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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.
    The 'covax' is new and highly experimental technology. It's been around for 5 minutes so to speak, not more than a century.

    It has not enhanced my uncle's immune system. The absolute opposite was the case. It lowered his immune system to the point where it almost killed him with a life threatening case of shingles which he is still recovering from many months later.

    My uncle's experience was also shared in his community by many others. Numbers described to my uncle by his doctors and nurses as an all time high 'inundation'.

    They were in better health than he, yet all got bad cases of shingles as their immune systems were interfered with, compromised and effectively lowered.

    It is also noteworthy that the news of this 'inundation' (the specific words of doctors and nurses) was never reported in the local or wider media. It was left to the people of the community to compare notes and make their own minds up.

    They quickly reached a unanimous decision together. "We were all fine until we took the vax. There's no way were are going to take another one."
    "A rising tide lifts all boats." Greybeard.

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    It's no secret these mRNA vaccinations are radically different to traditional vaccines, like the original smallpox vaccine. Even with traditional vaccines, it's the manufacturing process that causes tragedy despite science being tried and tested. Manufacturing is vulnerable in an emergency.

    It's generous calling mRNA vaccinations 'vaccines' because they work in such a different way they bear no resemblance to the vaccines used in the previous 200 years. I always wondered why they share the same name because the mRNA vaccine sounds more like an inoculation

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    The 'covax' is new and highly experimental technology. It's been around for 5 minutes so to speak
    I just paused after reading my own words. And I felt like they slapped me senseless across my own face.

    This tech has been around for 5 minutes, so to speak. Yet virtually everyone in the world is supposed to be regularly and continuously pumped full of it for the forseeable future, including children and even babies.

    This is utter madness.

    A few devils playing God to all of us. A few lunatics thinking they can fool and outsmart Mother Nature. A few quackademics claiming they can perfectly mimic the messages, functions and purposes of our entire physical organism and plenty more besides.

    Utter madness.
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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    It's no secret these mRNA vaccinations are radically different to traditional vaccines, like the original smallpox vaccine. Even with traditional vaccines, it's the manufacturing process that causes tragedy despite science being tried and tested. Manufacturing is vulnerable in an emergency.

    It's generous calling mRNA vaccinations 'vaccines' because they work in such a different way they bear no resemblance to the vaccines used in the previous 200 years. I always wondered why they share the same name because the mRNA vaccine sounds more like an inoculation
    It's harrowing that people don't realise the mRNA vaccines are different to the last 200 years. Even clever people are fooled which doesn't make sense because the difference was never a secret, actually the differences have been celebrated, so why and how do people still get this wrong???

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    It's no secret these mRNA vaccinations are radically different to traditional vaccines, like the original smallpox vaccine. Even with traditional vaccines, it's the manufacturing process that causes tragedy despite science being tried and tested. Manufacturing is vulnerable in an emergency.

    It's generous calling mRNA vaccinations 'vaccines' because they work in such a different way they bear no resemblance to the vaccines used in the previous 200 years. I always wondered why they share the same name because the mRNA vaccine sounds more like an inoculation
    It's harrowing that people don't realise the mRNA vaccines are different to the last 200 years. Even clever people are fooled which doesn't make sense because the difference was never a secret, actually the differences have been celebrated, so why and how do people still get this wrong???
    two things "faith in the higher authorities" and "ignorance". When I saw the word mRNA I googled its meaning. 99.9% of people will simply ignore it.

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    ralfy quote: "Now, I have no idea why you are so obsessed with isolating yourself from mainstream media"

    You have a lot to learn using/project so so MANY false assumptions = typical troll/shill behavior.

    Almost nobody can be "isolated" by mainstream talking points as they come from all sides: Radio, TV, Magazines, Friends, Family sharing mainstream stuff over and over and over and over again. Not to mention the "WOKE" paranoia culture forced via more parts of society also pushed by MSM.

    Most Alternative Media have studied/analyzed Mainstream Media lies so many times you can NOT assume "we do not know Mainstream" ... when you used the label "obsession" kind a funny & hilarious & epic fail.
    Talk about contradicting yourself! First, you argue that I rely on mainstream media, and now you admit that no one can be isolated from them. What, then, is your point?

    My point was already explained in previous ... if you are not able to see it ... is not my problem and if you want to make it my problem is a choice.
    Here's what you first wrote:

    Quote If anyone tries to analyze/asses "logical motives" using mainstream media talking points perspectives (heavily guarded & controlled narratives) they LAUGH at you that you are so easily "convinced" you "solved" the riddle for them and us.
    After that, you wrote:

    Quote Almost nobody can be "isolated" by mainstream talking points as they come from all sides: Radio, TV, Magazines, Friends, Family sharing mainstream stuff over and over and over and over again. Not to mention the "WOKE" paranoia culture forced via more parts of society also pushed by MSM.
    After that,

    Quote Most Alternative Media have studied/analyzed Mainstream Media lies so many times you can NOT assume "we do not know Mainstream" ... when you used the label "obsession" kind a funny & hilarious & epic fail.
    Thus, with no one isolated from mainstream media, then all points come from them, including those that challenge them. In short, the claim that mainstream media is false comes from the same.

    So much for epic fails!

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    You mean vaccines, not "vaccine." There are several, and them of them use older technologies, like Sinovac.

    Of course, they are all being released under emergency authorization, but only for these vaccines and because of the current pandemic. How that has to do with a depopulation program needs to be explained.

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    The global economy is dominated by around 500 super-connected, multinational corporations, and their wealth grows through a combination of financial speculation and increasing sales of goods and services worldwide. They also control much of media and even pharma.

    Given that, depopulation obviously works against them, as that would mean lower economic activity: capitalism requires the opposite. If so, then what they want is probably manageable population increase, e.g., the use of vaccines and medicine to profit but also to minimize the effects of disease, thus making more people productive workers and happy consumers.
    Then why does Bill Gates advocate depopulation?
    Why would he do that? The bulk of his wealth is credit--more than $120 billion--and all that will be useless with no global economy and world population. And what about the large parcels of farm land that he bought in the U.S.? Will he be making robots that will make even more robots that will do everything that humans should do while he and his fellow elite relax and enjoy themselves?

    Depopulation makes no sense whatsoever to a global elite whose power lies essentially in credit.

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    Maybe because capitalism/wealth (fake or not)/etc is not their target at all but only the means to achieve their goals
    What are those goals? You can't answer, "to depopulate the earth," because that's the means towards those goals, right?
    Do huge farming and other business without world population to buy? that sounds like a dumb good strategy.
    I guess all the poisons out there for humans disproved depopulation.
    Now, you're getting my point! Gates promoting a depopulation plan makes no sense because (a) the bulk of his wealth is in the form of credit and (b) whatever assets he purchases can only be usable with a large population.

    That's why conspiracy theorists have to believe that the elite also developed robots, thus making not only workers/consumers but even capitalist systems irrelevant.

    Some can even argue that the elite themselves are irrelevant because extraterrestials have taken over.

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    Even so, "enhanced immune systems" have already been a double-edged sword which has resulted in a plethora of autoimmune symptoms, and thus more capital profit for big biz through a multitude of new "treatments" for these symptoms and expanded medical "systems". If you scan investment tips and info, autoimmune pharma recommendations are exploding, and the price of these new drugs are horrendously expensive.

    When will enough be enough?
    Autoimmune Disease List
    It's not so much enhance immunity that's involved as what Garrett reports are an estimated two million types of viruses, of which even with a fraction affecting human beings, more than enough to overwhelm them and other species eventually. And that does not include mutations.

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    Wrong! I'm amazed that anyone on this forum could possibly think that, unless they are a shill or troll.
    Quote Posted by ralfy (here)

    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.
    IMHO, when considering who is behind the depopulation agenda and why, if you stop at the global elite who are also pawns, you haven't gone far enough.
    The origin is off-world, and once you understand that, things fall into place much more logically.
    You know, when I mentioned extraterrestials in my earlier message, I hadn't read your post yet. My point is that when things get zany, anything becomes possible.

    Of course, one has to imagine that the same off-world beings are seeing their own world fall apart, which is why they want to take over this one, and that whatever advanced technologies they possessed which allowed them to travel long distances can't save them.

    Unless they're not really off-world? Maybe Elder Ones dormant for so long in underground cities, now coming to power using the elite in reptilian form? That sounds logical, too, right?

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.
    The 'covax' is new and highly experimental technology. It's been around for 5 minutes so to speak, not more than a century.

    It has not enhanced my uncle's immune system. The absolute opposite was the case. It lowered his immune system to the point where it almost killed him with a life threatening case of shingles which he is still recovering from many months later.

    My uncle's experience was also shared in his community by many others. Numbers described to my uncle by his doctors and nurses as an all time high 'inundation'.

    They were in better health than he, yet all got bad cases of shingles as their immune systems were interfered with, compromised and effectively lowered.

    It is also noteworthy that the news of this 'inundation' (the specific words of doctors and nurses) was never reported in the local or wider media. It was left to the people of the community to compare notes and make their own minds up.

    They quickly reached a unanimous decision together. "We were all fine until we took the vax. There's no way were are going to take another one."
    You mean new ways of making them? Vaccines have been around for more than a century.

    I don't know anything about your uncle. Should I, and is his case verifiable? Does he also represent the population of those who received vaccines across many decades?

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    It's no secret these mRNA vaccinations are radically different to traditional vaccines, like the original smallpox vaccine. Even with traditional vaccines, it's the manufacturing process that causes tragedy despite science being tried and tested. Manufacturing is vulnerable in an emergency.

    It's generous calling mRNA vaccinations 'vaccines' because they work in such a different way they bear no resemblance to the vaccines used in the previous 200 years. I always wondered why they share the same name because the mRNA vaccine sounds more like an inoculation
    Actually, they're vaccines, and the technology was first used around three decades ago, although it was developed in the 1960s.

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    It's not so much enhance immunity that's involved as what Garrett reports are an estimated two million types of viruses, of which even with a fraction affecting human beings, more than enough to overwhelm them and other species eventually. And that does not include mutations.
    Not sure who this Garrett is that you speak of, and from where this info is sourced.
    Is it Laurie Garrett?
    It sounds quite fear-inducing, as species have dealt with viruses and incorporated them in our bodies since ancient times.
    The Human Genome Is Full of Viruses
    Seems Nature has handled it to date...

    edit to add a little joke
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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    It's no secret these mRNA vaccinations are radically different to traditional vaccines, like the original smallpox vaccine. Even with traditional vaccines, it's the manufacturing process that causes tragedy despite science being tried and tested. Manufacturing is vulnerable in an emergency.

    It's generous calling mRNA vaccinations 'vaccines' because they work in such a different way they bear no resemblance to the vaccines used in the previous 200 years. I always wondered why they share the same name because the mRNA vaccine sounds more like an inoculation
    Actually, they're vaccines, and the technology was first used around three decades ago, although it was developed in the 1960s.
    Each to their own. mRNA vaccinations are totally different to the vaccinations we've used for the previous 200 years, and so mixing the two up is inaccurate in my opinion. I'm enjoying mine, enjoy yours!

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    You mean vaccines, not "vaccine." There are several, and them of them use older technologies, like Sinovac.

    Of course, they are all being released under emergency authorization, but only for these vaccines and because of the current pandemic. How that has to do with a depopulation program needs to be explained.

    Ok I will explain...

    In a nut shell...

    If the mRNA vaccines being touted at the moment are actually a biological weapon that over time destroys the immune system so people gradually weaken and die prematurely.... that could be part of a Depopulation Program...
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    Actually, they're vaccines, and the technology was first used around three decades ago, although it was developed in the 1960s.
    It is a matter of opinion to say that the shots containing mRNA are vaccines or not.

    I think of a vaccine that uses a weakened form of a natural pathogen to induce immunity to a virus or other pathogen.


    The mRNA shots are 100% synthetic pieces of nanotechnology that are meant to function in a similar way as vaccines.

    It is semantics yes, but I find using the word "vaccine" to describe a new biotechnology to be a bit manipulative as it implies there is nothing new about them.

    When you consider the fact that this is basically a tiny piece of hardware that is totally synthetic I have a hard time calling it a vaccine.

    Considering what we know about coronavirus and their propensity to eventually induce antibody dependent enhancement of infection the method of creating antibodies is irrelevant, as it is the antibodies created by our own bodies that so often backfire and aid every known coronavirus when a person is reinfected.

    From the studies I have read this is most common when the induced antibody levels are low, either soon after injection and again 6-10 months later, so we have likely not yet seen the worst of it.

    Look at India following the introduction of the vaccines to see that ADE is indeed an issue with SARS-COV-2, which no surprise consider every other coronavirus scientists have studies have also had this issue.

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    Raffy you seriously need to do some research with comments like
    Quote Gates promoting a depopulation plan makes no sense
    His family has a proven, comprehensive history in eugenics

    You are basing sense on your own perception of reality. I would hope you do not perceive reality like a eugenicist but if you want to understand what is going on you need to appreciate how they think.
    “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular.” (Carl Jung)

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    Quote Posted by ralfy (here)
    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.
    Let's puzzle this out. Vaccines are safe, proven so for 100 years. So if we call mRNA gene therapy a vaccine, then that makes it safe? Maybe if we write "vaccine" on a bullet, it could save rather than take lives? :-)

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    Vaccines are safe?

    Says who?

    Children who receive vaccines end up with WAY more health issues than unvaccinated children.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32537156/
    https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/12...cinated-peers/

    The polio vaccines of the 1960's infected hundreds of millions of people with the SV-40 virus, which also happens to be found in a large percentage of cancerous tumors to this day.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1027018131586612840

    These new vaccines however seem to be FAR more dangerous than any vaccines in the past, half of all deaths following vaccines reported to the CDC in the past 20 have occured in the past 4 months following covid-19 vaccines.

    4000 deaths in the past 4 months, and 8000 deaths reported in the past 20 years from ALL other vaccines combined.

    Vaccines have never been safe, from my research I would argue that while most doctors believe that they work and are needed, the real reason for vaccines has always been population control.

    Doctors are just misled to believe that they are good for us.

    I would also argue that the science supporting terrain theory makes more sense than to support germ theory.

    I have yet to find a single replicated study that has isolated any virus and experimentally showed that the virus causes any disease.

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    It's not so much enhance immunity that's involved as what Garrett reports are an estimated two million types of viruses, of which even with a fraction affecting human beings, more than enough to overwhelm them and other species eventually. And that does not include mutations.
    Not sure who this Garrett is that you speak of, and from where this info is sourced.
    Is it Laurie Garrett?
    It sounds quite fear-inducing, as species have dealt with viruses and incorporated them in our bodies since ancient times.
    The Human Genome Is Full of Viruses
    Seems Nature has handled it to date...

    edit to add a little joke
    A fraction of the viruses. Most are in the wild, and that does not include mutations.

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    It's no secret these mRNA vaccinations are radically different to traditional vaccines, like the original smallpox vaccine. Even with traditional vaccines, it's the manufacturing process that causes tragedy despite science being tried and tested. Manufacturing is vulnerable in an emergency.

    It's generous calling mRNA vaccinations 'vaccines' because they work in such a different way they bear no resemblance to the vaccines used in the previous 200 years. I always wondered why they share the same name because the mRNA vaccine sounds more like an inoculation
    Actually, they're vaccines, and the technology was first used around three decades ago, although it was developed in the 1960s.
    Each to their own. mRNA vaccinations are totally different to the vaccinations we've used for the previous 200 years, and so mixing the two up is inaccurate in my opinion. I'm enjoying mine, enjoy yours!
    The older technology cannot deal with variants readily.

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    You mean vaccines, not "vaccine." There are several, and them of them use older technologies, like Sinovac.

    Of course, they are all being released under emergency authorization, but only for these vaccines and because of the current pandemic. How that has to do with a depopulation program needs to be explained.

    Ok I will explain...

    In a nut shell...

    If the mRNA vaccines being touted at the moment are actually a biological weapon that over time destroys the immune system so people gradually weaken and die prematurely.... that could be part of a Depopulation Program...
    Which goes against what the elite want, as much of their wealth consists of credit whose value can only be maintained given increasing production and consumption of goods.

    That's why the only way a depopulation program theory can make sense is if the same elite has developed robots to replace laborers. Off-world puppet masters work, too.

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    Actually, they're vaccines, and the technology was first used around three decades ago, although it was developed in the 1960s.
    It is a matter of opinion to say that the shots containing mRNA are vaccines or not.

    I think of a vaccine that uses a weakened form of a natural pathogen to induce immunity to a virus or other pathogen.


    The mRNA shots are 100% synthetic pieces of nanotechnology that are meant to function in a similar way as vaccines.

    It is semantics yes, but I find using the word "vaccine" to describe a new biotechnology to be a bit manipulative as it implies there is nothing new about them.

    When you consider the fact that this is basically a tiny piece of hardware that is totally synthetic I have a hard time calling it a vaccine.

    Considering what we know about coronavirus and their propensity to eventually induce antibody dependent enhancement of infection the method of creating antibodies is irrelevant, as it is the antibodies created by our own bodies that so often backfire and aid every known coronavirus when a person is reinfected.

    From the studies I have read this is most common when the induced antibody levels are low, either soon after injection and again 6-10 months later, so we have likely not yet seen the worst of it.

    Look at India following the introduction of the vaccines to see that ADE is indeed an issue with SARS-COV-2, which no surprise consider every other coronavirus scientists have studies have also had this issue.
    If they function in the same way as vaccines, then they're vaccines.

    Which vaccines in India? Covishield and Covaxin? Aren't those viral vector?

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    Raffy you seriously need to do some research with comments like
    Quote Gates promoting a depopulation plan makes no sense
    His family has a proven, comprehensive history in eugenics

    You are basing sense on your own perception of reality. I would hope you do not perceive reality like a eugenicist but if you want to understand what is going on you need to appreciate how they think.
    But others pushing for vaccination don't.

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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.
    Let's puzzle this out. Vaccines are safe, proven so for 100 years. So if we call mRNA gene therapy a vaccine, then that makes it safe? Maybe if we write "vaccine" on a bullet, it could save rather than take lives? :-)
    mRNA refers to one manner by which a vaccine is developed. The other is viral vector.

    Safety can only be assured through lengthy trials; in this case, emergency authorization has been employed because there's a pandemic.

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    Vaccines are safe?

    Says who?

    Children who receive vaccines end up with WAY more health issues than unvaccinated children.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32537156/
    https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/12...cinated-peers/

    The polio vaccines of the 1960's infected hundreds of millions of people with the SV-40 virus, which also happens to be found in a large percentage of cancerous tumors to this day.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1027018131586612840

    These new vaccines however seem to be FAR more dangerous than any vaccines in the past, half of all deaths following vaccines reported to the CDC in the past 20 have occured in the past 4 months following covid-19 vaccines.

    4000 deaths in the past 4 months, and 8000 deaths reported in the past 20 years from ALL other vaccines combined.

    Vaccines have never been safe, from my research I would argue that while most doctors believe that they work and are needed, the real reason for vaccines has always been population control.

    Doctors are just misled to believe that they are good for us.

    I would also argue that the science supporting terrain theory makes more sense than to support germ theory.

    I have yet to find a single replicated study that has isolated any virus and experimentally showed that the virus causes any disease.
    They're more dangerous because they're being used with emergency authorization.

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    [mRNA refers to one manner by which a vaccine is developed. The other is viral vector.

    Safety can only be assured through lengthy trials; in this case, emergency authorization has been employed because there's a pandemic.
    Actually, there is no pandemic. Although covid-19 has been isolated in the lab, and written about extensivley, it has not been found in sick people "in the wild." What has been found is Influenzas A and B, as Dr. Robert Byrd has reported. Covid, probably from Fauci's WuHan bioweapons program, has been a big failure as a pandemic. So the fallback plan is the mRNA "vaccine."

    I (and many others) had "covid" in January of 2019 and have since proven immune to "covid" despite ignoring all the precautions.

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