month of calamity everywhere for the non-believers … especially for the fighters and supporters of the Caliphate in Europe and America,” said the audio message, urging ISIS sympathizers in the West to attack if they cannot travel to the group’s self-declared Caliphate in Syria and Iraq.
    I wonder about when people are not able to "read their lips" nor understand what radicalization can do to someone.

    Quote The smallest action you do in their heartland is better and more enduring to us than what you would if you were with us. If one of you hoped to reach the Islamic State, we wish we were in your place to punish the Crusaders day and night,” the message reportedly added.

    ISIS encouraged its supporters to launch lone wolf attacks “to win the great award of martyrdom.”
    Quote 22 May 20165

    CAIRO (AP) — An Islamic State group spokesman has urged sympathizers in Europe and the U.S.
    to launch attacks on civilians there if they are unable to travel to the group’s self-declared Caliphate in Syria and Iraq.
    "In a 31-minute audio message released late Saturday by the IS media arm al-Furqan, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani says the U.S.-led war against the group is doomed to failure and that America “fell in the swamp of perdition.”

    "He tells IS sympathizers in Europe and the U.S. to “harass the Crusaders day and night and to terrify them until each neighbor becomes afraid of the other.”

    "Adnani says sympathizers should not underestimate the value of “throwing a rock at a Crusader in the heart of his home.”

    So what happens when they go to Saudi Arabia and attend the Umrah .

    What is the UMRAH ?

    Quote In Arabic, Umrah means "to visit a populated place". In the Sharia, Umrah means to perform Tawaf round the Kaaba and Sa'i between Al-Safa and Al-Marwah, after assuming Ihram (a sacred state), either from a Miqat like Zu 'l-Hulafa, Juhfa, Qarnu 'l-Manāzil, Yalamlam, Zāt-i-'Irq, Ibrahīm Mursīa, or a place in Hill.

    It is sometimes called the 'minor pilgrimage' or 'lesser pilgrimage', the Hajj being the 'major' pilgrimage and which is compulsory for every able-bodied Muslim who can afford it.

    The Umrah is not compulsory but highly recommended.
    It is so odd that a person using the name of al-Mateen entering Saudi Arabia using a name which Omar chose for himself was able to escape notice. (Earlier posts describe what al-mateen means in the Quran القرآن الكريم. I suggest reading those for further understanding.. His father's name was NOT MATEEN, Omar chose the MATEEN name... although various MSM is reporting such incorrectly that his father's name is Mateen. I note that especially as either shoddy reporting or a deliberate mis-direction.)

    Background on the Umrah

    Quote Throughout Muhammad's era the Muslims wanted to establish the right to perform Umrah and Hajj.

    During that time Mecca was occupied by Arab Pagans who used to worship idols inside Mecca.

    The first military campaign related to the Umrah was the Nakhla Raid ordered by Muhammad, Abdullah ibn Jahsh's was the commander of this expedition.

    During this raid one of Abdullah ibn Jahsh's men , Ukkash ibn Mihsan, was shaven in head to hide the real purpose of their journey and to give the Quraysh the impression of lesser Hajj (Umra); for it was the month (Rajab) when hostilities were forbidden.

    When the Quraysh saw the shaven head of Ukkash, they thought that the group was on its way for pilgrimage and they felt relieved and began to set up camp.

    They said, "These people seek the 'Umrah, so there is no need to fear them."

    The sacred months of the Arab Pagans were the 1st, 7th, 11th and 12th months of the Islamic calendar according to the Muslim scholar Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri.

    Muhammad signed the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, which took place in March 628.

    During this event Muslims March to Mecca to perform the lesser pilgrimage (Umrah).

    Muhammad also ordered the Expedition of Abu Qatadah ibn Rab'i al-Ansari (Batn Edam) in December 629 to divert the attention from his intention of attacking Mecca.

    He despatched 8 men to attack a caravan passing through Edam.

    During this expedition one Muslim was killed by another Muslim.

    After this, verse 4:94 of the Quran was revealed.

    Ibn Kathir interprets this as, God asking Muslims to be more careful when fighting "in the way of Allah", as to reduce the chance of killing Muslims accidentally, as happened in this incident.

    Finally Muhammad ordered and took part in the almost entirely peaceful Conquest of Mecca in December 629.

    After the conquest the people of Makkah who had persecuted and driven away the early Muslims, and had fought against the Muslims due to their beliefs were afraid of retribution.

    However, Muhammad forgave even the most ardent of enemies of Islam to establish safe sanctuary in their homes. This was a significant moment where Muhammad showed mercy as opposed to revenge to the people of Makkah.

    Thus, the right to perform Umrah and Hajj were guaranteed.
    "Although not a part of the ritual, most pilgrims drink water from the Well of Zamzam. Various sects of Islam perform these rituals with slightly different methods."

    Did he drink the "water". I wonder.

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    i swear i've seen a photo of hillary clinton with omars "wife" now i just gotta find
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    or a woman that looks strikingly similar , been sifting through so many images last night into the early am this will be " fun "

    as well as the info that the white house "quietly " announces hilarry is under investigation by the FBI
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    Quote Posted by bluestflame (here)
    i swear i've seen a photo of hillary clinton with omars "wife" now i just gotta find
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    or a woman that looks strikingly similar , been sifting through so many images last night into the early am this will be " fun "

    as well as the info that the white house "quietly " announces hilarry is under investigation by the FBI
    I suppose it's not appropriate in this thread to point out this Google search, or is it relevant? As to who is supporting gun control, and allowing in "radicalized supporters"

    Here is the search:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=hill...ion+from+saudi Keywords are: "hillary receives donation from saudi" and what pops up says

    Quote Apr 20, 2015 - Says Hillary Clinton took "money from kings of Saudi Arabia and Morocco ... "Like other global charities, the Clinton Foundation receives support from ..
    Quote Yes the Clinton Foundation has received donations from Saudi Arabia. The Wall Street Journal reported on it Feb. of 2015.

    Foreign Government Gifts to Clinton Foundation on the Rise

    Additionally, the Clinton Foundation received Foreign Country donations while she was Secretary of State, but it seems not from Saudi Arabia. The Washington Post reported on it:

    Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State
    This one from zero-hedge: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...-prince-claims

    Quote Saudi Arabia Has Funded 20% Of Hillary's Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims
    " Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate's campaign."

    And again about who is clamoring for gun control to strip the citizens and rely on protection from "the cop on every corner"

    just wondering out loud..

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    " Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate's campaign."
    I believe this guy is in Washington DC right now meeting with Obama and others??????
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