The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
In other words, let's [say] I'm a skeptic of Q.

Posted by Paul (here)
My current speculative scenario, which I believe answers your questions:

1. Trump intelligence agent in black takes pictures of Avenatti's office building.
2. As agent in black walks away, an Avenatti goon takes mirror reversed picture of agent in black.
3. Avenatti goon sends full picture to Avenatti.
4. NSA captures full picture, "over the air", as it is being sent from goon to Avenatti.
5. NSA sends full picture to Q.
6. Q posts full picture.
7. Avenatti tweats a trimmed down version of picture.

Skeptics of Q don't believe the NSA is actually sending him anything.

Again, I'm pointing out that what just happened should be a major redpill for those who are not me or you or the others here already informed on this.

MSNBC did a hit piece on Q on their main news program this evening. Getting worried!



I also just noticed that Collins in the NBC segment says that one of Q's objectives is to make the "lives" of political opponents "impossible." Now think about that. How does spreading "conspiracy theories" online prevent other people from living their lives? Is something specifically being interrupted in these peoples' lives or is this just hyperbole or unfortunate phrasing?

Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
There are nine pages of Q t-shirts on Amazon, which tells me they are selling like hotcakes.

Have you had your "Q" today?

And the MSNBC hit piece noted that a Q app was on the top 10 Apple downloads page before it was taken down. This is beside apps like SnapChat and all the other garbage people are downloading en masse.

And holy crap, Sarah Sanders' eyebrows raised as if even she was surprised by the Q question she got, and dodged!

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Interesting take on Manafort.

Reason RR dismissed his case back in 2011, (PM was on trial for same thing as now). RR let him off back then, if PM would launder money for them (DOJ).
RR is putting the squeeze on PM again, this time to lie and somehow implicate Trump.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=satZ3lDorws

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
In other words, let's [say] I'm a skeptic of Q.

Posted by Paul (here)
My current speculative scenario, which I believe answers your questions:

1. Trump intelligence agent in black takes pictures of Avenatti's office building.
2. As agent in black walks away, an Avenatti goon takes mirror reversed picture of agent in black.
3. Avenatti goon sends full picture to Avenatti.
4. NSA captures full picture, "over the air", as it is being sent from goon to Avenatti.
5. NSA sends full picture to Q.
6. Q posts full picture.
7. Avenatti tweats a trimmed down version of picture.

Skeptics of Q don't believe the NSA is actually sending him anything.

Again, I'm pointing out that what just happened should be a major redpill for those who are not me or you or the others here already informed on this.

You said several things, as did I.

I was not listing my above scenario for the image to prove, or disprove, the validity of Q.

I was listing it in response to other comments of yours, such as:

What I'm saying is, where did Avenatti get the picture he tweeted ... how Q had the fuller image? And unless the time stamps are off because of time zones, Q posted the fuller image before Avenatti posted it to Twitter.

My fault for quoting the wrong phrase of your earlier post, as it presented misleading motivation for my response.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
I also just noticed that Collins in the NBC segment says that one of Q's objectives is to make the "lives" of political opponents "impossible." Now think about that. How does spreading "conspiracy theories" online prevent other people from living their lives? Is something specifically being interrupted in these peoples' lives or is this just hyperbole or unfortunate phrasing?

Since when should I take the word of someone one NBC as Q's objectives ?

Is this "Collins" person someone whose views I should respect more?

[mountain_jim]

As I read in comments on that Sarah video, once the MSM has their spin sufficiently implanted - watch for the fake Q-supporter(s) false-flag violent act to get MSM major coverage, similar to the Comet Ping Pong shooter.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
As I read in comments on that Sarah video, once the MSM has their spin sufficiently implanted - watch for the fake Q-supporter(s) false-flag violent act to get MSM major coverage, similar to the Comet Ping Pong shooter.

That sounds about like how "they" roll, yes.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Paul (here)
You said several things, as did I.

I was not listing my above scenario for the image to prove, or disprove, the validity of Q.

I was listing it in response to other comments of yours, such as:

What I'm saying is, where did Avenatti get the picture he tweeted ... how Q had the fuller image? And unless the time stamps are off because of time zones, Q posted the fuller image before Avenatti posted it to Twitter.

My fault for quoting the wrong phrase of your earlier post, as it presented misleading motivation for my response.

I think the entire meaning of what I was trying to say became lost in translation for about two or three posts in a row there, but it's all good.

Anyway, the point is, if those who are skeptical are still paying close attention to the drops (which admittedly most skeptics probably are not), they are probably beginning to see things which they cannot explain, and are only going to become increasingly confused trying to otherwise rationalize what is happening.

If you thought Trump Derangement Syndrome was bad, just wait.

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
I also just noticed that Collins in the NBC segment says that one of Q's objectives is to make the "lives" of political opponents "impossible." Now think about that. How does spreading "conspiracy theories" online prevent other people from living their lives? Is something specifically being interrupted in these peoples' lives or is this just hyperbole or unfortunate phrasing?

Since when should I take the word of someone one NBC as Q's objectives ?

Is this "Collins" person someone whose views I should respect more?

I didn't ask you too. What you keep missing from my latest posts here, Paul, is that I'm putting myself in others' shoes, and you keep interpreting my posts as if I'm speaking for my own views. I'm looking at others here and analyzing how they are reacting.

[norman]

So, Q says, "you are now mainstream, handle with care".

hmmmm . . . .

Yes, Trump exceptionalism is going to be their main weapon. Some of the material Annons have produced, even the "The Plan to Save the WOrld" video, can be used by them to claim a nefarious plot/conspiracy is afoot. If we keep in mind that 90% of the world's population don't understand this stuff yet, that tactic could be very powerful for them.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by norman (here)
So, Q says, "you are now mainstream, handle with care".

hmmmm . . . .

Yes, Trump exceptionalism is going to be their main weapon. Some of the material Annons have produced, even the "The Plan to Save the WOrld" video, can be used by them to claim a nefarious plot/conspiracy is afoot. If we keep in mind that 90% of the world's population don't understand this stuff yet, that tactic could be very powerful for them.

Hopefully, common sense and logic, followed by proof will prevail (and even then, some will never believe it; the fakestream media will never admit it, even with their last dying gasp! But "Q" warned us this would happen ages ago. )

"You can take the horse to water..."

[KiwiElf]

Anyone who's studied marketing or related subjects, will be familiar with the product life cycle (including fashions, trends & services), and the innovation adoption cycle graphs.

I used to teach my students that they go hand-in-hand; overlay them. This is very much applicable here. (Actually, they can be applied to everything!)

In "Q's" case, we could say the "Laggards", who typically make up 16 % of a particular group, (or the complete skeptics); they'll never believe it.



http://www.quickmba.com/marketing/product/lifecycle/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno...ion_life_cycle

[Noelle]

For me, one of the big bonuses of all the Q coverage, especially over the last 24 hours, is watching, in almost real-time, the MSM distorting this movement and branding it as a "conspiracy theory." We could say most of us working on this thread are in the movement's trenches; we know the details -- the history, what it's about, who's involved, etc. When the MSM distorts by twisting facts and leaving out key information, well, we can really see their deceptive tactics.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
I'm looking at others here and analyzing how they are reacting.

My failure to realize that was what you were doing explains a lot.

Now, ideally, one of (1) I should read more clearly, or (2) you should write more clearly, or (3) life will continue, as it has always been, less than ideal.

Good luck .

[TargeT]

Posted by Paul (here)

Now, ideally, one of (1) I should read more clearly, or (2) you should write more clearly, or (3) life will continue, as it has always been, less than ideal.

The fractal continues..... but how is it changed?

Even fractals have great shifts (though they swing back... much like a pendulum; which way are we arcing now?)

I have hope.

[KiwiElf]

Latest "Q" posts, #1790 - 1796, click to enlarge or go directly to the link below

https://qanon.pub/

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EDIT - a couple of late additions # 1795 - 1796

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[Helene West]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I listen to PrayingMedic's video in post #5949 - thanks Mojo and KiwiElf - and hope and want to believe it's true as to what is happening in the Mueller Investigation


Here's another take (which I hope isn't true, but makes sense as well.)

Larry Nichols reminds us that Manafort was brought up on these same charges in the past - and at that time RR dismissed them.

Also brings out that what Mueller's investigation is doing, is keeping people from taking a position in Trumps Admin because they don't want to have to run the risk of being put on jail on false charges.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hZDfLjfqZlI

Thank you, Ba-ba. The above contains an insight I hadn't realized. -- "...keeping people from taking a position in Trumps Admin because they don't want to have to run the risk of being put on jail on false charges."

Wow. No wonder they seem content to go on and on!! It's not about collusion which probably everyone in congress knows is a made-up/frame-up, it's about scaring talent away from working with the trump administration!
You must admit, they may be sick but they are shrewd as well...

[mojo]

more about nxivm...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wsoUjimrglE

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

Now, ideally, one of (1) I should read more clearly, or (2) you should write more clearly, or (3) life will continue, as it has always been, less than ideal.

The fractal continues..... but how is it changed?

Even fractals have great shifts (though they swing back... much like a pendulum; which way are we arcing now?)

I have hope.

Well in the three or four posts I took to convey this, I had the feeling the entire time that Paul was quickly reading through my posts and just interpreting them as what I was arguing. There are lots of posts here after all.

Half the time, I only very briefly read through many of these posts as well. The other half of the time is when I have some coffee and nothing else to do, and can actually sit and go through them in greater depth. I try to be concise when I post here too but this often translates, apparently, into unpalatably dense sentences.

The nature of everyone posting massive amounts of information daily to this thread, and the extent to which we are all able to fully absorb it, is as much at fault as anything else.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Anyone who's studied marketing or related subjects, will be familiar with the product life cycle (including fashions, trends & services), and the innovation adoption cycle graphs.

I used to teach my students that they go hand-in-hand; overlay them. This is very much applicable here. (Actually, they can be applied to everything!)

In "Q's" case, we could say the "Laggards", who typically make up 16 % of a particular group, (or the complete skeptics); they'll never believe it.

Attachment 38618 Attachment 38619

http://www.quickmba.com/marketing/product/lifecycle/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno...ion_life_cycle

This is pretty much what I am looking at by considering the responses of various skeptics, a whole spectrum of people from the pro-Trump skeptics of Q to the people who know they are guilty and are trying to suppress Q for their own sake.

There is already a very wide variety of people on board with Q but I notice that most of them seem to have been conspiracy researchers since 9/11 or later already.

So I added a new scale to your images to visualize this idea:



The most interesting reactions to me are from people who exhibit evidence of a guilty conscience. They seem to know that Q is legitimate because they use odd ways of describing the "danger" posed by Q, such as the Collins guy saying that Q drops were preventing people from living their lives, whatever that means.

Because the nature of the information provided by Q is largely historical and not particularly subject to trends/fads, this effect is like the Zen mirror: once the mirror is broken, you can never go back to seeing through it as you once did. Products and services may come and go but once someone understands this material, I don't see how they can go back to believing that their old world view is still accurate.

[mojo]

A new Q posts mentions a patriot possibly foiled an assassination attempt...

Patriot who stopped a possible assassination attempt will be at the Trump Rally IN A Q SHIRT

Retweet! There's a chance POTUS might point her out!!

Q in the SPOTLIGHT saving Pres

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Trump calls into Rush Limbaugh's radio show – was good stuff and well worth a listen.

And I'm pretty sure there's another Q proof in there. At 6:40 Trump mentions "a man...and I will not mention his name..." who effectively reneged on his once campaign pledge to repeal Obamacare. He also mentions the number 17 (Q) again.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t2Oc27xNRoI

I'm pretty sure, and someone can confirm, that man was John McCain.. As far as I am aware, only Q has ever called McCain "no name", or "him who shall not be named."

Rush doesn't ask about Q – it might have been the ideal platform to do this. But whereas I've said before Trump should now force this issue, I'm not so sure now. What I'm expecting next is an all-out media campaign to crush Q as a relevant news item. It's already underway. And they will use every dirty tactic to portray it as a crazy conspiracy, and its followers as mentally ill. There may even be plans for a Q-inspired false flag for the purpose of demonizing it as a movement. If Trump proclaimed Q was real today, there's a chance he could be dead in the water tomorrow.

If that's true, he's right to distance himself – at least until the whole plan is ready, and all the pieces in place. Silence is golden (and maybe that's the point..)

That's what I'm thinking at this point.