WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[kfm27917]

update on situation dated Feb 28, 2022 @ 13:33 as per debka.com (Israeli website)

https://debka.com/russian-5km-long-c...ks-with-russia

Satellite images showed a 5-km long column moving towards Kyiv on Monday, Feb. 28 with thousands of infantry troops, tanks, self-propelled artillery, and fuel and logistical trucks, still 50km northwest of its target. In the city, weapons were being handed out to people to defend the city.

President Volodymyr Zelensky said he has little hope that the peace talks with Russia beginning on the Border with Belarus will resolve the conflict. With the massive Russian force on the move, Zelensky and Western intelligence watchers said Monday morning that the coming 24 hours would be “crucial” to the conflict. On Sunday, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nuclear forces to go on combat readiness in response to Western sanctions and “aggression.”

DEBKAfile sketches the situation on the different fronts of the Ukraine war:

1. The Russians paused their first attempt to take Kyiv after invading Ukraine last Thursday to await fresh supplies and fuel and meanwhile assemble a massive convoy for the operation.

2. West intelligence analysts don’t rate the chances of the far inferior Ukraine army sustaining its resistance for long.

3. After entering Ukraine’s second city of Kharkiv on Sunday, Russian troops pulled back during the day, there, too, to await heavy weapons reinforcements before going after an all-out offensive to seize the city.

4. In the southeast, the Russian army Sunday night mounted an offensive on Zabrozhia on the Dnieper, while continuing its assault to take Mariupol on the Azov Sea.

5. Ukrainian forces repelled the Russian attack on the southern city of Kherson.

6. Military analysts evaluate the Russian generals’ objective as being to link the Russian forces occupying Zabrozhia and Mariupol for blockading Ukrainian army positions in the north and the west.

7. Large Russian reserve contingents are on standby in neighboring Belarus and estimated ready to push into Ukraine from the north and the east.

Hopes for a successful peace conference on Monday faded when Moscow, ahead of its first round of negotiations with Ukraine, slapped down a demand to discuss a comprehensive accord, while Kyiv insisted first on a ceasefire and the withdrawal of the Russian invasion force.

On the battlefield meanwhile, our military analysts note that neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians are offering a clear picture of the state of play. Reports emanating from Western capitals depict the Russian army as having been forced to halt its advance by shortages of fuel and food for the soldiers. This overstates the case, much like the claim that the Russian army was totally halted in its tracks by bold Ukrainian resistance.

What is really happening, it seems, is that Russian tacticians are now prioritizing operations for cutting off and blockading Ukrainian units before major operations to capture of the country’s main cities. They are intent now on weakening resistance to their advance and counting on Ukrainian forces to buckle before long against a hugely superior military force and resign themselves to guerilla operations.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Are Snake Island Ukrainians Actually ALIVE?! Ukrainian Government Page Challenges Media Narrative:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=u12bv-a3Tc8

[norman]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/...1paBMsRWlqGhdQ

Greek in Mariupol: “The fascist Ukrainians are killing us, they don’t let us leave the city”



https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/03/0...ukrainian/?amp

When asked by SKAI news if he planned to leave the city, Kiouranas responded “how can I leave? When you try to leave the Ukrainian fascists, the Azov Battalion, will stop you and kill you.”

[DaveToo]

Are we being provided daily Death and Casualty numbers, like the daily Covid tallies?
I don't know because I don't follow the MSM.

Oh, and are they providing 'Died with Covid' and 'Died of Covid' numbers for those who have died in the fighting?
I'm assuming that all who die are being tested for Covid as is standard practice now.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[shaberon]

Isn't the best way to prevent World War Three by keeping Ukraine out of NATO?


Isn't the road to peace mainly in dismantling NATO? Those lunkheads forgot a signed accord not to cross the Elbe in 1991. Russia forgets nothing. We have new lies every year.

This has the worst fog ever. I was able to get better details from Yemen. Multiple DDoS and hacks to Russian news; Fort Russ won't show me anything.

In this case, I am not sure western sources even approach the truth. Didn't France just seize a boatload of passenger cars? Piracy, much?

This comes around the second international conference of "world without America". Of course they knew sanctions would happen. It is just going to cement better relations between Russia, India, and China, and when these last two quit saber-rattling over a few miles of desert, you will get a "new world order" formed from the sucked out remains of what was the west. But from what I know, that is the operation of British MI6 ever since the U. S. refused to go back on the Pound, so to speak.

Ukranian right wing is much like the U. S. backed "moderate rebels" in Syria: conscript others by force, shoot them if they try to escape. The only real difference is they want you to be eighteen, not eight.

I don't think the "wider conflict" will come from this, but, there are some harsh ultimatums that will have to be dealt with. Request at the first round of talks? Unconditional surrender. There is not much option other than to witness the removal of the "Ukranian goverment" and "nationalist militants", whatever the cost may be. Yes, that is to flip Churchill's remark into an offensive manner, in order to "defend the island" of the world's largest landmass.

I am not sure that WWIII is even physically possible, since it is no longer feasible to project a D-Day scale invasion wherever you want. We would mostly just get choices of what type of missile to be fried by. "Everlasting global conflict in isolated pockets" is perhaps what we are going to live with for a long time. The U. S. wants to cover it like a lead blanket, but, Russia is perhaps better at whack-a-mole, doing this in Venezuela and that in the Arctic Ocean and you don't know what's coming next.

You knew this Ukraine thing was a matter of time, in fact, it was maybe nice of them to wait ten years or so after seeing things go out of control there.

[shaberon]

Posted by DaveToo (here)
I'm assuming that all who die are being tested for Covid as is standard practice now.

On the contrary, the hundreds of thousands who are flooding Europe are allowed in without testing. Not sure about the military side of it. Right now it won't be many gangsters or extremists since men 18-60 are pulled off the trains.

I actually did browse MSM for a few minutes. It made me want to become a vulture and projectile vomit sticky goo all over their windshield. The actual tone of British propaganda makes me want to forget the English language. Not to mention the obvious exposure of everything in terms of the World Economic Forum and so on.

There is only so much we can verify for ourselves. For instance, in satellite photos of some of the damage, one can see that Russian forces annihilated fuel and ammo depots, but did not touch the runways at all. In other words, they are trying to "take", not "destroy". If it was anything about pure holocaust destruction, they do not need nukes, they have conventional thermobarics that leave pretty much nothing remaining for twenty miles or so.

[Ravenlocke]

I don’t know if the following three articles have anything to do with what’s happening in Ukraine now but here they are and please mods if inappropriate please delete them.

NATO-backed Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko poses with pro-Nazi soldier.
DECEMBER 10, 2018

“In a follow-up tweet, Poroshenko also wrote “Slava Ukrayini!” This is a Ukrainian nationalist slogan that was created in the 1920s by fascists who later became Nazi collaborators. In August, Ukraine made this fascist salute into the official greeting of its military. It was later also adopted by Ukrainian police.

This is not the first controversy linking Poroshenko to a Nazi symbol. In July, one of his advisers wrote on Facebook the neo-Nazi symbol “1488,” which combines the white supremacist “14 words” with code for “Heil Hitler.”

The Grayzone Project has previously reported on how the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion was incorporated directly into Ukraine’s National Guard, and how the United States has armed and advised these fascists.

In late November, Poroshenko’s government declared martial law, after a questionable skirmish with Russian military. This decree gives the government the authority to curtail elections, expression, movement, meetings, and strikes.

Following the incident, Poroshenko requested a major NATO military presence in the Black Sea, along with more weapons and an expansion of sanctions against Russia. The billionaire chocolate oligarch turned president has previously taken steps for Ukraine to join NATO.

The Grayzone Project also recently reported on how US-funded fascists in Ukraine have trained American white supremacists.

In October, an activist from the violent Ukrainian neo-Nazi gang C14, who collaborated with Kiev police to “purge” citizens from the Roma ethnic minority, spoke at the US government-funded America House Kyiv.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2018/12/10/n...ier-totenkopf/

Influential DC-based Ukrainian think tank hosts neo-Nazi activist convicted for racist violence
JULY 20, 2020
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/20/u...cist-violence/

https://thegrayzone.com/2018/04/07/t...s-prohibition/
Known as a bastion of neo-Nazism, Ukraine’s Azov Battalion has received teams of American military advisors and high powered US-made weapons.

Last November, an American military inspection team visited the Azov Battalion on the front lines of the Ukrainian civil war to discuss logistics and deepening cooperation. Images of the encounter showed American army officers poring over maps with their Ukrainian counterparts, palling around and ignoring the Nazi-inspired Wolfangel patches emblazoned on their sleeves.

Azov is a militia that has been incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard, and is considered one of the most effective units in the field against pro-Russian separatists. But it also widely known as a bastion of neo-Nazism within the ranks of the Ukrainian military that has been criticized by international human rights groups, tied to an international fascist network and even a major terror plot.

According to Lower Class Magazine, a leftist German publication, Azov maintains a semi-underground outfit called the “Misanthropic Division” that recruits heavily among the ranks of neo-Nazi youth in France, Germany and Scandinavia. Foreign fighters are promised training with heavy weapons, including tanks, at Ukrainian camps filled with fascist fellow travelers. They even include military veterans like Mikael Skillit, a Swedish former army sniper turned neo-Nazi volunteer for Azov. “After World War Two, the victors wrote their history,” Skillit told the BBC. “They decided that it’s always a bad thing to say I am white and I am proud.”

Foreign Azov volunteers are driven by the call of the “Reconquista,” or the mission to place eastern European nations under the control of a white supremacist dictatorship modeled after the Nazi Reichskommissariat dictatorship that ruled Ukraine during World War II. The mission is promoted effusively by Azov’s chief ideologue, Andriy Biletsky, a veteran fascist organizer who leads the Social National Assembly in Ukraine’s parliament. Biletsky’s assembly has pledged to outlaw interracial contacts and vowed “to prepare Ukraine for further expansion and to struggle for the liberation of the entire White Race from the domination of the internationalist speculative capital.”

Perhaps the most notorious of the racist European youth drawn to the military training camps of Ukraine was a 25-year-old French farm worker named Gregoire Montaux. In June 2016, Moutaux was arrested on Ukraine’s border by the country’s SBU security services with a staggering arsenal of assault rifles, thousands of rounds of ammunition and 125kg of TNT explosives. He had even managed to gain possession of two anti-tank grenade launchers.

Driven by hardcore neo-Nazi ideology, Moutaux planned to blow up “a Muslim mosque, a Jewish synagogue, tax collection organizations, police patrol units,” and attack the Euro 2016 soccer championship. According to the SBU, the would-be terrorist had been in communication “with military units fighting in Donbas” — the eastern Ukrainian area where Azov maintains its training camps.

While mobilizing racist youth across Europe, Azov leadership has also managed to foster a warm relationship with the American military. In one photo posted to Azov’s website last November, an American military officer can be seen shaking hands with an Azov officer whose uniform was emblazoned with the Nazi-inspired Wolfsangel patch that serves as the militia’s symbol. The images highlighted a burgeoning relationship that has been largely conducted in secret, but whose disturbing details are slowly emerging.

Though Washington has not embarked on anything in Ukraine like the billion dollar train-and-equip program it implemented in Syria to promote regime change through a proxy force of so-called “moderate rebels,” there are clear and disturbing similarities between the two projects. Just as heavy weapons ostensibly intended for the CIA-backed Free Syrian Army went straight into the hands of Salafi-jihadi insurgent forces, including ISIS, American weapons in Ukraine are flowing directly to the extremists of Azov. And once again, in its single minded determination to turn up the heat on Russia, Washington seems willing to ignore the unsettling political orientations of its front line proxies.

In recent months, a wide spectrum of observers of the Ukrainian civil war have documented the transfer of heavy weapons made in the USA to the Azov Battalion, and right under the nose of the US State Department.

[s7e6e]

All they need now, is a false flag attack and a Stanley Blomkamp to fake some nuke explosions and the urban aftermath and all hell can break loose.

[DaveToo]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by DaveToo (here)
I'm assuming that all who die are being tested for Covid as is standard practice now.

On the contrary, the hundreds of thousands who are flooding Europe are allowed in without testing. Not sure about the military side of it. Right now it won't be many gangsters or extremists since men 18-60 are pulled off the trains.

That line was pure tongue-in-cheek.

Then again, why let any potential Covid death go to waste?

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by s7e6e (here)
All they need now, is a false flag attack and a Stanley Blomkamp to fake some nuke explosions and the urban aftermath and all hell can break loose.

C’mon, see, that is not helpful thinking. Look for the positive, for the sake of the Christ in us.

[gini]

Tucker Carlson gives his take on the U.S. response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine .1/3/22--21 minutes--

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vx-SqVzg_2Q

[Agape]

Shaberon, thank you so much for your intelligent input as usually, it just occurred to me that “dismantling NATO” may have to wait till the end of Kali Yuga.

I may ask the question to some pandit locally , it may knock them out since it’s Mahashivaratri today and I don’t see yet how is the question practically answerable in world of human identity crisis.

Even if all of our historical pacts were dissolved now, there really is no dissolution of history, memories and ethnic identities in some cases pulling the civilisation cart right in the opposite direction, one of islands and segregated societies and new kinds of ghettos.


I think it’s all also, not happening or it’s been happening all the time, “the war”, jihad, Mahabharata , Sun-tzu and Olympics and human competition .

Imagine civilisation 0.2 is so far always beyond the reachable limits ...



🙏💧🙏

[s7e6e]

This video is showing newborns being cared for in an underground makeshift bomb shelter, a video broadcasted by The New York Times, the credit being attributed to a dr. Denis Surkov.

I'll just leave these 3 screenshots here. Reach your own conclusions.

[norman]

OMG ! . . . they're throwing babies out of incubators again.

[9ideon]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GUX49qg22Os

[Violet3]

Posted by TravelerJim (here)
My model on this becomes more simple daily watching how this unfolds.

The Davos/Chinese/Western Interests group works towards global control of all humans through many strategies, including using viruses and vaccines, and now they use the Ukraine operation after settting this all up in 2014 by creating a coup against an elected Ukrainian govt to go against Putin, who didn't want to play their game.

They try to knock Putin out by setting him up to where he had to act, or otherwise he would have been checkmated. Those Western interests also get a new news cycle away from all the truths coming our on the Covid operation, and they get a cover for inflation, which is a tool used to lower the standard of living for all western countries. They get this and much more.

Here a few articles relevant to what is going on:

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02...based-order-1/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ing-into-nato/

https://truthout.org/articles/the-uk...t-nuland-made/

I have talked to many folks I know and they all realize how serious this situation could get but they have ZERO idea of what is really going on, and if they actually could figure it out by that time the Control Group would be on to their next operation. The bad guys at this point are very bright indeed.

The Human Species only real chance of getting out of this is by calling on the "good ETs". Most of my efforts are now going in this direction.

Hi Traveler Jim
I am not so sure the Russians are not going to come through this operation ok; they are pretty bright also, and must have seen this coming for a long time now. i would bet that Putin still has some cards to play.
Out of interest though, how are you planning to call on the "good ETs"? Do you think they respond to planetary crises according to certain criteria, or a protocol? Wade Frazier recalled in a recent post that there is a practice of non-interference referred to in 'Star Trek,' which he thought was probably quite accurate.

[Mashika]

Hi guys, i'm taking a long trip and have some very dedicated stuff to do so i'll be offline for some time

I did not want to just disappear so i came to say hi and thank each one of you who have been a great friend all this time i was here. Thanks for listening and understanding

This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

[9ideon]

Posted by Malisa (here)
Hi guys, i'm taking a long trip and have some very dedicated stuff to do so i'll be offline for some time

I did not want to just disappear so i came to say hi and thank each one of you who have been a great friend all this time i was here. Thanks for listening and understanding

This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

будь осторожен приятель

[Mashika]

Posted by 9ideon (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
Hi guys, i'm taking a long trip and have some very dedicated stuff to do so i'll be offline for some time

I did not want to just disappear so i came to say hi and thank each one of you who have been a great friend all this time i was here. Thanks for listening and understanding

This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

будь осторожен приятель