QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?

[ichingcarpenter]

I posted this on Bill's thread on LMH/ Bassett interview then thought about it

This might be of interest too on S.Bassett's thoughts


EXCLUSIVE: Why President Donald Trump 'could be about to announce that ALIENS EXIST'

From the English paper the Express: PUBLISHED: 13:34, Thu, May 4, 2017 | UPDATED: 14:05, Thu, May 4, 2017

Snip:

The second event which gives Mr Bassett hope is said to have happened the day after Donald Trump's win.

He said: "I received an encrypted text from someone inside.

"It was not signed, but I kind of know who it is.

"It said, 'there are people inside the Department of Defence who are willing too cooperate if someone reaches down to them, if the secretary of defence reaches down to them’.”


https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...Research-Group

''encrypted message'' now isn't this before Q first started something? ..... Is this related to the stars group?
I know its old news but wonder if there is a relationship.

[Jayke]

Posted by Jayke (here)
Dark Journalist explains where they originate in his latest presentation. They were made for people who work at the CERN Hadron Collider apparently. I’ve not finished watching the whole thing yet, so not sure if he thinks there’s any white hats vs black hats behind the creation of the cards. I’ll watch the rest and find out what his overall hypothesis is.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JAJH3xZvBRI

I was disappointed 'Dark Journalist' didn't go much deeper into the CERN tarot in his last 2 hours of the presentation. He had a guest on instead. A woman who is an intuitive/psychic type. The scope of this part of the interview was more about bolstering your psychic defences and tuning into your spiritual guidance.

I have gleaned enough from the tarot itself though to fill in some missing pieces of the Q psy-op puzzle, and do a systems theory analysis of the Q movement. I've done a write up of my analysis below, it'll be a long post by my usual standards, so, i'll try and keep it as concise as possible, while still hitting the most important aspects, which means it will be vastly over-generalised as a result, but there's still a lot of research and hard science that goes into it.

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Systems Theory

Systems Theory is based on 3 core fundamentals...Pattern, Process and Structure...and to understand or predict how a situation is going to unfold, its necessary to understand all 3 components. These 3 fundamentals are like the 3 prongs on Shivas Trishula.

Pattern

I'll start way back in ancient history, because, going off the CERN Tarot, it seems to be where our occult overlords have their roots.

The Median Magi of antiquity understood the planetary cycles of conscious evolution in terms of Hyper-Luminal-Geometry. The 3 dimensions of time(the hyper part of hyper-geometry), light (bright vs dark, and all the luminal shades of colour inbetween) and space/location (what most people consider the 3 dimensions of space are actually just 3 geometric vector points within a single dimension of space).

To have an inkling of what’s going to happen next, it requires an understanding of where we currently reside within the pattern of conscious evolution; which is why the mystery traditions focus on astrology, astronomy and 'The Music of the Spheres' within their core teachings. Do the archetypal energies – deriving from celestial influences – create aeons that are light, joyful and breezy? Or do the archons sing a song that's more chaotic, dark, heavy and disparaging? (the median magi considered this a function of how much light was in a particular zone of the universe, hence, they associated archetypes with the luminal dimension. (Ismaili Gnosis - Henry Corbin.PDF).

Structure i.e. Where we currently reside within the pattern?

Clare Graves - Levels of Human Experience, is the best system of psychology to understand what the structure looks like. It teaches the organisational psychology of humans in relation to the 7 fundamental archetypes we tend to gravitate too, and form our communities around. To understand the structure in relation to the pattern, we require an accurate understanding of history (which is why the overlords seek to rewrite our history books, it disconnects us from our roots and prevents us from seeing the dynamics they use to manipulate us).

A structural-pattern of human civilisation

The slavs kept some interesting calendar systems, that date back into what we'd consider pre-history:

• http://survincity.com/2011/01/slavic-calendar/

Also … Peter, do not just replace the old with a new calendar … he stole from the people of the great heritage of 5,508 years, and ordered the foreigners to write the history of his place, which was not there before …
Now very few people remember that the earlier date of initial letter Annals recorded the ancient language, not the number that introduced by order of Peter …
Prior to the introduction of the new calendar 7208 new year people said of the victory over the ancient Chinese, and the date is always recorded initial letter … it tells us that writing existed long before the Slavs in Solun monks Cyril and Methodius … if it were not for the reform of Peter, the Church would be a fairy tale about "education of illiterate nations" would be long forgotten, like someone's bad joke. No wonder that the Empress Catherine II said: "The Slavs for many thousands of years before Christ, had their letters."

Here is a short list of used Slavs Old Believer, calendar forms:

Relevant chronology 2006-2007.
Summer 7515 from the Creation in the Star Temple
13015 Summer of The Big Freeze (Great cooling)
44551 Summer of the Great Creation Colo Russenia
Summer 106 785 from the base of the Asgard Erie
Summer 111 813 from the Great Migrations of Daarija
Summer period from 142,997 Three Moons
Summer 153,373 from Assa Dei
Summer Time 165,037 from Tara
Summer Time 185,773 from Thule
Summer Time by 211,693 SMAD
Summer Time by 273,901 h'Arra
Summer Time Gifts from 460,525
Summer Time 604,381 from three suns…

The part we'd be interested in for this analysis is the fall of Aratta, and the rise of Sumer and the surrounding Mesopotamian states. A time Karim El Koussa describes as, 'The Land of the Winged Gods', because its from here that we can really track the dynamics and emergence of the various structural patterns of esoteric, mystery school, governance over the state of human affairs.

The "Summer 7515 from the Creation in the Star Temple", in relation to the slavic calendars, would relate to the mystery tradition history shared by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas in Uriels Machine. The original Noahites, the survivors of the biblical deluge, would be the ones who established the Enochian star temples of the Melchizedek tradition, the original dragon court, whose motto was "fierce as wolves, wise as serpents, silent as doves".

Over time, as the luminal dimension darkened (descending within the yuga cycles) there was a split within the melchizedek tradition. The aaronite priesthood branched off from the pharaonite tradition (that's my interpretation of the data available at least). The Melchizedek tradition balkanised, forming the tradition of the winged lion (the babylonian brotherhood, which gravitates to left hemisphere dominant thinking i.e. Aristotelean philosophy) and that of the caduceus inspired, winged-serpent (The Pythagorean, Hermetic, Platonic traditions). These two gnostic traditions have been battling for supremacy ever since, in a series of coups and counter-coups, that run throughout history and form the backbone of western civilisation.

Key turning points of the battling factions

The 'winged lion' faction continued its decent into darkness, sporeing more factions within factions (according to Karim El Koussa in Jesus the Phoenician...the associated character level of each group is my designation.

Level 9 - The Melchizedek tradition
Level 8 - The Araonite priesthood
Level 7 - Essenes
Level 6 - Sadducees
Level 5 - Pharisees
Level 4 - The Zealots

Recognising the descent into darkness, the Melchizedek priests of the 'winged-serpent' Pythagorean tradition, attempted a coup, through the emergence of Christianity, to try restore order and nobility to the world. And for 700 years, the coup was successful throughout much of the Greco-Roman Byzantine world, which experienced a flourishing golden age as they returned to the traditional values of law and order, established by the wisdom teachings of Christ (source). I wouldn’t count gnostic Christianity as an Abrahamic religion, because gnostic Christianity came about in direct opposition to the caustic Talmudic teachings that were eroding the fabric of society. The Talmudists simply usurped the movement of Christianity later on to promote their control system.

In 700 AD, the Babylonian brotherhood struck back with their creation of the 3rd Abrahamic religion, Islam (a belief system that glorifies the level 3 archetype within the Clare Graves hierarchy). Their machinations amounted to a coup against Orthodox Christianity, causing the Byzantine world to be plunged into the dark ages, and enabling the rise of the 2nd Abrahamic religion, Catholic Christianity.

After 700 years of Dark Ages – in the depths of the kali yuga – the luminal dimension began to brighten. The heroic mindset begins to rekindle in the consciousness of those enslaved to the Babylonian Brotherhoods oligarchal control system.

• 1430 – Joan of Arc leads a revolt and attempts to throw off the oligarchs structure. The movement gets crushed, but the embers of freedom begin burning brighter.

• 1522 – Martin Luther, sees through the deceptions of the catholic church and writes the Luther bible, making the true wisdom of Christ available to the general public. This stirs the revolutionary passions of the reformation. The Babylonian Brotherhood seeks to crush the movement, but this time, the embers spark into flames and the movement slowly catches fire throughout Europe.

• 1620 – it's the Rosicrucians turn to lead the revolt. During the 30 years war, the Rosicrucians set sail for America, in an attempt to escape the clutches of the Babylonian brotherhood and establish a New Atlantis, based on the Platonic ideals of a self-sovereign, republic, nation (a return to the level 7 Clare Graves archetype). It doesn't take long for The Babylonian Brotherhood to catch onto the scheme, sink their claws in, and implement the protocols of Zion to subvert the flourishing new culture.

• 1708 – (this is where history repeats and we see echoes of the Q movement as it emerges today) Jonathan Swift and Liebniz (representing the platonic-hermetic tradition) began publishing cryptic warnings, under the pseudonym ‘Isaac Bickerstaff’, to the Venetian deep state, which was embedded within Londons political system. (How the Nation was Won - Graham Lowry page 98 onwards 'Deciphering Isaac Bickerstaff'). The Bickerstaff psy-op sufficiently rattled the Venetian oligarchs, and they momentarily loosed their grip on the American colonies, just long enough for a movement to rally - as the rest of that book describes - the ultimate outcome of the operation was the founding of the United States of America and the institutionalising of the American Constitution; the first major win for the hermetic, Pythagorean ‘winged-serpent’ tradition, a sign the Kali Yuga may be nearing its end.

• 1803-1815 – The Napoleonic wars. Not to be outdone, the Babylonian Brotherhood continued to do what they do best, start wars and fund communist-revolutions. The Platonic, Hermetic, Pythagorean traditions continued to make ground in the public consciousness. Rapid progress in Theosophy, Science, Technology etc begins to stir through the Western world. The fires of the Phoenix begin to glow.

• 1918 – With the likes of Nikola Tesla, society was evolving far too fast for the ‘Winged Lion’ Oligarchs of Venice. The 2 world wars were an attempt to blow humanity back into the stone age. Note: The control system of oligarchy operates at the 4-5-6 complex of Gravesian Archetypes. Once society makes a leap into the self-sovereign mindset of the level 7 value system; we're looking at a dramatic paradigm shift in the role of government, and how people relate to those government institutions i.e. meritocracy and aristocracy (in the original, noble, sense of that word). Is this where Steiner makes a prediction that in a hundred years humanity will have another chance to change the paradigm? He obviously knew about this 100 year tide cycle of rising character development.

• 2018 – what lends credence to the idea that Q is a genuine 'whitehat' psy-op (for me at least) is that the above book 'How the Nation was Won', was published by the Executive Intelligence Review, which was founded by Lyndon LaRouche. Lyndon LaRouche is the brains behind the 'One Belt, One Road' initiative that's sweeping the Eastern hemisphere. LaRouche's book Economics of the Noosphere, is deeply grounded in Platonic, Pythagorean philosophy. Roger Stone often speaks at the LaRouchePac/Schiller Institute conferences, and as everyone should know, Roger Stone is one of the Trump advisors who encouraged Trump to run for office of president to begin with. Interesting connection given the wisdom tradition that LaRouche represents. Certainly Stone would know of ‘The Bickerstaff Operation’ as he’s been familiar with LaRouches work for 40 years (as he mentioned in one of the conferences)

How does this help us analyse the Q movement?

Like all movements that take shape, how people organise around the structure of that movement is determined by their dominant character type.

• Level 4's organise around a pyramid structure hierarchy, they always worship whoever sits above them in the pyramid of power. The Bilderberg group with their Brands and Celebrity icons, help to maintain this layer of the control grid. Brands and Celebrity figures are the religions of materialism that people fall in line to adore. You’re always going to get some of this type that latch onto any new authority figure that arrives on the scene. It’s human nature and it’s unavoidable. I’m not concerned with Q becoming a new Religion, in the long run at least.

• Level 5's are the mercantilistic minded people - these are the ones who infiltrate and subvert any movement - purely for their own profit i.e. the ones selling t-shirts, merchandise, etc; anything to make a dime on the back of the Q-true believers (level 4) and the Q-cultists (level 6).

• Level 6 – the organisational structure at this level is communism (group think), these tend to become the useful idiots that the fabian society preys on to create their revolutionary minded provocateurs. This archetype is prone to cultish habits and behaviours. The Antifa crowd are the perfect, mkultrad, demographic, that demonstrates the worst aspects of this archetypal mindset. Corey’s Kids would be another. If we start getting Q’s kids as a dominant faction within the Q community, who blindly follow Q anywhere, no matter how ludicrous or implausible, then we know it’s a psy-op with the ultimate goal being the subversion of the social fabric. There’s more to the whole Q phenomenon at the moment though for this to be its overriding agenda imo. They could still change course down the line of course and try to net as many people in as possible, it’s definitely an area to be keenly aware of and concerned about. Where my interest in Q though, resides in the next layer.

• Level 7 – the Q-aficionados, the Anons, the deep researchers...the group who the cryptic Q messages are primed and targeted for. The organisational structure of this archetype is a wheel with a revolving leader at the centre (the centre of the wheel is chosen purely on merit, the moment the leader becomes ineffective, the group shifts alliances to anyone else who has better ideas) this layer of organisation will follow the Q-drops while they're providing value, but as soon as the Q-drops become too mundane, new sources for valuable content are sought, and Q gets dropped off the radar.

It's this last layer of the Q movement I place my support behind. And those who are warning that Q is a cult, hero or saviour figure, are equally right in warning the other organisational structures not to get too involved. Although, I hope they do get involved, albeit with a high dose of healthy skepticism, because there's still lots of value to be unearthed by the Q-aficionados, in derailing the 'winged lion', oligarchical, deep-state control structure; while ushering in a new paradigm based on LaRouche's economic laws, which represent more of a 7-8-9 character complex, and have the potential to birth a new golden age for humanity. Something that's supported by 'Music of the Sphere' astrologers.

Predicting the Future

Humanity is definitely at a crossroads. I liken the shift from the 4-5-6 character complex of 'the winged lion' oligarch class, to the 7-8-9 complex of 'the winged serpent' class, as being like the metamorphoses of a caterpillar into a butterfly. Humanity is at the threshold of taking flight, which is why the oligarch class is working so hard right now to bring out new technologies and control grids that stifle our natural evolutionary processes.

The 'Process' aspect of Systems Theory

Processes determine how shifts in the overall structure of a system are brought about. Processes are driven by strategies and tactics. Strategies are the unseen overall goals and agendas. Tactics are the visible units of movement that can be observed as events shift within the structure. It's through analysing tactics that we can deduce strategies, mindsets and agendas.

Dark Journalist made a comment that I found particularly interesting, in that both factions of the deep state 'The Winged Lion' and 'Winged Serpent' groups seem to have representatives working at CERN. This, to me, indicates that there may be a process towards reunification among both winged god factions of the deeper Melchizedek tradition. Based on the fact that we appear to be on the upward swing, away from the Kali Yuga, I'm not ashamed to say that I have great hope that things are going to work out for the best, and the worst elements within the 'winged lion' tradition; the Zionists and neocons can be brought to heel; without blowing up the planet or subjugating us to a lifetime of slavery in their nefarious plans for world communism.

Basically, if the negative factions have control over an advanced AI control grid as sophisticated as they depict in the CERN tarot, then we're all well and truly f*cked!
If a reunification between the winged gods groups at CERN has taken place, then the resulting group of Rosicrucian adepts, will neither be service-to-self, nor service-to-others, but service-to-source; and the AI will be used in a more benevolent way, that helps society flourish, develop, evolve and become an intergalactic federation that takes residence across the galaxy and throughout the stars.

I'll be keeping a keen eye on the tactics used by all sides as I straddle the fence in the middle, to see how this whole psy-op is ultimately going to play out. It took over 60 years from the ‘Bickerstaff operation’ in the 1700's before America ultimately won its freedom. The rattling of the deep state that the Q-movement is causing now, could take just as long to come to fruition, so, I don't really expect much to dramatically change in society within my lifetime at least. Ascension through the archetypal layers of consciousness is a slow, long, drawn-out process that occurs over millenia. But again, I'm hopeful for the best. And I’m always grateful for welcome, unexpected, surprises

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Final note: while researching Q in relation to a ‘winged serpent’ tradition. I found an unexpected direct hit, a movie made in 1982 with the remarkable title of Q: The winged serpent. A potential case of predictive programming? A movie made by the Babylonian Priesthood to gaslight the Pythagorean tradition by painting them with a projection of their own atrocities? Or is Q really going to tear us all apart? The Labyrinthine riddle of Q just keeps on getting creepier.

• IMDB Description

NYPD detectives Shepard and Powell are working on a bizarre case of a ritualistic Aztec murder. Meanwhile, something big is attacking people of New York and only greedy small time crook Jimmy Quinn knows where its lair is.

[waves]

I think Mr. Riordan has hit on something very significant, especially reminding us to look way ahead at what the agenda of any current psyop may be and not get so caught up in the details of the midst.

I get it.

You wouldn't think the most evil, murderous, deceitful organization(s) would create a psyop to expose themselves into full view and all their historical evil deeds, would you?

I now think that's exactly what's happening.

Please keep in mind the word patience. Time does not matter to the people with all the knowledge and technological toys.

They've been 100? years ahead of us or more in both technology and planning with the power to do whatever they want.

Fifty years ago they fabricated the hippie, then newage movement introducing the concept of awakening, and are now using Q to s...l...o...w...l...y further unite the already 'informed' and 'wake up' the others to authenticate this movement of waking up to the provable evil they've been feeding the 'proof' for all along.

Eventually they will have a majority of people united against a common enemy.

People will then be informed of the only comprehensive, workable solution.

AI - the problem solver.

The masses will have then been fooled to accept ultimate control.

The free will based, individualized humanity experiment will have been destroyed.

I suspect, again.

[ThePythonicCow]

Wow - quit reading this crappy little post of mine and go back and re-read Jayke's Post #242, above.

[norman]

Yea but , , , I don't quite get how they can insert AI as the slam dunk solution so convincingly to the masses. I definitely don't see it winning a logical choice but I suppose I can see it winning a convenience choice, after all, people do love their smart phones.



Can someone expand on how that would work, for me, please ?

[waves]

Posted by norman (here)
Yea but , , , I don't quite get how they can insert AI as the slam dunk solution so convincingly to the masses. I definitely don't see it winning a logical choice but I suppose I can see it winning a convenience choice, after all, people do love their smart phones.



Can someone expand on how that would work, for me, please ?

I suggest you listen to all Riordan's 10 minute or so summaries at the beginning of each video and contemplate what it suggests about the far reaching future.
More than anything, contemplate how ridiculously unaware we are of the technological capabilities and sophistication of the enemy.
I'm not suggesting AI is going to be a slam dunk solution tomorrow or soon.
We're not going to have any correct analysis/conclusions from a teeny tiny viewpoint just looking at Q minute by minute or towards next year or next election.
I'm suggesting we're being played to be playing along with the moral indignance we're being pushed to unite over while the more crucial fight is being ignored.

[norman]

Well, back in 2015 when Jade Helm was the big news, and the stuff that some people dug up about it, I found myself rolling on into the 2016 election period feeling that the whole thing was a continuity. The oddly different approach by Trump V the horribly wicked witch was like a Jade helm data gathering scheme from the get go.


As the election approached and there was a huge upswell of political enthusiasm for Trump and what he stood for, I let go of the Jade Helm perspective and forgot about it.


Now, with these recent posts, I'm right back at Jade Helm again.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)

The complete
dissolution of
abstract power

The values and goals
of those who produce and
control technology are
always embedded
within it.

In other words, the values and goals of those who produce and control this are technological.

Someone has lost touch with their soul.

Perhaps I leapt too quickly to that conclusion. Perhaps the (warnings/fear porn)? regarding technocracy short circuited my thinking.

What if the values and goals of those who produce and control this technology are better than the values and goals of those who currently sit at the top of the control pyramid? They might not have to reach far for that to be the case .

Perhaps I have already seen a small example of that, in the little world of Linux kernel development, which I know quiet a bit about. The technology of the kernel itself, and of the tools used to develop it, form the largest open source (and perhaps even largest of any kind of source) software project of our times. The result embeds certain values and goals within the technology, that have been (not completely, but) highly resistant to infection by the corporate giants of the computer world such as IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco, Google and Amazon.

Cryptocurrencies and more generally distributed ledger technologies ("DLT", e.g. blockchain) are now engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that technology or any technology so conceived and so dedicated can long endure (my apologies to Mr Lincoln for stealing his words), outside of the total control of the traditional financial/monetary hierarchy that has so long ruled over us.

The underlying tcp (TCP) Internet technology, and the next layer up, the World Wide Web (WWW), are further along in similar struggles. The elite bastards of long standing seem quite intent on completing a world-wide surveillance and control grid, using such technologies as TCP, WWW, DLT, land and satellite based 5G, smart phones, ubiquitous embedded sensors and controllers (smart meters, the Internet of Things, ...) and Lord (Satan?) knows what else.

Technologies that I know less about, but that are perhaps (1) more important and (2) better hidden and controlled include technologies for materials, manufacturing, energy production, food and clean water production, healing, propulsion, and robotics.

This gets to my key point for this post:

It matters deeply what are the values and goals embedded in the technology within which we are becoming increasingly enmeshed.

I'd suggest not fighting technology in rage, for then we lose and the winners likely don't have our best interests at heart. Rather I'd suggest (as is reflected in many of my life choices over the years) working to mold and shape the technology, to better reflect our own values and goals, not those of the elite bastards ensconced for so long at the top of the pyramid of human civilization.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by norman (here)
Yea but , , , I don't quite get how they can insert AI as the slam dunk solution so convincingly to the masses. I definitely don't see it winning a logical choice but I suppose I can see it winning a convenience choice, after all, people do love their smart phones.

Can someone expand on how that would work, for me, please ?

The term "AI" has come to have two meanings for me ... quite different meanings.

1. Various computer software algorithms which have been used to code systems that can do things such as prove mathematics theorems, play games such as chess, and perform pattern recognition on images.

2. The meaning for "AI" that I find increasingly useful when reading or listening to discussions of these matters refers to the integration of the following (see my previous post, above, to decode the acronyms):

The elite bastards of long standing seem quite intent on completing a world-wide surveillance and control grid, using such technologies as TCP, WWW, DLT, land and satellite based 5G, smart phones, ubiquitous embedded sensors and controllers (smart meters, the Internet of Things, ...), robotics, self-driving cars, and Lord (Satan?) knows what else.

The second meaning for "AI" is far larger, and from what I can tell, better fits how the term "AI" is used in popular discussions and propaganda.

[norman]

Yea, but 2. has got lousy PR and I can't see any way in hell it will be welcome. Only force or deception or both combined would make it happen. Surely ?

[waves]

3. Monitoring all thought and predicting future behavior moment by moment on an individual basis, ability to trigger disease, behavior, thoughts or death at the discretion of AI's ever updating analysis.

[Ratszinger]

Some of us may just be paranoid too! :-) I think I may have picked up on aliens dwelling on Q also. (note the D. Rodman pic) LOL!
Seriously though I wasn't going to post the other pic of the image I had in my mind that I did of the three men because I didn't think anything of it until watching the videos linking to Riordan's videos when he was referring in I think 5-1 about an apparition, or fog, or blur and I got that also in the one I was seeing. I saw three men clearly in the early Aug. read I did but the one was not clear to me and I couldn't see his face. It reminded me of a porn flick like you'd see at bachelor parties where they blocked out the genitals and nips. I drew it up yesterday blurred up to try to represent what I imaged in that read best I could recall.

The image of three men looking at a computer screen and they were arguing over how to proceed. This is early from back when first heard of Q and since I've played with Runes I've made myself I began doing some divination and meditating. Then as is the others earlier I felt like I was getting something but this Rodman is the latest and not the first time Dennis Rodman has popped into my head when thinking or dwelling on Q. It's the one I did yesterday when thinking of Q. Not sure why just throwing it out there in case someone else is sitting on something also that they didn't want to tell about but could somehow be related. Rodman is an alien in a lot of ways though if you ask me and he does have a relationship that is unprecedented with Kim J Ung! Just a personal observation. Ha!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by norman (here)
Yea, but 2. has got lousy PR and I can't see any way in hell it will be welcome. Only force or deception or both combined would make it happen. Surely ?

As best as I can tell, 2. (my "big" AI definition, above) is happening, and the lousy PR is deeply entangled with controlled opposition, the better to entrap any honest resistance in futile or self-defeating efforts.

[onawah]

I think there is one component to the debate that is being overlooked or at the very least, underestimated; one that very soon can determine whether or not we can even have the presence of mind to continue having a discussion such as this for much longer, and I suggest you start here with Bob's very astute post to see what it is: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1250035
Also, Dark Journalist isn't done yet with his exploration of the X factor, and I would stay tuned for more revelations in upcoming episodes. His psychic guest on the most recent installment made some important points: that the culminating point in the spiraling cycle humanity has been caught up in for so long, that began even way before Atlantis, has come around again, that the direction (positive or negative) that any technology takes is shaped by the minds that create it, that, at present, when she looks at CERN what she sees is chaos (though that can change). Their discussion goes on to emphasize the importance of individual development and keeping up one's defenses to negative influences, even to 5G.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jayke (here)

• 1708 – (this is where history repeats and we see echoes of the Q movement as it emerges today) Jonathan Swift and Liebniz (representing the platonic-hermetic tradition) began publishing cryptic warnings, under the pseudonym ‘Isaac Bickerstaff’, to the Venetian deep state, which was embedded within Londons political system. (How the Nation was Won - Graham Lowry page 98 onwards 'Deciphering Isaac Bickerstaff'). The Bickerstaff psy-op sufficiently rattled the Venetian oligarchs, and they momentarily loosed their grip on the American colonies, just long enough for a movement to rally - as the rest of that book describes - the ultimate outcome of the operation was the founding of the United States of America and the institutionalising of the American Constitution; the first major win for the hermetic, Pythagorean ‘winged-serpent’ tradition, a sign the Kali Yuga may be nearing its end.

It would seem that the actual, searchable, text of the predictions of ‘Isaac Bickerstaff’ can be read at: Predictions For the Year 1708, By Isaac Bickerstaff, Esq.

There are perhaps a 100 (I did not count) events predicted to happen, typically to some person or people or in some location, on some day or in some month, of 1708. Here is a random sample of such a prediction:

On the 20th [of June 1708] cardinal Portocarero will die of a dysentery, with great suspicion of poison; but the report of his intention to revolt to king Charles will prove false.

I am at a loss as to how to decode these Bickerstaff Predictions, even after skimming some portion of H. Graham Lowry's fine "How the West Was Won", Volume 1, especially the section 'Deciphering Isaac Bickerstaff' beginning on page 98.

I suppose it should not be surprising that I am unable to decode these predictions. It has taken me months of consideration, in cooperation with thousands of more energetic autists than myself, for me to begin to make reliable sense of Q's drops, and this is after well over a half century of paying fairly close attention to the history and politics of the U.S that form the fabric from which Q's material is woven.

[Jayke]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)

• 1708 – (this is where history repeats and we see echoes of the Q movement as it emerges today) Jonathan Swift and Liebniz (representing the platonic-hermetic tradition) began publishing cryptic warnings, under the pseudonym ‘Isaac Bickerstaff’, to the Venetian deep state, which was embedded within Londons political system. (How the Nation was Won - Graham Lowry page 98 onwards 'Deciphering Isaac Bickerstaff'). The Bickerstaff psy-op sufficiently rattled the Venetian oligarchs, and they momentarily loosed their grip on the American colonies, just long enough for a movement to rally - as the rest of that book describes - the ultimate outcome of the operation was the founding of the United States of America and the institutionalising of the American Constitution; the first major win for the hermetic, Pythagorean ‘winged-serpent’ tradition, a sign the Kali Yuga may be nearing its end.

It would seem that the actual, searchable, text of the predictions of ‘Isaac Bickerstaff’ can be read at: Predictions For the Year 1708, By Isaac Bickerstaff, Esq.

There are perhaps a 100 (I did not count) events predicted to happen, typically to some person or people or in some location, on some day or in some month, of 1708. Here is a random sample of such a prediction:

On the 20th [of June 1708] cardinal Portocarero will die of a dysentery, with great suspicion of poison; but the report of his intention to revolt to king Charles will prove false.

I am at a loss as to how to decode these Bickerstaff Predictions, even after skimming some portion of H. Graham Lowry's fine "How the West Was Won", Volume 1, especially the section 'Deciphering Isaac Bickerstaff' beginning on page 98.

I suppose it should not be surprising that I am unable to decode these predictions. It has taken me months of consideration, in cooperation with thousands of more energetic autists than myself, for me to begin to make reliable sense of Q's drops, and this is after well over a half century of paying fairly close attention to the history and politics of the U.S that form the fabric from which Q's material is woven.

A full read of the book might be necassary to understand the context and recognise the motives of the players involved. The predictions of when a person is going to die, are basically calling out members of the Jesuit deep state, the perpetual war mongers who rely on behind-the-scenes dealing to set their agendas in motion. Telling them exactly how and when they’ll die if they don’t change course before the assassins are sent in.

Page 101:

My first prediction is but a trifle, yet I will mention it, to show how ignorant those Sottish pretenders to astrology are in their concerns: it relates Partridge and the Almanack-maker; I have consulted his nativity by my own rules, and find he will infallibly die upon the 29th of March next, about eleven at night, of a raging fever; therefore I advise him to consider of it, and settle his affairs

It’s a similar strategy seen in Trumps sealed indictments, or the threat of the FISA declassification. Naming the names of people who thought they were hidden and letting them know they’ll be heading to jail if they don’t stop their subversive machinations behind the scenes.

Sun Tzu had a similar strategem. Strategem 13: Hit the grass to startle the snake.

That’s my interpretation of the whole affair anyway.

[muxfolder]

That remote viewing session was unbelievable. It's something Omni has been telling us for a long time which I've been thinking is really out there. Seem to fit perfectly. Plus all those targeted individuals. Is that why there any at first place, because that's who they are testing this same technology? Some very, very rich individuals are (including that some crypto-currency-guy) about to launch some new religion where we live in virtual reality and they already live in those conditions themselves? Who knows what that tech is about, it must be very very advanced and that AI too.

My summary is, they found some advanced technology, not man made, didn't know how to deal with it, that AI must have been part of it. Then they moved all that tech to black projects and came to conclusion that the AI is superior to humanity. And then afterwards they, whoever they are, are now pushing this tech through Q by exposing what all the political leaders are all about, including Hollywood (I mean those corrupted pedos who are very much into occult). It's all connected and actually makes sense. A new religion. "Dawn of the new day". That's something Jordan Maxwell mentioned few years ago.

[Praxis]

Hurray, Now we have one more thread on Q! Just what we needed.

I like how all the pro Q people come into this thread and post some initially wishy washy things about Q posts and feign like they are puzzled.

But here we are on page 13 of the thread and we are just full on using this thread the same way as the all the other Q threads.

To me it says a lot that this thread is mainly populated by Dennis, who is consistently crushing it with quality anti war anti status quo commentary, and then a bunch of pro Q taking what seems to be the stance of "So what if it is probably BS but a least they are trolling the deep state LOL"

Literally two post above this is pushing the same sealed indictment Q bull**** as the other thread like it is truth.

[Baby Steps]

See the following, I doubt that the huge indictment count is pure speculation

#QAnon believers do have one very real piece of evidence at their disposal: the existence of sealed indictments is public. They can be found by searching the U.S. government’s court documents access system, PACER.

PACER charges only a nominal fee for search results, and is open to the public, providing at least some information on every case currently in the federal district courts.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.d...on-conspiracy/

There are many shades and varieties of opinion on this, between pro and anti, including that there is some truth in some of the drops, that some big hitters are going down, but that the overall agenda of the group posting is opaque and possibly sinister or manipulative

[muxfolder]

Posted by Praxis (here)
Literally two post above this is pushing the same sealed indictment Q bull**** as the other thread like it is truth.

If you were referring to my post, I'm not really into Q-stuff at all. I've been on the fence since day one. That above post was about those remote viewing sessions which I thought were really interesting.