MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

[Gracy]

If Trump will not act, the people likely will

It’s becoming crystal clear: If Trump will not act, and if Congress will not defend the republic, then We the People will likely move toward action very quickly after January 6th and start fighting to save the republic using the rights and duties described in the Second Amendment, which was written to allow the People to defeat tyranny.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-...eak-loose.html

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I was glad to see Mike Adams bring this up, as it goes to a question I've been chewing on lately. So far, anyone in authority who sees matters differently than Team Trump, is automatically labeled traitorous. The judiciary, senate, congress are all traitors, and if (ever loyal to the bone) Mike Pence doesn't come through on Jan. 6, then he's a traitor too.

See where I'm going with this? So if Trump himself decides to just glide off into the sunset and start his own news network or whatever, does that make him a traitor as well? Or does he get a pass from the firing squad because he's the OG of the whole thing...

Then again, nobody was safe from the guillotine in the French Revolution, not even the architect of the "Reign of Terror" Maximilien Robespierre himself.

Posted by Jayke (here)
The revolution is already fomenting. It has nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with the theft of freedom.

Okay, so for the sake of argument let's agree that even though virtually every bit of outside news and/or commentary posted on this forum is hard right wing sourced, with the left being blamed for virtually all evil under the sun, it's really not about that.

In a certain respect that is rapidly becoming the case, as even hard core righties' heads are now on the chopping block if they dare not side with Team Trump.

Posted by Jayke (here)
Regardless of the outcome of the election, if people keep getting backed into a corner, the political class and judiciary will only have themselves to blame once the lynch mobs show up at their homes of residence with guillotines in tow.

So back to my question: Trump now being part of the political class, does he need to be worried about the portable guillotines heading his way, should he himself become a traitor by voluntarily leaving office and not fighting on for Team Trump?

In other words is it beyond him now, to where even he, like his VP, becomes expendable just like Robespierre, should he at any time fall out of favor amidst the blood lust of the movement?

[samildamach]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

If Trump will not act, the people likely will

It’s becoming crystal clear: If Trump will not act, and if Congress will not defend the republic, then We the People will likely move toward action very quickly after January 6th and start fighting to save the republic using the rights and duties described in the Second Amendment, which was written to allow the People to defeat tyranny.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-...eak-loose.html

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I was glad to see Mike Adams bring this up, as it goes to a question I've been chewing on lately. So far, anyone in authority who sees matters differently than Team Trump, is automatically labeled traitorous. The judiciary, senate, congress are all traitors, and if (ever loyal to the bone) Mike Pence doesn't come through on Jan. 6, then he's a traitor too.

See where I'm going with this? So if Trump himself decides to just glide off into the sunset and start his own news network or whatever, does that make him a traitor as well? Or does he get a pass from the firing squad because he's the OG of the whole thing...

Then again, nobody was safe from the guillotine in the French Revolution, not even the architect of the "Reign of Terror" Maximilien Robespierre himself.

Posted by Jayke (here)
The revolution is already fomenting. It has nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with the theft of freedom.

Okay, so for the sake of argument let's agree that even though virtually every bit of outside news and/or commentary posted on this forum is hard right wing sourced, with the left being blamed for virtually all evil under the sun, it's really not about that.

In a certain respect that is rapidly becoming the case, as even hard core righties' heads are now on the chopping block if they dare not side with Team Trump.

Posted by Jayke (here)
Regardless of the outcome of the election, if people keep getting backed into a corner, the political class and judiciary will only have themselves to blame once the lynch mobs show up at their homes of residence with guillotines in tow.

So back to my question: Trump now being part of the political class, does he need to be worried about the portable guillotines heading his way, should he himself become a traitor by voluntarily leaving office and not fighting on for Team Trump?

In other words is it beyond him now, to where even he, like his VP, becomes expendable just like Robespierre, should he at any time fall out of favor amidst the blood lust of the movement?

Traitor can and should only be defined by law. Or you yourself could easily be considered a traitor for speaking out against trump,glad you live in a democracy were your freedom of speech is protected.in a communist state they would already be at your door, this is worth fighting for.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update from Simon Parkes...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BLMppX-Ag94

Viking

[greybeard]

I think its a bit like the duck paddling on the pond.
Not much activity to be seen but a lot going on below the surface.
Just a question of wait and see.
Chris

[Gracy]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
So back to my question: Trump now being part of the political class, does he need to be worried about the portable guillotines heading his way, should he himself become a traitor by voluntarily leaving office and not fighting on for Team Trump?

In other words is it beyond him now, to where even he, like his VP, becomes expendable just like Robespierre, should he at any time fall out of favor amidst the blood lust of the movement?

Posted by samildamach (here)
Traitor can and should only be defined by law. Or you yourself could easily be considered a traitor for speaking out against trump,glad you live in a democracy were your freedom of speech is protected.

That's already happening, what are you talking about?

I see people being labeled "traitor" and "treasonous" here on a daily basis like it's no more than the weather report, that's my point. One doesn't even have to speak out against, just not going along with Team Trump is all it takes now to earn those labels.

Thus my hot potato question...

[T Smith]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

I was glad to see Mike Adams bring this up, as it goes to a question I've been chewing on lately. So far, anyone in authority who sees matters differently than Team Trump, is automatically labeled traitorous. The judiciary, senate, congress are all traitors, and if (ever loyal to the bone) Mike Pence doesn't come through on Jan. 6, then he's a traitor too.

See where I'm going with this? So if Trump himself decides to just glide off into the sunset and start his own news network or whatever, does that make him a traitor as well? Or does he get a pass from the firing squad because he's the OG of the whole thing...

Then again, nobody was safe from the guillotine in the French Revolution, not even the architect of the "Reign of Terror" Maximilien Robespierre himself.

Mike Adams tends to be very black and white about these things. He has already called the Supreme Court Justices who have refused to adjudicate the disputed State elections traitors, along with Mike Pence for not exercising his Constitutional authority to reject unlawful electors by the fourth Wednesday of December.

I reserve judgement and am not so quick to condemn either SCOTUS or Pence--yet. If the Biden/Harris won the election with legitimate votes, SCOTUS (or Pence) could easily resolve that question. In my view calling them traitors is premature at this juncture just because they have thus far chose not to exercise their duties according to Mike Adam's timeline.

However, this isn't difficult or complex. The issue is the corrupted power-centers behind Biden/Harris are claiming a victory for their candidate, essentially by fiat and outside the rule of law (and whose corrupted interests just so happen to align with their candidate's policies) and are blocking any and all challenges to that claim from being heard. This is the definition of Tyranny. At the moment that includes both SCOTUS and Pence and their respective branches of government, hence Adam's wrath.

However, this should hardly be surprising. Where there is lawlessness, where corrupted power-centers leverage power to rule by fiat, where there is taxation without representation, this is how cornered people are going to behave. Are any of us honesty surprised by Mike Adam's rhetoric? Are we honestly expecting cooler heads and peace given the blatant disregard for the rule of law? This isn't about a "difference of policy" or "difference of opinion". This is an issue of Rule by Law v. Rule by Men. And whether the intent of your comments are to ring the alarm bells to Mike Adam's erratic call to arms or to simply report on the gravity of the situation as you see it, the parallels you draw between present day America and late 18th-century France are not hyperbolic, imo. This is very real, and very dangerous.

I would make one final observation. Perhaps the main reason this alarms so many people who condemn the passion of Mike Adams' rhetoric is the very way they continuously insist on dishonestly framing the conflict, i.e. "Team Trump" v "Team Other, Who See Things Differently."

This, by itself, is the same type of mind-control manipulation employed by social engineers to fashion understanding, often to render their subjects to submit to their controller's designs. It is an associative psyop designed to polarize by assigning subtle--perhaps even subliminal--pejoratives and desirables to the poles, depending on conditioned suggestions, e.g., "if you don't go along with Obama and his policies you are a racist," etc.

To wit:

It is much easier to be reject "Team-Trump", when we are framing "Team-Trump" as radical right-right fanatics branding all who disagree with them as "traitors", than it is when we frame the conflict honestly. Perhaps henceforth on we should dub this as "Team Constitution" v "Team Anti-Constitution" to better understand why (and not be so alarmed) when people like Mike Adams calls anyone who chooses "Team Anti-Constitution" traitors. I would suggest it is much easier to be "Anti-Trump" than it is to be "Anti-Constitution," but at the end of the day, if one is Anti-Constitution, that's okay (many are). Let's just frame it honestly so we can have an honest debate about the dynamic afoot and an accurate understanding of the tensions at hand instead of weaponizing the CIA-instilled-construct of "Trump" as a mind-control technique to sway hearts and minds.

I do believe Mike Adams is a little quick on the draw to start throwing people into the Team Anti-Constitution camp; on this we are in agreement.

However, at the end of the day, this really isn't a grey area--this is a black and white issue. I don't find it overly alarming to hear people whose overt actions against the U.S. Constitution are called "traitors" by those in the "Team Constitution" camp.

[greybeard]

The use of strong words like traitor are not really being promoted by members here.
Text and videos are being posted which do contain strong assertions.

Overwhelmingly the members are promoting freedom of choice which certainly seems to be threatened by the evidence of voter fraud.
This is not down to democrats, and should not be put on them en-mass.
I would think that the majority of Americans want free, honest elections.
I dont think thats what happened this time.

Chris

[greybeard]

Dont think sites like Avalon could be called right wing -- if anything veering to the left of centre.
Chris

[Gracy]

Posted by T Smith (here)
It is much easier to be reject "Team-Trump", when we are framing "Team-Trump" as radical right-right fanatics branding all who disagree with them as "traitors", than it is when we frame the conflict honestly. Perhaps henceforth on we should dub this as "Team Constitution" v "Team Anti-Constitution" to better understand why (and not be so alarmed) when people like Mike Adams calls anyone who chooses "Team Anti-Constitution" traitors.

Very well then T Smith. I don't think I'm framing this dishonestly, but we can certainly once again politely agree to disagree.

What I'm reading here is that from now on when I see oft posted media personalities such as Steve Bannon, Mike Adams, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Howie Carr, Steven Crowder, Dan Bongino, Newt Gingrich, Lin Wood, Rudy Giulliani; and outlets such as OAN, Newsmax, FOX NEWS, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Black Conservative Patriot, Gateway Pundit, and Steve Turley, I should be thinking "Team Constitution", not "Team Trump".

I'm supposed to blank my mind to the very obvious fact that all of them (and many more) are hard right wing, and come at events from a hard right wing point of view, as in decimate the left, fight to the death sort of thing...

I'm not seeing a bunch of pure libertarians there. What am I missing in this picture?

Posted by samildamach (here)
I've not seen one person call you a traitor here!

Never said that, please reread carefully with less emotion.

Posted by samildamach (here)
I've not seen anybody else being labelled a traitor here!

I'll list them if you care, but maybe a new thread would be more appropriate, even though the lawsuit thing is pretty slow at the moment. But it's easily done.

Posted by samildamach (here)
Comes across as hostile hey ho.ill not engage you any more your just looking to fight.

It comes across as hostile because my POV is so far removed from general sentiment, and emotions are running high. Disagreement and/or seriously questioning current events, does not equal attack or looking for a fight.

Look no further than how T Smith and I are able to politely agree to disagree, and yet forward the conversation at the same time.

It's all good, this is a discussion forum.

[samildamach]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Posted by Gracy May (here)
So back to my question: Trump now being part of the political class, does he need to be worried about the portable guillotines heading his way, should he himself become a traitor by voluntarily leaving office and not fighting on for Team Trump?

In other words is it beyond him now, to where even he, like his VP, becomes expendable just like Robespierre, should he at any time fall out of favor amidst the blood lust of the movement?

Posted by samildamach (here)
Traitor can and should only be defined by law. Or you yourself could easily be considered a traitor for speaking out against trump,glad you live in a democracy were your freedom of speech is protected.

That's already happening, what are you talking about?

I see people being labeled "traitor" and "treasonous" here on a daily basis like it's no more than the weather report, that's my point. One doesn't even have to speak out against, just not going along with Team Trump is all it takes now to earn those labels.

Thus my hot potato question...

I've not seen one person call you a traitor here!
I've not seen anybody else being labelled a traitor here!
Iam not going to stand by and not defend your right to an opposite view point.
What's are you talking about?
Comes across as hostile hey ho.ill not engage you any more your just looking to fight.
Edit:your quoting from a post before its been made,it makes n OK sence in this order.
How do you put a moderator on ignore .ive asked you not to fight yet you carry on.please as I can't block or ignore you stop.

[OmeyocaN777]

UKRAINE RELEASES BOMBSHELL INFORMATION ON BIDEN TODAY! MIRROR THIS ASAP

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKDXVo-OKeQ

(some say in the comments that this is an old video '3-6 months ago'...anyway it's important...)

[TargeT]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Dont think sites like Avalon could be called right wing -- if anything veering to the left of centre.
Chris

left center for sure, there's a very subtle (deserved) anti "republican" sentiment held by the majority of posters here, though (also rightly so) there is little tolerance for the "far left" as well.... seems a bit more "left" than the majority of the US, but so close to center that it doesn't really matter.

our differences generally are far less than our similarities.

[T Smith]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Very well then T Smith. I don't think I'm framing this dishonestly, but we can certainly once again politely agree to disagree.

What I'm reading here is that from now on when I see oft posted media personalities such as Steve Bannon, Mike Adams, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Howie Carr, Steven Crowder, Dan Bongino, Newt Gingrich, Lin Wood, Rudy Giulliani; and outlets such as OAN, Newsmax, FOX NEWS, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Black Conservative Patriot, Gateway Pundit, and Steve Turley, I should be thinking "Team Constitution", not "Team Trump".

I'm supposed to blank my mind to the very obvious fact that all of them (and many more) are hard right wing, and come at events from a hard right wing point of view, as in decimate the left, fight to the death sort of thing...

I'm not seeing a bunch of pure libertarians there. What am I missing in this picture?

The issue is, as I see it, the goal post has moved so far to the left it is much too easy to view any commentators who cry foul--or much of the remaining political spectrum for that matter--as anything but hard right. Any defense of the Constitutional Republic is branded "conservative", by definition, as this particular discourse focuses on conserving the very Republic and its Bill of Rights against Bolshevik-like Revolutionaries who openly advocate for transforming society, dismantling the Constitution, weaponizing a bioweapon to facilitate a diabolically leftist political agenda, and in short, abdicating the Peoples' sovereign government to the Great Reset global-governance framework. And yes, even libertarian observers--hardly pro-Trump cheerleaders--are advancing the same argument.

It used to be our political spectrum largely expressed itself under the umbrella of the U.S. Constitution. No longer. The left is now Anti-American, as far as I can tell, dragging many people in the center and even left of center into a illusionary or "perceived" right. And I don't mean Anti-American as the Anti-the-imperial-shenanigans-of-America's-Deep-State-government. I mean Anti-American, as in the principals our country was founded on.

[Eric J (Viking)]

RICK WILES: "MR. BIDEN WILL NOT BE SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT. HE WILL BE ARRESTED."
WATCH

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zaj0ABr0EJI8/

Viking

[greybeard]

Statement from the President

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...sident-122720/

Budget & Spending

Issued on: December 27, 2020
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As President of the United States it is my responsibility to protect the people of our country from the economic devastation and hardship that was caused by the China Virus.

I understand that many small businesses have been forced to close as a result of harsh actions by Democrat-run states. Many people are back to work, but my job is not done until everyone is back to work.

Fortunately, as a result of my work with Congress in passing the CARES Act earlier this year, we avoided another Great Depression. Under my leadership, Project Warp Speed has been a tremendous success, my Administration and I developed a vaccine many years ahead of wildest expectations, and we are distributing these vaccines, and others soon coming, to millions of people.

As President, I have told Congress that I want far less wasteful spending and more money going to the American people in the form of $2,000 checks per adult and $600 per child.

As President I am demanding many rescissions under the Impoundment Control Act of 1974. The Act provides that, “whenever the President determines that all or part of any budget authority will not be required to carry out the full objectives or scope of programs for which it is provided, or that such budget authority should be rescinded for fiscal policy or other reasons (including termination of authorized projects or activities for which budget authority has been provided), the President shall transmit to both Houses of Congress a special message” describing the amount to be reserved, the relevant accounts, the reasons for the rescission, and the economic effects of the rescission. 2 U.S.C. § 683.

I will sign the Omnibus and Covid package with a strong message that makes clear to Congress that wasteful items need to be removed. I will send back to Congress a redlined version, item by item, accompanied by the formal rescission request to Congress insisting that those funds be removed from the bill.

I am signing this bill to restore unemployment benefits, stop evictions, provide rental assistance, add money for PPP, return our airline workers back to work, add substantially more money for vaccine distribution, and much more.

On Monday the House will vote to increase payments to individuals from $600 to $2,000. Therefore, a family of four would receive $5,200. Additionally, Congress has promised that Section 230, which so unfairly benefits Big Tech at the expense of the American people, will be reviewed and either be terminated or substantially reformed.

Likewise, the House and Senate have agreed to focus strongly on the very substantial voter fraud which took place in the November 3 Presidential election.

The Senate will start the process for a vote that increases checks to $2,000, repeals Section 230, and starts an investigation into voter fraud.

Big Tech must not get protections of Section 230!

Voter Fraud must be fixed!

Much more money is coming. I will never give up my fight for the American people!

[mountain_jim]

https://social.quodverum.com/@REX/

REX @REX@social.quodverum.com



REX @REX@social.quodverum.com
2. Most people assume that the GOP v Democrat 'opposition' is real.

It is NOT.

We like to assume that power is split in America on authentic political and ideological lines.

Sure, there are genuine ideologues - say AOC & the Squad.

They are irrelevant, when it comes to the center of power in the Congress.

The GOP v Democrat 'opposition' is a fantasy. A fabrication.

3. There is only the Uniparty.

A corrupt bloc of treasonous, corrupt vested interests, working together to gain more power and above all, MONEY.

The 'Dem v GOP' contest is a mirage, just one trick these crooks use to hoodwink the public that two sides exist. While they fleece the nation.

It is in the UniParty's interests to get rid of Trump. Just as it in their interests to get rid of AOC & the Squad.

Trump is an EXISTENTIAL threat to their criminal enterprise.

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REX @REX@social.quodverum.com
7. Which brings us to the present crisis.

If it was just a domestic criminal operation, things would be simpler for Trump.

However, as we know the UniParty have been thoroughly owned by the CCP. The UniParty is effectively a virus within the American Republic, controlled by Beijing.

And all agencies of government have been put into service of the UniParty.

Who just stole the American election.

It's an international crisis - incredibly dangerous.

8. If January 6 is the plan, POTUS Trump knows full well that he cannot rely on calls for RINO patriotism in Congress, to save the Republic.

It will have to be done through public exposure, extreme behind the scenes pressure on the likes of McConnell and RINOs & just my opinion, the announcement of indictments.

Most are corrupt scum, but they are rational. They will do anything they need to, in order to save their skin.

Thus far, they figure they have Trump cornered.

BIG MISTAKE.

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9. But back to my main point.

It's really important that you understand this fight as MAGA v UniParty.

NOT Dem v GOP.

UniParty - establishment 'Democrats' & GOP 'RINOs'. Plus their apparatchiks, FakeNews. And any remnants in the DOJ, FBI & CIA (among others).

And behind much of the mess, Xi & his thugs.

Try to understand the fight that way.

[Arcturian108]

Posted by OmeyocaN777 (here)
UKRAINE RELEASES BOMBSHELL INFORMATION ON BIDEN TODAY! MIRROR THIS ASAP

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKDXVo-OKeQ

(some say in the comments that this is an old video '3-6 months ago'...anyway it's important...)

I just watched half of this video, and since it's all in Ukrainian, I speeded it up a bit. At around the 24-minute mark, we start to hear telephone conversations between Joe Biden and Poroshenko which sound important to me as proof of his direct involvement in the corruption of the previous Ukrainian administration.

[greybeard]

GREENAudioX #2363EpF

Covers a lot in a concise logical way.
Reasons why and the counter measures in place.
Well worth listening to.
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=08Nj9aij8zw

[OmeyocaN777]

Kanekoa
@KanekoaTheGreat

Andrii Derkach has been investigating this international web of money laundering involving the former President of Ukraine, the Biden family, & Burisma Holdings for over a year now. Here is one of the original documents that he shared in Nov. of 2019.

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/...96418104115202

https://archive.md/zFaXO

[pyrangello]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn2xgSmwDJ8
Dr Corsi SPECIAL BROADCAST 12-27-20: The Rise of the MAGA Party

If you have never heard Corsi before , he always has a philosophical take on whats happening in real time. He also throws in history to support his opinions. Its an hour long narrative but once you start watching , Corsi will captivate your attention. All in a good way .