The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[RunningDeer]

Posted by justntime2learn (here)
Does anyone remember Paul's request?

Posted by waree (here)
…Do you know where Paul went?

Posted by crosby;1302071[B
]If Paul were to see what has happened here[/B], he would probably cry. He knows what is happening in the background.

Paul more than hinted to us on June 17th that this thread may be moved and his thoughts on it.

From Paul’s son, Sam:

Hey guys, this is Sam, son of Paul. He wanted me to let all of you know that his ear disease is acting up again, and he won't be online for a few days.

Also, Bill, Paul hopes that you will not move this thread offline out of public view.

For those that missed Paul's post as to why it was time to move on: ‘four things, that all came together at the same time, in the space of a couple of days’. (full explanation)



Note: I added bold and color to Sam's post.

[AutumnW]

Apparently both Clinton and Trump were friends with Epstein though Epstein was hosted at Mar-Lego by Trump. I can't find any evidence of any other prez hosting him. It's almost like they're good buddies.

[justntime2learn]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by justntime2learn (here)
Does anyone remember Paul's request?

Posted by waree (here)
…Do you know where Paul went?

Posted by crosby;1302071[B
]If Paul were to see what has happened here[/B], he would probably cry. He knows what is happening in the background.

Paul more than hinted to us on June 17th that this thread may be moved and his thoughts on it.

From Paul’s son, Sam:

Hey guys, this is Sam, son of Paul. He wanted me to let all of you know that his ear disease is acting up again, and he won't be online for a few days.

Also, Bill, Paul hopes that you will not move this thread offline out of public view.

For those that missed Paul's post as to why it was time to move on: ‘four things, that all came together at the same time, in the space of a couple of days’. (full explanation here)

Note: I added bold and color to Sam's post.

Thank you, Paula ❤️

[paul_test_2]

Posted by Paul (here)
As members and moderators, individually and collectively, we here on this forum, as well as others elsewhere on the Web, are increasingly unable to handle this situation well. Our various ways of dealing with such conflicts are not always adequate to the task.

As explained for example in Brandon Smith's latest article "The Next Stage Of The Engineered Global Economic Reset Has Arrived" that I just posted Post #421 on my Global Currency Reset thread, this is not just an internal American political problem. This is a global problem for humanity.

Our ability, here on Avalon, to productively discuss the various aspects of such a multi-faceted and evolving complex of problems is failing.

"They" can't take us down like they can a Youtube channel, a Facebook account, or a Twitter feed ... but they can take us down, render us less and less effective by keeping our more important stuff off Google search results, and by overrunning us with emotionally charged hostilities that lower the quality of discourse below the useful level and that often reduce us to reacting on more primitive or emotional levels, thus more easily herded and controlled.

Let us continue to do our best to avoid emotionally charged attacks on opposing views, and especially on opposing groups or people. Let us each keep our own bodies, hearts, minds and spirits, individually and collectively, operating at the highest, healthiest, most honorable levels that we can achieve.

This particular thread is one of the more important threads on Avalon at present, and perhaps the most widely read thread on Avalon. I was able to play a key role in keeping this thread healthy and public when tumult threatened it, a half year ago. I doubt I will be able to do so much longer.

Let us each do and be our best, for ourselves, and for those around us.

As I foretold, almost exactly one month ago now.

[avid]

Welcome Paul, please stay - we’ve missed you

[crosby]

Posted by paul_test_2 (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
As members and moderators, individually and collectively, we here on this forum, as well as others elsewhere on the Web, are increasingly unable to handle this situation well. Our various ways of dealing with such conflicts are not always adequate to the task.

As explained for example in Brandon Smith's latest article "The Next Stage Of The Engineered Global Economic Reset Has Arrived" that I just posted Post #421 on my Global Currency Reset thread, this is not just an internal American political problem. This is a global problem for humanity.

Our ability, here on Avalon, to productively discuss the various aspects of such a multi-faceted and evolving complex of problems is failing.

"They" can't take us down like they can a Youtube channel, a Facebook account, or a Twitter feed ... but they can take us down, render us less and less effective by keeping our more important stuff off Google search results, and by overrunning us with emotionally charged hostilities that lower the quality of discourse below the useful level and that often reduce us to reacting on more primitive or emotional levels, thus more easily herded and controlled.

Let us continue to do our best to avoid emotionally charged attacks on opposing views, and especially on opposing groups or people. Let us each keep our own bodies, hearts, minds and spirits, individually and collectively, operating at the highest, healthiest, most honorable levels that we can achieve.

This particular thread is one of the more important threads on Avalon at present, and perhaps the most widely read thread on Avalon. I was able to play a key role in keeping this thread healthy and public when tumult threatened it, a half year ago. I doubt I will be able to do so much longer.

Let us each do and be our best, for ourselves, and for those around us.

As I foretold, almost exactly one month ago now.

Yes, you called it like it is. We miss you and hope you are doing well. I will move forward cautiously to try to maintain composure and keep the integrity of this thread intact.

warmest,
crosby

[Jayke]

Bad day for Epstein’s islanders... even Prince Andrews connection to the place is front page trending news on twitter.

Bill Clinton, George Nader and Tony Podesta at Epstein's Lolita Island!


George Nader was also arrested last month for producing child porn.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/03/p...ges/index.html

[samildamach]

If you post on this thread are you fair game for personal attacks without recourse?
Some are clearly hiding behind long posts and big words ,and there glee is evident, behind the scenes daggers have been drawn and sharpened for this day.

[The Moss Trooper]

Posted by Jayke (here)
Bad day for Epstein’s islanders... even Prince Andrews connection to the place is front page trending news on twitter.

Bill Clinton, George Nader and Tony Podesta at Epstein's Lolita Island!


George Nader was also arrested last month for producing child porn.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/03/p...ges/index.html

Do not forget about the, ever-so-charming, Ghislaine Maxwell (pictured here on the r/h/s).

Attachment 41025
L-R: Randy Andy, Virginia Roberts, Ghislaine Maxwell



Epsteins right-hand-woman, the network co-ordinator, the go-getter, the Western/Southern hemisphere bridge. I believe she is to be appearing in court along-side Epstein. * (Founder of the TerraNova Foundation),* Founder of the TerraMar Project, advocates for the protection of the World's oceans (one can guess why the ocean is so important to her, and her activities), strong ties to European Royalty and high-net-worth networks. Daughter of the disgraced and deceased Robert Maxwell.

She is one major player in the elite child-trafficking network. One to watch closely.


* Apologies. Sloppy research on my behalf. Maxwell is the founder of The TerraMar Project, a project designed to bring awareness and action for the protection of the World's oceans. The error is regretted.

https://theterramarproject.org

[crosby]

Posted by samildamach (here)
If you post on this thread are you fair game for personal attacks without recourse?
Some are clearly hiding behind long posts and big words ,and there glee is evident, behind the scenes daggers have been drawn and sharpened for this day.

I don't know samildamach. It looks like slings and arrows have been out and about. People feel as though they have been attacked personally. Some feel that there is more at stake than hurt feelings. Some have opined they really don't care one way or the other. Some just want the world to know the truth, and some want to hide what is in plain sight.

I'm just going to stick with researching because there is a long road ahead. We are all at risk of something bad happening - hopefully, everyone will stay the course of what they want to research here on PA and just keep moving forward. We have lost many good people from our family. I hope that no more jump ship.

Many things are happening - and the truth is coming out, regardless of whether or not this thread is stashed behind closed doors. People are going to see the truth. It is right in front of our eyes.

warmest,
crosby

[Jayke]

Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)

Posted by Jayke (here)
Bad day for Epstein’s islanders... even Prince Andrews connection to the place is front page trending news on twitter.

Bill Clinton, George Nader and Tony Podesta at Epstein's Lolita Island!


George Nader was also arrested last month for producing child porn.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/03/p...ges/index.html

Do not forget about the, ever-so-charming, Ghislaine Maxwell (pictured here on the r/h/s).

Attachment 41025
L-R: Randy Andy, Virginia Roberts, Ghislaine Maxwell



Epsteins right-hand-woman, the network co-ordinator, the go-getter, the Western/Southern hemisphere bridge. I believe she is to be appearing in court along-side Epstein. Founder of the TerraNova Foundation, advocates for the protection of the World's oceans (one can guess why the ocean is so important to her, and her activities), strong ties to European Royalty and high-net-worth networks. Daughter of the disgraced and deceased Robert Maxwell.

She is one major player in the elite child-trafficking network. One to watch closely.

Holy ****!

Terra Nova is a ‘liberal’ left-wing thinktank that promotes “progressive” policies. No wonder the “progressive” liberals have been so intent on getting this thread shunned from public view.

Yet we’re the ones accused of disseminating deep state propoganda!

I find the irony to be slightly vindicating in this instance.

• https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Nova_(think_tank)

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Terra Nova is a French independent liberal think tank (or "Progressive Foundation") considered close to the French Socialist Party and now close to the French President, Emmanuel Macron.[1] It produces reports and analyses of current political issues and aims to contribute to public debate by formulating progressive policy solutions. Through its work it also seeks to contribute to the renewal of social democracy and social democratic ideas in France and across Europe.[2]

Terra Nova
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Progressive think tank
President
Lionel Zinsou
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Terra Nova was set up in 2008 by Olivier Ferrand (future Socialist Party deputy and former adviser to Prime Minister Lionel Jospin) in order to contribute to the intellectual renewal of left-wing politics. Since then, Terra Nova has gained significant influence in political and media circles, producing over 30 major reports between 2008 and 2012, which have been frequently reported in newspapers such as Le Monde[3] and Libération.[4] In 2009, it was a Terra Nova report of 2008 that was instrumental in persuading the Socialist Party to adopt a system of open primaries (see French Socialist Party presidential primary, 2011) for the 2012 French presidential election.[5] In the same year, another Terra Nova report proved controversial in arguing that the Left should rely less on a traditional working class electorate and more on a broad coalition of women, young people, and ethnic minorities, all united by 'Progressive Values'.[6]

[crosby]

Here is a pretty good video by SpaceShot76:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YxizdmOvN1c

crosby

[Billy]

Posted by ClearWater (here)
Perhaps I missed this being posted somewhere, but it seems that Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested for the sex trafficking of minors in New York and Florida, and is set to appear in court in New York on Monday.

Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

For more than a decade, Epstein’s alleged abuse of minors has been the subject of lawsuits brought by victims, investigations by local and federal authorities, and exposés in the press. But despite the attention cast on his alleged sex crimes, the hedge-funder has managed to avoid any meaningful jail time, let alone federal charges.

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls in a now-familiar scheme: paying them cash for "massages" and then molesting or sexually abusing them in his Upper East Side mansion or his palatial residence in Palm Beach. Epstein will be charged with one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors—which could put him away for a maximum of 45 years. The case is being handled by the Public Corruption Unit of the Southern District of New York, with assistance from the district's human-trafficking officials and the FBI.

Source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...-minors-source

Can someone please post the recent Qanon drop where this very important recent development was mentioned by Qanon before the arrest took place ?

[Richard S.]

Posted by Star Mariner (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
The Q topic has wreaked havoc on Avalon, resulting in many casualties. Something had to be done.

Mike, the Q topic has caused no problems at all. Everyone interested in this thread, actively studying this Q material, were all ticking along just fine. The only havoc we've seen was caused was by those speaking out against Q, attacking Q, and wanting nothing to do with Q.

In fact they've been actively trying to destroy it every which way. But it's the Q researchers, not the trolls (and that's the only word for them) were the ones banished and penalized...?

If you truly understood the Q material, you'd know by now it was 100% bipartisan. By taking this action you're taking sides, which is precisely what Avalon shouldn't be doing. Q is not about left versus right. Republican against Democrat. People versus people. It's about fighting the darkness and the corruption, bringing truth to light, and people together. It has done that, and IS doing that. Or at least trying to. Taking this action will have the exact opposite effect.

This is quite possibly the most unfortunate decision ever taken on this forum. It should be reversed and quickly. Even if Q proves to be fake, this thread and this research should be allowed to play out in the open for all to see. Let it stand or fall by its own merit. That's always been my take on any subject matter. The alternative is CENSORSHIP. And this is what this is. It's potentially a HUGE mistake.

Wow! Spot on...

[Jayke]

Posted by Billy (here)

Posted by ClearWater (here)
Perhaps I missed this being posted somewhere, but it seems that Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested for the sex trafficking of minors in New York and Florida, and is set to appear in court in New York on Monday.

Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

For more than a decade, Epstein’s alleged abuse of minors has been the subject of lawsuits brought by victims, investigations by local and federal authorities, and exposés in the press. But despite the attention cast on his alleged sex crimes, the hedge-funder has managed to avoid any meaningful jail time, let alone federal charges.

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls in a now-familiar scheme: paying them cash for "massages" and then molesting or sexually abusing them in his Upper East Side mansion or his palatial residence in Palm Beach. Epstein will be charged with one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors—which could put him away for a maximum of 45 years. The case is being handled by the Public Corruption Unit of the Southern District of New York, with assistance from the district's human-trafficking officials and the FBI.

Source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...-minors-source

Can someone please post the recent Qanon drop where this very important recent development was mentioned by Qanon before the arrest took place ?

Will evidence of such provide enough verifiable facts to convince the mod team that there’s more to the Q phenomenon than just a larp or hoax? (Still not ruling out psy-op which has been my assessment from the start).

https://www.qanonposts.io/?s=Jeffrey+Epstein+

Mar 20 2019 15:55:42 (EST) !!mG7VJxZNCI Q ID: 20edf2
5795457→
696df70fb610ebf20b3ffb6f77188c0bc5d98ffa11c55f817ab114a6fe38f71f.jpg


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...awsuit-1229908
Drop #3050
[Will the rich & powerful influence the court to prevent the unsealing?]
Follow the ATTORNEY.
Who took the pic?
Who was located behind the camera?
Sex_trafficking_is_real.
Q

3183
Mar 25 2019 16:36:33 (EST) !!mG7VJxZNCI Q ID: ce08b2
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-dies-1292394
Do you believe in coincidences?
Q

From the Q drop above:

Judge overseeing key Jeffrey Epstein-related suit dies
By JOSH GERSTEIN 03/25/2019
An elderly federal judge presiding over a key lawsuit relating to financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein died Sunday, adding another twist to the drawn-out legal saga and to efforts to unseal still-secret details about the conduct of Epstein, his enablers and one of his accusers.

Manhattan-based U.S. District Court Judge Robert Sweet passed away Sunday at age 96, the court announced. Sweet was appointed by President Jimmy Carter in 1978, confirmed that same year and continued to hear and rule on cases through the last few months.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Billy (here)
Can someone please post the recent Qanon drop where this very important recent development was mentioned by Qanon before the arrest took place ?

Hi Billy, it's not recent; it goes quite a way back (please note the date on the image attached - there was no specific date for the arrest provided by Q).

Q drops # 3050, 3129-3159 - there are many more involving Child Trafficking, particularly Hollywood & the "elite".

Big names will be arrested, Hollywood, politicians and big business, etc.



Please be our guest (Q's drops are "circular", in as much that you need to view the Q Map in order to understand how they post - ie they hop from one "topic" to another - in this case, Child Trafficking) :

https://qanon.pub/

[crosby]

So what I find very interesting is that Q had said watch for Ray Chandler in the news....... so I was paying attention to that and forgetting that epstein was sitting on first base just waiting to be nailed with a pop-up...... I wasn't expecting him to be hooked on a Saturday...... good timing for the unsuspecting I suppose.... but when does chandler come back into play?

Q uestions to ponder.

crosby

[Chuck]

One thing that I do not understand in all this mess is... all those who desire to censor this very informative Q thread from public view are the same people who are concerned about the image and well being of Avalon.

Avalon has been a source and sanctuary for many years, of revealing truth and sharing of critical information. It continues to do so. If freedom of information and freedom to choose and desire for the best of humanity lies at the core then why be concerned on who or how fellow humans come to Avalon to learn? Once they are here (even if attracted by that beastly Q thread) and begin to explore the vast information here, is more enlightenment not possible?

Instead of cloistering the Q thread away could it not be a catalyst to attract thousands? This movement is 'ginormous' whether you like it or not, and it is not going away anytime soon. Avalon could continue it's leadership in the alternative news scene and be the example of allowing people their voice in public... holding a sacred place... no matter how diverse. Isn't that a godly thing?

There is no need to feel threatened by a new movement ... for there will always be one. The key is for the public to have access to the information of the movements of present and past so as to put things into perspective. Avalon has ALL of that!

My 2c is that what you want to censor from public will weaken not strengthen Avalon.

[ulli]

One of my friendswrote this: “Of course the Mockingbird Media is trying to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein now that he’s finally been arrested for child sex trafficking. I thoroughly researched Trump’s ties to Epstein years ago before he was even elected POTUS. Let me go over some bullet points for you that you can use as artillery to fight the fake news here on social media. President Trump has not been on his private plane the Lolita Express. He also kicked Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago years ago after he found out he’s a serial child rapist & trafficker. He even mentioned how Bill Clinton is going to have a problem in the future with Epstein & his island at CPAC in 2015. On the other hand, Bill Clinton has been documented going to his island over 25 times via flight logs & Erik Prince went on the record in 2016 via Breitbart Radio stating Hillary has been there at least 3x. (This is all open source information — I encourage everyone to research this for yourselves!) Isn’t it convenient that the MSM doesn’t mention any of this?”

[Jayke]

Just adding a video snippet to support Ullis comment above. When Trump was asked about Bill Clinton... “nice guy but got a lot of problems coming up on the famous island with Jeffery Epstein.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0vh0AklSXkU