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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Back to the question of the children.

    Why are our children so little affected by what is happening?

    What is it about a childs immune system that is different to an adults?

    Why should there be any difference?

    What is it that we don't yet know or understand about nature?

    I ask these questions purely for contemplation and they are rhetorical in their nature.
    Could it be that their immune system is in better order due to less vaccines/flu shots than adults?
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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Back to the question of the children.

    Why are our children so little affected by what is happening?

    What is it about a childs immune system that is different to an adults?

    Why should there be any difference?

    What is it that we don't yet know or understand about nature?

    I ask these questions purely for contemplation and they are rhetorical in their nature.
    Could it be that their immune system is in better order due to less vaccines/flu shots than adults?
    Chris
    What part didn't you get about the questions being rhetorical Chris?

    However, that is a very good question. Initially, I wanted to take a stab at answering your question but your question just seemed to bring up more questions.

    Questions such as:

    What kind of overall health are children around the world experiencing at this present time?

    Are childrens immune systems currently in better shape than adults?

    Are childrens immune systems vastly different from adults? And if so, why?

    How could we possibly establish how many vaccines each adult individual has received to date who has been affected by COVID vs how many vaccines children have received who have been unaffected by COVID? Is it even statistically possible?

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    God Save Donald Trump & our Children (The Great Awakening)

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Am I crazy?
    Am I suicidal?

    Since the very beginning of the pandemic I have shunned all TV and MSM fear porn about the killer virus.
    You should have done that since ever, not just because of the "virus"

    Quote I have three university degrees, so someone can't claim I am uneducated.
    Xmmm, really that doesn't means much, some people can buy degrees and some people have them but are not good at all on their area, it's just a paper

    I think the part where those papers start showing real education is when the person holding the title does something significant, because there are "engineers without title and there are titles without engineer"

    I'm sorry i could not resist

    Quote Why do I have no fear when I am out and about in the public?
    Because you know what you know :D

    Quote Why do I see no need to wear a face mask?
    Because you are looking up for yourself, and other people looking out for themselves, but there's no intersection between your needs and their needs

    Quote Why do I ignore markers on the floor for social distancing and directions to follow in store aisles?
    I also like to feel i rebel against stuff like that, it makes me feel punk and free

    Quote Why do I not cower and keep a distance as others approach me when I walk?


    Quote What's wrong with me?
    Does anyone know?
    Nothing much, just normal person, nothing to think much about really, your choices are yours, as much as other people have their own

    Everything can be seen and taken from different points of views, it doesn't mean much in the end, just people living their lives making their own choices. Right?
    Tired

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus


    “No one has died from the coronavirus” Important revelations shared by Dr Stoian Alexov, President of the Bulgarian Pathology Association


    https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/02/...y-association/

    high-profile European pathologist is reporting that he and his colleagues across Europe have not found any evidence of any deaths from the novel coronavirus on that continent.

    Dr. Stoian Alexov called the World Health Organization (WHO) a “criminal medical organization” for creating worldwide fear and chaos without providing objectively verifiable proof of a pandemic.

    Another stunning revelation from Bulgarian Pathology Association (BPA) president Dr. Alexov is that he believes it’s currently “impossible” to create a vaccine against the virus.

    He also revealed that European pathologists haven’t identified any antibodies that are specific for SARS-CoV-2.

    These stunning statements raise major questions, including about officials’ and scientists’ claims regarding the many vaccines they’re rushing into clinical trials around the world.

    They also raise doubt about the veracity of claims of discovery of anti-novel-coronavirus antibodies (which are beginning to be used to treat patients).

    Novel-coronavirus-specific antibodies are supposedly the basis for the expensive serology test kits being used in many countries (some of which have been found to be unacceptably inaccurate).

    And they’re purportedly key to the immunity certificates coveted by Bill Gates that are about to go into widespread use — in the form of the COVI-PASS — in 15 countries including the UK, US, and Canada.

    Dr. Alexov made his jaw-dropping observations in a video interview summarizing the consensus of participants in a May 8, 2020, European Society of Pathology (ESP) webinar on COVID-19.

    The May 13 video interview of Dr. Alexov was conducted by Dr. Stoycho Katsarov, chair of the Center for Protection of Citizens’ Rights in Sofia and a former Bulgarian deputy minister of health. The video is on the BPA’s website, which also highlights some of Dr. Alexov’s main points.

    We asked a native Bulgarian speaker with a science background to orally translate the video interview into English. We then transcribed her translation. The video is here and our English transcript is here.

    Among the major bombshells Dr. Alexov dropped is that the leaders of the May 8 ESP webinar said no novel-coronavirus-specific antibodies have been found.

    The body forms antibodies specific to pathogens it encounters. These specific antibodies are known as monoclonal antibodies and are a key tool in pathology. This is done via immunohistochemistry, which involves tagging antibodies with colours and then coating the biopsy- or autopsy-tissue slides with them. After giving the antibodies time to bind to the pathogens they’re specific for, the pathologists can look at the slides under a microscope and see the specific places where the coloured antibodies — and therefore the pathogens they’re bound to – are located.

    Therefore, in the absence of monoclonal antibodies to the novel coronavirus, pathologists cannot verify whether SARS-CoV-2 is present in the body, or whether the diseases and deaths attributed to it indeed were caused by the virus rather than by something else.

    It would be easy to dismiss Dr. Alexov as just another crank ‘conspiracy theorist.’ After all many people believe they’re everywhere these days, spreading dangerous misinformation about COVID-19 and other issues.

    In addition, little of what Dr. Alexov alleges was the consensus from the May 8 webinar is in the publicly viewable parts of the proceedings.

    But keep in mind that whistleblowers often stand alone because the vast majority of people are afraid to speak out publicly.

    Also, Dr. Alexov has an unimpugnable record and reputation. He’s been a physician for 30 years. He’s president of the BPA, a member of the ESP’s Advisory Board and head of the histopathology department at the Oncology Hospital in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia.

    On top of that, there’s other support for what Dr. Alexov is saying.

    For example, the director of the Institute of Forensic Medicine at the University Medical Center Hamburg-Eppendorf in Germany said in media interviews that there’s a striking dearth of solid evidence for COVID-19’s lethality.

    “COVID-19 is a fatal disease only in exceptional cases, but in most cases it is a predominantly harmless viral infection,” Dr. Klaus Püschel told a German paper in April. Adding in another interview:

    In quite a few cases, we have also found that the current corona infection has nothing whatsoever to do with the fatal outcome because other causes of death are present, for example, a brain hemorrhage or a heart attack […] [COVID-19 is] not particularly dangerous viral disease […] All speculation about individual deaths that have not been expertly examined only fuel anxiety.”

    Also, one of us (Rosemary) and another journalist, Amory Devereux, documented in a June 9 Off-Guardian article that the novel coronavirus has not fulfilled Koch’s postulates.

    These postulates are scientific steps used to prove whether a virus exists and has a one-to-one relationship with a specific disease. We showed that to date no one has proven SARS-CoV-2 causes a discrete illness matching the characteristics of all the people who ostensibly died from COVID-19. Nor has the virus has been isolated, reproduced and then shown to cause this discrete illness.

    In addition, in a June 27 Off-Guardian article two more journalists, Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter, added to the evidence that “the existence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA is based on faith, not fact.”

    The pair also confirmed “there is no scientific proof that those RNA sequences [deemed to match that of the novel coronavirus] are the causative agent of what is called COVID-19.”

    Dr. Alexov stated in the May 13 interview that:

    the main conclusion [of those of us who participated in the May 8 webinar] was that the autopsies that were conducted in Germany, Italy, Spain, France and Sweden do not show that the virus is deadly.”

    He added that:

    What all of the pathologists said is that there’s no one who has died from the coronavirus. I will repeat that: no one has died from the coronavirus.”

    Dr. Alexov also observed there is no proof from autopsies that anyone deemed to have been infected with the novel coronavirus died only from an inflammatory reaction sparked by the virus (presenting as interstitial pneumonia) rather than from other potentially fatal diseases.

    Another revelation of his is that:

    “We need to see exactly how the law will deal with immunization and that vaccine that we’re all talking about, because I’m certain it’s [currently] not possible to create a vaccine against COVID. I’m not sure what exactly Bill Gates is doing with his laboratories – is it really a vaccine he’s producing, or something else?”

    As pointed to above, the inability to identify monoclonal antibodies for the virus suggests there is no basis for the vaccines, serological testing and immunity certificates being rolled out around the globe at unprecedented speed and cost. In fact, there is no solid evidence the virus exists.

    Dr. Alexov made still more important points. For example, he noted that, in contrast to the seasonal influenza, SARS-CoV-2 hasn’t been proven to kill youth:

    [With the flu] we can find one virus which can cause a young person to die with no other illness present […] In other words, the coronavirus infection is an infection that does not lead to death. And the flu can lead to death.”

    (There have been reports of severe maladies such as Kawasaki-like disease and stroke in young people who were deemed to have a novel-coronavirus infection. However, the majority of published papers on these cases are very short and include only one or only a small handful of patients. Moreover, commenters on the papers note it’s impossible to determine the role of the virus because the papers’ authors did not control sufficiently, if at all, for confounding factors. It’s most likely that children’s deaths attributed to COVID-19 in fact are from multiple organ failure resulting from the combination of the drug cocktail and ventilation that these children are subjected to.)

    Dr. Alexov therefore asserted that:

    the WHO is creating worldwide chaos, with no real facts behind what they’re saying.”

    Among the myriad ways the WHO is creating that chaos is by prohibiting almost all autopsies of people deemed to have died from COVID-19. As a result, reported Dr. Alexov, by May 13 only three such autopsies had been conducted in Bulgaria.

    Also, the WHO is dictating that everyone said to be infected with the novel coronavirus who subsequently dies must have their deaths attributed to COVID-19.

    “That’s quite stressful for us, and for me in particular, because we have protocols and procedures which we need to use,” he told Dr. Katsarov. “…And another pathologist 100 years from now is going to say, ‘Hey, those pathologists didn’t know what they were doing [when they said the cause of death was COVID-19]!’ So we need to be really strict with our diagnoses, because they could be proven [or disproven], and they could be checked again later.”

    He disclosed that pathologists in several countries in Europe, as well as in China, Australia and Canada are strongly resisting the pressure on them to attribute deaths to COVID-19 alone:

    I’m really sad that we need to follow the [WHO’s] instructions without even thinking about them. But in Germany, France, Italy and England they’re starting to think that we shouldn’t follow the WHO so strictly, and [instead] when we’re writing the cause of death we should have some pathology [results to back that up] and we should follow the protocol. [That’s because] when we say something we need to be able to prove it.”

    (He added that autopsies could have helped confirm or disprove the theory that many of the people deemed to have died of COVID-19 in Italy had previously received the H1N1 flu vaccine. Because, as he noted, the vaccine suppresses adults’ immune systems and therefore may have been a significant contributor to their deaths by making them much more susceptible to infection.)

    Drs. Alexov and Katsarov agreed that yet another aspect of the WHO-caused chaos and its fatal consequences is many people are likely to die soon from diseases such as cancer because the lockdowns, combined with the emptying of hospitals (ostensibly to make room for COVID-19 patients), halted all but the most pressing procedures and treatments.

    They also observed these diseases are being exacerbated by the fear and chaos surrounding COVID-19.

    We know that stress significantly suppresses the immune system, so I can really claim 200% that all the chronic diseases will be more severe and more acute per se. Specifically in situ carcinoma – over 50% of these are going to become more invasive […] So I will say that this epidemic isn’t so much an epidemic of the virus, it’s an epidemic of giving people a lot of fear and stress.”

    In addition, posited Dr. Alexov, as another direct and dire result of the pandemic panic many people are losing faith in physicians.

    Because in my opinion the coronavirus isn’t that dangerous, and how are people going to have trust in me doing cancer pathology, much of which is related to viruses as well? But nobody is talking about that.”

    We emailed Dr. Alexov several questions, including asking why he believes it’s impossible to create a vaccine against COVID-19.

    He didn’t answer the questions directly. Dr. Alexov instead responded:

    We also emailed five of Dr. Alexov’s colleagues in the ESP asking them to confirm Dr. Alexov’s revelations. We followed up by telephone with two of them. None responded.

    Why didn’t Dr. Alexov or his five colleagues answer our questions?

    We doubt it’s due to lack of English proficiency.

    It’s more likely because of the pressure on pathologists to follow the WHO’s directives and not speak out publicly. (And, on top of that, pathology departments depend on governments for their funding.)

    Nonetheless, pathologists like Drs. Alexov and Püschel appear to be willing to step out and say that no one has died from a novel-coronavirus infection.

    Perhaps that’s because pathologists’ records and reputations are based on hard physical evidence rather than on subjective interpretation of tests, signs and symptoms. And there is no hard physical evidence that COVID-19 is deadly.
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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Am I crazy?
    Why do I have no fear when I am out and about in the public?
    Why do I see no need to wear a face mask?
    Why do I ignore markers on the floor for social distancing and directions to follow in store aisles?
    Why do I not cower and keep a distance as others approach me when I walk?
    I think many if not most here fit that behavioural profile. Welcome to the club. You are a true Avalonian.

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    I tend to agree one of the most direct routes to mental health is to Kill Your TV.

    By extension, that includes the majority of the internet used as a copy/paste of "opinions we are supposed to choose".

    Weapon or not, yes, evidence of the virus is found in Spain many months before the Chinese were intelligent enough to isolate and identify it.

    If no big deal was made, hardly anyone would care, it would just be treated.

    If it was a wave of Plague, Ebola, etc., we would see it coming and then yes, a strong reaction might be necessary, for instance at the point when people finally demand the government do something. Not the government having a stockbrokers' party and telling the people what to do.

    This is very upside-down, and, I think, part of the main point is to beat the media and government down to a trivial role, they are not reliable sources of anything--more like a way to make monkeys jump around.

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    I noticed yesterday that someone (I assume a moderator) changed the title of this thread that I started. I wasn’t consulted or notified about it.

    My title was simply: "What's wrong with me?"

    It was changed to: "What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the virus"


    When I noticed the change yesterday, I edited the title in my original post to include "killer" because that is what I stated inside my initial post and the word is important to me.

    So my edited title read: "What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus".

    Looking at posts after I made the edit, I noticed the following:

    If someone replied to my initial post: “killer” is included in the title
    If someone replied to the thread, but didn’t quote anyone: “killer” is not included in the title
    If someone replied to the thread and quoted someone who did not reply to my initial post: “killer” is not included in the title.
    And I assume that if someone replies to the thread and quotes someone who did reply to my initial post, “killer” will be included in the title.

    My request to moderators, could you please change the official title of the thread so that it reads:

    "What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus" ?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    The Screw is Tightening

    nternational best-selling author, Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA, explains how and why we are all still being deliberately terrified by our governments, analyses the coronavirus which he first exposed in February 2020, and challenges the UK's Chief Medical Officer to a debate about vaccination.
    For more unbiased information about other important issues, please visit http://www.vernoncoleman.com
    The transcripts of the videos that YouTube banned are also on the website (click on the 'Health' button and see top of page).
    Thank you for all your support and encouragement.
    Please feel free to share this video.

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    Posted by viking Bombshell Disclosure from a Consultant at a Major Hospital.

    http://tapnewswire.com/2020/07/bombs...ajor-hospital/


    I am a consultant at a major, regional hospital in Surrey. By major you can take that to indicate that we have an A&E department. I had agreed to give an interview to an anti lockdown activist in which I would have revealed my identity. I have since changed my mind and only feel able to give an anonymous statement.

    I have changed my mind simply because that all staff, no matter what grade, at all hospitals have been warned that if they give any media interviews at all or make any statements to either the Main Stream Press or smaller, independent press /social media we may, immediately be suspended without pay. I have a family, dependents and I simply cant do it to them. I therefore can not reveal my identity at this time but wish to state as follows:

    In my opinion, and that of many of my colleagues, there has been no Covid Pandemic, certainly not in the Surrey region and I have heard from other colleagues this picture is the same throughout the country. Our hospital would normally expect to see around 350,000 out patients a year. Around 95,000 patients are admitted to hospital in a normal year and we would expect to see around a similar figure, perhaps 100,000 patients pass through our A&E department. In the months from March to June (inclusive) we would normally expect to see 100,000 out patients, around 30,000 patients admitted to hospital and perhaps 30,000 pass through A&E. This year (and these figures are almost impossible to get hold of) we are over 95% down on all those numbers. In effect, the hospital has been pretty much empty for that entire period.

    At the start, staff that questioned this were told that we were being used as ‘redundant’ capacity, kept back for the ‘deluge’ we were told would come. It never did come, and when staff began to question this, comments like, ‘for the greater good’ and to ‘protect the NHS’ came down from above. Now it’s just along the lines of, ‘Shut up or you don’t get paid’. The few Covid cases that we have had get repeatedly tested, and every single test counted as a new case. Meaning the figures reported back to ONS / PHE (Office for National Statistics & Public Health England) were almost exponentially inflated. It could be that Covid cases reported by hospitals are between 5 to 10x higher than the real number of cases. There has been no pandemic and this goes a long way to explain why figures for the UK are so much higher than anywhere else in Europe.

    The trust has been running empty ambulances during lockdown and is still doing it now. By this I mean ambulances are driving around, with their emergency alert systems active (sirens & / or lights) with no job to go to. This I believe has been to give the impression to the public that there is more demand for ambulances than there actually is. Staff only wear face coverings/ masks & social distance when public facing, as soon as they are out of public view, the masks come off and social distancing is not observed. Indeed jokes are made about the measures, and I have heard staff express amazement that despite warnings on packets and at point of sales, telling people masks are totally ineffective and dangerous , the public still buy them, because a politician has told them too.

    We have cancelled the vast majority of operations and of these ALL elective surgery has been cancelled. That’s surgery that has been pre planned / waiting list. Non elective Surgery, this tends to be emergency surgery or that which is deemed urgent has been severely curtailed. The outcome of this is simple. People are at best being denied basic medical care and at worst, being left to die, in some cases, in much distress and pain.

    Regarding death certification. All staff that are responsible for this have been encouraged where possible to put Covid-19 complications as reason for death, even though the patient may have been asymptomatic and also not even tested for covid. I feel this simply amounts to fraudulently completed death certificates and has been responsible to grossly inflating the number of Covid deaths. The fact is that regardless of what you actually die of in hospital, it is likely that Covid-19 will feature on your death certificate. I have included with my statement the detailed published guidance from Government on Death Certification which shows how Covid-19, as a factor is encouraged to at least feature on a death certificate. Remember Covid-19 itself can not kill. What kills is complications from the virus, typically pneumonia like symptoms. These complications are in reality incredibly rare but have featured and a large amount of death certificates issued in recent months. As long as Covid-19 appears on a death certificate, that death is counted as Covid-19 in the figures released by the ONS and PHE. I genuinely believe that many death certificates, especially amongst the older 65+ demographic have been fraudulently completed so as to be counted as Covid-19 deaths when in reality Covid-19 complications did not cause the death.

    There have been Thursday nights when I stood, alone in my office and cried as I heard people cheering and clapping outside. It sickens me to see all the ‘Thank You NHS’ signs up everywhere and the stolen rainbow that for me now says one word and word only; Fear.
    There are many good people in the NHS and whilst I do not plead forgiveness for myself, I do plead for them. Most are on low pay, they joined for the right reasons and I did and have been bullied and threatened that if they don’t ‘stay on message’ they don’t eat. I know that if a way could be found to assure staff within the NHS of safety against reprisals, there would be a tsunami of whistleblowers which I have no doubt would help end this complete and brutal insanity. I am finding it increasingly hard to live with what I have been involved in and I am sorry this has happened.

    To end, I would simply say this. Politicians haven’t changed, the country has just made a fatal mistake and started trusting them without question.
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Default Re: What's wrong with me? I've shunned all fear porn about the killer virus

    My only hunch about why the children are not getting infected is that compared to senior citizens, very few children would have gotten the yearly flu shot. I wonder what percentage of those who are dying of Covid-19 also were recipients of flu shots the past two years?

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    My only hunch about why the children are not getting infected is that compared to senior citizens, very few children would have gotten the yearly flu shot. I wonder what percentage of those who are dying of Covid-19 also were recipients of flu shots the past two years?
    Good theory.
    Do you foresee any Gates-funded research lab carrying out an unbiased study about this?

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    What I'm worried about:
    • Something else very major will happen, or become visible, before November.
    Bill, please expand on that as much as you can?!

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    Oh no.
    This study confirms there is something wrong with me!

    https://www.fastcompany.com/90527258...ent-study-says

    "“We propose that this [failure to social distance] may be associated with the limitation in one’s mental capacity to simultaneously retain multiple pieces of information in working memory,”

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    What I'm worried about:
    • Something else very major will happen, or become visible, before November.
    Bill, please expand on that as much as you can?!
    Well, I can't! But I'm still worried about the possibility. A lot of people are intuiting the same kind of concern.

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    It's all confusing — still. That's why (I suspect) many people feel they have to adopt a limited but fairly rigid position. It's hard work being blown around by (and having to reconcile) so much differing information!

    There's a lot that's not yet understood:
    • Why children hardly seem to be affected.
    • Why some young-ish people, healthy as jumping beans, get hit really hard.
    • Why some people can get it twice. (This is now confirmed.)
    • Why there can be persisting neurological issues. The mechanisms are unknown. (Lung damage, too, and other lasting serious issues, but those are better understood.)
    • Why some people develop antibodies while others don't, and why those antibodies don't seem to [necessarily] prevent a recurrence of the virus.
    There's a lot of downright dishonesty:
    • The faking of numbers and falsifying of death certificates.
    • HCQ studies that have been outright designed to fail.
    • The media campaign against HCQ. (Which all the real evidence suggests is safe, cheap and effective.)
    • The TOTAL SILENCE from any medical authorities, anywhere, of anything whatsoever to do with the ability of each person to strengthen and support their own immune system. (This is such an enormous red flag it's hard to describe its size. )
    What I think we know:
    • It originated outside of China. (It's now been confirmed in Barcelona in March 2019, long before Wuhan.)
    • It's engineered. 100% for sure. Personally, I very strongly suspect it was released as a weapon, even if not initially designed as such, and China has been framed.
    • Whether opportunistic or planned, its advent is DEFINITELY being used to further a host of global control agendas.
    • There's now a more serious strain on the loose, called D614G.
    • It's not a respiratory disease, it's a blood-clotting disease.
    • The results of antibody tests are conflicting and confusing. But the significance of these so far seems to suggest that no vaccine may actually work. (It might be like the common cold, changing all the time: so no resistance, or vaccine, may be possible.)
    • The WHO is either incompetent, criminally complicit, or both.
    • Some ICUs really do seem to be near-empty. But certainly not all. The wife of a friend of mine here is a nurse, and reports that the ICU is at full capacity where she works. She can be trusted.
    • Fauci and Gates cannot be trusted (at all).
    What I additionally strongly suspect:
    • The conflict, lack of preparedness, disorganization, and sheer chaos in the US from January onwards has been deliberately engineered to add more pressure to the failing social system there, and to attack Trump indirectly. It's all too neat. (At least!)
    What I'm worried about:
    • Something else very major will happen, or become visible, before November.
    This video from Chris Martenson yesterday exactly confirms my concerns above, with a bunch of references. (And those very well shared by Gwin Ru, in his post that followed.)

    The detailed technical section from 22:34—32:04 is all about Invermectin. (It works. ) So skip over that if you like. That's not why I'm posting this here.

    And nor is this anything about whether or not one should wear masks (etc etc etc etc). As I posted earlier on this thread, there's a direct non-aligned conflict between
    1. Science
    2. Misrepresentation/falsification of the statistics
    3. Personal health decisions
    4. Social responsibility.
    This video is merely about what are increasingly looking to be the facts about this thing — if you happen to get it, or someone gets it whom you know and care about.

    THEN (having understood the info in the video), make your personal decisions.

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    YouTube CENSORED: DOCTORS IN BLACK / PlanDemic

    Dr Judy sure knows what she is talking about
    She says the virus was not naturally occurring.
    Short videos placed in the main one to confirm her story and views.
    Chris


    https://www.bitchute.com/video/zU4jR4nkrSy3/
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    Quote Posted by holcaul (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    What I'm worried about:
    • Something else very major will happen, or become visible, before November.
    Bill, please expand on that as much as you can?!
    Well, I can't! But I'm still worried about the possibility. A lot of people are intuiting the same kind of concern.
    Even Jim Stone is getting bad news from trusted insider:
    Insider info: Pandemic mayhem in October

    I just finished talking to a high ranking member of a major conservative organization that has already locked down millions of people in quarantine due to the organization having knowledge of a new virus that will be released within a time frame that slates October as a month of major mayhem.

    This organization has many elite within it's ranks yet is conservative. They have already provided comfortable quarantine to millions of people.

    Some of their people are still out and about in public, but they have protected their most valuable people with forced quarantine because they don't know when the new virus will be released and there will be two groups, those that are already quarantined and those that are not quarantined but provide support. It is a very interesting arrangement, they are obviously taking this seriously.

    Many readers of this site have probably seen the recent video clip of Bill Gates stating "This virus did not get taken seriously, but the next one will". It came off as a threat. I believe that was a real threat, and now that this organization has taken this action, it really appears we indeed have something to worry about.

    It was the conservatives that first saw through the B.S. and if this organization is not subverted it has to mean that the elite within its ranks got real insider info and there really is something new on the way to worry about. I'd say there is a 30 percent chance of subversion and a 70 percent chance this is all legit.

    Anyone with a lick of sense knows the doctors are murdering people and false registering deaths, as well as faking test results to get the stats up to actionable levels, but too many people are aware of this now and it is highly probable that the elite have therefore decided to do it for real this time.

    So it only makes sense to:
    1. If you own a business, be prepared to shut it down, now is not the time to expand and put it at risk with additional debt. If it is going under already, don't wipe yourself out trying to keep it afloat.

    2. If you consumed your Corona supplies and can build them back up, you had better get that done SOON because the clock is ticking, this time we have a solid warning.
    There is obviously a chance this is all a hoax and nothing real ever will be released, but Bill Gates actually did threaten this and this particular organization would be the last one I'd ever expect to fall for a hoax.

    Subversion is possible, but not likely.
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    The UK news is full of subtle and not so subtle warning about next wave being worse -- and of course all about coming vaccines including flu one.
    In the video above YouTube CENSORED: DOCTORS IN BLACK / PlanDemic Dr. Judy Mikovits
    Goes into great detail about the millions allready killed by vaccines -- a whole generation lost in Africa I think she said.

    Also millions will die if they accept this coming vaccine.

    USA soldiers have to take every vaccine that comes along and then there have been severe reactions when the virus actually comes along.
    I cant remember the exact term but it a well known reaction.
    The video well worth watching -- professionally put together -- rather than the usual u tube talk.
    Chris
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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Back to the question of the children.

    Why are our children so little affected by what is happening?

    What is it about a childs immune system that is different to an adults?

    Why should there be any difference?

    What is it that we don't yet know or understand about nature?

    I ask these questions purely for contemplation and they are rhetorical in their nature.
    Could it be that their immune system is in better order due to less vaccines/flu shots than adults?
    Chris
    From the Atlantic Monthly:

    Babies are born, for example, with a complete repertoire of immune cells called T cells. Every T cell has a unique receptor, and taken together, the pool of millions of T cells can recognize virtually any hypothetical pathogen. As the child begins encountering pathogens, though, their immune system winnows this diverse repertoire. It keeps the T cells involved in fighting off pathogens as a pre-stocked arsenal of “memory T cells,” should those pathogens appear again, but it begins losing the others.

    This is why adults are able to mount a rapid immune response to previously encountered pathogens, but also why they might have trouble fighting a new one. Diseases such as rubella and chicken pox are also, for various reasons, more severe in adults than in children.

    The pattern with seasonal flu is different, Farber says, but that may be because immunity against previous strains of the flu offer some crossover protection in adults.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...9-kids/611728/

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