MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

[Satori]

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
hmmmmm

SUPREME COURT TOSSES TEXAS BID TO OVERTURN ELECTION

The Court *denied* leave to file for lack of standing; Justices Thomas and Alito would have granted leave to file, but wrote to emphasize that they would *not* grant any other relief.

On to the house of representatives eh?

Dismissing a case for lack of standing is the number one way, bar all other ways, to get rid of a case when a judge (or judges or “justices”) does not want to take it, for whatever reason. The true reason never being disclosed.

Standing, or not, is one of the most subjective and convoluted principles in the law. It’s not unlike one’s preference for liking one flavor or color over another. Whose right, whose wrong, whose to say? What the judge says is what counts.

Often, where one judge says he or she sees standing another does not. Decisions on standing are ripe for and fraught with influences of politics, money, special interests, envy, whose ox is being gored......

But this ain’t over folks. Not by a long shot.

I return to add something I was thinking when I wrote the post above but forgot to state.

At the highest level of appellate review of cases, which is after all lower levels of review and when review is sought in the highest court (or in the highest court under its it original jurisdiction (as was the Texas case)) of a state, usually the Supreme Court, or the SCOTUS, these “justices” will find lack of standing and thereby decline to take a new matter.

These courts do this, sometimes (but often enough), because they already have before them a case or cases that will resolve the issues raised in the case they declined to take. This is a housekeeping thing designed to manage the case load, yet decide the issues by making rulings in the cases they already have before them, or expect to take later.

I do not know if that is what us going on the the SCOTUS, but it may be.

[T Smith]

Posted by Satori (here)

Dismissing a case for lack of standing is the number one way, bar all other ways, to get rid of a case when a judge (or judges or “justices”) does not want to take it, for whatever reason. The true reason never being disclosed.

What I don't understand is Trump intervened as a co-Plaintiff--he absolutely has standing--which is the reason I assumed he intervened, so SCOTUS couldn't throw it out on those grounds.

What gives there?

[Satori]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Satori (here)

Dismissing a case for lack of standing is the number one way, bar all other ways, to get rid of a case when a judge (or judges or “justices”) does not want to take it, for whatever reason. The true reason never being disclosed.

What I don't understand is Trump intervened as a co-Plaintiff--he absolutely has standing--which is the reason I assumed he intervened, so SCOTUS couldn't throw it out on those grounds.

What gives there?

Trump did not intervene. He, like anyone else, cannot just intervene in a case. He had to and did file a motion asking for leave of court to intervene in the Texas case. (I discussed that process in a different post.)

When the SCOTUS dismissed the Texas case, that made Trump’s motion to intervene moot. It also made moot the efforts of all the States that wanted to file amicus briefs. There is no Texas case. At least not at the moment. Thus nothing to intervene into ...

I agree Trump has standing. But, he would need to file his own case. I think he has or will.

[T Smith]

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Satori (here)

Dismissing a case for lack of standing is the number one way, bar all other ways, to get rid of a case when a judge (or judges or “justices”) does not want to take it, for whatever reason. The true reason never being disclosed.

What I don't understand is Trump intervened as a co-Plaintiff--he absolutely has standing--which is the reason I assumed he intervened, so SCOTUS couldn't throw it out on those grounds.

What gives there?

Trump did not intervene. He, like anyone else, cannot just intervene in a case. He had to and did file a motion asking for leave of court to intervene in the Texas case. (I discussed that process in a different post.)

When the SCOTUS dismissed the Texas case, that made Trump’s motion to intervene moot. It also made moot the efforts of all the States that wanted to file amicus briefs. There is no Texas case. At least not at the moment. Thus nothing to intervene into ...

I agree Trump has standing. But, he would need to file his own case. I think he has or will.

Thank you for that clarification. Can you also clarify how the court decides to take on or dismiss a case? Do they vote on its merits? What is the role of the chief justice vs. an associate justice?

[Satori]

What if, and this is, as Joseph Farrell says, “high octane speculation”, but what if:

The program is to let the 2020 [s]election go by and let Biden be anointed, then over the next 4 years certain members of the public and Congress, supported by the SCOTUS as the cases arise, oppose Biden and his handlers’ plots, programs and policies (holding these at bay); all the while gathering evidence for various purposes and, importantly, reforming election laws nationwide, thereby better ensuring (not guarantying) honest elections in 2022, 2024, and thereafter?

The result? The USA, at least, suffers through the next 4 years or so, but during that time we, the people, get our act together and clean house.

For what it’s worth....

[Iancorgi]

I don't mean any disrespect to anyone and I still hope that team Trump will pull one of the extraordinary moves we've been told were just about to happen over the last three years (Patriots have it all, D panic, Guantanamo, military courts, God talk to me...) However, January 20th is fast approaching and I can't help feeling this meme is becoming more and more accurate with each passing day:

[iota]

Posted by viking (here)
Can anyone confirm this...

Ultra-classified video footage of U.S. Military Attack on CIA operational headquarters in Germany housing the SCYTL server holding Dominion stolen election data?

VIDEO: https://drcharlieward.com/the-seized...-charlie-ward/

Viking

did anyone download the video, already it is "unavailable"

i think we're waaay beyond pretense that we are not outright censored ...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not confirmed yet....but found this snippet.

NEW: Definition of "Rumor" - Hearsay going around the web that can't be linked to, but often ends up being correct.
RUMOR: SUPREME COURT DECIDES 7-2 THAT THE ELECTION WAS FRAUDULENT AND THAT BIDEN IS GUILTY.
Additionally, the Texas case was won 6-3. The source of this info is Gnews, which claims to have "inside sources". However, I got the news of Texas going 6-3 yesterday and did not publish it as fact because I did not consider it sufficiently credible.

AND NOW WE WAIT.

http://82.221.129.208/.uy0.html

Viking

[greybeard]

BREAKING TRUMP NEWS 7PM 12/11/20 [FULL] | Newsmax's Greg Kelly Breaking Trump News Dec 11, 2020

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DiUzRdJI-YY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t4bffQNR8TM

Secret Deal of the Swiss and Chinese; Facebook Fact Checker Funded by TikTok?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vA0RHHzSpRE

[One]

Posted by Iancorgi (here)
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone and I still hope that team Trump will pull one of the extraordinary moves we've been told were just about to happen over the last three years (Patriots have it all, D panic, Guantanamo, military courts, God talk to me...) However, January 14th is fast approaching and I can't help feeling this meme is becoming more and more accurate with each passing day:

I am keeping the faith as I think that is important. I think the crushing of hope is a very effective tactic employed by the darkness poised to take control of this planet.

Logically, I can't see most of us on this site even incarnating here and bringing children into this world to live through a defeat.

I remember Magenta Pixie saying all would look lost right up to the final hour.

So I am avoiding the negative news and holding the line until Jan the 21st (where I will probably start drinking either way lol).

[greybeard]

Take heart
There is now way that Trump and all he stands for is going to be defeated.
Its not just him. but all that stands for integrity etc had this planned out long before he was President
He is just a very willing front man.
He will do what it takes -- have no doubt about this.
Chris

[One]

LATEST ‘DRAIN-THE-SWAMP’ NEWS - SATURDAY, 12TH OF DECEMBER - MORNING COFFEE EDITION
(Lots of positive info)

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QM2uZIwvvdc7

[T Smith]

Posted by Satori (here)
What if, and this is, as Joseph Farrell says, “high octane speculation”, but what if:

The program is to let the 2020 [s]election go by and let Biden be anointed, then over the next 4 years certain members of the public and Congress, supported by the SCOTUS as the cases arise, oppose Biden and his handlers’ plots, programs and policies (holding these at bay); all the while gathering evidence for various purposes and, importantly, reforming election laws nationwide, thereby better ensuring (not guarantying) honest elections in 2022, 2024, and thereafter?

The result? The USA, at least, suffers through the next 4 years or so, but during that time we, the people, get our act together and clean house.

For what it’s worth....

To be fair I didn't listen to Farrell's presentation, but given your summation of it, I personally think that's a lot of nonsense.

First, if our feckless and spineless representatives and judiciaries don't have the stones or ideological constitution to oppose the fraudulent and criminal agenda of anointing Manchurian Biden to the throne before he's even in power, what makes them all grow a set after he and his cronies of Deep State criminals have the keys to the Kingdom? That sounds like a whole lot of "awe-shucks-we'll-get-'em-next-time" hopium to me.

Second, if there is no resolve by January 5 on this issue with some degree of justice served, both run-off elections in Georgia will tilt the Senate blue, effectively rendering the USSA into a one-party vassal of the NWO/CCP. Any pushback from SCOTUS (if any) will simply be met with stacking the court to align with the one-party agenda. In fact, I would expect this to happen immediately to assure the pushback Farrell describes never has a chance to spawn from the drawing board.

If this coup d'état is allowed to stand there will be no more honest elections--or opposition to whatever agenda the Party has in store, Constitution and all Ten Bill of Rights be damned--without a full-scale Revolution. In my sober estimation that is simply the reality we are facing.

Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, I truly believe those currently holding the Keys to the Kingdom also understand this and are prepared to do whatever is necessary to defend the Republic from this illegal takeover.

[BoR]

Posted by Satori (here)
What if, and this is, as Joseph Farrell says, “high octane speculation”, but what if:

The program is to let the 2020 [s]election go by and let Biden be anointed, then over the next 4 years certain members of the public and Congress, supported by the SCOTUS as the cases arise, oppose Biden and his handlers’ plots, programs and policies (holding these at bay); all the while gathering evidence for various purposes and, importantly, reforming election laws nationwide, thereby better ensuring (not guarantying) honest elections in 2022, 2024, and thereafter?

The result? The USA, at least, suffers through the next 4 years or so, but during that time we, the people, get our act together and clean house.

For what it’s worth....

There is no time for that. My argument: look at what is here, and what is coming. No way we/they have time for that.

[T Smith]

Posted by Satori (here)

Dismissing a case for lack of standing is the number one way, bar all other ways, to get rid of a case when a judge (or judges or “justices”) does not want to take it, for whatever reason. The true reason never being disclosed.

Interesting study on the doctrine of standing and an overview on the "insulation thesis," the idea being 20th-century liberal justices specifically invented the standing doctrine to insulate administrative agencies of government from judicial review.

My hope is this doctrine has not expanded from insulating questionable progressive legislation the court could technically deem unconstitutional to now include fraudulent, criminal, and conspiratorial crimes waged by these very administrative agencies. Standing doctrine aside, We the People have to insist the Deep State and our government is not above the law.

Of course the court may already have cases on its docket that will resolve the issue, as you have suggested (and I believe it does and/or has some in the pipe line), so their ruling here may be a matter of housekeeping.

It will be interesting to see if SCOTUS hears those cases on merit and how it might respond to the very same suit filed by POTUS, who does have standing, or at the very least has legal position the court would be hard pressed to rule against on grounds of the standing doctrine.

I guess we are all discovering in real time exactly to what degree all our branches of our government are compromised....

[Satori]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Satori (here)
What if, and this is, as Joseph Farrell says, “high octane speculation”, but what if:

The program is to let the 2020 [s]election go by and let Biden be anointed, then over the next 4 years certain members of the public and Congress, supported by the SCOTUS as the cases arise, oppose Biden and his handlers’ plots, programs and policies (holding these at bay); all the while gathering evidence for various purposes and, importantly, reforming election laws nationwide, thereby better ensuring (not guarantying) honest elections in 2022, 2024, and thereafter?

The result? The USA, at least, suffers through the next 4 years or so, but during that time we, the people, get our act together and clean house.

For what it’s worth....

To be fair I didn't listen to Farrell's presentation, but given your summation of it, I personally think that's a lot of nonsense.

First, if our feckless and spineless representatives and judiciaries don't have the stones or ideological constitution to oppose the fraudulent and criminal agenda of anointing Manchurian Biden to the throne before he's even in power, what makes them all grow a set after he and his cronies of Deep State criminals have the keys to the Kingdom? That sounds like a whole lot of "awe-shucks-we'll-get-'em-next-time" hopium to me.

Second, if there is no resolve by January 5 on this issue with some degree of justice served, both run-off elections in Georgia will tilt the Senate blue, effectively rendering the USSA into a one-party vassal of the NWO/CCP. Any pushback from SCOTUS (if any) will simply be met with stacking the court to align with the one-party agenda. In fact, I would expect this to happen immediately to assure the pushback Farrell describes never has a chance to spawn from the drawing board.

If this coup d'état is allowed to stand there will be no more honest elections--or opposition to whatever agenda the Party has in store, Constitution and all Ten Bill of Rights be damned--without a full-scale Revolution. In my sober estimation that is simply the reality we are facing.

Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, I truly believe those currently holding the Keys to the Kingdom also understand this and are prepared to do whatever is necessary to defend the Republic from this illegal takeover.

My apologizes, I did not mean to imply that Farrell came up with this speculation. Actually, that was something I pulled out of thin air. I called it “high octane speculation”, but attributed that quote to Farrell.

My speculation had a view towards the long term, not the short term.

[Gracy]

Posted by T Smith (here)
To be fair I didn't listen to Farrell's presentation, but given your summation of it, I personally think that's a lot of nonsense.

First, if our feckless and spineless representatives and judiciaries don't have the stones or ideological constitution to oppose the fraudulent and criminal agenda of anointing Manchurian Biden to the throne before he's even in power, what makes them all grow a set after he and his cronies of Deep State criminals have the keys to the Kingdom? That sounds like a whole lot of "awe-shucks-we'll-get-'em-next-time" hopium to me.

I agree, but from a different perspective. I've seen well enough of this pattern over the years with predictions. When the date comes and goes (in this case Trump is still gonna be President, in another case mass arrests are imminent, etc.), start kicking that tired old can down the road again:

"It was never actually supposed to go down that way at all, that was just a head fake, what they're really gonna do is xyz! Just you wait and see, there's panic in DC. They walked right into the trap, just a matter of when to spring it as can't afford to have any escape. Should be over and done with by '23 or '24, and we'll all be breathing a lot easier."

So yeah, been there done that. No patience for it any more.

Posted by T Smith (here)
Second, if there is no resolve by January 5 on this issue with some degree of justice served, both run-off elections in Georgia will tilt the Senate blue, effectively rendering the USSA into a one-party vassal of the NWO/CCP.

Well first off, I'd be real surprised if both republicans didn't win that. But we shall see.

Anyway, we're not gonna be a one party vassal of China, this is nothing but starting a new "Russia Gate" kind of thing. For 4 years we had nonstop "Russia Russia Russia!" hysteria, now we're embarking on "China China China!" hysteria. Here we go loopty loo, Here we go loopty li. Again.

Me sees yet another pattern developing here...

All we're gonna see is the same old crowd of corporate neo liberals back in charge again: keeping the skids of the war machine greased, doing the bidding of Wall Street, big corporations, major donors, etc. Not that much different from their republican counterparts. And speaking of which, this describes Joe Biden as well. He's nothing of the kind a radical leftist/socialist, he's much closer to a good old fashioned moderate republican. His long record in the senate speaks for itself. Establishment through and through.

Nothing is going to fundamentally change, now there's a prediction you can pretty much take to the bank. I hope someone saves that line as a future "gotcha", because bout the only thing that could avert nothing fundamentally changing, would be if things get bat s##t crazy and the guillotines are rolled out. All bets are of course off at that point.

Barring that, the rich will keep on getting richer, the poor will keep on getting poorer, all elite hungry mouths will stay well fed, and the wheels of empire will keep grinding along as usual. Just as they are right now as we speak. They're just hard to see through all the smoke, mirrors, and bright shiny objects.

[samildamach]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)
To be fair I didn't listen to Farrell's presentation, but given your summation of it, I personally think that's a lot of nonsense.

First, if our feckless and spineless representatives and judiciaries don't have the stones or ideological constitution to oppose the fraudulent and criminal agenda of anointing Manchurian Biden to the throne before he's even in power, what makes them all grow a set after he and his cronies of Deep State criminals have the keys to the Kingdom? That sounds like a whole lot of "awe-shucks-we'll-get-'em-next-time" hopium to me.

I agree, but from a different perspective. I've seen well enough of this pattern over the years with predictions. When the date comes and goes (in this case Trump is still gonna be President, in another case mass arrests are imminent, etc.), start kicking that tired old can down the road again:

"It was never actually supposed to go down that way at all, that was just a head fake, what they're really gonna do is xyz! Just you wait and see, there's panic in DC. They walked right into the trap, just a matter of when to spring it as can't afford to have any escape. Should be over and done with by '23 or '24, and we'll all be breathing a lot easier."

So yeah, been there done that. No patience for it any more.

Posted by T Smith (here)
Second, if there is no resolve by January 5 on this issue with some degree of justice served, both run-off elections in Georgia will tilt the Senate blue, effectively rendering the USSA into a one-party vassal of the NWO/CCP.

Well first off, I'd be real surprised if both republicans didn't win that. But we shall see.

Anyway, we're not gonna be a one party vassal of China, this is nothing but starting a new "Russia Gate" kind of thing. For 4 years we had nonstop "Russia Russia Russia!" hysteria, now we're embarking on "China China China!" hysteria. Here we go loopty loo, Here we go loopty li. Again.

Me sees yet another pattern developing here...

All we're gonna see is the same old crowd of corporate neo liberals back in charge again: keeping the skids of the war machine greased, doing the bidding of Wall Street, big corporations, major donors, etc. Not that much different from their republican counterparts. And speaking of which, this describes Joe Biden as well. He's nothing of the kind a radical leftist/socialist, he's much closer to a good old fashioned moderate republican. His long record in the senate speaks for itself. Establishment through and through.

Nothing is going to fundamentally change, now there's a prediction you can pretty much take to the bank. I hope someone saves that line as a future "gotcha", because bout the only thing that could avert nothing fundamentally changing, would be if things get bat s##t crazy and the guillotines are rolled out. All bets are of course off at that point.

Barring that, the rich will keep on getting richer, the poor will keep on getting poorer, all elite hungry mouths will stay well fed, and the wheels of empire will keep grinding along as usual. Just as they are right now as we speak. They're just hard to see through all the smoke, mirrors, and bright shiny objects.

The cold war never ended.the petro dollar is coming to its end and all the players are vying for supremacy as the new empire.russia russia or China China is very apt when your own alphabet agencies and politicians become compromised , who is left .
My view is that China almost won without firing a single bullet,there timing was rushed because America really is the only country which can stop there assention and Trump is the key to galvanise the people and open there eyes.biden is a symptom not the threat.as for trump
He is not all we hoped for but he is all we have got

[Satori]

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Satori (here)
What if, and this is, as Joseph Farrell says, “high octane speculation”, but what if:

The program is to let the 2020 [s]election go by and let Biden be anointed, then over the next 4 years certain members of the public and Congress, supported by the SCOTUS as the cases arise, oppose Biden and his handlers’ plots, programs and policies (holding these at bay); all the while gathering evidence for various purposes and, importantly, reforming election laws nationwide, thereby better ensuring (not guarantying) honest elections in 2022, 2024, and thereafter?

The result? The USA, at least, suffers through the next 4 years or so, but during that time we, the people, get our act together and clean house.

For what it’s worth....

To be fair I didn't listen to Farrell's presentation, but given your summation of it, I personally think that's a lot of nonsense.

First, if our feckless and spineless representatives and judiciaries don't have the stones or ideological constitution to oppose the fraudulent and criminal agenda of anointing Manchurian Biden to the throne before he's even in power, what makes them all grow a set after he and his cronies of Deep State criminals have the keys to the Kingdom? That sounds like a whole lot of "awe-shucks-we'll-get-'em-next-time" hopium to me.

Second, if there is no resolve by January 5 on this issue with some degree of justice served, both run-off elections in Georgia will tilt the Senate blue, effectively rendering the USSA into a one-party vassal of the NWO/CCP. Any pushback from SCOTUS (if any) will simply be met with stacking the court to align with the one-party agenda. In fact, I would expect this to happen immediately to assure the pushback Farrell describes never has a chance to spawn from the drawing board.

If this coup d'état is allowed to stand there will be no more honest elections--or opposition to whatever agenda the Party has in store, Constitution and all Ten Bill of Rights be damned--without a full-scale Revolution. In my sober estimation that is simply the reality we are facing.

Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, I truly believe those currently holding the Keys to the Kingdom also understand this and are prepared to do whatever is necessary to defend the Republic from this illegal takeover.

My apologizes, I did not mean to imply that Farrell came up with this speculation. Actually, that was something I pulled out of thin air. I called it “high octane speculation”, but attributed that quote to Farrell.

My speculation had a view towards the long term, not the short term.

If I may say so, I think the first video in post #1149 above lends some support to my speculation.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update on Trumps Facebook...

So, you’re the President of the United States, and you just went through an election where you got more votes than any sitting President in history, by far - and purportedly lost. You can’t get “standing” before the Supreme Court, so you “intervene” with wonderful states that, after careful study and consideration, think you got “screwed”, something which will hurt them also. Many others likewise join the suit but, within a flash, it is thrown out and gone, without even looking at the many reasons it was brought. A Rigged Election, fight on!

Viking